You are right, I changed it to light mode and the colors seems a bit different and less distracting compare to dark mode, not sure if the contrast makes the difference, but I prefer to read the forum in dark mode since it is easier to my eyes.
Session 26 April 2025
- Thread starter Laura
- Start date
Well that's weird. Can anyone explain that?
The only light colours in the text from my perspective were the pre-set links to other sites. Why some text should show up in colours other than black foxes me since in light mode, the text, apart from the aforesaid links, was all black on my screen, which is set for light mode. I can't readily explain why some of the text should show up in light colours when reading it in dark mode. Perhaps some clever computer geek can enlighten us
. Sorry if the switch in colour detracts from your reading of the posts. It is not intentional on my part.You make some very good points here and I endorse your thinking. I believe we seriously underestimate the capabilities of our Neolithic ancestors, often regarding them merely as stone age hunter gatherer savages.
My take on this is that the Atlantean survivors of the Deluge united together, at least to begin with, for the sake of survival. However, once they had regrouped in Anatolia, they started to separate again into different camps, perhaps reflecting the difference between the circle people cult and the pyramid people cult, although science also comes into the equation as we know that both the Great Pyramid at Giza and Stonehenge in England acted as power plants in their different ways, as could have later pyramids and stone circles.
My take on this is that the Atlantean survivors of the Deluge united together, at least to begin with, for the sake of survival. However, once they had regrouped in Anatolia, they started to separate again into different camps, perhaps reflecting the difference between the circle people cult and the pyramid people cult, although science also comes into the equation as we know that both the Great Pyramid at Giza and Stonehenge in England acted as power plants in their different ways, as could have later pyramids and stone circles.
Perhaps in some crude ways this may be reflected today in the split between the green power lobby and the fossil fuels lobby. As Laura has conjectured, the pyramid people and the stone circle people may also have reflected the differences between the two Atlantean philosophical groups Edgar Cayce labelled as the Sons of Belial and the Sons of the Law of One.
It is worth noting here that the main pyramid nations/civilisations of the ancient Middle East were the Sumerians/Mesopotamians and the Egyptians. Almost certainly these civilisations were dominated by the Orions, whether this was the Lizard beings:
It is worth noting here that the main pyramid nations/civilisations of the ancient Middle East were the Sumerians/Mesopotamians and the Egyptians. Almost certainly these civilisations were dominated by the Orions, whether this was the Lizard beings:
the Greys and perhaps the subterranean civilisation known as the Nation of the Third Eye (through the Sons of Horus maybe) as well as the mysterious Orion humanoids the C''s referred to as the STS Antareans, who inspired Hitler and the Nazis in our own age:
If the C's really meant Atlanteans rather than Antareans, this suggests that some Atlantean survivors (who could have been the Anunnaki of Sumerian lore) had at some stage come down from mountainous Anatolia into the fertile crescent to kick start the Sumerian civilisation, which featured, inter alia, the construction of large pyramidal ziggurats in their major cities. However, would such Atlanteans have still had the genetic engineering knowledge (as they evidently once had to create the beasts of Atlantis) to create a new race of Nephilim? I have my doubts, especially as the Nephilim have traditionally been used by the Orions as enforcers over mankind.
The C's also told us that the Sumerian civilisation was older than the Egyptian but this probably meant the Egyptian civilisation that later emerged under the Pharaohs and not the one that built the pyramids at Giza, which was in reality a remnant group of Atlanteans:
The C's also told us that the Sumerian civilisation was older than the Egyptian but this probably meant the Egyptian civilisation that later emerged under the Pharaohs and not the one that built the pyramids at Giza, which was in reality a remnant group of Atlanteans:
And:
It is curious that the C's did not mention Turkey or Anatolia here but then in October 1994 the German archaeologist Klaus Schmidt who discovered Goblekli Tepe had not yet begun his excavations of the site, which would only commence in 1995.
Thus, there is a whole chapter of human history that bridges the gap between the construction of Goblekli Tepe and the construction of the Giza Pyramids and Stonehenge and the subsequent rise of the Sumerian civilisation. The C's hinted at this once when responding to a comment by Laura about western civilisation starting with Mesopotamia:
Thus, there is a whole chapter of human history that bridges the gap between the construction of Goblekli Tepe and the construction of the Giza Pyramids and Stonehenge and the subsequent rise of the Sumerian civilisation. The C's hinted at this once when responding to a comment by Laura about western civilisation starting with Mesopotamia:
Since then Goblekli Tepe has been discovered and the old standard model of history has been irreversibly changed.
