Session 24 October 2009

[Gawan]

Thanks for posting!

(L) It's becoming more widespread for people to be accused of being mentally ill because they think that George Bush and the gang and Mossad and everything were behind 9/11. So, I mean if the church council, the supreme council or whatever you want to call it, the Elders of the church say that this is what the believers should believe, then it's covered under freedom of religion! Conspiracy theory and all the issues about psychopaths are all incorporated into this statement of principles.

That's so clever. And it sounds very exciting!

The muslims say it's ''wrong'' to eat pork for example and this religion could have ''rules'' like : no soy, gluten etc. And people won't be labeled as having a ''new eating disorder'' when they avoid such things. As long as you say it's because of your religion, they'll be okay with it. Just like Joe said here:

Well somehow I don't know what to write and can only contribute and agree: this is so exciting.

A: Their connections are forming at higher levels.

I don't know maybe this is just my feeling, but so far there are happening some synchronicity on this forum, having the same ideas and so on. Eventually this is one clue for a connection, at least it has been my feeling.

Yes indeed, a long time coming but there it is: The Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind has been born.

I have the POTS framed in front of me and remembered your sentence on the backside: "Welcome to the fellowship of the cosmic mind".

(Ark) Well, nevertheless, there can be workshops.

(L) Yes, they can attend workshops and we can evaluate people individually.

(A***) Yeah, what books they've read, how well they've understood the material...

(L) And also their participation in the virtual forum or church. The forum itself can be the virtual church.

(C**) But then you'll have crazy people like psychopaths teaching breathing...

(L) Well they can't be teaching it until they attend a workshop, and they have to be ordained as ministers before they can be teaching it. That's one thing, for sure. Just ordinary members can't be doing that.

This sounds very reasonable to me, so the participants and lecturers would get known to each other and maybe there is another chance as well, finding appropriate "work" for the participants, depending on the talents.

Once we get the Statement of Principles finalized, there will be a website. But, even before that, I think we can be enrolling members - founding members I guess we will call them - who will help with all the details of getting things rolling. We'll be setting up a closed forum for FOTCM members to discuss plans and implementation, too.

That sounds great, to open the gates for more people, so to speak.
Also lately many thoughts have been running through my head, of applying/asking for QFS, am I able to do it, is it a good idea and so on and so on. And now many things are changing and new ways for participating are opening up.

What is simply fantastic.

By the way, absolutely no apology is necessary for me.

Agreed, everything as it's appropriate time.



Thank you/the team for sharing.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Thanks Laura and team, but I am not sure how can church protect me in my country. In my country, which is ex-socialist one, law is law and it is equal for everyone. No church or religion brings you relieve from any law. Everything is the same for everyone. Even jehovah’s witnesses must receive blood or they don’t go to the hospital. Religion is nice and anyone can believe in what chose too, but anyone also must obey the state and the law. In example, if vaccination is a rule, than all people and religions must be vaccinated.



In short, here is like this: any religion is fine, and you have any right to think and believe anything you want, but if something is the law, that means nothing. Any institution (be it even a church) doesn’t save you from institution of law, state and government.



That is how law says, on the other hand, situation in real life is different. Because years of communism and stupidity of laws, also antipathy for the state and government from the most of population, even law administrators are braking it. So, there are very few people who are not felons in the face of law here, but they can pull law out anytime they wish, so everything must be done in low profile manner.



It all really depends on what kind of individual you will bump in your legal affairs. Last years, there is effort to make machine of legal system and administrators because government want to join European union, but resistance is great so all of that is pretty much just on the paper (for now). There is a saying (at least here): “the rule is here to be broken”.

 

[Biomiast]

Great session, I couldn't stop laughing(in a good sense), very clever move against mandatory vaccines.

Thanks Laura and team, but I am not sure how can church protect me in my country. In my country, which is ex-socialist one, law is law and it is equal for everyone. No church or religion brings you relieve from any law. Everything is the same for everyone. Even jehovah’s witnesses must receive blood or they don’t go to the hospital. Religion is nice and anyone can believe in what chose too, but anyone also must obey the state and the law. In example, if vaccination is a rule, than all people and religions must be vaccinated.

Unfortunately, I am in the same situation, we didn't have socialism, but we have a rigid secular structure with schizoidal interpretation that dictates its law to anybody. As far as I know government ordered 10 million vaccines, but the population of country is 70 million, so I don't think they will become mandatory, at least this is what I hope for. On the other hand, for other members FOTCM can be a life-saver.

 

[RyanX]

Yes indeed, a long time coming but there it is: The Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind has been born.

This is incredible! Thank you! :) I had no idea this was in the works.

