"Apocryphon of John" and " Revelation of John" are two different texts.
Here you can read the summary and its quite interesting
Apocryphon of John - Wikipedia
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Session 24 September 1995
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This session is really interesting, really.
To understand the confusion of who is the Aryans / Celts / Nordics and Illyrians is more than needed those days.
A bit of info of one of the Illyrian tribes that are the most unresearched history in Europe - Iapydes - Wikipedia
Unfortunately, there is no English versions of more relevant research done by a few enthusiasts, but the permanent war history of Balkans, compared to the geology of the place, and fact that Nikola Tesla was born there, can be related to the "replacements" mention in this session - Session 4 May 1996.
To understand the confusion of who is the Aryans / Celts / Nordics and Illyrians is more than needed those days.
A bit of info of one of the Illyrian tribes that are the most unresearched history in Europe - Iapydes - Wikipedia
Unfortunately, there is no English versions of more relevant research done by a few enthusiasts, but the permanent war history of Balkans, compared to the geology of the place, and fact that Nikola Tesla was born there, can be related to the "replacements" mention in this session - Session 4 May 1996.
@Tyco,
I only gave you a reference to what the Cs said. The Cs said "A: Ancient atheists."
I have read the book of Revelation in the Bible and I certainly had to re-think after the Cs interpretation greatly differed from anything I had ever read or considered. I have not read many other Gnostic texts such as those referring to Sophia except other authors' excerpts.
I think @christx11 makes good point that it may not be a condemnation of all Gnostic texts but just those that have been specifically corrupted by the Lizzies.
I am not sure what you mean by "this material here". If the "material here is "apocryphon of John" it might be they read it from an "anthropocentric" point of view not realizing they are a bio-genetically engineered species. Are their gods are created in their own image or they are created in the image of their gods? Either way, they do not consider that they may have been tampered with by a 4D STS group of lesser "gods" but nevertheless highly intelligent ones even capable of time-travel. I think we could easily be influenced to think we are at a higher place in the food chain than we really are.
The Wave Chapter 62: Secret Games at Princeton :
Until recently, I don't think there has been any evidence for there being a planet orbiting Barnard's Star, which is one of the planets the C's said in this session was a locator for the grey aliens:
A: Lyra is not inhabited. There have been homes in all places, but some were/are transitory, and some are not. Pay attention to Orion! This is your ancestral home, and your eventual destination. Here is the absolutely accurately accurate profile of Orion to follow: This is the most heavily populated region of your Milky Way galaxy! This is a region that extends across 3rd and 4th density space for a distance as vast as the distance between your locator and it. There are 3,444 inhabited "worlds" in this region. Some are planets as you know them. Some are artificially constructed planetoids. Some are floating space barges. And some are "satellites." There are primary homes, travelling stations and incubator laboratories all in 2nd, 3rd and 4th densities. There are overseer zones in 5th and 6th densities. Approximately one half is STO and one half is STS. Together, along with many other colonies, located elsewhere, this is called, in translation, Orion Federation. Orions created grays in 5 varieties, as cyber-genetic beings, and installed them on Zeta Reticuli 1, 2, 3, and 4, as well as on 2 planets orbiting Barnard's Star. The Reptilians also inhabit 6 planets in the Orion region in 4th density, and are owned by the Orion STS as slaves, and, in some cases, pets!!! The name "Orion" is the actual native name, and was brought to earth directly. Study the legend of the "god" of Orion for parallels.
See also the session dated 7 October 1995:
A: Many different groups and individuals. Now, there are indeed actual residential locators mentioned in various writings which are factual. Orion, obviously, Zeta Reticuli, Rigel, Barnard's Star, Sirius Region, though not the actual astronomic body as mentioned.
The solo star, which is known as Barnard’s star, is a red dwarf which is around 80% smaller than our sun and sits around six light years away from our solar system.
The newly discovered planet, dubbed Barnard b, has half the mass of Venus, and a year on it lasts slightly more than three Earth days.
The astronomers published their findings in the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.
Using the European Southern Observatory’s Very Large Telescope (ESO’s VLT), the researchers also suggest that there could be three more exoplanets that orbit the star.
However, the researchers are sure there is no life on Barnard b as it sits twenty times closer to Barnard’s star than Mercury is to the Sun, and therefore has a surface temperature of a blisteringly hot 125°C. [MJF: Hmm ... I wouldn't be so sure about that!]
Despite Barnard’s star being the single closest solo star to us, the exoplanet is not the closest one to Earth. The closest stellar system to Earth is the three star group of Alpha Centauri, which hosts the planet Proxima Centauri b and is around four light years away.
Researchers were excited to find this planet, as no planet orbiting Barnard’s star has been discovered until now – and due to its proximity to Earth, it is a primary target in the search for Earth-like exoplanets.
The team are particularly interested in rocky worlds in the habitable zone around this close star.
This region, also known as the ‘Goldilocks zone’, is special because it is the area around a star that is neither too hot nor too cold for water to exist on an orbiting planet without boiling away or freezing. And if there is liquid water, among other things, there may be life.
Barnard b was discovered as a result of observations made over five years using the VLT, which is located in Chile.
Using a highly precise instrument called ESPRESSO (the Echelle Spectrograph for Rocky Exoplanet and Stable Spectroscopic Observations), the team measured the wobble of a star which is caused by the gravitational pull of one more orbiting planets to find Barnard b.