Although I have focused on developments in the Middle East up to now, as you correctly mentioned Britain had only become habitable again around 8000 or 9000 BC. You also state that some of the Stonehenge megaliths came from Scotland and Wales, which is correct since it has only recently been discovered that the large altar stone at Stonehenge came from the Orkneys in Scotland. I did a post on this fascinating discovery on the Alton Towers thread here: Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians. Quoting from the article I was commenting on:
Historically speaking, this represents a huge sea change in the archaeological model for Neolithic Britain.
I have previously mentioned how the Middle Eastern civilisations seemed to come under the sway or control of the Orions, especially the Lizards posing as gods, who apparently were not slow to act when they wished to enforce their will over the people, as indicated here by the C's:
And:
The same would appear to have been the case in England at some unknown point in time since STS forces also seemed to have attacked Stonehenge using EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) weapons according to the C's:
This answer suggest that the builders of Stonehenge or their (early) British descendants found themselves in conflict with STS forces, perhaps the Lizards or another Orion group. You will notice that the C's said that some of the missing stones were smashed by EM pulses, which seems to mirror what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah. But was this EM activity limited just to Salisbury Plain in western England? Perhaps not for archaeologists have not yet been able to explain the mystery of the ancient vitrified forts of Scotland:
These pre-historic ruins date back thousands of years. Many of them were subjected to a fire so intense that it practically turned the stone structure into glass, a process generally known as vitrification. In order to achieve vitrification, temperatures in excess of 1000 degrees Centigrate would need to be applied consistently over large areas of the wall, in close proximity for a significant period of time. Quoting from an article in Ancient Pages - (see: Shining Ones, Archimedes Death Ray And Mystery Of Vitrified Forts In Scotland - Ancient Pages):
These pre-historic ruins date back thousands of years. Many of them were subjected to a fire so intense that it practically turned the stone structure into glass, a process generally known as vitrification. In order to achieve vitrification, temperatures in excess of 1000 degrees Centigrate would need to be applied consistently over large areas of the wall, in close proximity for a significant period of time. Quoting from an article in Ancient Pages - (see: Shining Ones, Archimedes Death Ray And Mystery Of Vitrified Forts In Scotland - Ancient Pages):
Of course, conventional archaeologists dismiss the claims of ancient aliens being responsible for the vitrification of these forts by the use of death rays but the C's have said Stonehenge, Sodom and Gomorrah were subject to EMP attacks, so this raises the likelihood that these forts could similarly have been attacked by non-human or intra-terrestrial forces.
The American geologist Robert Schoch, who has dated the Sphinx to 9,000 BC, has proposed an alternative theory that could explain the existence of these vitrified forts not only in Scotland (where they number at least 70) but other parts of Northern and Central Europe including Ireland, Germany, Hungary and France and Turkey too. Quoting from the article Vitrified Forts of Scotland (see: Vitrified Forts of Scotland):
The American geologist Robert Schoch, who has dated the Sphinx to 9,000 BC, has proposed an alternative theory that could explain the existence of these vitrified forts not only in Scotland (where they number at least 70) but other parts of Northern and Central Europe including Ireland, Germany, Hungary and France and Turkey too. Quoting from the article Vitrified Forts of Scotland (see: Vitrified Forts of Scotland):
As the article concludes:
As to EMPs and shocks, it is interesting then that this subject was discussed at the end of the current session:
Given what has just happened in Russia with Ukrainian (NATO?) drone attacks on Russian airfields causing the destruction of many Russian bomber aircraft, it is not out of the question that we may see nuclear retaliation from Russia that in itself would create an EMP or shock wave. For everyone's sake, I hope that this will not be the case.
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Ricardo
The Living Force
Two comments / impressions, if i may , the Atlanteans are described as having fallen into an extreme self-serving path( Edgar Cayce et al) , so seems unlikely that belial(s) and The sons of the Law of One could ever be described as on friendly terms , unless one is to posit their outward naming would be only such .
( Session 22 August 1998 :
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Q: Was it two different groups? One, with the Stonehenge business, and one with the Pyramid business?
A: Offshoots of same group.
A: Were they antagonistic toward one another or were they friendly toward one another?
A: No, yes.
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So this quote seems to be referring to a group(s) of Atlantean descent STO aligned albeit with different distortions , do sts even consider friendships in a meaningful way ? , other impression , contemporary Archaeology and other "ologies" have long used crude artifacts to sell the "out of Africa Myth " , but as it is today , there's still human groups living in "Neolithic times" , like say in The Sentinel Islands , The Amazon Jungle and likely elsewhere as well.
