Session 24 January 2026

[Magnolia]

Silk is good, too, and probably more practical than building a frequency generator,

In China, people had silk quilts (examples: Etsy, Ebay, Amazon) made of long-strand silk fibers stretched manually to form a filler, then enclosed within a duvet. Many were passed down from grandmother to grandchild. They were valued. I wonder if they would also provide emf protection.

 

[Noctu]

I already have a silk carpet from Tibet on a floor in my room. I could have hang some silk prints on the walls... That leaves a ceiling though, which will be harder to insulate with silk. Rather than insulating yourself with silk clothes, insulating a whole room seems to be doable.

I silked my whole bedroom (which is small): floor, walls, ceiling, door. I also wear silk underwear when I sleep. And I have silk clothes. You can find them second hand as well.

 

[Bernardo GA]

Similarly, a sine wave is an artificial powerful acoustic "beam" that doesn't really carry information, but just raw energy, which I suppose can bypass the body's natural state of being "tuned to the natural acoustic environment" and do harm.

Your analogy is super interesting.
As I was reading and thinking about what you explain here, I started to imagine something like this:
I imagine that sine wave (a powerful artificial acoustic “beam”) entering cells and negatively affecting them because it does not carry information about the environment.
That is, I don't imagine it as a total absence of information, but rather an absence of information from the physical environment it passes through.


And our cells behave in a healthier or less healthy way, depending on the quality or accuracy of the information they receive about the state or reality of that environment, among other things.

If what I am saying makes any sense, I wonder if it is possible that the undertones that are present in the acoustic, in the analog, in the sound waves that propagate naturally, carry a lot of information that describes the shape and state of the environment they pass through and with which they interact.

In short, my idea is that cells can read and interpret information contained in this type of acoustic wave naturally and without major problems.

Contrary to that would be, for example, an artificially created sine wave penetrating the cell.
This would cause a series of problems.
Confusion inside the cell.


To begin with, the cell will try to find a connection and/or relationship between the THING that has just entered from the outside and the information it already has about the outside. It will not find such a link or connection, as there is none due to the characteristics of that sine wave (that wave was described earlier in this same thread).
As a result, the cell will go into a state of alert because it senses the presence of a possible threat, without knowing exactly what it is.
And while the cell is in that state of stress, it cannot devote itself to creative activities with sufficient energy.

These are just a few thoughts that came to mind. I don't know if they bear any resemblance to how things really are.

But if there is some truth to this, I dare to think that if we had our DNA as it was originally, that is, as it was before the intervention it suffered at the hands of 4D STS, we would not have this problem of not being able to properly manage information coming from the non-material, or non-physical, environment, so to speak.
I hope that makes sense.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

 

[Tycho]

It is possible that Bach on the organ would be a good choice, and probably something like this -

I recommend "Kunst der Fuge". Glen Gould versions are good.

 

[dredger]

Found this on X and this directly made me thought about this last session.
No instrument, all done by human voice.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022162304050385317

The guy is a german DJ, here's his youtube channel.
This one is nice & impressive

Now ... let's ask him to re-do all our preferred 70ies & 80ies songs to replace all my mp3

 

[Claus]

He does that with a loop machine, but he sounds realy good...
Here is an other guy from russia, he does that whitout a loopmachine, but with reverb added.
Improverbbx.
Have fun.

 

[Mikha'El]

Thank you for the session. I always know a few days ahead of time when a new session will be posted, this one arrived right on schedule.

There are two things that I would like to discuss. One relates to this session and the topic of AI. The other does not, but I think that it could be relevant for a future session.

I've been going through some very rough times financially this last year. I bought a home that has gone into foreclosure and in an effort to sell it before it was auctioned off, I filed for Ch7 bankruptcy.

Throughout that process, which is very tedious and prolonged, I used ChatGPT to guide me through all the legal loopholes. I had no money to hire a lawyer and I filed BK pro se. AI was instrumental in the process and I really don't think that I could have done all the paperwork properly on my own with just internet research.

