Session 25 January 2025
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axj
The Living Force
Sorry, just saw that this 1995 session was actually directly referenced in the current session.
The session from September last year had similar topics too:
Wandering Star
The Living Force
A: Don't think of it as an elevator such as those who are familiar with. Think of it as a high tech version of "Beam me up, Scottie." [laughter]
Thinking about it, it's possible that the reference is to the mode of transportation in the Star Trek movies, so the elevator would be a mode of transportation.
Following this train of thought, perhaps to transport a person instantly, one needs to use the fifth density or non-physical universe.
More than fifteen years ago I read an article by Billy Meier in which (a long time ago so my memory may not be completely accurate) Billy recounted a trip on a spaceship with his friends.
At one point they warned Billy that they were going to make an instant jump into space and told him that for that the ship was going to enter for an instant into (I don't remember what they called it) something like a non-physical space and that the computer was programmed so that the crew would not be aware of that space, since they experience a happiness, peace and communion that is torture for people to leave there and return to physical space.
I hope I have remembered it more or less well.
Billy is well studied in the transcripts, however I have remembered that detail in which perhaps the fifth density is used to travel.
"Beam me up, Scottie."
Thinking about it, it's possible that the reference is to the mode of transportation in the Star Trek movies, so the elevator would be a mode of transportation.
Following this train of thought, perhaps to transport a person instantly, one needs to use the fifth density or non-physical universe.
More than fifteen years ago I read an article by Billy Meier in which (a long time ago so my memory may not be completely accurate) Billy recounted a trip on a spaceship with his friends.
At one point they warned Billy that they were going to make an instant jump into space and told him that for that the ship was going to enter for an instant into (I don't remember what they called it) something like a non-physical space and that the computer was programmed so that the crew would not be aware of that space, since they experience a happiness, peace and communion that is torture for people to leave there and return to physical space.
I hope I have remembered it more or less well.
Billy is well studied in the transcripts, however I have remembered that detail in which perhaps the fifth density is used to travel.
"Beam me up, Scottie."
Wandering Star
The Living Force
Well I found the paragraph, how strange:
Then they make a great leap to one end of the universe, but this time, Ptaah and Semyase adjust the leap to a duration of 7 minutes instead of the normal form of only a fraction of a second, through some adjustments in the computer console. Billy watches over the Cupola as the sky turns gold and then a dazzling silver. That glow fills the Cupola and seems brighter than all the stars in the universe combined, but this does not hurt his eyes. At the same time, he experiences a feeling of being inside a timeless eternity. He feels full of love, peace and tranquility and would like to remain there, inside eternity, where there is no physical pain or sadness.
Semyase shakes Billy out of his deep contemplation and explains that she knows what eternity feels like.
She further explains that they all understand and feel the same way, but they cannot stay in eternity until they have evolved enough in consciousness through many lifetimes. Billy understands, but feels himself fading away, and Semyase holds him until he recovers enough to stand firmly on his own.
Ptaah tells him that they have already reached their destination, the edge of the DERN Universe.
Then they make a great leap to one end of the universe, but this time, Ptaah and Semyase adjust the leap to a duration of 7 minutes instead of the normal form of only a fraction of a second, through some adjustments in the computer console. Billy watches over the Cupola as the sky turns gold and then a dazzling silver. That glow fills the Cupola and seems brighter than all the stars in the universe combined, but this does not hurt his eyes. At the same time, he experiences a feeling of being inside a timeless eternity. He feels full of love, peace and tranquility and would like to remain there, inside eternity, where there is no physical pain or sadness.
Semyase shakes Billy out of his deep contemplation and explains that she knows what eternity feels like.
She further explains that they all understand and feel the same way, but they cannot stay in eternity until they have evolved enough in consciousness through many lifetimes. Billy understands, but feels himself fading away, and Semyase holds him until he recovers enough to stand firmly on his own.
Ptaah tells him that they have already reached their destination, the edge of the DERN Universe.
Ricardo
Dagobah Resident
From transcripts , anti-matter / anti-matter universe , relates to travel , since 5th is strictly ethereal , there's a correlation here:
( anti-matter @ transcripts )
Session 19 November 1994 :
(...)
Q: (L) I would like to know what is the specific mode of time travel?
A: Complex.
Q: (L) Well, just give us a clue here?