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axj
The Living Force
After looking more into the research that Laura has already done on these topics, it seems that it may be more complex than that. For example, the Great Pyramid and Stonehenge were built by "offshoots of the same group" and they were friendly towards each other:
According to the C's, both the Great Pyramid and Stonehenge were built around 8000 BC, which was after the cataclysmic fall of Atlantis about two thousand years prior.
An important question is how the "Hyperborean" refugees (Plato's "Athenians") fit into this post-Atlantean world and what their relationship to the Atlantean refugees in Anatolia was. Maybe they initially unified to some degree? Or maybe their completely different orientations ("Sons of the Law of One" and "Sons of Belial") continued between the refugees from Atlantis and Hyperborea?
There are some clues that the original "circle or spiral people" (Hyperboreans/Athenians?) were present in both Siberia (which was apparently warmer before the cataclysmic pole shift) and in Ice Age Europe during Atlantean times:
So the origin of the name Malta may be in Siberia, plus the island itself seems to have had an Atlantean crystal power grid that left behind the famous "curt ruts" during the cataclysmic fall of Atlantis.
The C's say that the Maltese megalithic temples were built later by survivors, which puts them into either the Goebekli Tepe time period immediately after the fall of Atlantis, or possibly later:
What is not clear to me is the apparent contradiction between "both the Great Pyramid and Stonehenge were built around 8000 BC by offshoots of the same group and they were friendly towards each other" and "the animosity between the Atlanteans and Hyperboreans continued after the fall of Atlantis in Anatolia, Europe, etc."
Were the builders of the Great Pyramid and Stonehenge Atlantean survivors or Hyperborean survivors, or a mix of both? The construction date of around 8000 BC puts both structures in the post-Atlantean refugees period. Since the builders of both sites were friendly towards each other, it does not seem that they were a mix of "Sons of Belial" and "Sons of the Law of One" - or did that distinction lose its relevance in the post-cataclysmic world for a while?
Maybe when the cosmos cleaned house with the YD, the pathologicals of the pyramid people were to some extent wiped out and the majority of survivors were STO candidates? I think only then could the two 'peoples' could be generally friendly.
Another alternative comes from contemporary geopolitics, in which being friendly with another country can be nothing more than a shrewd power calculation.
Ricardo
The Living Force
(fwiiw ) Possibly another thread to add to this considerations is the mention of Hermes in the transcripts , which dates him to around :
Session 25 October 1994 :
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Q: (L) I would like to know the approximate years of the life of Hermes Trismegistus.
A: 5211 approx. (Years ago or B.C.?)
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Which is possibly not far of , date wise from Gobekli Tepe's construction , however this doesn't seem to elucidate on groups , and further , Pyr-a-mid(s) in Giza are described as both mind control by C's, among other functions , and initiatory by Ra , Hermes did a big no-no though.
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Session 16 October 1994 :
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Q: (L) Who was Hermes Trismegistus?
A: Traitor to court of Pharoah Rana.
Q: (L) Who is Pharoah Rana?
A: Egyptian leader of spiritual covenant.
Q: (L) In what way was Hermes a traitor?
A: Broke covenant of spiritual unity of all peoples in area now known as Middle East.
Q: (L) Who did Hermes betray?
A: Himself; was power hungry.
Q: (L) What acts did he do?
A: Broke covenant; he inspired divisions within ranks of Egyptians, Essenes, Aryans, and Persians et cetera.
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Session 25 October 1994 :
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Q: (L) I would like to know the approximate years of the life of Hermes Trismegistus.
A: 5211 approx. (Years ago or B.C.?)
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Which is possibly not far of , date wise from Gobekli Tepe's construction , however this doesn't seem to elucidate on groups , and further , Pyr-a-mid(s) in Giza are described as both mind control by C's, among other functions , and initiatory by Ra , Hermes did a big no-no though.
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Session 16 October 1994 :
(...)
Q: (L) Who was Hermes Trismegistus?
A: Traitor to court of Pharoah Rana.
Q: (L) Who is Pharoah Rana?
A: Egyptian leader of spiritual covenant.
Q: (L) In what way was Hermes a traitor?
A: Broke covenant of spiritual unity of all peoples in area now known as Middle East.
Q: (L) Who did Hermes betray?
A: Himself; was power hungry.
Q: (L) What acts did he do?
A: Broke covenant; he inspired divisions within ranks of Egyptians, Essenes, Aryans, and Persians et cetera.
(...)
axj
The Living Force
Goebekli Tepe was constructed around 9000 BC, which is 4000 years prior.
