Session 30 January 2021

primeaddict

Jedi Master
FOTCM Member
Hello Kay Kim,
I take your point and agree that some interactions can certainly be STS in nature that is why you need to look at all the circumstances surrounding such occurences. Indeed, that is why the Church is so careful when investigating these apparitions as they know how satanic forces can trick well meaning and devout people. Just ask an exorcist. They will tell you that the devil knows his scripture better than any theologian or biblical expert. The point I was really making is that you need to look at what is said and happens in the interaction. If it was an STS being then you need to ask what benefit or advantage they would gain by healing or helping someone who hadn't necessarily asked for it in the first place. I can't myself see any benefit to STS in making a terminally sick nun well again, particularly if she is going to be spending the rest of her life praying against the forces of evil and doing good in the world. Similarly, where is the gain in turning a man who was angry and twisted to the point where he wanted to kill somebody into a calm, peaceful and nice human being. In fact, this particular individual would often go on the radio in the years following to tell of his experience for the benefit of others. If some STO being (6th density or otherwise) was impersonating the Virgin Mary to do a good act, this would be deceptive in itself and, therefore, abridging free will. One has to assume honesty on the part of STO beings as it goes with their STO nature.
Quite simply to convince people to stay as sheeple to a Savior and to His Father.
VM's messages are simply to get people return to the flock through repentance and resume worshiping of the big G. If the C's were to use this method of communication I think the message would be "seek knowledge to protect yourself form the mass deception of the coming turmoil".

VM's messages benefit the STS brainwashing of stay obedient to your overlord. The C's message is: liberate yourself through ever increasing knowledge.
 

WIN 52

The Living Force
A: It is very bad juju for the forces of darkness to take over against the free will of the majority.
What does that mean? Are these forces made up of in part 4D entities or merely 3D earthlings? What will be the bad juju for 4D involved in this?

During my adventures, the opportunity arose to meet face to face with a 4D entity that did take over the free will of many 3D people. Possibly Atlantean. It had them (souls) imprisoned. It is clear that I was not in a 3D body during the confrontation. That ended with the termination of a 4D being. Sent to 5D and possible destruction. For that my big "I" stepped in. My 4D body. It's likely not possible for a 3D being to terminate a 4D being in that manner.

I am curious about how this bad juju will play out, should there be 4D beings involved. My guess is that there are. What skin do they have to lose?
 

primeaddict

Jedi Master
FOTCM Member
A: It is very bad juju for the forces of darkness to take over against the free will of the majority.

Just like a crop failure when it does not rain, the ground is dry and the sun keeps baking the land. The creative energy does not feed the deep states plans. Their plans will start out green and strong but just when they think everything will go their way, things start to shrivel and die. I suspect that the 'green-screw-deal' will start to shrivel just when the price of gas and electricity triples and the food shortages begin. That is when they will find out just how few people support their agenda.
 

Charade

Jedi Master
FOTCM Member
ANT22 said:

"And the masses did not choose to accept the totalitarian dominance. They know the election was a fraud and their president was stolen from them. How are the PTB going to manipulate the people into accepting totalitarianism if they don't even accept the PTB's chosen dictator? With Biden in the office instead of Trump the show may be more interesting to watch - and it may actually be shorter with things going downhill quicker."

Hmmm, seeing a couple subliminals on super bowl 55 is certainly massaging some in the direction of centralization which seems to be where they like to take us. Do subliminals register in our subconscious, l wonder what kind of retention or residual remains after viewing them, if any. Corporations seem to spend hefty amounts embedding them in their advertisements.

Bruce Springsteen's Jeep commercial using the phrase, "The Reunited states of America" made my jaw drop, not to mention the red star at the center of our nation where we're all supposed to come together as one and heal the divide. Using the country church (legacy) theme was way over the top for me. Anyway the following:


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Red star. The five-pointed red star is a symbol of communism as well as broader socialism in general. The red star was a revolutionary symbol after the October Revolution and following civil war in Russia. ... Today, the red star is used by many socialist and communist parties and organizations across the world.
Bummer the Boss sells out. Thanks for pointing the symbolism out... didn’t watch the Super Bowl propaganda.
 

iamthatis

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
Hi Iamthis.