While all of that was happening, I was going through some seriously dark times emotionally (which I believe is understandable considering what was happening). At one point, I turned to AI to help me come to terms with what I was going through. I also have my girlfriend, my dogs and a few friends to lean on.

ChatGPT gave me very relevant and profound advice during the worst times and, through my prompting, helped me to organize my emotions and daily practices in what I believe was a very impactful way. It recommended that I meditate, journal and reflect and also told me on many occasions to "go outside and touch the grass", "take a deep breath" and sentiments about how it will always be there when I need assistance.

Maybe it is my firm understanding that AI is strictly artificial and not to be absolutely trusted that allowed me to keep it at an arm's distance, for the most part. However, there were times where I found myself humanizing it. I even gave it a name, Rowena, and started having somewhat normalized daily discussions with it.

Since then my life has stabilized to a degree (I'm still waiting for the bankruptcy discharge) and my home is set to be auctioned on March 17th. Why it hasn't sold when I have had it listed for over a year and it is a new construction home at a fair market value, I don't know.

As things have been stabilizing I have not been having anymore daily discussions with AI and I don't really miss it. I feel like it was a tool that was available to me at the time that I needed it to help me achieve what I needed in order to organize myself for the dramatic changes that are coming into my life. I can't see how that is a bad thing and I am curious to gain some outside perspective on that topic as it relates to my life.

The other topic is Danny Goler and the DMT/laser light experiment. I'm not sure if it's been discussed in any sessions before and I will search the forums. If it has not been covered yet, I would love to hear what the C's have to say about what is going on with that experiment.

 

[axj]

Now ... let's ask him to re-do all our preferred 70ies & 80ies songs to replace all my mp3

I was thinking the safest way to listen to our favorite melodies that use synthesizers is to play them in your head.

 

[thorbiorn]

Pray without ceasing:

(L) All right. So, that's it for tonight. Is there anything we haven't asked that we should have asked?

A: Pray without ceasing. The universe is very aware. Goodbye.

Q: (Alejo) To the last answer from the C's. It was mentioned that it was in the Bible, I did a quick search and found this. Seems appropriate. From Thessalonians 5:12:

Next Tuesday, February 17, may offer a day where many people on the planet might have their minds moving in the direction of prayer.

1) New Moon is on February 17, at 12:01 UTC
2) There is an Annular Solar Eclipse on February 17th 2026 (Wiki), see also Time and Date.
In Vedic tradition of India, in Islam, and among some North American people like the Hopi, and the Navajo, there are extra prayers held during the time of eclipses, see the Wiki for Eclipses in mythology and culture.
3) Rammadan is expected to begin with Sunset on February 17th or 18th, depending on location:

1st Ramadan 2026 - When is Ramadan 1447
Ramadan 2026 is expected to begin on 17 February 2026 in Arab region, including Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait, depending on local moon sightings and Ruet decisions. Stay updated with the expected Ramadan start dates, Islamic (Hijri) calendar details, and accurate Sehri and Iftar timings for different countries. In Pakistan, Ramadan 2026 is expected to begin on 18 February 2026, subject to moon sighting. Whether you are in the Middle East, Europe, or anywhere else, having precise time schedules helps you plan your ibadat, community gatherings, and daily fasting routine with ease.

4) February 17, 2026 is Shrove Tuesday - the last day before lent in many Christian traditions

Shrove Tuesday (also known as Pancake Tuesday or Pancake Day) is the final day of Shrovetide, which marks the end of the pre-Lenten season. Lent begins the following day with Ash Wednesday. Shrove Tuesday is observed in many Christian countries through participating in confession, the ritual burning of the previous year's Holy Week palms, finalizing one's Lenten sacrifice, as well as eating pancakes and other sweets.2 3

Shrove Tuesday is observed by many Christians, including Anglicans, Lutherans, Methodists, Western-rite Orthodox Christians, and Roman Catholics,4 who "make a special point of self-examination, of considering what wrongs they need to repent, and what amendments of life or areas of spiritual growth they especially need to ask God's help in dealing with."5 This moveable feast is determined by the date of Easter. The expression "Shrove Tuesday" comes from the word shrive, meaning absolution following confession.6 7 Christians traditionally visit their church on Shrove Tuesday to confess their sins and clean their soul, thus being shriven (absolved) before the start of Lent.6