I am very glad you posted Laura's comments on the Atlantean and post Atlantean world in response to my previous post as they are highly relevant here. It is worth noting that Laura made these comments many years ago, at a time when Goblekli Tepe and its associated sites were hardly known of, if at all. The discovery of Goblekli Tepe has been a complete game changer. It has upset all the earlier archaeological assumptions about the rise of the earliest civilisations in the Fertile Crescent or Mesopotamia, which currently date to 6,000 BC at the very earliest (see: Sumer - Wikipedia), which is more than 4,000 years after the building of Goblekli Tepe.
Where you say that "Since the builders of both sites were friendly towards each other, it does not seem that they were a mix of "Sons of Belial" and "Sons of the Law of One" - or did that distinction lose its relevance in the post-cataclysmic world for a while?", I tend to think that faced with a catastrophe of the magnitude of the Deluge, even opposing factions can work together when basic survival is the first and foremost consideration.
Laura makes a good point that the original builders of the Great Pyramid were clearly a different group from the people that lived in Egypt during the age of the pharaohs. Indeed, it is possible that the Great Pyramid may not have been in operation as a power plant for that long. Although I am not a fan of the work of Sumerian researcher Alexander Sitchin, he did propose that the Great Pyramid had been the object of a conflict involving the Anunnaki (reptilian?) god Prince Marduk in what he described as the Pyramid Wars, wars that were fought between different, competing alien factions - see: Chapter 8: The Pyramid Wars.
I am of the view that many of the ancient Egyptian and Mesopotamian gods were real, extra-terrestrial beings, which is to some extent borne out by the C's telling us that later gods such as Yahweh and Baal etc, were merely fronts for the Lizard beings. How long after the construction of Goblekli Tepe these gods made their presence felt to the descendants of the Atlantean survivors is open to conjecture but, as I pointed out in my earlier post, they certainly seemed prepared to enforce their will on men when destroying the ancient cities of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Plain of Shinar. The discovery of a reptilian looking statuette in Kuwait that dates back to 5,000 BC and is reminiscent of similar statues found all over ancient Mesopotamia seems to suggest that the reptilians were already acknowledged as deity figures by the people of this region at least 7,000 years ago.
Were the builders of the Great Pyramid good guys or the bad guys? One disturbing extract from the transcripts suggests that the builders may have been in league with the STS reptilians:
Now the Brotherhood of the Serpent is supposed to be the oldest secret society of them all. If it involved a group of Atlantean survivors who built the Great Pyramid complex at Giza, this begs the question whether the Atlantean group Edgar Cayce called the Sons of the Law of One may have been in league with the reptilians before the final destruction of Atlantis and whether they resumed their relationship with the reptilians at some stage after the Deluge. The C's told us that the Lizards had direct contact with the Atlanteans for a period of 1,000 years, Could this be the period in which the Brotherhood of the Serpent originally emerged?
You will note that Coatzlmundi was a deity of the Lizards that came to be worshipped by the Atlanteans and their descendants. So did some of the Atlantean survivors at Goblekli Tepe maintain the worship of Coatzlmundi and, if so, did this cult morph into the Brotherhood of the Serpent?
In Michael BC's excellent thread on Goblekli Tepe, he noted that there may have been a dark sinister influence at work at the site, where human sacrifice may have been carried out. Could this be early evidence of the Brotherhood of the Serpent at work I wonder? Again, I would point to the stone head found at Goblekli Tepe with a serpent slithering up the back of the head as possible evidence for the presence of the Brotherhood of the Serpent:
In Michael BC's excellent thread on Goblekli Tepe, he noted that there may have been a dark sinister influence at work at the site, where human sacrifice may have been carried out. Could this be early evidence of the Brotherhood of the Serpent at work I wonder? Again, I would point to the stone head found at Goblekli Tepe with a serpent slithering up the back of the head as possible evidence for the presence of the Brotherhood of the Serpent:
In a similar vein, it is disturbing to note that one of the purposes for which the cosmic energy captured by the Great Pyramid was used for was mind control:
Mind control was an STS activity that the Atlanteans seemed to have practised pre-Deluge:
It looks as though, therefore, the Atlantean survivors at Giza continued this STS practice, which doesn't paint them in a good light unless I am missing something. As to the C's reference to "drone workers", this always puts me in mind of the Borg drones in Star Trek
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Well, if the group involved with building the Giza pyramid complex (which is also connected to the Rosteem of Rostau/Giza and by extension to the modern day Rosicrucians) were linked with the Lizards, what of the builders of Stonehenge?