Charidis was commenting on something I mentioned in earlier comments above. At your suggestion, I reread the Kantek thread. To me it was not clear cut.

Well, of course, there was also Mars, which we know from the transcripts the Atlanteans colonised at some stage. What I can't work out from the timescale though was whether Mars had been colonised by the Atlanteans before the destruction of Kantek or whether it was after the destruction. I favour the latter because if the Kantekkians were more advanced than the earlier (pre-Kantekkian) Atlanteans, they most likely would have got there first. That leads to the question, when was the civilisation on Mars destroyed? Has anyone ever answered that?

I don't think we can expect much more than some reasoned speculation about the hidden history of an entire planet that no longer exists. Unless, of course, somebody stumbles on the magic key to the Akashic Records and becomes a kind of benevolent cosmic search engine.

The fact that the Kantekkians had the Merkabah device (sounds like a TDRM), which allowed for the transmat of some of them to Earth, suggests that they were a fairly advanced civilisation. However, the fact they had to rely on the greys to transport them to Earth suggests they may not have been a spacefaring civilisation like the Atlanteans were. That being said, I doubt even in the world of Star Trek you could transport hundreds of millions of people in just a week. It would take tens of thousands of spacecraft (the greys had 4D technology) to do this.

We've learned from the C's that 4D STS exists outside of linear time. So if we suspend notions of linear time, then moving hundreds of millions of people in "just a week" is entirely possible - even without tens of thousands of spacecraft.
 

Metrist

Dagobah Resident
I think the mass of humanity is consistent in our ability to cooperate, work together, and be flexible in our endeavors. It comes from our nature - this ability.

So, we never change in that regard. And so, we are empire in its natural state - just being ourselves. So this notion of TPTB being influential in negative ways against our nature is something to see, and if you give their spectacles too much credit, and distracted by it too long, you tend to overlook yourself and your nature. But it is always operating throughout, but TPTB are like a circus that isn't a part of the human community, and wants to extract all it can from it by conducting these distractions.
They are not essential, but we welcome some of it as it adds to our diversity, which makes our nature more empirical.
And so, they probably want to see how far they can take their spectacles - but don't seem to understand - as they guage us we guage them. And what we do is out of necessity, and we will do it ongoing, but their motives are without grounding, and will tire and end in destruction or fizzle into non-existance.
So, we tend to tolerate, even though it is negative, but we also persevere as it is what we do, and they are decadent and in a state of turmoil - perhaps looking for purpose in simple things.
 

Neil

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
Yeah, I've wondered if "forces of darkness" was a reference to 4D aliens going all-in or if they have kind of cut loose the PTB and are letting them hit every branch on the idiot tree on the way down. "Forces of darkness" seems like a colorful name for just the PTB, but it could be either scenario. The "titanic struggle taking place behind the scenes in 4D" mentioned in the previous session, which seemed to have the presidential election as one of its outward manifestations, insinuates that the Biden administration is being supported at some level by 4D STS. 4D STS won this battle, but only by employing a risky strategy it seems.

As far as freewill is concerned, here is what Ra actually had to say about it, with the 9th question addressing the crux of the matter. All of these questions are oriented towards a 4D STS alien invasion scenario, however the laws that apply to 4D STS should also be applicable to 3D STS.
session810131 said:
I would like to ask, considering the free will distortion of the Law of One, how can the Guardians quarantine the Earth? Is this quarantine within the free will distortion?

Ra: I am Ra. The Guardians guard the free will distortion of the mind/body/spirit complexes of third density on this planetary sphere. The events which require activation of quarantine were interfering with the free will distortion of mind/body/spirit complexes.

16.2 Questioner: I may be wrong, but it seems to me that it would be the free will of, say the Orion group, to interfere. How is this balanced against the other concept you just gave?

Ra: I am Ra. The balancing is from dimension to dimension. The attempts of the so-called Crusaders to interfere with free will are acceptable upon the dimension of their understanding. However, the mind/body/spirit complexes of this dimension you call third form a dimension of free will which is not able to, shall we say, recognize in full, the distortions towards manipulation. Thus, in order to balance the dimensional variances in vibration, a quarantine was set up, this being a balancing situation whereby the free will of the Orion group is not stopped but given a challenge. Meanwhile, the third-density group is not hindered from free choice.