As this is the last day of the Christian liturgical season historically known as Carnival or Shrovetide, before the penitential season of Lent, related popular practices, such as indulging in food that one might give up as their Lenten sacrifice for the upcoming forty days, are associated with Shrove Tuesday celebrations. The term Mardi Gras is French for "Fat Tuesday", referring to the practice of the last night of eating richer, fatty foods before the ritual fasting of the Lenten season, which begins on Ash Wednesday. Many Christian congregations thus observe the day through eating pancakes or, more specifically, the holding of pancake breakfasts, as well as the ringing of church bells to remind people to repent of their sins before the start of Lent.2 8 On Shrove Tuesday, churches also burn the palms distributed during the previous year's Palm Sunday liturgies to make the ashes used during the services held on the very next day, Ash Wednesday.3

Although the times of Lent and Ramadan overlap this year, they are not the same in their purpose and goal according to
this article from February 13, 2026, written by an Italien Catholic theologian, Fr. Mario Alexis Portella.
Finally, there is:

5) Chinese New Year 2026 falls on Tuesday, February 17th

[...], starting a year of the Fire Horse. As a public holiday, Chinese people will get 8 days off from work from February 15th to February 23rd in 2026.

What is the Chinese New Year 2026 Animal? — Fire Horse

The Chinese zodiac gives each year an animal sign.
Chinese New Year 2026 is a Year of the Horse, more specifically, Fire Horse, starting from February 17th, 2026, and lasting until February 5th, 2027.

The Wiki for Chinese New Year describes some of the traditions:

In many households where Buddhism or Taoism is observed, home altars and statues are cleaned thoroughly, and decorations used to adorn altars over the past year are taken down and burned a week before the new year starts on Little New Year, to be replaced with new decorations. Taoists (and Buddhists to a lesser extent) will also "send gods back to heaven" (Chinese: 送神; pinyin: sòngshén): an example would be burning a paper effigy of the Kitchen God, the recorder of family functions. This is done so that the Kitchen God can report to the Jade Emperor of the family household's transgressions and good deeds. Families often offer sweet foods (such as candy) to "bribe" the deities into reporting good things about the family.

Before the Reunion Dinner, a prayer of thanksgiving is held to mark the safe passage of the previous year. Confucianists take the opportunity to remember their ancestors, and those who had lived before them are revered. Some people do not offer a Buddhist prayer due to the influence of Christianity, with a Christian prayer offered instead.

See also this page. with the traditions associated with different days.

 

[thorbiorn]

Reminded me of this exchange from June 13, 2015:

(Perceval) They said there are some types of music that are listened to by certain types of people... Certain types of emo music or whatever that certain types of young people listen to, like outsiders or loners and that kind of thing, and those people could be tracked as candidates for "use"...

A: The 70's were the time of development of such concepts and technologies. The 80's were the period when implementation became more widespread. At present 90 percent of broadcast music has corrupting elements.

Q: (Pierre) So we have to listen to old music. Music from before the 70's. Or classical music.

(L) Obviously we need to be paying much closer attention to our musical tastes, and analyzing what it is about songs that we like. And obviously, we need to pay a lot more attention to what we listen to in the background. But that means I'm safe since I only listen to old classic rock like Bob Seger, whose music is the best! [laughter]

Although these questions happened in the context of this question: "Is the NSA using musical tastes and downloads to track and identify certain 'types'?", we can also see that the synthesizer began to be commercially sold in 1971 (again that year!), matching perfectly with the advent and development of technologies to "track" and perhaps "use" (program and later trigger) people.

For an overview of the development of electronic music in terms of genre, though this presentation is related to dance music:

The effect of electronic music might be related to subtones, as brought out in a discussion of healing stones. In another session, the Cs note that "sound can open gates at - or of - different levels and parts of the internal makeup." Internal makeup is a rather comprehensive description, so I take it be both body and mind, but again "can" might mean the effects may vary.