A: Transdimensional transfer utilizing electromagnetic adjustment of atomic structure to alter speed of time cycle convergence.
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Session 15 June 1995 :
(...)
Q: (L) Can we free associate about these gravity waves since no bookstores are open at this hour? Gravity seems to be a property of matter. Is that correct?
A: And....
Q: (L) And hmmmm....
A: And antimatter!
Q: (L) Is the gravity that is a property of antimatter "antigravity?" Or, is it just gravity on the other side, so to speak?
A: Binder.
Q: (L) Okay. Gravity is the binder. Is gravity the binder of matter?
A: And...
Q: (L) Is gravity a property of light?
A: Not the issue.
Q: (L) What is the issue? Can you help me out here, Frank?
A: Gravity binds all that is physical with all that is ethereal through unstable gravity waves!!!
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Session 17 January 1998 :
(...)
Q: (A) Now, I want to come back to physics. We have this paper from the French guy Chardin, who speaks about anti-gravity and relates it to a double structure of the universe; that anti-matter is just located, not in our universe, but in another universe...
{Sound of helicopter on tape for the next few seconds}
A: The two are exchangeable, much like an ion exchanger.
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Session 25 July 1998
(...)
Q: (L) Are you saying that we can unlock doors between matter and anti-matter universes? Is that what you are getting at here?
A: Maybe...
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( anti-matter @ transcripts )
Session 19 November 1994 :
(...)
Q: (L) I would like to know what is the specific mode of time travel?
A: Complex.
Q: (L) Well, just give us a clue here?
A: Transdimensional transfer utilizing electromagnetic adjustment of atomic structure to alter speed of time cycle convergence.
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Session 15 June 1995 :
(...)
Q: (L) Can we free associate about these gravity waves since no bookstores are open at this hour? Gravity seems to be a property of matter. Is that correct?
A: And....
Q: (L) And hmmmm....
A: And antimatter!
Q: (L) Is the gravity that is a property of antimatter "antigravity?" Or, is it just gravity on the other side, so to speak?
A: Binder.
Q: (L) Okay. Gravity is the binder. Is gravity the binder of matter?
A: And...
Q: (L) Is gravity a property of light?
A: Not the issue.
Q: (L) What is the issue? Can you help me out here, Frank?
A: Gravity binds all that is physical with all that is ethereal through unstable gravity waves!!!
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Session 17 January 1998 :
(...)
Q: (A) Now, I want to come back to physics. We have this paper from the French guy Chardin, who speaks about anti-gravity and relates it to a double structure of the universe; that anti-matter is just located, not in our universe, but in another universe...
{Sound of helicopter on tape for the next few seconds}
A: The two are exchangeable, much like an ion exchanger.
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Session 25 July 1998
(...)
Q: (L) Are you saying that we can unlock doors between matter and anti-matter universes? Is that what you are getting at here?
A: Maybe...
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The above might relate to an excerpt from the following session, where the Cs describe the difference between how STO and STS manage the incarnational cycle.
Session 5 August 2000
What you said above does not contradict what you asked below.
What you asked is about 5D beings experiencing interference by 4D. What you said above is about a 3D being going to 5D through technology, so that the 3D being is still a 3D being even though he is in 5D. It's similar to a 3D being finding himself in 4D in that he is still a 3D being even thought he is in 4D.
There is the second part of the question you quoted:
Transferring somebody from 3D to 5D bypassing the natural incarnational cycle is intereference with 5D in my opinion. I may be wrong, though.
You are assuming that going from 3D to 5D through technology is the same as interfering with a 5D being. That is not correct.
In this session, Laura said: "They're basically souping up the model." In an early excerpt, "souping up" also appears:
Session 14 September 2002
Session 14 September 2002
The context in this session was:
Bernardo GA
Jedi
On that last point I agree Altair. In fact, that is the style and manner of behavior of STS, that they do not accept or respect natural processes.
But I think Hlat is referring to something else and, if that is what I think he is referring to, I agree with him. I haven't found the contradiction either.
As I interpret it, not being able to abduct 5D souls and interfere with their processes, refers to those who are in the zone of contemplation and who have arrived there through the inner conduit of the silver thread, which opens when the physical body has ceased, thus providing a safe journey to an equally safe place for the soul. That is, to a specific zone of 5D.