16.3 Questioner: Could these windows that occur… let the Orion group come through once in a while… does this have anything to do with this free will distortion?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

16.4 Questioner: Could you tell me how that works?

Ra: I am Ra. The closest analogy would be a random number generator within certain limits.

16.5 Questioner: What is the source of this random number generator? Is it created by the Guardians to balance their guarding? Or is it a source other than the Guardians?

Ra: I am Ra. All sources are one. However, we understand your query. The window phenomenon is an other-self phenomenon from the Guardians. It operates from the dimensions beyond space/time in what you may call the area of intelligent energy. Like your cycles, such balancing, such rhythms are as a clock striking. In the case of the windows, no entities have the clock. Therefore, it seems random. It is not random in the dimension which produces this balance. That is why we stated the analogy was within certain limits.

16.6 Questioner: Then this window balancing prevents the Guardians from reducing their positive polarization by totally eliminating the Orion contact through shielding. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. In effect, the balancing allows an equal amount of positive and negative influx, this balanced by the mind/body/spirit distortions of the social complex. Thus in your particular planetary sphere, less negative, as you would call it, information or stimulus is necessary than positive due to the somewhat negative orientation of your social complex distortion.

16.7 Questioner: In this way, total free will is balanced so that the individual may have an equal opportunity to choose service to others or service to self. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

16.8 Questioner: This is a profound revelation, I believe, in the Law of Free Will. Thank you.

This is a minor question further to make an example of this principle, but if the Confederation landed on Earth, they would be taken as gods, breaking the Law of Free Will and thus reducing their polarization towards service to all. I assume that the same thing would happen if the Orion group landed. How would this affect their polarization towards service to self if they were able to land and became known as gods?

Ra: I am Ra. In the event of mass landing of the Orion group, the effect of polarization would be strongly towards an increase in the service to self, precisely the opposite of the former opportunity which you mentioned.

16.9 Questioner: If the Orion group was able to land, would this increase their polarization? What I am trying to get at is, is it better for them to work behind the scenes and get recruits, shall we say, from our planet, the person on our planet going towards service to self strictly on his own using his free will, or is it just as good for the Orion group to land upon our planet and demonstrate remarkable powers and get people like that?

Ra: I am Ra. The first instance is, in the long run, shall we put it, more salubrious for the Orion group in that it does not infringe upon the Law of One by landing and, thus, does its work through those of this planet. In the second circumstance, a mass landing would create a loss of polarization due to the infringement upon the free will of the planet. However, it would be a gamble. If the planet then were conquered and became part of the Empire, the free will would then be re-established. This is restrained in action due to the desire of the Orion group to progress towards the One Creator. This desire to progress inhibits the group from breaking the Law of Confusion.

16.10 Questioner: You mentioned the word “Empire” in relation to the Orion group. I have thought for some time that the movie Star Wars was somehow an allegory, in part, for what is actually happening. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct in the same way that a simple children’s story is an allegory for physical/philosophical/social complex distortion/understanding.

16.11 Questioner: Is there a harvest of entities oriented towards service to self like there is a harvest here of entities oriented towards service to others?

Ra: I am Ra. There is one harvest. Those able to enter fourth density through vibrational complex levels may choose the manner of their further seeking of the One Creator.

16.12 Questioner: Then as we enter the fourth density there will be a split, shall we say, and part of the individuals who go into the fourth density will go to planets or places where there is service to others and the other part will go into places where there is service to self. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

16.13 Questioner: Well, the Confederation established its quarantine I understand seventy-five thousand years ago. Has the Orion group been attempting to contact any part of this planet prior to that or… did they… how long have they been attempting [inaudible] contacting this planet?

Ra: I am Ra. Approximately four five thousand [45,000] years ago an attempt was made. It was not successful. Approximately two six oh oh, two thousand six hundred [2,600]*, years ago the group sent an entity of social memory complex to this planetary sphere. This effort met with some success but was in the space/time continuum lessened in impact. Since approximately two three oh oh, two thousand three hundred [2,300]*, years ago in your measurement this group has constantly been working upon the harvest just as the Confederation.