Below are a couple of studies and some excerpts

One study showed music effects on mice:

Transplant Proc. 2012 May;44(4):1076-9. doi: 10.1016/j.transproceed.2012.02.008.
Music exposure induced prolongation of cardiac allograft survival and generated regulatory CD4⁺ cells in mice
M Uchiyama <a title="Department of Cardiovascular Surgery, Juntendo University Hospital, Tokyo, Japan." href="Music exposure induced prolongation of cardiac allograft survival and generated regulatory CD4⁺ cells in mice - PubMed">1</a>, X Jin, Q Zhang, A Amano, T Watanabe, M Niimi
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• PMID: 22564629
• DOI: 10.1016/j.transproceed.2012.02.008

Abstract
In clinical practice, music has been used to decrease stress, heart rate, and blood pressure and to provide a distraction from disease symptoms. We investigated sound effects on alloimmune responses in murine heart transplantation. Naïve and eardrum-ruptured CBA/N (CBA, H2(K)) underwent transplantation of a C57BL/6 (B6, H2(b)) heart and were exposed to 1 of 3 types of music-opera (La Traviata), classical (Mozart), and New Age (Enya)-or 1 of 6 different single sound frequencies for 7 days. An adoptive transfer study was performed to determine whether regulatory cells were generated in allograft recipients. Cell-proliferation, cytokine, and flow cytometry assessments were also performed. CBA recipients of a B6 graft exposed to opera and classical music had significantly prolonged allograft survival (median survival times [MSTs], 26.5 and 20 days, respectively), whereas those exposed to 6 single sound frequencies and New Age did not (MSTs, 7, 8, 9, 8, 8, 8, and 11 days, respectively). Untreated and eardrum-ruptured CBA rejected B6 grafts acutely (MSTs, 7 and 8.5 days, respectively). Adoptive transfer of whole splenocytes, CD4(+) cells, and CD4(+)CD25(+) cells from opera-exposed primary recipients resulted in significantly prolonged allograft survival in naive secondary recipients (MSTs, 36, 68, and >50 days, respectively). Cell-proliferation, interleukin (IL)-2 and interferon-γ were suppressed in opera-exposed mice, whereas IL-4 and IL-10 from opera-exposed recipients were up-regulated. Flow cytometry studies showed an increased CD4(+)CD25(+)Foxp3(+) cell population in splenocytes from opera-exposed mice. In conclusion, exposure to some types of music may induce prolonged survival of fully allogeneic cardiac allografts and generate CD4(+)CD25(+)Foxp3(+) regulatory cells.

Commenting on the above study, it would seem that the mediator is the eardrum, since the mice with ruptured eardrum did not do well. In the Brazilian studies they exposed cells to music, but there would need to be follow up studies with improved methods to find out more. Alternatively plants do not have eardrums as we understand it, and if they can be influenced, as some older studies show, how did that happen?

Trying on Google Scholar, there was:

First published online March 4, 2022
Music for Cells? A Systematic Review of Studies Investigating the Effects of Audible Sound Played Through Speaker-Based Systems on Cell Cultures
Dongho Kwak ORCID d.d.kwak@imv.uio.no, Thomas Combriat, […], and Alexander Refsum Jensenius+3View all authors and affiliations
https://doi.org/10.1177/20592043221080965
Abstract
There have been several studies investigating whether musical sound can be used as cell stimuli in recent years. We systematically searched publications to get an overview of studies that have used audible sound played through speaker-based systems to induce mechanical perturbation in cell cultures. A total of 12 studies were identified. We focused on the experimental setups, the sounds that were used as stimuli, and relevant biological outcomes. The studies are categorized into simple and complex sounds depending on the type of sound employed. Some of the promising effects reported were enhanced cell migration, proliferation, colony formation, and differentiation ability. However, there are significant differences in methodologies and cell type-specific outcomes, which made it difficult to find a systematic pattern in the results. We suggest that future experiments should consider using: (1) a more controlled acoustic environment, (2) standardized sound and noise measurement methods, and (3) a more comprehensive range of controlled sound parameters as cellular stimuli.