As I noted in my previous post, Stonehenge seems to have come under direct attack from extra-terrestrial or intra-terrestrial forces too. Given what the C's said below about the builders of Stonehenge, they do not appear to have owed any allegiance to specific deities, reptilian or otherwise:
As I noted in my previous post, Stonehenge seems to have come under direct attack from extra-terrestrial or intra-terrestrial forces too. Given what the C's said below about the builders of Stonehenge, they do not appear to have owed any allegiance to specific deities, reptilian or otherwise:
As I have noted in previous posts, the ancient city of Harran, the home of the ancient Sabian star gazers and the biblical Abraham, is to be found today in the Şanlıurfa Province of Turkey, a province in which the site of Goblekli Tepe is also located. This makes me wonder if the roots of the Sabians (who also seemed to have had a colony at Giza) lay with Goblekli Tepe. The fact that they seemed to have been star worshippers, also makes me wonder whether they had a direct connection with the star worshipping builders of Stonehenge?
But what happened to the people who built Stonehenge? I watched a fascinating British TV documentary on Stonehenge in which they discussed the DNA evidence that has been extracted from skeletons buried in the Salisbury Plain area over the millennia (not many of which survive due to the high acidity of the local soil). The truth seems to be that the builders completely dies out and were replaced by new migrants who arrived from continental Europe, to the extent that their DNA does not survive in today's indigenous population. So what happened to them? Could they have been Laura's mysterious Hyperboreans, the Sons of the North Wind. Where they also Plato's Athenians who fought against the evil Empire of Atlantis?
As I said in my last post, the builders of Stonehenge may well have been part of a pan-British Islands Neolithic society. As a follow up to what was said about this relatively sophisticated society, new evidence has recently come to light, which pushes the age of this society back to at least 8,500 BC (i.e., 500 years before the C's said Stonehenge was built).
But what happened to the people who built Stonehenge? I watched a fascinating British TV documentary on Stonehenge in which they discussed the DNA evidence that has been extracted from skeletons buried in the Salisbury Plain area over the millennia (not many of which survive due to the high acidity of the local soil). The truth seems to be that the builders completely dies out and were replaced by new migrants who arrived from continental Europe, to the extent that their DNA does not survive in today's indigenous population. So what happened to them? Could they have been Laura's mysterious Hyperboreans, the Sons of the North Wind. Where they also Plato's Athenians who fought against the evil Empire of Atlantis?
As I said in my last post, the builders of Stonehenge may well have been part of a pan-British Islands Neolithic society. As a follow up to what was said about this relatively sophisticated society, new evidence has recently come to light, which pushes the age of this society back to at least 8,500 BC (i.e., 500 years before the C's said Stonehenge was built).
Archaeologists unearthed a 10,500-year-old circular structure that they claim housed hunter-gatherers, making it Britain’s oldest dwelling
See: MSN
A Circular Clue Left By Britain’s First Settlers
Star Carr’s roundhouse, dated to 8,500 BC, marks Britain’s earliest known domestic footprint. This structure housed hunter-gatherers who were rooted in the area and had a deeper connection to the land.
Dr Nicky Milner, an archaeologist from the University of York, led the excavation at Star Carr. The research was a collaboration between the Universities of York, Manchester, UCL, and Cambridge, supported by funding from the British Academy, the McDonald Institute in Cambridge, and the Vale of Pickering Research Trust.
Dr Milner described the experience as akin to time travel, given the site’s remarkable preservation. The excavation revealed not only the 10,500-year-old dwelling but also Europe’s earliest known carpentry and ritual artifacts, including red deer antler headdresses.
Stonehenge draws the crowds, sure, but it’s a rookie compared to this circular hut built thousands of years earlier. With thatched reeds, timber posts, and hearth-centered life, Star Carr’s home redefines Britain’s prehistoric identity. “It’s sensational,” said Dr Nicky Milner, University of York’s senior archaeologist, in 2010.
Dr Nicky Milner, an archaeologist from the University of York, led the excavation at Star Carr. The research was a collaboration between the Universities of York, Manchester, UCL, and Cambridge, supported by funding from the British Academy, the McDonald Institute in Cambridge, and the Vale of Pickering Research Trust.
Dr Milner described the experience as akin to time travel, given the site’s remarkable preservation. The excavation revealed not only the 10,500-year-old dwelling but also Europe’s earliest known carpentry and ritual artifacts, including red deer antler headdresses.
Stonehenge draws the crowds, sure, but it’s a rookie compared to this circular hut built thousands of years earlier. With thatched reeds, timber posts, and hearth-centered life, Star Carr’s home redefines Britain’s prehistoric identity. “It’s sensational,” said Dr Nicky Milner, University of York’s senior archaeologist, in 2010.