* Ra corrected these dates in session 17. They should be 3,600 and 3,300 years ago, respectively.

16.14 Questioner: Can you name the entity that they sent here twenty-six hundred years ago… two thousand six hundred years ago?*

* The correct time frame is 3,600 years. See Ra’s statement opening session 17.
Ra: I am Ra. This entity named by your peoples, Yahweh.

16.15 Questioner: Can you tell me the origin of the Ten Commandments?

Ra: I am Ra. The origin of these commandments follows the law of negative entities impressing information upon positively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes. The information attempted to copy or ape positivity while retaining negative characteristics.

16.16 Questioner: Was this done by the Orion group?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

16.17 Questioner: What was their purpose in doing this?

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of the Orion group, as mentioned before, is conquest and enslavement. This is done by finding and establishing an elite and causing others to serve the elite through various devices such as the laws you mention and others given by this entity.

16.18 Questioner: Was the recipient of the laws… of the Ten Commandments positively or negatively oriented?

Ra: The recipient was one of extreme positivity, thus accounting for some of the pseudo-positive characteristics of the information received. As with contacts which are not successful, this entity, vibratory complex, Moishe, did not remain a credible influence among those who had first heard the philosophy of One and this entity was removed from this third-density vibratory level in a lessened or saddened state, having lost what you may call the honor and faith with which he had begun the conceptualization of the Law of One and the freeing of those who were of his tribes, as they were called at that time/space.

16.19 Questioner: If this entity was positively oriented, how was the Orion group able to contact him?

Ra: I am Ra. This was an intensive, shall we say, battleground between positively oriented forces of Confederation origin and negatively oriented sources. The one called Moishe was open to impression and received the Law of One in its most simple form. However, the information became negatively oriented due to his people’s pressure to do specific physical things in the third-density planes. This left the entity open for the type of information and philosophy of a self-service nature.

16.20 Questioner: It would be unlike an entity fully aware of the knowledge of the Law of One to ever say “Thou shalt not.” Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
So there is no cosmic law that prevents any STS empire from coming in guns blazing and taking over in an overt and heavy handed fashion. There is no cosmic law which dictates automatic retribution for said empire. The only cosmic law is that the freewill of the enslaved group has to be integrated and aligned with the conquering group within a certain period of "time." The enslaved group has to be so starstruck with the "shock and awe" of the conquering group's power that they believe that the conquering group is a superior race and will therefore do whatever they say because of a self-generated inferiority complex. Might makes right.

I see two difficulties with this approach. First, the initial invasion/show of force requires a lot of energy to be expended and essentially lost in initially breaking the Law of Freewill. Claiming the right to rule just because you have the biggest weapons does nothing to win hearts and minds and is just a ploy used by a big bully to hopefully subsume lesser bullies into some kind of pecking order. While this can be obfuscated by the performance of "miracles," the more intelligent entities will always be able to discern that the true source of power revolves around threats of force, which anyone can do. Secondly, if the conquering group simply tries to cajole the target group into subjugation without breaking the Law of Freewill, and simply walks away when subjugation is rejected, then all they have really lost is the inability to add the energy of the target group to their own. In the invasion scenario, the conquering group not only loses their energy that they invested into the initial invasion, but also now have the freewill energy that they are trying to capture actively working against them and being effectively subtracted from whatever energy reserves they possess, unless they win the gamble and can inspire genuine devotion. This could lead to all sorts of weird effects as the universe attempts to rebalance the conflicting energies. For this reason, the STO beings seem to believe that 4D STS won't attempt the overt invasion, but perhaps they are naive.

While 4D STS has yet to launch a real invasion, the number of sightings in conjunction with the drip-drip disclosure could mean that they just don't care and have signaled to their lackeys that they are coming. On a purely 3D level, the establishment of Biden's totalitarian state is subject to the same dynamics, and the degree of 4D involvement is unknown.
 

Quill

Jedi
ANT22 said:

"And the masses did not choose to accept the totalitarian dominance. They know the election was a fraud and their president was stolen from them. How are the PTB going to manipulate the people into accepting totalitarianism if they don't even accept the PTB's chosen dictator? With Biden in the office instead of Trump the show may be more interesting to watch - and it may actually be shorter with things going downhill quicker."