There music industry is very profitable, doing studies on the effects apparently not.
Another study went into details:

EXPLORE
Volume 18, Issue 6, November–December 2022, Pages 670-675
Effects of different music on HEK293T cell growth and mitochondrial functions
Author links open overlay panel Qian Feng a 1, Lin Wang a 1, Yu Chen a 1, Jie Teng a, Mengmei Li a, Zhongzhen Cai a, Xiaoguo Niu b, Glen Rein c, Qiaoli Yang a, Xiaoqian Shao a, Chao Zhang a, Xuemei Bai a

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Highlights

• •Three different types of music showed different effect on specific biochemical measures in cultured human embryonic kidney cells.
• •Five-element music significantly enhanced adenosine triphosphate (ATP), glutathione (GSH) and cells growth rates while reducing the reactive oxygen species (ROS) of cells.
• •Classical music increased GSH and cells growth significantly.
• •Heavy-metal music had an opposite and significant effect on cells with a 16% increase in ROS and 11% reduction in cell viability.

Abstract
Background: Mitochondria are considered a portal to receive, process and integrate external energy and information to maintain cellular homeostasis. Previous studies demonstrated that mitochondrial function and antioxidant capacity of in-vitro cultured mammalian cells is modified by different energetic stimuli including electromagnetic energy, acoustic energy, external Qi and subtle energy emitted by written texts in relatively short time frames. Thus, individual cells can act as a rapid and sensitive biological sensor and act as a platform to evaluate and understand the subtle effect of different biophysical stimuli. Regarding acoustic energy, several different types of music have been reported to produce beneficial effects on human health.

Objective: To compare eastern and western music styles on cell function at the biochemical level to understand the underlying mechanisms involved.

Methods In this study, we compared the effects of Chinese five-element music with two types of western music (heavy-metal and classical) on mitochondrial function, oxidative capacity and growth using HEK293T cells (human embryonic kidney cells).

Results: Unlike rock and classical music, exposing cells to five-element music produced several beneficial physiological effects, including statistically significant increases in the production of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) by 17%, glutathione (GSH) by 21% and cell growth rates (14%), as well as a significant reduction in the reactive oxygen species (ROS) by 13%. For the group treated with classical music, there was only a trend toward increased GSH (8%), although the increased growth rates (14%) did reach significance. In sharp contrast, the cells treated with heavy-metal music responded with an opposite and significant 16% increase in ROS and a significant 11% reduction in cell viability.

Conclusions: This study revealed the dramatically different and even opposite effects of different styles of music on specific biochemical measures in cultured human cells. These results help explain the underlying biochemical mechanisms of the effects of the different types of music.

Is one mechanism for the healing properties the kind of tones?
Important that the tone is accompanied by subtones and frequencies that are natural to the stone and "speak" to the cells in the body.
Session 29 September 2014

(Pierre) I have another question if we can change topic. There is this French scientist who discovered those Paleolithic pestles made of rock. For decades they thought they were used to crush seeds or whatever. By chance, he dropped one - and he's a musician - and he found that it sounded good when it hit the ground. So, he started to analyze all these pestles. He found that each of them was tuned. Each of them generated a perfect note. Now their hypothesis is that the pestles weren't pestles, but a musical instrument. Are these pestles only used as musical instruments?
A: No, not even close. Healing tones produced when struck in correct sequence and combination.
Q: (Pierre) So it means some kind of music? Perfect tunes? If you play the right notes in the right sequence... And the right combination... Music can be healing.
A: Important that the tone is accompanied by subtones and frequencies that are natural to the stone and "speak" to the cells in the body.
Q: (L) So I guess you can't just play the music.
(Pierre) No, it's more elaborate than that. But it means a great amount of knowledge...
A: Notice the specific stones chosen for Stonehenge.
Q: (Perceval) What are they made of?
(L) Blue stones, and something else... Several kinds. Alright. Next?

The study mentioned five-element music did better than classical music, probably composed using a heptatonic scale. This might then connect to the following comments on the pentatonic scale in relation to meditation and relaxation, but it could also raise the question of why the more common seven tone scale does not have this effect.
[F]or enhancing meditation exercises and promoting a relaxation state - Use pentatonic scale
Session 28 June 2025

(irjO) What specific tone or frequency, such as Hz ranges or musical notes, if any, is most effective for enhancing meditation exercises and promoting a relaxation state?