Then, when the researchers thought they had found something, they confirmed their findings by using data from the exoplanet-hunting High Accuracy Radial Velocity Planet Searcher (HARPS).
The researchers were looking for signals from possible exoplanets within the habitable or temperate zone of Barnard’s star, which is the range where liquid water can exist on the planet’s surface. Red dwarfs like Barnard’s star are often targeted by astronomers since low-mass rocky planets are easier to detect there than around larger Sun-like stars.
Lead author Dr Jonay González Hernández said: ‘Even if it took a long time, we were always confident that we could find something.
‘Barnard b is one of the lowest-mass exoplanets known and one of the few known with a mass less than that of Earth. But the planet is too close to the host star, closer than the habitable zone.
‘Even if the star is about 2500 degrees cooler than our Sun, it is too hot there to maintain liquid water on the surface.’ [MJF: Maybe not an issue for 4D cybergenetic beings]
This exciting finding offers a huge range of untapped possibilities in the search for life outside Earth. So what’s next?
Co-author Dr Alejandro Suárez Mascareño said: ‘We now need to continue observing this star to confirm the other candidate signals.
‘But the discovery of this planet, along with other previous discoveries such as Proxima b and d, shows that our cosmic backyard is full of low-mass planets.’
A: Lyra is not inhabited. There have been homes in all places, but some were/are transitory, and some are not. Pay attention to Orion! This is your ancestral home, and your eventual destination. Here is the absolutely accurately accurate profile of Orion to follow: This is the most heavily populated region of your Milky Way galaxy! This is a region that extends across 3rd and 4th density space for a distance as vast as the distance between your locator and it. There are 3,444 inhabited "worlds" in this region. Some are planets as you know them. Some are artificially constructed planetoids. Some are floating space barges. And some are "satellites." There are primary homes, travelling stations and incubator laboratories all in 2nd, 3rd and 4th densities. There are overseer zones in 5th and 6th densities. Approximately one half is STO and one half is STS. Together, along with many other colonies, located elsewhere, this is called, in translation, Orion Federation. Orions created grays in 5 varieties, as cyber-genetic beings, and installed them on Zeta Reticuli 1, 2, 3, and 4, as well as on 2 planets orbiting Barnard's Star. The Reptilians also inhabit 6 planets in the Orion region in 4th density, and are owned by the Orion STS as slaves, and, in some cases, pets!!! The name "Orion" is the actual native name, and was brought to earth directly. Study the legend of the "god" of Orion for parallels.
See also the session dated 7 October 1995:
A: Many different groups and individuals. Now, there are indeed actual residential locators mentioned in various writings which are factual. Orion, obviously, Zeta Reticuli, Rigel, Barnard's Star, Sirius Region, though not the actual astronomic body as mentioned.
Well this may just have changed since a planet, which is half the size of Venus (which is slightly smaller than Earth). has recently been discovered orbiting Barnard's Star, which is a mere 6 light years from our solar system, almost next door in galactic terms:
New planet discovered orbiting a star close to Earth
Story by Hiyah Zaidi
Astronomers have discovered a planet orbiting the closest solo star to Earth. The solo star, which is known as Barnard’s star, is a red dwarf which is around 80% smaller than our sun and sits around six light years away from our solar system.
The newly discovered planet, dubbed Barnard b, has half the mass of Venus, and a year on it lasts slightly more than three Earth days.
The astronomers published their findings in the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.
Using the European Southern Observatory’s Very Large Telescope (ESO’s VLT), the researchers also suggest that there could be three more exoplanets that orbit the star.
However, the researchers are sure there is no life on Barnard b as it sits twenty times closer to Barnard’s star than Mercury is to the Sun, and therefore has a surface temperature of a blisteringly hot 125°C. [MJF: Hmm ... I wouldn't be so sure about that!]
Despite Barnard’s star being the single closest solo star to us, the exoplanet is not the closest one to Earth. The closest stellar system to Earth is the three star group of Alpha Centauri, which hosts the planet Proxima Centauri b and is around four light years away.
Researchers were excited to find this planet, as no planet orbiting Barnard’s star has been discovered until now – and due to its proximity to Earth, it is a primary target in the search for Earth-like exoplanets.
The team are particularly interested in rocky worlds in the habitable zone around this close star.
This region, also known as the ‘Goldilocks zone’, is special because it is the area around a star that is neither too hot nor too cold for water to exist on an orbiting planet without boiling away or freezing. And if there is liquid water, among other things, there may be life.
Barnard b was discovered as a result of observations made over five years using the VLT, which is located in Chile.
Using a highly precise instrument called ESPRESSO (the Echelle Spectrograph for Rocky Exoplanet and Stable Spectroscopic Observations), the team measured the wobble of a star which is caused by the gravitational pull of one more orbiting planets to find Barnard b.
Then, when the researchers thought they had found something, they confirmed their findings by using data from the exoplanet-hunting High Accuracy Radial Velocity Planet Searcher (HARPS).
The researchers were looking for signals from possible exoplanets within the habitable or temperate zone of Barnard’s star, which is the range where liquid water can exist on the planet’s surface. Red dwarfs like Barnard’s star are often targeted by astronomers since low-mass rocky planets are easier to detect there than around larger Sun-like stars.