Hmmm, seeing a couple subliminals on super bowl 55 is certainly massaging some in the direction of centralization which seems to be where they like to take us. Do subliminals register in our subconscious, l wonder what kind of retention or residual remains after viewing them, if any. Corporations seem to spend hefty amounts embedding them in their advertisements.

Bruce Springsteen's Jeep commercial using the phrase, "The Reunited states of America" made my jaw drop, not to mention the red star at the center of our nation where we're all supposed to come together as one and heal the divide. Using the country church (legacy) theme was way over the top for me. Anyway the following:


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Red star. The five-pointed red star is a symbol of communism as well as broader socialism in general. The red star was a revolutionary symbol after the October Revolution and following civil war in Russia. ... Today, the red star is used by many socialist and communist parties and organizations across the world.
Michaelrc, thanks for posting. Springsteen used to be my teenage idol. It seems that I'm not teenager anymore, and Springsteen has shown, what he's made of. What a bugger. Being a millionaire, he must be really illuminated. Let's let him knock himself out, and see if there is anything left after that.
 

BHelmet

Dagobah Resident
I think the mass of humanity is consistent in our ability to cooperate, work together, and be flexible in our endeavors. It comes from our nature - this ability.

So, we never change in that regard. And so, we are empire in its natural state - just being ourselves. So this notion of TPTB being influential in negative ways against our nature is something to see, and if you give their spectacles too much credit, and distracted by it too long, you tend to overlook yourself and your nature. But it is always operating throughout, but TPTB are like a circus that isn't a part of the human community, and wants to extract all it can from it by conducting these distractions.
They are not essential, but we welcome some of it as it adds to our diversity, which makes our nature more empirical.
And so, they probably want to see how far they can take their spectacles - but don't seem to understand - as they guage us we guage them. And what we do is out of necessity, and we will do it ongoing, but their motives are without grounding, and will tire and end in destruction or fizzle into non-existance.
So, we tend to tolerate, even though it is negative, but we also persevere as it is what we do, and they are decadent and in a state of turmoil - perhaps looking for purpose in simple things.
LOL - as I read this post...I imagined being read by the Boss, Springsteen with a tear-jerker violin whining in the back ground and a lot of angsty slo-mo camera work exactly like the Jeep commercial. LOL!! Perfect!!
 

Keit

Ambassador
Ambassador
FOTCM Member
If I remember correctly, it was FRV that rendered implants ineffective. I think it's negative emotions that can drive negative thought loops that can make someone easier to control. "Emotions that limit based on assumption.."

My understanding is that even if you have to get vaccinated with the worst concoction they come up with, if you have also 'built an inner cathedral' by working through your issues, applying counter-measures like immune-system-supporting protocols, and drawing on the shared strength and faith of a 'network in Christ', their technological wizardry cannot negatively affect you.

Perhaps this point was already mentioned, so fwiw.

I wondered about the chip being selective, especially since Pfizer vaccine has 5 or more doses in the bottle. This would make the selective chipization idea rather hard to implement (or would it?), if the chip is supposedly already in the vaccine.

So I had a thought that perhaps the vaccine was like a "substrate", a preparation that would allow for a selective introduction of a "reagent" - a chip. Perhaps something else could be also introduced and "catalyze" a reaction.

In such a case, who knows, perhaps the introduction of the "reagent" is indeed similar to the introduction of the "alien implant", and overcoming its influences is also similar.

Ark came in and said "how did that happen? I just checked and went out, did three clicks on my computer, and now the time is up?!" So, he was surprised too; I wasn't the only one feeling like time was just a bit quirky. If it had just been me, I would have written it off as being more sleepy and in a semi-sleeping state and thus, subject to miscalculating time. But since Ark was also surprised I realized that something strange really did happen thought it was, of course, one of those things that you can never prove.