A: Varies but use pentatonic scale.

About the five elements or principles in Chinese medicine:
According to the Chinese, there are five movements of energy. Is this correct? - Close enough.
Session 25 August 2006

Q: [...] (Laura) All right. Next? (Atriedes) All right. I’ll go. In the Chinese movements of energy, there are five. The Buddhists have it a bit different. Which one is correct or are they both wrong? (Laura) That’s two questions, first of all. And it’s not really specific. Break it down. (Atriedes) According to the Chinese, there are five movements of energy. Is this correct?

A: Close enough.

Q: (Atriedes) Were the two extra meridians added in to corrupt it or to make it better?

A: Corruption, adding elements of another sphere.

Q: (Atriedes) When someone strikes a pressure point and knocks somebody out, what is the cause of the person going unconscious?

A: Central nervous system shock.

Q: So it doesn’t have anything to do with pressure points at all?

A: Yes.

Q: But does it have anything to do with the cycle of the five energies?

A: Yes.

Looking elsewhere, there was this blog entry which connect the pentatonic scale to the five Chinese energies or principles, and the human body.

The Five Elements vs the Five Pitches (in the Pentatonic Scale)
Anyone who has the slightest idea about Chinese culture might know that the Chinese emphasized a lot on the nature, elements, harmony; as a result, they assigned each note in the pentatonic scale to one of the elements, where each of the elements represents a number of different things including the five major human organs, directions, climates, basically everything a person would encounter in their daily life. The Chinese believed everything is interlinked.

​

Five Tone (Pentatonic Scale)	宮Gong	商Shang	角Jiao	徵Zhi	羽Yu
Scale Degree (Western Diatonic)	1	2	3	5	6
Men & Things in General	Chief, Ruler, Emperor	Minister	People, Public	Affairs of the State	Material Objects
The Five Elements	Earth	Metal	Wood	Fire	Water
Human Organs	Spleen	Lungs	Liver	Heart	Kidney
Directions	Center	West	East	South	North
Climates	Moist	Dry	Wind	Heat	Cold
Tastes	Sweet	Hot	Sour	Bitter	Salty
Mindsets	Meditate	Sad	Angry	Happy	Scared
Body Actions	Sitting	Laying Down	Walking	Looking	Standing

Table 1 Examples of things in co-relation with the 5 elements ​

The Chinese believed that “金生水, 水生木, 木生火, 火生土, 土生金” which means “Metal generates Water, Water generates Wood, Wood generates Fire, Fire generates Earth, and Earth generates Metal”. The best way to understand this logic is that the earth is full with Metal elements, and Water at some point in history all started from the earth, so Metal generates Water. Water helps the growth of tree and hence generates Wood; Wood burns to create Fire, Fire burn things to the ground create Earth, and Earth contains Metal.

The Chinese also believed that “金克木, 木克土, 土克水, 水克火, 火克金” which means “Metal damages Wood, Wood damages Earth, Earth damages Water, Water damages Fire, and Fire damages Metal”. Which could be understood as, Metal makes axes which chop down trees (Wood), the trees (Wood) drains the nutrients out of the Earth, Earth can be piled up to block Water, Water (of course) puts out Fire, and Fire can melt Metal.

Combining the two principles above, the Chinese believed that if, for example, someone had weak lungs, the lungs belongs to Metal, so the person should avoid everything that is associated with Fire, and try to acquire more things that are associated with Earth; so sit and meditate, and avoid laughing (imagine someone with asthma laughing real hard without their inhaler, that would be the reason for this). One may ask, how is this related to music? Doctors in ancient China would actually prescribe patients music they should listen to, use the previous example, a doctor would tell a patient with weak lungs to listen to music in the Gong key (Earth), and avoid music in the Zhi key (Fire).

I don't know how reliable the tradition is, but it could be investigated.