Lead author Dr Jonay González Hernández said: ‘Even if it took a long time, we were always confident that we could find something.
‘Barnard b is one of the lowest-mass exoplanets known and one of the few known with a mass less than that of Earth. But the planet is too close to the host star, closer than the habitable zone.
‘Even if the star is about 2500 degrees cooler than our Sun, it is too hot there to maintain liquid water on the surface.’ [MJF: Maybe not an issue for 4D cybergenetic beings]
This exciting finding offers a huge range of untapped possibilities in the search for life outside Earth. So what’s next?
Co-author Dr Alejandro Suárez Mascareño said: ‘We now need to continue observing this star to confirm the other candidate signals.
‘But the discovery of this planet, along with other previous discoveries such as Proxima b and d, shows that our cosmic backyard is full of low-mass planets.’
The answer may be to find the other planet orbiting Barnard's Star, which is also a home to the greys in this star system. As the article reveals, the researchers believe that there could be three more exoplanets that orbit this star, so we may find this other planet one day soon.
Could Barnard b therefore be one of the two planets orbiting Barnard's Star, which the C's said were a home for the greys? Although it appears to be orbiting far too close to its parent star to be in the habitable zone and has a ridiculously short year (3 days), I don't see why this might necessarily be an obstacle for cybergenetic beings like the greys. Afterall, they are 4th density beings and the C's have said that the gas giants Jupiter and Saturn are 4D worlds, suggesting 4D beings could occupy them, even though they would never be habitable for us as 3D beings.
Anyway, this discovery has at least proven that there is one rocky world in this solar system. Perhaps there are others yet to be found.
BTW: It is curious that in Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek TV shows, the Orions are usually depicted as green-coloured humanoids who also happen to be notorious galactic slave masters. This makes me wonder what exactly Roddenberry knew or whether it may just have been a case of Thor's Pantheum of Aryan psychic projectors at work.
Could Barnard b therefore be one of the two planets orbiting Barnard's Star, which the C's said were a home for the greys? Although it appears to be orbiting far too close to its parent star to be in the habitable zone and has a ridiculously short year (3 days), I don't see why this might necessarily be an obstacle for cybergenetic beings like the greys. Afterall, they are 4th density beings and the C's have said that the gas giants Jupiter and Saturn are 4D worlds, suggesting 4D beings could occupy them, even though they would never be habitable for us as 3D beings.
Anyway, this discovery has at least proven that there is one rocky world in this solar system. Perhaps there are others yet to be found.
BTW: It is curious that in Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek TV shows, the Orions are usually depicted as green-coloured humanoids who also happen to be notorious galactic slave masters. This makes me wonder what exactly Roddenberry knew or whether it may just have been a case of Thor's Pantheum of Aryan psychic projectors at work.
Claus
Dagobah Resident
Thank you @MJF for the article.
Now for my part there comes a question about the grey's, to maybe ask the C's about, do they need water?
Or is water optional for them?
What do you think?
Maybe you are right and the planet is habitable despite being near to its sun, but our scientists can not know that now.
Now for my part there comes a question about the grey's, to maybe ask the C's about, do they need water?
Or is water optional for them?
What do you think?
Maybe you are right and the planet is habitable despite being near to its sun, but our scientists can not know that now.
Since they are in 4D, maybe things are different than how we see the planet?
Maybe the question could be more direct like - do the grey's inhabit that newly discovered planet?
I think they play by different rules to us in 3D. The C's said that like the reptilians, they only need to take nourishment in the form of absorbing enzymes etc. through their skin when in 3D. When they are in 4D they can absorb emotional energy directly from the likes of us. So when in 4D they may not need water.
Debra
The Living Force
You may find the answers to your question regarding what Gene knew, in the book “The Only Planet of Choice”, written in 1993, by Phyllis V. Schlemmer.
There are odd second hand copies for sale, here’s a screen shot of the first time Gene spoke with “Tom”, the Council of 9 representative that Phyllis channeled.
[…]
[…]
If your interested, the link to the on line archive of the full book is here:
Thank you @Debra for a puzzle piece and reference.
I could only find "Council of Nine" twice in the sessions.
The first occurrence I found:
Session 7 October 1995:
The second occurrence I found:
Session 12 April 1997:
I don't know if @Laura found any additional information or not but you have an interesting connection with Gene Roddenberry.
I wonder what the "Partial deception" may be.
Could it be in the Full text of "The Only Planet of Choice" ? where is starts:
I hope not but who knows where the deception really may lie.
The Nine Channellings recently came up in the Imminent Alien Disclosure thread as well - see: Imminent Alien Disclosure?. I quote below the relevant section as regards Gene Roddenberry:
In 1972, Puthoff joined Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in Menlo, California, in the electronics and bioengineering laboratory. There he worked on quantum physics and parapsychological phenomena, notably the government-funded remote viewing program known as Star Gate, which he co-founded and co-directed, investigating the purported ability to retrieve visual information from distantly located sites by ESP. Puthoff collaborated with Russell Targ extensively throughout the program, carrying out tests with psychic viewers such as Pat Price (who discovered the underground alien base in Alaska) , Ingo Swann and Joe McMoneagle.