Britain’s First Home Was Lakeside Real Estate
Prime location? Absolutely. The ancient house sat beside a now-vanished lake in North Yorkshire. Back then, it stood next to an archaic lake and near the remains of a wooden quayside. These waters likely provided families here with a fresh supply of fish and water.
The Star Carr Was Unique
An intriguing aspect of this dwelling is the evidence of long-term habitation. While Mesolithic hunter-gatherers were often thought to be highly nomadic, Star Carr was occupied for 200 to 500 years, indicating a semi-permanent settlement. This challenges previous assumptions about early mobility.
Eighteen Timber Posts Formed A Perfect Circle Of Survival
The house’s skeleton—eighteen timber posts in a tight ring—measured just 3.5 meters across. Small? Sure. But intentional. That circle was engineered for warmth, strength, and symmetry. This was the home base for a grounded, resourceful community.
The Thatched Roof That Preceded History
The exact materials and shape of the roof of the Star Carr house remain uncertain, but archaeologists suggest it was likely made from hides, thatch, turf, or bark. Given the structure’s circular shape, the roof may have been conical (teepee-like) or rounded (wigwam-like).
Sunken Floor As A Thermal Design
The floor sat lower than ground level, making it the perfect design for trapping heat. Overhead, a thatched or hide-covered roof likely rested on wooden beams. Add moss, reeds, or grass flooring, and you’ve got the Stone Age version of home insulation.
Why Did They Need Insulation In The First Place?
Insulation was vital for survival in Mesolithic Britain because the climate was cold and damp, especially near Lake Flixton. After the last Ice Age, temperatures continued to fluctuate, and early humans required methods to stay warm and protect themselves from harsh weather conditions.
Insulation Was Key
Insulation also played a role in comfort and efficiency. It helped create a stable indoor environment. Warmth allowed residents to cook, craft tools, and store food without extreme temperature shifts affecting their resources. Over time, early humans refined their building techniques, making settlements more durable and sustainable.
The Entire Design Screams Evolution
The design screams evolution to adapt to seasonal needs or available resources. The walls being supported by timber posts and the roof being secured are not coincidences. If we look at how we build homes today, this is really not far-fetched. But before Star Carr…
The Howick House Held The Record As Britain’s Oldest
Northumberland’s Howick House reigned as Britain’s oldest until Star Carr’s discovery stole the spotlight. Built around 7600 BC, this 6-meter-wide circular shelter featured sturdy post holes and a sunken floor. For 100 years, it served as a rare permanent base for Mesolithic families.
Howick’s Life Was Anything But Temporary
Inside, the Howick house offered warmth and flavour — hearths still held charcoal, nutshells, and bone. Researchers believe birch poles and pine beams supported a conical roof draped in turf and reed thatch. Add coastal food, fresh water, and flint nearby. That’s real, rooted living.
Now, Let’s Circle Back To Ancient British Carpentry At Star Carr
The wooden platform found at Star Carr was constructed using worked timbers, demonstrating advanced woodworking techniques for the time. The platform was built near the edge of Lake Flixton, likely serving as a stable surface for activities such as butchering animals, crafting tools, or even ritual practices.
How Did They Know This?
The presence of cut marks and shapes on the wood suggests that early Mesolithic people were deliberately modifying timber rather than simply using fallen branches or natural materials. This discovery challenges previous assumptions that hunter-gatherers lacked sophisticated construction skills.
The Red Deer Antler Headdresses
The red deer antlers headdresses found at Star Carr are among the most fascinating artifacts from Mesolithic Britain. These modified deer skulls, known as frontlets, were likely worn by early hunter-gatherers for multiple roles.
The Deer Antler Headdresses Features
They were crafted from the skulls of male red deer, with the antlers still attached, and carefully altered to fit securely on the wearer’s head. The lower jaw and cranial bones were removed, and the frontal bone was perforated, possibly to allow for straps or cords to fasten them.
Theories On Their Uses Abound
First, archaeologists theorize that these frontlets were hunting disguises, allowing hunters to blend into their environment while stalking prey. Another possibility is that they were worn during ritual dances or shamanic ceremonies. The shaping of the antlers suggests careful craftsmanship, with a more profound cultural significance beyond simple utility.
How They Got Them Into Shape
The researchers speculated that damp clay was packed inside the skull and placed in embers to facilitate bone modification. A total of 24 frontlets have been uncovered at Star Carr, accounting for approximately 90% of all known examples from early prehistoric Europe.