The thing about a "Fellowship" is interesting. I had a dream last night where I was watching a court room with Peregrin (Pippin) Took (from Lord of the Rings) standing in front of a row of judges, although they didn't seem like regular judges, more just like elders perhaps, but in my dream my mind immediately associated them with "judges". I can't recall exactly the drama that was taking place, but it seemed important. Enough for me to remember these scant details. Amazing...

Anyways, I'm looking forward to this! It is amazing to think of how much has happened this past year.

Ryan

 

[Tigersoap]

That's a brilliant exciting news :)
United we stand.

 

[Scottie]

Thanks Laura and team, but I am not sure how can church protect me in my country. In my country, which is ex-socialist one, law is law and it is equal for everyone. No church or religion brings you relieve from any law. Everything is the same for everyone. Even jehovah’s witnesses must receive blood or they don’t go to the hospital. Religion is nice and anyone can believe in what chose too, but anyone also must obey the state and the law. In example, if vaccination is a rule, than all people and religions must be vaccinated.

In short, here is like this: any religion is fine, and you have any right to think and believe anything you want, but if something is the law, that means nothing. Any institution (be it even a church) doesn’t save you from institution of law, state and government.

Don't forget this part of the transcript:

Q: (Ark) Question is, should we consult about the bigger stuff with our French attorneys so that we are safe in France where there are strict rules?

A: Ultimately, yes but not necessary immediately. You created the structure for the protection of those in the USA first where it is most needed. Proceed with the steps as you go along.

As mentioned in the session, the USA is where the protection is needed the most right now. Other countries will require different measures, and as the need arises, I'm sure the solution will be found and implemented.

Also, keep in mind that even in "religion-free" countries where the law is the most important, there are still things like good old "anti-Semitism" rules that have a lot of power, regardless of the law. In many countries, these rules have been made into laws. So, as far as I can see, not only do we have a wonderful template from the PTB in terms of protection under official religion, but we also have a potential template for other nations where religion is not "protected" as strongly. For example, anti-hate laws...

So, one thing at a time! ;)

 

[mada85]

A: 84 questions all in one!

An allusion to 1984? Orwell’s world is everywhere now.

A: Olimpia of Cassiopaea. Questions are the beginning of wisdom!

A curious allusion to the Olympic games, I thought, which led me to a rather interesting association of ideas, which I’d like to share here:

Olympia, -ae site of the Greek games in Elis
Olympia, -orum Olympic Games

Elis, or Eleia (Greek, Modern: Ήλιδα Ilida, Ancient: Ἦλις Ēlis, Doric: Ἆλις Alis , Elean : Ϝάλις Walis) is an ancient district, that corresponds with the modern Ilia Prefecture. It is in southern Greece on the Peloponnesos peninsula, bounded on the north by Achaea, east by Arcadia, south by Messenia, and west by the Ionian Sea. […]

The local form of the name was Valis, or Valeia, and its meaning, in all probability, “the lowland” (compare with the word "valley"). In its physical constitution Elis is similar to Achaea and Arcadia; its mountains are mere offshoots of the Arcadian highlands, and its principal rivers are fed by Arcadian springs.

The American science-fiction write, Philip K. Dick, used the word Valis as an acronym for: Vast Active Living Intelligent System.

The mention of Arcadia also reminds me of the famous painting by Poussin Les Bergers d’Arcadie.

Arcadia (Greek: Ἀρκαδία) refers to a Utopian vision of pastoralism and harmony with nature. The term is derived from the Greek province of the same name which dates to antiquity; the province's mountainous topography and sparse population of pastoralists later caused the word Arcadia to develop into a poetic byword for an idyllic vision of unspoiled wilderness. The Utopian vision, Arcadia, is associated with bountiful natural splendor, harmony, and is often inhabited by shepherds.

The inhabitants were often regarded as having continued to live after the manner of the Golden Age, without the pride and avarice that corrupted other regions.[1] It is also sometimes referred to in English poetry as Arcady. The inhabitants of this region bear an obvious connection to the figure of the Noble savage, both being regarded as living close to nature, uncorrupted by civilization, and virtuous.

So, the above gives us a place of ‘games’ – Olympian efforts asked of those of us who would play the pathocrats at their own legality game. By creating a ‘church’ framework for the Cassoipaean work, Laura has created a structure from which the legal ‘games’ can be played.

Anyway, that’s a few idea associations that came to mind, fwiw.

Anyway, I think this ‘church’ idea is just fantastic! It seems to me that it will enable closer contact between the people who are working with the EE program and the Cass material.

So this post of mine comes with a huge thank you to Laura, Ark and everyone who has organised this.

For now, anyone who wants to join can send their request to

Quantum Future Group, Inc
P.O. Box 4322
Boulder, CO 80306

You will receive from me a little questionnaire and statement of support of the principles that you must sign and return, and then I will send you a certificate of membership and a membership card to carry in your wallet. It will help if you include a few bux for postage!

