Session 4 April 2015

[miguel angel]

(Galatea) What star or constellation are you closest to right now?

A: We ride the Wave and thus are much "closer" than you can imagine. At the same time, imagination is the most direct way to comprehend that we are only a thought away.

People who don't have imagination are really boring.

I think that in this sentence they are saying to us that they are very near, we are very near them, and if they are us in the future, we, with imagination are in the future now. Or we can be.

Just people with imagination can change this present that is a total chaos. Imagining the future, fighting for it, everyone at his rhythm, but imagining together this change.

I agree with Loreta. Sometimes I wonder if we are not in some way inside of them, the C's, inside of 7D in some way, it that makes any sense. Maybe I will diverge a bit now, but I would like to share a thought with all of you. I use to drive a lot, and probably due to having internalised the "as above so below", while driving, sometimes I imagine we (drivers) are like the cells in the human body: red blood cells, leukocytes, etc. We are making different jobs/duties and we serve different goals. And probably what we consider in our body takes one second, i.e. an inspiration, for a leukocyte takes a day (in case they feel) or a week, or a month. Who knows. And this is what I think it can be the "no time" the C's talk about sometimes. And that maybe while "somebody" in 5D is "living" the 1.000 thousand years process, here in the BBM we don't notice it or it is just 1 year or 10 years for us. Maybe I am too way off :/

Anyway, to give a bit of context, although it is from the movie Men In Black, I would like to share something that maybe is an analogy or can put things in perspective.

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJOVUF-HaDw

It starts after second 32.

I liked as well this item on SOTT a lot, because I think it reinforces the C's saying "Thou are not so special".

http://www.sott.net/article/292517-Where-are-we-in-the-universe-Most-detailed-map-yet

And as someone commented there, it seems we are in someone's brain. Information Theory anyone? I hope I had not diverged too much.

 

[Divide by Zero]

Miguel, I have thought about that.
To be a cell in some other living being, or an atom in a molecule.

It's a good reminder to tell ourselves to stick to what we can do, instead of thinking we are super spiritual and know what is beyond this. What we see here is a shadow of what is out there.

 

[Al Today]

Miguel, I have thought about that.
To be a cell in some other living being, or an atom in a molecule.

It's a good reminder to tell ourselves to stick to what we can do, instead of thinking we are super spiritual and know what is beyond this. What we see here is a shadow of what is out there.

Exactly... What we "see" is only what our limited abilities can understand. We have been misdirected and lied to all our lives If there is more information out there, that has been withheld from us. My conspiracy theory is that what we could learn, what we could experience has been hidden from our view.

Myself included, many complain about this pissy 3D existence, but remember... this is a controlled 3D STS environment after all. I cannot even imagine what a STO 3D environment "is". Speaking for myself here, perhaps we must experience both, STO & STS. After all, how can one know happiness if never feel sadness, on and on...

Be Now what we Work for. Methinks the truth will be known, but not right now... Intent and Work towards an end may be of importance...

 

[Psalehesost]

Are we on our own as the human race, without influence from outside, making our own free will choices based upon our nature?

Gurdjieff pointed out that all the work on oneself - everything - is all about the choice of "which influence" you wish to subject yourself to. To become free from one influence is to become subject to another. I.e., everything is all about whether to be aligned with STO/objectivity or STS/subjectivity.

We are always "plugged into" something greater than ourselves. The question is simply, what? Regardless, we are not alone.

We either mainly have self-serving forces making a meal out of us (through our choice, even if it is a passive choice), or the possibility of inspiration and teaching from higher-D STO which requires our active work and choice to manifest in any real way.

As above, so below - everything that happens through us is (predominantly) one of the sides in action.

Our nature - at present and in potential - is inseparable from "influence from outside".

OSIT.

 

[syldan]

Thank you for the incredible session. What timely answers to our very burning questions!

Many thanks to each and every one making this possible. It really is an honor (as a soul fragment) to feel so part of something so brilliant, even if just in a small, tiny, humble, quality....

C's: you never cease to amaze me!
Group: many thanks for lack of words!