Technology And Expertise To The Rescue
Archaeologists have used laser scanning to study the fine details. They’ve been able to identify intricate cut marks that provide insight into Mesolithic tool usage. Experimental archaeology has also been employed to reconstruct the manufacturing process of these objects, confirming the complexity of their design.
There’s More
Among the findings, they also found barbed points. Nearly 200 projectile points made from red deer antlers were unearthed at the site. These barbed points were likely used for hunting and fishing, either as spear tips or harpoon heads.
Barbed Points Gave Hunters An Edge
These tools allow hunters to increase their accuracy when targeting animals in the dense wetlands surrounding Lake Flixton. This collection represents 97% of all known examples in the UK, further highlighting Star Carr’s significance as a centre for Mesolithic innovation.
Next Up, Animal Remains
The site contained a remarkable range of animal bones, including those from red deer, roe deer, wild boar, elk, aurochs (wild cattle), birds, beavers, pine martens, hedgehogs, hares, and badgers. Particularly intriguing was the discovery of wolf remains, which, upon closer examination, were identified as domesticated dogs.
Flint Tools And Engraved Shale Pendant
The excavation yielded a vast collection of flint tools and wooden artifacts. Microliths—small, sharp stone blades—were used as weapons or composite tools. Then, a delicate shale pendant featuring intricate engravings was also discovered at the site. The markings on the pendant resemble geometric patterns.
Theories On Their Uses Abound
First, archaeologists theorize that these frontlets were hunting disguises, allowing hunters to blend into their environment while stalking prey. Another possibility is that they were worn during ritual dances or shamanic ceremonies. The shaping of the antlers suggests careful craftsmanship, with a more profound cultural significance beyond simple utility.
How They Got Them Into Shape
The researchers speculated that damp clay was packed inside the skull and placed in embers to facilitate bone modification. A total of 24 frontlets have been uncovered at Star Carr, accounting for approximately 90% of all known examples from early prehistoric Europe.
Technology And Expertise To The Rescue
Archaeologists have used laser scanning to study the fine details. They’ve been able to identify intricate cut marks that provide insight into Mesolithic tool usage. Experimental archaeology has also been employed to reconstruct the manufacturing process of these objects, confirming the complexity of their design.
There’s More
Among the findings, they also found barbed points. Nearly 200 projectile points made from red deer antlers were unearthed at the site. These barbed points were likely used for hunting and fishing, either as spear tips or harpoon heads.
Barbed Points Gave Hunters An Edge
These tools allow hunters to increase their accuracy when targeting animals in the dense wetlands surrounding Lake Flixton. This collection represents 97% of all known examples in the UK, further highlighting Star Carr’s significance as a centre for Mesolithic innovation.
Next Up, Animal Remains
The site contained a remarkable range of animal bones, including those from red deer, roe deer, wild boar, elk, aurochs (wild cattle), birds, beavers, pine martens, hedgehogs, hares, and badgers. Particularly intriguing was the discovery of wolf remains, which, upon closer examination, were identified as domesticated dogs.
Flint Tools And Engraved Shale Pendant
The excavation yielded a vast collection of flint tools and wooden artifacts. Microliths—small, sharp stone blades—were used as weapons or composite tools. Then, a delicate shale pendant featuring intricate engravings was also discovered at the site. The markings on the pendant resemble geometric patterns.
Organic Preservation
Thanks to the waterlogged peat at Star Carr, archaeologists recovered not only the structure but also a rare haul of organic materials that are seldom preserved at other sites. Their pristine condition gave researchers an unprecedented look into ancient crafting techniques. It’s as if this site waited to be found.
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So by any account, this is a very important archaeological discovery that has been miraculously preserved in waterlogged peat. It also seems likely that the people who built this roundhouse were from the same group who first settled post ice-age Britain and would eventually go on to build Stonehenge. The question I would ask though is did they travel northwards from the south coast of England to settle in Yorkshire or did they migrate southwards from Scotland, either from the Western Isles like the island of Skye or from the Orkneys, where the ancient stone circle called the Ring of Brodgar is located?
Although today the south coast of England is usually appreciably warmer than the north of Scotland, rather counterintuitively I think these stone age settlers may have migrated southwards from Scotland into England, building their megalithic structures as they went. The reason for this is that the Western Isles of Scotland, such as the Hebrides even today have a cool temperate climate that is remarkably mild and steady for such a northerly latitude due to the influence of the North Atlantic Current. Indeed, in ancient times they enjoyed a sub-tropical climate. In comparison, parts of northern England at that time may still have been glacial. As with the Orkneys, the Hebrides also have their well preserved stone circles:
The Callanish Stones, dating from about 2900 BC [MJF: could they be much older?], are the finest example of a stone circle in Scotland, the 13 primary monoliths of between one and five metres high creating a circle about 13 metres (43 ft) in diameter.