Many today think the Stanford Research Institute is in fact a CIA front. I don't know if Puthoff had any involvement with the channelling sessions of 'The Nine' or 'Council of Nine' but supposedly SRI scientists participated in them. These channellings were originally run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich who turned out to be a chemist who worked for the CIA and was also involved in the infamous MK Ultra project. Together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb, Puharich experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes… even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject’s brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research.
Puharich would also achieve international recognition as a parapsychologist who in 1971 discovered Uri Geller in Israel. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel to America. He would subsequently collaborate with Russell Targ in a study of Geller's purported psychic abilities. Geller incidentally had his own links with Israeli military intelligence.
According to Terence Hines:
In 1972, Puthoff joined Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in Menlo, California, in the electronics and bioengineering laboratory. There he worked on quantum physics and parapsychological phenomena, notably the government-funded remote viewing program known as Star Gate, which he co-founded and co-directed, investigating the purported ability to retrieve visual information from distantly located sites by ESP. Puthoff collaborated with Russell Targ extensively throughout the program, carrying out tests with psychic viewers such as Pat Price (who discovered the underground alien base in Alaska) , Ingo Swann and Joe McMoneagle.
Many today think the Stanford Research Institute is in fact a CIA front. I don't know if Puthoff had any involvement with the channelling sessions of 'The Nine' or 'Council of Nine' but supposedly SRI scientists participated in them. These channellings were originally run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich who turned out to be a chemist who worked for the CIA and was also involved in the infamous MK Ultra project. Together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb, Puharich experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes… even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject’s brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research.
Puharich would also achieve international recognition as a parapsychologist who in 1971 discovered Uri Geller in Israel. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel to America. He would subsequently collaborate with Russell Targ in a study of Geller's purported psychic abilities. Geller incidentally had his own links with Israeli military intelligence.
According to Terence Hines:
For more see: Plan Nine From Outer Space - Uri Geller
Intriguingly, the Council of Nine did become something of a New Age cult and therefore could be viewed as an attempt to institute a New World Religion based around the Ennead or the Nine Ancient Gods of Egypt centred on Heliopolis and the Temple of Ra, the Egyptian sun god, which reminds me of something the C's once said - Q: Well why did it turn into Sun worship instead of Moon worship? A: Future honour of Ra. Go 353535. Deity.
Indeed, one individual who became deeply involved in the Nine Channellings was TV producer and Rosicrucian Gene Roddenberry. Roddenberry was part of the Nine circle in 1974 and 1975, and even produced the screenplay for a movie about The Nine. How much he was influenced by them is unknown, although it is said that some of their concepts found their way into the early Star Trek movies and Star Trek The Next Generation and Star Trek Deep Space Nine TV series, the latter especially being full of references to the Nine material.
So, we have a real rabbit hole in the Nine involving: CIA operatives, scientists from the Stanford Research Institute, multi-millionaire businessmen (many hiding behind pseudonyms), European nobility, Gene Roddenberry (TV producer and Rosicrucian), psychics like Uri Geller and new age guru types including influential counter-culture guru Ira Einhorn who would later go on to commit murder and Dr James J Hurtak who would write the seminal book The Keys of Enoch, which contains spiritual-scientific teaching from two higher Teachers of universal intelligence called “Enoch” and “Metatron” but was supposedly not channelled - except it later emerged that he had been independently channelling The Nine since 1973.
As I wrote on the Alton Towers thread - see: Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians
Another key player in Lab Nine was Dr James J Hurtak, who was appointed Puharich’s second-in-command by The Nine. In fact, Hurtak had been independently channelling The Nine since 1973. This is the same James Hurtak who wrote the ‘Keys of Enoch’ mentioned in the Session dated March 7, 1995:
teaching? James Hurtak claims that he was taken up to the higher
realms and that the 'Keys' were programmed into him...
A: Disguised reality.
Q: (L) The place that he was taken to?
A: Not the place, the message.
Q: (L) What is the source of this disguised reality?
A: Research; one here studies a bit too much to discover explosive
reality trailblazings.
Q: (L) Okay. Is there coded information in this book on several levels
as M*** suggests?
A: There is coded information all over the place. Suggest slower
pace of studying in order to discover earth shaking principles.
That "disguised reality" may have been the Nine channellings, which came out of research by the CIA and the Stanford Research Institute and might in turn reflect the C's answer to Laura "Research". The C's reference to "reality trailblazings" might link with the fact that The Nine Channellings can be viewed as the beginning of the modern channelling phenomenon, which would later include the Ra Law of One channel, Seth speaks etc. Indeed, Puharich would sit in on a couple of the later Ra channellings and went on record as saying that he thought the channel emanated from the same source as the Nine.
As to the C's suggesting to Laura that she should take ancient references - well they don't get much more ancient than those of the Nine:
In this extraordinary book the true identity of The Nine – and of Tom – was finally revealed. Far from being the chummy character that his rather avuncular name suggests, Tom is actually Atum, the creator-god of the ancient Egyptian religion of Heliopolis, and Uncle Tom with his eight mates are none other than the Great Ennead [MJF: the nine principal gods of Egypt] of Heliopolis.
However, they also referred to themselves as something else, something that should raise a red flag for us:
"We are what is identified [in the Hebraic tradition] as the Elohim. We wish you to know we are not God. We are collective and become one. We wish you to know that we are you as you are we. You created us, and out of that creation you were created."