 

[ka]

Thanks so much for the marvelous session.

I’ve been living with the communications given in the 4-4-2015 Cassiopaean Session for a couple of days, now. Having it in mind as I went about my daily business gave the ideas a chance to recombine with each other and with things going on in my own life. A lightbulb went on.

I was forced to recognize the importance of dealing responsibly with some “trivial” things.

I’ve been observing over the past year how aggravated I often become at the dysfunctionality of some of the electronic equipment I have to use at work. The equipment is not broken; the dysfunction is not caused by operator error; it’s just that a certain amount of dysfunctionality seems to be built in to the system. It routinely requires 5 minutes just to put a barcode scanner back into order so that it do a scan that should take 2 seconds. In the middle of a computer task, it often requires several minutes to click through screens and submit a series of passwords, to get back into a software program that terminated my connection because I’d been on longer than its “security limit.” Of course, this is in the middle of “multi-tasking,” trying to get several other things done simultaneously—under pressure—with constant interruptions, and every single thing is an obstacle course. It literally shreds one’s awareness. I find myself wallowing in the same old ruts: resenting my enslavement to technology, resenting the demands made on me, etc. I am well aware I it’s a vice I really can’t afford, but by the time I notice, I’ve already got a foot on the treadmill, and the damage is done.

What the C’s had to say about souls inhabiting bodies only upon certain conditions—the idea that a soul might abandon an individual whose FRV became incompatible—brought me up in my tracks! Stinking up my consciousness with all that aggravation over trivia might have huge consequences! I’d better find a way to clean up my act!

How can I pre-empt this automatic mental \emotional habit? In the moment of obstruction and frustration, simply reminding myself, “now, now, you don’t want to go there,” doesn’t have the desired effect. On the other hand, presence of other people, or a matter of real importance, is enough to keep me off the treadmill of aggravation, self-pity and resentment. The sheer triviality is part of the trap.

As these things knocked around in mind during my morning walk, the idea dawned: the dysfunctional equipment and competing demands on my attention are all part of the CHAOS that the C’s spoke of in this last communication. It’s not just an electronic glitch that upsets me: it’s the chaos.

The chaos is not trivial—it’s huge.

It’s crucial t0address the chaos as a fully aware human being. It’s the difference between polluting a soul, and maybe losing it, or evolving.

From now on, when the computer burps and the scanner loses its connection to server, and the usual response of !#@!, leaps into play, I can tell myself, “It’s the chaos.” Remembering that might make it possible to deal with it like a real human being rather than a dysfunctional machine.

Thanks to the Cassiopaeans, and thanks to the Chateau Crew for making this priceless wisdom available.

 

[duyunne]

"It’s not just an electronic glitch that upsets me: it’s the chaos."

"The chaos is not trivial—it’s huge. "

I agree. Chaos isn't only a catastrophic event. It's also the smaller events that have the potential to snowball into catastrophe. Our service to others can begin within the realm of the mundane and the forgettable. To mindfully disregard our frustrations over the little things! As if to water the flame before it becomes a blaze.

We could be frazzled by the dysfunctional tech at our work place and let it best us, which could result in us innocently enough to become short with the wrong person, which could affect them later when we aren't even in their presence. It's as if negativity can spread and intensify from person to person, resulting in an unimaginable mishaps.

Such as the soft wing strokes of the butterfly causing hazardous winds upon its polar spectrum.

Being mindful of these small events and managing them as they occur is a big deal and an important task.

 

[goyacobol]

"It’s not just an electronic glitch that upsets me: it’s the chaos."

"The chaos is not trivial—it’s huge. "

I agree. Chaos isn't only a catastrophic event. It's also the smaller events that have the potential to snowball into catastrophe. Our service to others can begin within the realm of the mundane and the forgettable. To mindfully disregard our frustrations over the little things! As if to water the flame before it becomes a blaze.

We could be frazzled by the dysfunctional tech at our work place and let it best us, which could result in us innocently enough to become short with the wrong person, which could affect them later when we aren't even in their presence. It's as if negativity can spread and intensify from person to person, resulting in an unimaginable mishaps.