Again I can discern a striking similarity with the stone circles discovered at Goblekli Tepe with a tall flat stone located at the centre just like the tall T pillars found at Goblekli Tepe.
So, was this stone circle built by the descendants of those who had built the stone circles at Goblekli Tepe?
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To me it seems that Karahan Tepe (close to Goebekli Tepe and similar age) is quite clearly a 'dark' place. As I mentioned before, Graham Hancock reported a feeling of dread there. And even looking at that place, with the head sticking out of bedrock and channels carved into the rock (to collect blood?), it looks like a creepy place. There are also other sites close to Goebekli Tepe from the same time period, some of them apparently even larger.
It does look like there were some dark groups present in Anatolia after the cataclysm, probably Atlantean survivors. What is less clear is whether the Hyperboreans were present there as well and what their relationship to the Atlantean refugees was.
Reading your post, I recalled some parallels between Cherokee and Egyptian myths that Graham Hancock mentioned in his new book, "America Before." As Hancock himself said, this relationship does not have to mean actual physical contact or communication between cultures, but is rather evidence of a highly advanced global culture of great antiquity. So, who were those who ruled over North and South America (often in such a cruel fashion)? Those cultures seem to have vanished due to climate change in many cases. Climate change was helped along by the encrochament of the Europeans via war and disease. Not much of a conflict, more like a slapdown.
I drilled down in a bit in ChatGPT about the Osiris - Cherokee myth similarities"
- In America Before (2019) — one of his more recent books focused specifically on North America — Hancock discusses flood myths, civilizing beings, cosmic cycles, and astronomical knowledge among Native American cultures.
- He references the Cherokee Flood Myth and origin stories as parallels to the global flood myth pattern, which he links to the Egyptian myth of the primordial waters (Nun) and the first land (Benben).
- He points out that Native American oral traditions (including Cherokee) preserve detailed cosmological knowledge not dissimilar to Egyptian star-lore.
A. The Flood Myth Parallel
- Cherokee: The great flood that destroyed an earlier world and forced humanity to restart and rebuild — sometimes linked to the Great Spirit's cleansing of the earth.
- Egypt: The waters of Nun, the primordial chaotic ocean, out of which the first land and order were established — the flood-like destruction that preceded order.
- Hancock sees both as memory of a cataclysm (likely the Younger Dryas comet impact, ~12,800 years ago), encoded in myth.
B. The Bird or Sky Messenger
- Cherokee: In creation myths, a bird (often a water bird or buzzard) helps shape the earth, creating land from the watery world.
- Egypt: The Bennu bird (phoenix-like), a messenger of renewal and rebirth, linked to the sun and the cycle of life from the chaos of Nun.
- Hancock draws on comparative mythology here — both cultures see a bird acting as a creative agent after cosmic chaos.
C. Cosmic Cycles / Orion
- Hancock notes that Cherokee star lore includes references to:
- Orion’s Belt, known in various traditions as the “three hunters” or three brothers.
- Cycles of death and rebirth connected to the stars.
- In Egypt, Orion (Osiris) is central to myth of resurrection and cosmic order.
- Hancock suggests that both encode an ancient, possibly lost astronomical tradition tied to Orion and cosmic rebirth.
D. Moral Renewal after Catastrophe
- Cherokee myths emphasize that after the flood, only the virtuous survived, and a new moral order was established.
- In Egyptian myth, Osiris is murdered, and after chaos, order (Ma'at) is re-established, with moral teachings given to the people.
- Hancock proposes this is a universal mythic pattern potentially derived from survivors of a real global cataclysm who traveled and spread teachings.
- America Before (2019) — this is the best source for Hancock’s Cherokee references. He particularly discusses:
- Flood myths of the Cherokee and other North American tribes.
- The cultural memory of a lost advanced people.
- Parallels between Native cosmology and Egyptian cosmic myth.
- Various podcast interviews post-2019 — in conversations on shows like Joe Rogan Experience, Hancock mentions that Cherokee cosmology, like many Native traditions, contains elements that match the “universal pattern” he attributes to a global lost civilization:
- Flood and cosmic rebirth
- Astronomical lore (Orion, Pleiades)
- Sky messengers
- Moral teachings post-cataclysm
Important Caveats
Hancock does not claim that Egyptians and Cherokee had direct cultural contact.
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