Here is what the C's said about the Elohim:
Session 7 March 1995:
Q: (L) Who were the Elohim of the Bible?
A: Transdefinitive. And variable entities. [...] First manifestation was human, then non-human. [...]
Q: (L) Well, what brought about their transformation from human to non-human?
A: Pact or covenant.
Q: (L) They made a pact or covenant with each other?
A: No, with 4th density STS.
Q: (L) Well, that is not good! Are you saying that the Elohim are STS? Who were these STS beings they made a pact with?
A: Rosteem, now manifests as Rosicrucians.
Q: (L) What is their purpose?
A: As yet unrevealable to you.
So, if The Nine are really linked to the Elohim, then they are also linked with the Rosteem (of Giza) and today with the Rosicrucians (a group who Gene Roddenberry belonged to). As you can see, this opens up a whole new can of worms. Indeed, you could start a whole new thread on this.
Debra
The Living Force
My take away from researching this stuff, for 30+ years, keeps coming back to the programming of humanity to accept and welcome our conscience brains becoming incorporated with machines.
The transhuman project, brain implants, body modification, nanobots, implants, and eventually being hooked up to “The internet of THINGS”.
In 2018 I began having dreams about the coming “Singularity”.
I read several books, a couple fiction ones that were pretty interesting, then found this one by
Dr. Douglas Haugen.
On Amazon his biography reads:
Dr. Douglas Haugen a traveling scholar whose academic journey
has spanned some of the finest institutions in the United States.
He earned his Master’s degree from Harvard University, and Ph.D.
from the City University of New York, where he began showcasing
his unwavering commitment to the exploration of deep history and
the epistemic construction of world empire.[…]
The book title is :
Seeing Through The Singularity: Uncovering The Cosmic Conspiracy
Reading Doug’s book, was one of the reasons that brought me back to sharing and posting to this Forum.The description of the book is:
“Today’s headlines bombard us with stories of impending doom: wars and rumors of wars, alien incursions, robot invasions, and warnings that we must merge with technology or face imminent extinction.
Seeing through the Singularity is a work of political eschatology that explores today’s events in light of the competing systems of ideas that surround yet blind us. We examine these systems from ancient sorcery, through the dialectics of collective mind control, into the New Age movement and transhumanism.
Our journey concludes with the current externalizing of spiritual forces that are leading humanity into the Campaign of Armageddon.”
I highly recommend reading it.
I whole heartedly agree with your analysis. Where you say "The transhuman project, brain implants, body modification, nanobots, implants, and eventually being hooked up to “The internet of THINGS”, when you boil that down you finally end up with a human being approximating a Borg drone from the Star Trek universe, created by none other than Gene Roddenberry. Is this the final end of transhumanism, a zombie-like, hive being. Indeed, one wonders whether the grey aliens, supposedly created by the Lizzies as 4D cybergenetic probes according to the C's, may in fact be future humanoid hybrids. This would explain why they have been coming back through time to conduct genetic experiments on humans and creating hybrids to ensure their future existence and survival:
Session 14 October 1995:
Q: Hello.
A: Hello. Matrix material.
Q: (T) Matrix material?
A: Yes.
Q: (T): Who is the person who did this? (L) Many. It's a compilation of many things. There are a lot of people who did the Matrix material. (T): Does it say that somewhere? (L) Yes. (T): Because I haven't looked at any of it yet. (L) One guy has edited it together and arranged it into about 4,000 pages or so... (T) 4,000 pages, and we've only got 300? And we can't edit it (ours)? And he did 4,000? (L) Well... (SV) It took him fifteen years. (T) When was it written? (L) The last one came out in 1992 or 1994. (T) When did the first one come out? (L) 1988. (F) A lot of it is just copies of documents and stuff... (L) Like photocopies of newspaper clippings and stuff like that, but it's arranged in quite a comprehensive order. (SV) A lot of it is really scary. (L) I want to ask about one thing from the Matrix material. I want to know who and what are the "Esseseni?"
A: Hybrids, new.
Q: (L) They are new hybrids? And what are they a hybridization of? What are the sources of the material for the hybridization?
A: Humans and grays.
Q: (L) Are the Esseseni positively oriented beings, as has been suggested by some?
A: Split.
Q: (T): Some STS, some STO?
A: Yes.
It has always struck me that the name "Esseseni" has a close resemblance to the name "Essenes". Is this just coincidental?
Perhaps humanity has two different possible 4D futures, one STO oriented and one STS oriented. This reminds me of the mirror universe theme in Star Trek, which was explored first in the original series and then continued in Star Trek Deep Space Nine, Star Trek Enterprise and Star Trek Discovery - see Mirror Universe - Wikipedia. The one universe features a peaceful united federation of planets, the other a brutal Terran empire. Could this Roddenberry inspired concept be loosely based upon the Federation the C's have referred to and the Orion Federation or Empire mentioned in the transcripts?
Session 30 July 1994:Perhaps humanity has two different possible 4D futures, one STO oriented and one STS oriented. This reminds me of the mirror universe theme in Star Trek, which was explored first in the original series and then continued in Star Trek Deep Space Nine, Star Trek Enterprise and Star Trek Discovery - see Mirror Universe - Wikipedia. The one universe features a peaceful united federation of planets, the other a brutal Terran empire. Could this Roddenberry inspired concept be loosely based upon the Federation the C's have referred to and the Orion Federation or Empire mentioned in the transcripts?