Would it be possible to do this by email? There was a postal strike here in the UK on Thursday and Friday (22 and 23 October), and they are planning another three-day strike quite soon, so the postal service is disrupted.

OMG!

I had to stop reading let the tears out. I'm so lucky to be part of this forum.

I feel overwhelmed and excited!

Thank you Laura and everybody!

You give us hope in a hopeless world.

I second that, another Magyar - not to mention third and fourth!! ;)

still, the first thought of creating a 'church' gave me a bit of concern, seeing how such groups have been mostly used for selfish purposes and the founding members that once were honorable becoming corrupt. I'll be keenly watching how this unfolds,

We’re simply playing the PTB at their own legality game. I guess that for a lot of people, the word ‘church’ has many negative connotations, but we just have to detach ourselves from our conditioned responses to the word.

And, with Laura and Ark et al at the helm, not to mention the Cs, this project has a very very high probability of remaining uncorrupted.

I think that any requirement QFS ask for anybody who wants to participate is minimal considerating the gigantic work they are doing.

I agree. The minimum contribution would be to regularly do the breathing and prayer meditation, and to regularly make a financial contribution according to one’s means – this kind of work needs money, as well as ‘energetic’ support.

 

[León]

Thank you very much Laura and team for your hard hard work and super efforts that made this possible.

I'm so gratefull.

 

[Scottie]

For now, anyone who wants to join can send their request to

Quantum Future Group, Inc
P.O. Box 4322
Boulder, CO 80306

You will receive from me a little questionnaire and statement of support of the principles that you must sign and return, and then I will send you a certificate of membership and a membership card to carry in your wallet. It will help if you include a few bux for postage!

Would it be possible to do this by email? There was a postal strike here in the UK on Thursday and Friday (22 and 23 October), and they are planning another three-day strike quite soon, so the postal service is disrupted.

I think the idea here is to create an honest to god paper trail. Legally speaking, e-mails are usually not very useful. A signed document carries weight in court and is more official.

This way, the Fellowship has your official request on file, and eventually your signed statement, and you end up with an official copy of both plus a membership card. This ain't no "Universal Web Church" where you sign up on the net!

In any case, not to worry... If the post where you are is causing troubles for too long, we'll find a way around it.

 

[Gimpy]

Yes indeed, a long time coming but there it is: The Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind has been born.

Once we get the Statement of Principles finalized, there will be a website. But, even before that, I think we can be enrolling members - founding members I guess we will call them - who will help with all the details of getting things rolling. We'll be setting up a closed forum for FOTCM members to discuss plans and implementation, too.

For now, anyone who wants to join can send their request to

Quantum Future Group, Inc
P.O. Box 4322
Boulder, CO 80306

You will receive from me a little questionnaire and statement of support of the principles that you must sign and return, and then I will send you a certificate of membership and a membership card to carry in your wallet. It will help if you include a few bux for postage!

WAAA-HOOO!!

*wipes eyes*

This is the best news of the year.....and a much needed ray of light! And away we go!

*hoping my printer will work today* :D

 

[Tigersoap]

I think the idea here is to create an honest to god paper trail. Legally speaking, e-mails are usually not very useful. A signed document carries weight in court and is more official.

Would it be possible to have the documents directly available for download ? I suppose most people can print them out, sign them and send them back via snail mail ?
maybe you don't want that for the above mentionned reason.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Also, keep in mind that even in "religion-free" countries where the law is the most important, there are still things like good old "anti-Semitism" rules that have a lot of power, regardless of the law. In many countries, these rules have been made into laws. So, as far as I can see, not only do we have a wonderful template from the PTB in terms of protection under official religion, but we also have a potential template for other nations where religion is not "protected" as strongly. For example, anti-hate laws...

So, one thing at a time! ;)

Ahaaaa, the other way around, use their own weapon, I understand now ;) It will require lot of work on it though . . .

 

[Helle]

You will receive from me a little questionnaire and statement of support of the principles that you must sign and return, and then I will send you a certificate of membership and a membership card to carry in your wallet. It will help if you include a few bux for postage!

How do I include a bit o' Bux the easiest way? I don't have cheques, so the easiest for me would be to make a banktransfer. I have an ongoing subscription to QFS, maybe I can find the bank info via that?

 

[Nem]

Wow, that's a huge step!
However, I'm quite concerned, and can be quite ignorant, but if it is an official and legal "religion" what about the current "religion" somebody is "signed in". You can't follow two religions right? So, for example, in order for myself to participate I would need to resign from the former resulting in apostasy ( so excommunication, loss of rights for a catholic marriage) etc ? Or am I misleading myself here? It's just so exciting but overwhelms me as well.

 

[atiil]

It really does bring tears to the eyes, using the same process that protects the ability of religious brainwashers to keep their flocks asleep, we can use for the benefit of all, where do I sign -- sheer genius!!! ;D ;D