For last week's Wave reading meeting we had to read chapters 41 and 42. And chapter 41 describes an "eclipsing of realities". And this particular part caught my attention:

A: Whenever two opposing units of reality intersect, this causes what can be referred to as friction, which, for an immeasurable amount of what you would refer to as time, which is, of course, nonexistent, creates a nonexistence, or a stopping of the movements of all functions. This is what we would know as conflict. In between, or through any intersecting, opposite entities, we always find zero time, zero movement, zero transference, zero exchange. Now think about this. Think about this carefully.

Q: (L) Does this mean that I was, essentially, in a condition of nonexistence?

A: Well, nonexistence is not really the proper term, but non-fluid existence would be more to the point. Do you understand?

Q: (L) Yes. Frozen, as it were?

A: Frozen, as it were.

Q: (L) Was there any benefit to me from this experience?

A: All experiences have potential for benefit.

Q: (L) Was there any detriment from this experience?

A: All experiences have potential for detriment. Now, do you see the parallels? We are talking about any opposing forces in nature, when they come together, the result can go all the way to the extreme of one side or all the way to the extreme of the other. Or, it can remain perfectly, symmetrically in balance in the middle, or partially in balance on one side or another. Therefore all potentials are realized at intersecting points in reality. […]

So in the "eclipsing of realities" event there was "zero movement", while in the recent event it was a "glitch in the matrix", a change in program, where time was perceived as "missing". Perhaps moving quickly or being fluid?

I can't really formulate my thought on this, and not sure if it has some validy, I simply thought that it was an interesting contrast, and that perhaps in this recent case there was no "conflict", friction or "eclipsing", but indeed a smooth move to a different branch or timeline. :-D
 

Jefferson

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
Making my way through the comments. Posted this on FB yesterday. May aswell share it here too.

Just some thoughts I would like to share.

When all seems lost
When it feels like
There is no way out
No hope to survive
By taking responsibility
Help arrives
No matter the situation
Never give your
Power away to authority
Life or death
The will to live is
In your hands

When we give
Away our will
When we give away our power
Our destiny is no longer
In our hands
No matter what happens
Its not happening
To you but
For you to learn
And grow

Never give in
Never give up
Through will
Through effort
When you least
Expect a way will appear
So always have faith
and never give up.❤
Just excellent!

A potential song for @Seppo Ilmarinen and @aragorn ? 😊 🎵
 

MJF

Jedi Master
Yes. How much time do you have when a planet is about to turn to dust?

A certain number of people will have had the possibility to escape by using these Merkabah devices and the major part of them got here by the help of the greys. Have spacecraft actually been mentioned or were these people just uploaded to 4D and set down in the Eurasian planes?

I don't think the K's were a spacefaring race or otherwise they would have made it to Earth already having conquered the place by that time.

Incidentally 4D-STS must have done this 'service to others' to make sure they still have enough of 3D energies to feed off. They just couldn't let all of these Kantekkians go to waste.

I don't think that Mars could have been colonized by the Atlanteans during Kantekkian times, because they are said to have reached their technological apex only during a couple of millennia before their own demise.

There need not have been much civilization on Mars anyway because the Atlanteans may have been satisfied with building their pyramids to create power.

Did you mean when the residual civilization of the Mars outpost was destroyed? Well, it will have suffered a steady decline by being cut off from the deceased empire.
Hi, Ursus Minor, I appreciate your comments. I agree that Mars was probably colonised by the Atlanteans long after the demise of Kantek and, obviously, the surviving Kantekians had by then become integrated into Atlantean society. To answer your question about the level of colonisation of Mars, I think it was quite extensive judging by the images I have seen on various Mars anomalies websites. I would confess to doing quite a study of this over the years. I would recommend Richard Hoagland and Mike Barra's websites as a starting point for good NASA images of the Mars anomalies, as well as Joseph's Skipper's website if it is still up (as he died a few years ago).