Q: (L) Who is putting implants in us?
A: Orions.
Q: (L) And there is nothing we can do about it? That's sick!
A: A matter of perspective.
Q: (L) What do the Orions look like?
A: Grays.
Q: (L) Are they big nosed grays like I have read about in some sources?
A: Both kinds of grays.
Q: (L) Are they insectoid?
A: No.
Q: (L) Do they have hive souls? [MJF: They may have no souls at all and thus could operate as a collective hive mind in the way that ants and bees do.]
A: No.
Q: (L) Do they have emotions?
A: No.
Q: (L) Do they want human bodies as hosts?
A: Some.
Q: (L) What is their planet like?
A: Similar to earth.
[...]
Q: (L) What group are you with?
A: Federation. Among many.
Q: (L) Is there any way we can prevent Orion abductions?
A: No.
Q: (L) Why?
A: It would interfere with universal law of free will and service to self.
Q: (L) But we don't want to be abducted. Can't we stop it?
A: Not likely. They have more power than you.
Q: (L) Well then, why can't you help us?
A: Would interfere in natural progression of your race and theirs. Jews called upon us to save them - could not. And natives of your land from your race - could not stop that either. Natural progression, see?
Q: (L) Are we going to be wiped out by aliens as part of this natural progression?
A: Maybe. What makes you feel you are special?
[…]
A: But it is the soul that matters, not the body. The body dies not the soul.
Q: (L) Well, this whole thing just gives us the creeps.
A: No. You are energy. There is an energy that comes from soul and body connection; later the body is used for parts.
Q: (L) What are they using our energy and bodies for?
A: Create a new race. Theirs fading out.
Q: (L) Well, do they just take people and kill them and do what with them?
A: Slice them up.
Q: (L) Do they die?
A: Maximum matter and energy transfer during transition.
[…]
Q: (L) Will there be atomic war?
A: No.
Q: (L) Will there be a war in the sky with the aliens?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be between Orions and the Federation?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be visible on earth?
A: Oh, yes.
Q: (L) When will this be?
A: It has already started. Will intensify steadily.
Q: (L) Why are we not aware that it has already started?
A: Disguised at this point as weather. Fighting part still in other dimension. Will go to this one within 18 years. Anytime within this period. Not determinable exactly when. Could be tomorrow or 18 years.
Session 16 October 1994:
Q: (V) I had an experience with Preying Mantis beings. Who are they?
A: Minturians.
Q: (L) Where are they from?
A: Orion.
Q: (L) Are the Orions the bad guys?
A: Subjective.
Q: (L) Well, what group do they belong to?
A: Federation as do the Plieadians.
Session 4 March 1995:
A: We are providing invaluable information which becomes knowledge, but you are under attack, therefore, you could maybe use some direct power from the same density as the attack is coming from.
Q: (F) But, until you have total knowledge... (L) You don't have the kind of power we are talking about needing. (F) Right. We would would need 500,000 pages of transcript to have that kind of knowledge, to get to that point. (L) Okay, what is the phone number of the Orion Federation? (S) Laura! (T) That's what I was going to ask. [Laughter.] (L) How do we get ahold of them?
A: Off the hook!
Q: (T) Uh oh! (L) They're busy? (T) Getting a lot of calls. (L) Okay, guys, what do we need to do here?
A: Find a "Nordic." They are on Earth posing as humans.*
Q: (T) They are 4th density. I thought they...
A: Yes.
Q: (T) I thought that 4th density couldn't hold the frequency that long and that is why the Lizards have so much trouble. (J) They're STS.
A: Not STO!
*As to the Nordics, the C's subsequently told us that: "Nordic" Physiology is identical to yours, with the exception being their cranium, which averages 3 per cent larger. Discuss for insight.
Which then brings us back to the current session thread.
Session 24 September 1995:
Q: (L) Well, we know we are... (RC) We are creators, but we aren't the Prime Creator...
A: Prime Creator Manifests IN you.
Q: (L) Okay, so at the root is Prime Creator.
A: But... who was secondary?
Q: (RC) The Sons of God? The Elohim?
[MJF: Recalling here that The Nine, through Tom, referred to themselves as the Elohim: "We are what is identified [in the Hebraic tradition] as the Elohim. We wish you to know we are not God. We are collective and become one. We wish you to know that we are you as you are we. You created us, and out of that creation you were created." The C's you will recall described the Elohim as trans-definitive and variable beings, whose first manifestation was human and then non-human. By "non-human" could they have meant transhuman perhaps?]
A: Who is that? Remember, your various legends are "seen through a veil."
Q: (L) Okay, the secondary creators are the ones interacting with us directly?
A: Okay.
[...]
Q: (RC) Okay, getting back to the Celts, were the Pleiadians the secondary creators who brought in the Celts?
A: Review what we have just said!
Q: (L) They said it was the Orions. Are the Orions these secondary creators? (RC) Well, I read that it was the Pleiadians. And the Hebrews were originally the Hoovids who came from Sirius...