That does not mean that to other zones of the 5D, 3D people can not be taken, for whatever.
And in that case we would be talking about 3D beings kidnapped and not 5D beings kidnapped.
It is in that sense that I do not find contradiction between those two answers of C.
Precisely, they do this with people who are incarnated and then have living, or active, or functional physical bodies. A very tempting booty for 4D STS, who do not mind violating the free will of the souls who legitimately occupy those bodies for their 3D life.
This comment about the apparent contradiction but which may not be, is because I am considering something very interesting raised by Innovative Soul:
benklerk
The Force is Strong With This One
I've been keeping a eye on this discussion. I've been trying to find information on this for a while now. But it seems that the information is a bit scarce on this. I know a lot of this information is outside of us. I'm sure if ETs and Cs release more information about this. It could violate free well or cause unnecessary fear about the full process. Instead of giving us a summary.
I've been trying to look into how our dense physical bodies need to adjust to be in 5D. I'm aware that most people have light bodies. But don't we need to go to upper 4D first even before we go to 5D? The big jump from 3D to 5D seems to much of a big jumper. As I have read that we are going to upper 4D as a pit stop before moving up to 5D.
Then comes the other question, do we need to dump our physicals, but this also doesn't make much sense as we go back to 5D anyway when we leave our bodies. Then it comes to the topic that people have been talking about with these high tech elevators. I know if this technology exists it will be way beyond out understanding. But it still has to come down to, how will our bodies adjust to the new very high levels of energy. Everything I have read is that without proper adjusting to these energy levels, our physical bodies will degrade at a very fast rate, so it has to be a very slow process. But as I understand, energy levels are slowly raising on the planet for a while now. But is it enough for 5D or upper 4D? If you look at other ETs around both 3D and 4D still have physical bodies. But the bodies are customed to the environment already. 5D and above have light bodies but can form a body but gets harder the higher D you go.
There is so little information around on how the process works in detail. I have also come across information that Earth a few other 3D worlds in our galaxy are also in the same process this time around.
To make it final. Yes, we are entering a very unique time. Earth is being watched by many higher dimensional beings. As they see this a very interesting period. All eyes are on Earth to see how we will get though this interesting and fun time as they see it. As from what I have learnt, the whole planet and solar system with everyone on them will be ascending as a whole. First time this is happening on a grand scale.
But I do still get the odd dream or 2. That I might be interacting with different ETs in the future with either a light body or physical. My last dream with a ET was a humanoid canine-wolf being, from what I remember talking was both vocal and telepathy.
I've been trying to look into how our dense physical bodies need to adjust to be in 5D. I'm aware that most people have light bodies. But don't we need to go to upper 4D first even before we go to 5D? The big jump from 3D to 5D seems to much of a big jumper. As I have read that we are going to upper 4D as a pit stop before moving up to 5D.
Then comes the other question, do we need to dump our physicals, but this also doesn't make much sense as we go back to 5D anyway when we leave our bodies. Then it comes to the topic that people have been talking about with these high tech elevators. I know if this technology exists it will be way beyond out understanding. But it still has to come down to, how will our bodies adjust to the new very high levels of energy. Everything I have read is that without proper adjusting to these energy levels, our physical bodies will degrade at a very fast rate, so it has to be a very slow process. But as I understand, energy levels are slowly raising on the planet for a while now. But is it enough for 5D or upper 4D? If you look at other ETs around both 3D and 4D still have physical bodies. But the bodies are customed to the environment already. 5D and above have light bodies but can form a body but gets harder the higher D you go.
There is so little information around on how the process works in detail. I have also come across information that Earth a few other 3D worlds in our galaxy are also in the same process this time around.
To make it final. Yes, we are entering a very unique time. Earth is being watched by many higher dimensional beings. As they see this a very interesting period. All eyes are on Earth to see how we will get though this interesting and fun time as they see it. As from what I have learnt, the whole planet and solar system with everyone on them will be ascending as a whole. First time this is happening on a grand scale.
But I do still get the odd dream or 2. That I might be interacting with different ETs in the future with either a light body or physical. My last dream with a ET was a humanoid canine-wolf being, from what I remember talking was both vocal and telepathy.
There's no adjustment in the natural way, when people die and go straight to 5D and the bodies are left behind.
Wandering Star
The Living Force
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