There were significant cities and manufacturing operations on Mars judging from the imagery I have seen. Evidently, Mars had an earthlike environment then for there is no indication of any sky domes or shields to protect these sites and provide a breathable atmosphere. I will stick my neck out here and say that NASA has for its own reasons deliberately painted an image of Mars that makes it seem far more alien and inhospitable an environment than it is in reality. For example, the sky on Mars is blue not red or pink as NASA imagery usually shows. There is currently water on Mars and there is life. Many Martian images show trees as on Earth (indeed whole forests) and large parts of Mars turn green in the Martian spring and summer. C19th astronomers observed this phenomenon and deduced there might be a surviving civilisation on Mars using canals to transport water around the planet. H.G.Wells jumped on this bandwagon when writing the 'War of the Worlds'. Incidentally, he started the Martian invasion near to Woking in Surrey, just down the road from where I live. When the late science fiction writer Arthur C Clarke was shown pictures of some of these trees on Mars he exclaimed "if they look like trees they must be trees". To back this up, they have found significant levels of methane in the Martian atmosphere. The only two processes that can cause this are decaying life or volcanism. NASA has not yet found one active volcano on Mars. Methane traces need to be constantly replenished since methane will drift off into space over time. Hence, there has to be some an ongoing process to provide the level of methane NASA has detected in the Martian atmosphere.

I will share one last point with you that may provide much food for thought as regards what may have happened on Mars to end that civilisation. John Brandenburg, a leading plasma physicist, wrote a book called 'Death on Mars' in which he provided evidence of nuclear war on Mars. He found evidence in the Martian atmosphere of certain atomic isotopes that you only get with nuclear explosions. He thought at first that these explosions may have occurred naturally. However, when he discussed his findings with fellow scientists, they came to the conclusion that the concentration of these isotopes suggested that the explosions could only have been caused by weapons grade nuclear material. Perhaps our ancestors regarded Mars as the God of War for good reason as this was an ancient retained folk memory.
 

MJF

Jedi Master
Hi, Ursus Minor, I appreciate your comments. I agree that Mars was probably colonised by the Atlanteans long after the demise of Kantek and, obviously, the surviving Kantekians had by then become integrated into Atlantean society. To answer your question about the level of colonisation of Mars, I think it was quite extensive judging by the images I have seen on various Mars anomalies websites. I would confess to doing quite a study of this over the years. I would recommend Richard Hoagland and Mike Barra's websites as a starting point for good NASA images of the Mars anomalies, as well as Joseph's Skipper's website if it is still up (as he died a few years ago).

There were significant cities and manufacturing operations on Mars judging from the imagery I have seen. Evidently, Mars had an earthlike environment then for there is no indication of any sky domes or shields to protect these sites and provide a breathable atmosphere. I will stick my neck out here and say that NASA has for its own reasons deliberately painted an image of Mars that makes it seem far more alien and inhospitable an environment than it is in reality. For example, the sky on Mars is blue not red or pink as NASA imagery usually shows. There is currently water on Mars and there is life. Many Martian images show trees as on Earth (indeed whole forests) and large parts of Mars turn green in the Martian spring and summer. C19th astronomers observed this phenomenon and deduced there might be a surviving civilisation on Mars using canals to transport water around the planet. H.G.Wells jumped on this bandwagon when writing the 'War of the Worlds'. Incidentally, he started the Martian invasion near to Woking in Surrey, just down the road from where I live. When the late science fiction writer Arthur C Clarke was shown pictures of some of these trees on Mars he exclaimed "if they look like trees they must be trees". To back this up, they have found significant levels of methane in the Martian atmosphere. The only two processes that can cause this are decaying life or volcanism. NASA has not yet found one active volcano on Mars. Methane traces need to be constantly replenished since methane will drift off into space over time. Hence, there has to be some an ongoing process to provide the level of methane NASA has detected in the Martian atmosphere.

I will share one last point with you that may provide much food for thought as regards what may have happened on Mars to end that civilisation. John Brandenburg, a leading plasma physicist, wrote a book called 'Death on Mars' in which he provided evidence of nuclear war on Mars. He found evidence in the Martian atmosphere of certain atomic isotopes that you only get with nuclear explosions. He thought at first that these explosions may have occurred naturally. However, when he discussed his findings with fellow scientists, they came to the conclusion that the concentration of these isotopes suggested that the explosions could only have been caused by weapons grade nuclear material. Perhaps our ancestors regarded Mars as the God of War for good reason as this was an ancient retained folk memory.
For those of a more scientific bent, I am attaching a 2016 paper John Brandenburg wrote on the Martian nuclear war hypothesis.
 

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