A: Here comes a shocker for you... one day, in 4th density, it will be your descendants mission to carry on the tradition and assignment of seeding the 3rd density universe, once you have the adequate knowledge!!!
Q: (L) If the Orion STS brought the Celts here, were the Celts, while they lived on Kantek, in the form they are in now?
A: They were lighter in appearance.
Q: (L) You have told us on other occasions that the Semitic peoples were remnants of the Atlanteans, and yet they are quite unlike...
A: Whoa!! Wait a minute, let's not get ahead of ourselves. First things first. What Roxanne said was not entirely factual. Remember, there is much disinformation to weed through.
Q: (RC) What did I say that was not factual?
A: In this part of your 3rd and 4th density universe, specifically your "galaxy" it is the region known as Orion that is the one and only indigenous home of human type beings... reflect on this! Indigenous home base, not sole locator. What you are most in need of review of is the accurate profile of "alien" data.
Q: (RC) I thought that humans originated in Lyra and then a war broke out there and they ended up in Orion. [MJF: The C's later confirmed that human beings were/will be molecularised, on a planet called D'Ankhiar, which is in the constellation of Scorpio.]
A: Lyra is not inhabited. There have been homes in all places, but some were/are transitory, and some are not. Pay attention to Orion! This is your ancestral home, and your eventual destination. Here is the absolutely accurately accurate profile of Orion to follow: This is the most heavily populated region of your Milky Way galaxy! This is a region that extends across 3rd and 4th density space for a distance as vast as the distance between your locator and it. There are 3,444 inhabited "worlds" in this region. Some are planets as you know them. Some are artificially constructed planetoids. Some are floating space barges. And some are "satellites." There are primary homes, travelling stations and incubator laboratories all in 2nd, 3rd and 4th densities. There are overseer zones in 5th and 6th densities. Approximately one half is STO and one half is STS. Together, along with many other colonies, located elsewhere, this is called, in translation, Orion Federation. Orions created grays in 5 varieties, as cyber-genetic beings, and installed them on Zeta Reticuli 1, 2, 3, and 4, as well as on 2 planets orbiting Barnard's Star. The Reptilians also inhabit 6 planets in the Orion region in 4th density, and are owned by the Orion STS as slaves, and, in some cases, pets!!! The name "Orion" is the actual native name, and was brought to earth directly. Study the legend of the "god" of Orion for parallels.
Q: (L) Are the Orion STS the infamous red-headed Nordic aliens?
A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations. [MJF: Which could include the Greys]
Session 16 December 1995:
Q: (L) I received an e-mail from a fellow who experienced something similar to what happened to me which you called an "eclipsing of realities."
A: It was an abduction by cyber-genetic probes [Greys] whose origin, or more correctly, "station," is the 5th planet around Betelgeuse, known as A.Hur in Orion federation 4th density STS.
Q: (L) What was the purpose of this abduction?
A: Screen for compatibility for placement on shune, platter, within Mark Status 3.
Q: (L) What does that mean? Placement on "shune, platter”?
A: It is a demarcation status for compatibility of future "worker" status. [MJF: That doesn't sound like a very promising future to me!]
So, it seems we, as humanity, may have two different or parallel futures, one as STO members of a peaceful federation seeding life on other worlds or one as STS members of the Orion Empire akin to what Gene Roddenberry described in the mirror universe in Star Trek. The collective choice will it appears be ours and may be what the 1,000 year period mentioned in the New Testament is referring to in the context of the Wave:
Session 4 April 2105:
Q: (L) So somebody's who's waiting for a specific date for some kind of big flash to happen and suddenly they're gonna go from one world into another, they're simply not grasping the cosmic scale of thing?Session 4 April 2105:
A: Exactly! We once said that it was a grand example of cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance". You simply do not have the full perspective!
Q: (L) So that means that we are talking about changes on such a huge scale that our perspective is that of...
A: For some things may be more dramatic than others.
Q: (Galatea) Meaning what? More dramatic how?
A: Depending on karmic "weight".
Q: (Pierre) Didn't in one session the C's describe the Wave process as what is called in the scriptures as the One Thousand Year period?
(L) No, I don't think so.
(Galatea) Are you saying that for some people this transition will be painful?
A: Yes
(L) I think they said that after the Wave there would be a 1000 year period as 3D transitions into 4D.
A: Yes
Q: (L) So in other words, in a sense that is kind of like a 1000 year process of the Wave. The creation of a totally new reality obviously, in cosmic terms, takes that strange process that doesn't exist called time to manifest. But obviously, they are now talking about the breaking down process, the chaos.
A: Yes. Now you begin to see what "time" really is: cosmic processes of almost infinite duration. But do not be complacent because some of these processes can be rather "quick" and devastating from your perspective.
But in the New Testament, the 1,000 year period is preceded by the Campaign of Armageddon, which is well underway now.
Further to my earlier post above, it looks as though scientists have now found the other small exoplanets orbiting Barnard's Star judging from the attached article - see: MSN
4 tiny, Earth-like planets found circling 2nd-closest star system to us — and could be visited by future human generations
Story by Harry BakerA quartet of Earth-like worlds, each about 20% to 30% the size of our planet, circle one of our closest stellar neighbors, a new study reveals. The rocky alien worlds are close enough that future generations of humans may be able to visit them with futuristic rocket propulsion technology. However, it is unlikely that we will find any life there.