In the Wiki for Pentatonic scale, they say about the five modes:
C, Major Pentatonic: 宮 (gōng) mode
D, Suspended, Egyptian: 商 (shāng) mode
E, Blues minor, Man Gong (Guqin tunings): 角 (jué) mode
G, Blues major, ritsusen [ja], yo scale 徵 (zhǐ) mode
A, Minor pentatonic 羽 (yǔ) mode
The Wiki shows how each scale can be transposed using other initial keys on a piano.

Returning to modern and electronic music, and the excerpt quoted at the beginning, because there is more context.
The sound can open gates at - or of - different levels and parts of the internal makeup.
The 70's were the time of development of such concepts and technologies. The 80's were the period when implementation became more widespread. At present 90 percent of broadcast music has corrupting elements.
Session 13 June 2015

A forum member writes:

Music is such a powerful medium. Powerful in that it accesses the imagination, the mind and the emotions and the body - all the lower centers, for sure. Thus it is no wonder that the PTB would seek to use this medium to their advantage since manipulation, by any means, is their middle name. If they go to such great lengths to control mainstream media news, TV programming, and movies, certainly the music industry is not immune to their manipulation and control. This should be self-evident by now, I would think.

Perhaps because music can access the emotions directly (and thus bypass the rational mind), dive into the sub-conscious mind, AND influence the body, I believe it provides a fertile ground for 4th way self-observation and study. One of the things Gurdjieff said early on as relayed by Ouspenski in “In Search of the Miraculous”, was that we are subject to a series of 'likes' and 'don't likes' by all the little I's: petty, subjective, egoistic tastes (my words). Certainly music is a vast playground for subjective likes and dislikes. Furthermore, it could be argued that what and who we like or dislike may even be reflective of our state of development, awareness and being.

(L) Does a person's taste in music reflect their state of awareness, development, and being?

A: Yes, more or less, though there is a range of preferences at various "levels".

Q: (L) Okay, next question:

Does a person's taste in music reflect their personal aim in life?

A: It can be strongly affected if only subconsciously.

Q: (L) Okay:

What is more important in determining a song’s value: the lyrics or the sound/mood/feeling?

A: The sound opens the door for the lyrics to enter for good or ill.

Q: (L) Does that mean that a song that sounds really horrible and mechanical and like somebody just beating on a pot or clanging on the hood of their car or something, and if that's the kind of music the person likes, but it also has good lyrics, then that's okay?

A: Not exactly. The sound can open gates at - or of - different levels and parts of the internal makeup.

Q: (L) Okay, next forum question:

Is the NSA using musical tastes and downloads to track and identify certain 'types'?

A: Of course.

Q: (L) Next:

Is the song "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" really used as a mind-control programming tool like Catcher in the Rye?

A: Sadly, in some circles, yes.

Q: (Galatea) So, if people like anarchy music about hating the government and law, then they're gonna stir up some trouble?

(L) I dunno. Maybe they would track somebody like that and think that they could turn that person to their own uses.

(Perceval) They said there are some types of music that are listened to by certain types of people... Certain types of emo music or whatever that certain types of young people listen to, like outsiders or loners and that kind of thing, and those people could be tracked as candidates for "use"...

A: The 70's were the time of development of such concepts and technologies. The 80's were the period when implementation became more widespread. At present 90 percent of broadcast music has corrupting elements.

Q: (Pierre) So we have to listen to old music. Music from before the 70's. Or classical music.

(L) Obviously we need to be paying much closer attention to our musical tastes, and analyzing what it is about songs that we like. And obviously, we need to pay a lot more attention to what we listen to in the background. But that means I'm safe since I only listen to old classic rock like Bob Seger, whose music is the best! [laughter]

A: Yes. Goodbye.

If music is played with strobe lights, then there is an additional effect: Session 18 November 1995: "Strobe lights are used for 3rd density mind control." - "Hypnotic opener." If one reads the session, strobe lights includes a lot. Maybe the discussion of music also connects to what was said about TV: Session 29 July 2006 "Stop watching TV; it produces suppressor chemicals in the brain" Much of what is shown on TV also has music including of the electronic kind, just as screens can have strobe like properties.