Astronomers have long suspected that there was at least one exoplanet orbiting Barnard's Star — a red dwarf with a mass around one-sixth that of the sun. At 5.97 light-years from Earth, it is the fourth-closest star to our solar system, after the three interconnected stars of the Alpha Centauri system. (Five potential planets have also been detected around the stars of Alpha Centauri, though not all of them have been confirmed yet.)
In the past, researchers assumed that Barnard's Star was circled by a gas giant exoplanet similar to Jupiter, because the star frequently wobbles closer to and then farther from Earth. This suggests that something is gravitationally tugging on the star, similar to how the moon pulls on our planet and causes Earth's tides. However, proving the existence of such a planet has remained elusive.
But in a new study, published March 11 in The Astrophysical Journal Letters, researchers say they have discovered that this wobbling is not caused by the pull of one gas giant but instead by the combined force exerted by four smaller, rocky worlds, each around four times more massive than Mercury.
"It's a really exciting find," study lead author Ritvik Basant, a doctoral candidate at the University of Chicago, said in a statement. "Barnard's Star is our cosmic neighbour, and yet we know so little about it."
But that doesn't mean this system will remain uninhabited forever. Although Barnard's Star is currently out of reach for humans using current rocket propulsion technology, future human generations might be able to travel to and colonize these newly discovered planets using new forms of rocket propulsion, such as nuclear fusion engines or light sails.
Finding hidden planets
Most exoplanets are discovered when they pass in front of their home star and block out some of the light shining toward Earth. However, in this case, researchers think we are looking at Barnard's Star from above, meaning its planets do not pass in between it and us. As a result, scientists often refer to our stellar neighbour as "great white whale" of planet hunting, researchers wrote.To get around this problem, the study team turned to MAROON-X, an instrument attached to the Gemini North telescope on Hawaii's Mauna Kea volcano. Over 112 nights during a three-year period, the telescope detected subtle shifts in the movement of Barnard's Star in order to "tease apart the number and masses of the planets that must be circling the star to have this effect," the researchers wrote.
Initially, MAROON-X identified only three planets. However, in another study, published in October 2024, researchers identified another planet using a similar device, dubbed ESPRESSO, at the Very Large Telescope in Chile. By combining these data with their own, the researchers could see this fourth planet for themselves.
Using data from both MAROON-X and ESPRESSO also challenges the idea that the researchers are being misled by anomalies in either data set, making them more confident in their results.
Red dwarfs are the most common star type in the universe, but most are too far from Earth for researchers to easily spot planets around them. However, the new results hint that small, rocky planets could be abundant around these miniature stars.
But for the study team, the most exciting thing about the new research was finding worlds that are so close to Earth.
"We found something that humanity will hopefully know forever," Jacob Bean, an astronomer at the University of Chicago who specializes in exoplanet systems, said in the statement. "That sense of discovery is incredible."
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So, I think we can say that this is a definite hit for the C's since they said:
"Orions created grays in 5 varieties, as cyber-genetic beings, and installed them on Zeta Reticuli 1, 2, 3, and 4, as well as on 2 planets orbiting Barnard's Star"
One question arises here though. The C's said that the Greys were time travellers when visiting (or dwelling on) our planet and are from our future.
Q: (L) Yes. Okay. How "long", and I put long in quotes, because we know, as you say, there is no time, but how long, as we measure it, have the Grays been interacting with our race? The Grays, not the Lizards, the Grays, the cybergenetic probes?"Orions created grays in 5 varieties, as cyber-genetic beings, and installed them on Zeta Reticuli 1, 2, 3, and 4, as well as on 2 planets orbiting Barnard's Star"
One question arises here though. The C's said that the Greys were time travellers when visiting (or dwelling on) our planet and are from our future.
A: No.
Q: (L) What do you mean, "No"?
A: Time travellers, therefore, "Time is ongoing."
Q: (L) Okay, recently I read a couple of books Jan gave me, "Knight in Shining Armor" and "Replay". Both of these books described time travel.
A: No, not finished with answer. Do you understand the gravity of last response?
Q: (L) They are time travellers, they can move forward and backward in time, they can play games with our heads... (T) They can set up the past to create a future they want. (D) They can organize things so that they can create the energy that they need... (L) They can also make things look good, make them feel good, make them seem good, they can make you have an idea one minute, and then the next minute, create some sort of situation that confirms that idea...
A: When you asked how long, of course it is totally unlimited, is it not?
Q: (L) That's not good. If they were to move back through space time and alter an event in our past, would that alteration in the past instantaneously alter our present as well?
A: Has over and over and over.
Q: (D) So they do it over and over and over, constantly? (L) So, at each...
A: You just are not yet aware, and have no idea of the ramifications!!!
Could this mean that the Greys have not have been created yet and thus are not currently residing on the two planets orbiting Barnard's Star? This in turn also raises questions about the Orions. Could some of them be 4th density humans from our future, a future in which mankind has become an intergalactic civilisation capable of populating other worlds? Will it be future 4D STS humans who help to create the cyber-genetic Greys? Afterall, the C's once said:
"A: Here comes a shocker for you... one day, in 4th density, it will be your descendants mission to carry on the tradition and assignment of seeding the 3rd density universe, once you have the adequate knowledge!!!"
Food for thought!
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