Such as the soft wing strokes of the butterfly causing hazardous winds upon its polar spectrum.

Being mindful of these small events and managing them as they occur is a big deal and an important task.

zin and ka,

I agree too. And very well said I think. Maybe it could be the difference between riding the Wave or being swept under it. :O

 

[kalibex]

Maybe it could be the difference between riding the Wave or being swept under it. :O

It's a Winnower. Right now, I've started really noticing the rising reports of the bizarre murders and murder-suicides reported on Facebook, for example, and say to myself: Oh, right...they told us this would happen. People're starting to checkout, faster and faster. Flaring up like little moths too close to the flame.

At times, my inner predator (a little insecure, virtual iguana curled up in my r-brain?) wibbles anxiously (like the inevitable wag who would always, from the back of the bus, intone dramatically 'We're gonna DIEEE!!!' every time the school bus broke down on the way to school - except the iguana's genuinely worried.)

Other times, I feel an almost unseemly glee: EEeeee!!! How Exciting! It's an Opportunity.

Weird days.

 

[Thaigrr]

Thanks so much for the marvelous session.

I’ve been living with the communications given in the 4-4-2015 Cassiopaean Session for a couple of days, now. Having it in mind as I went about my daily business gave the ideas a chance to recombine with each other and with things going on in my own life. A lightbulb went on.

I was forced to recognize the importance of dealing responsibly with some “trivial” things.

I’ve been observing over the past year how aggravated I often become at the dysfunctionality of some of the electronic equipment I have to use at work. The equipment is not broken; the dysfunction is not caused by operator error; it’s just that a certain amount of dysfunctionality seems to be built in to the system. It routinely requires 5 minutes just to put a barcode scanner back into order so that it do a scan that should take 2 seconds. In the middle of a computer task, it often requires several minutes to click through screens and submit a series of passwords, to get back into a software program that terminated my connection because I’d been on longer than its “security limit.” Of course, this is in the middle of “multi-tasking,” trying to get several other things done simultaneously—under pressure—with constant interruptions, and every single thing is an obstacle course. It literally shreds one’s awareness. I find myself wallowing in the same old ruts: resenting my enslavement to technology, resenting the demands made on me, etc. I am well aware I it’s a vice I really can’t afford, but by the time I notice, I’ve already got a foot on the treadmill, and the damage is done.

What the C’s had to say about souls inhabiting bodies only upon certain conditions—the idea that a soul might abandon an individual whose FRV became incompatible—brought me up in my tracks! Stinking up my consciousness with all that aggravation over trivia might have huge consequences! I’d better find a way to clean up my act!

How can I pre-empt this automatic mental \emotional habit? In the moment of obstruction and frustration, simply reminding myself, “now, now, you don’t want to go there,” doesn’t have the desired effect. On the other hand, presence of other people, or a matter of real importance, is enough to keep me off the treadmill of aggravation, self-pity and resentment. The sheer triviality is part of the trap.

As these things knocked around in mind during my morning walk, the idea dawned: the dysfunctional equipment and competing demands on my attention are all part of the CHAOS that the C’s spoke of in this last communication. It’s not just an electronic glitch that upsets me: it’s the chaos.

The chaos is not trivial—it’s huge.

It’s crucial t0address the chaos as a fully aware human being. It’s the difference between polluting a soul, and maybe losing it, or evolving.

From now on, when the computer burps and the scanner loses its connection to server, and the usual response of !#@!, leaps into play, I can tell myself, “It’s the chaos.” Remembering that might make it possible to deal with it like a real human being rather than a dysfunctional machine.

Thanks to the Cassiopaeans, and thanks to the Chateau Crew for making this priceless wisdom available.

This brought a nostalgic chuckle to me. Back in my pre-retirement manufacturing career, frustrations with equipment seemed at times to suggest some

kind of "machine demon possession". Upon reflection, a 50/50 mix of my impatience clouding my decision making/CHAOS was what defined it all.

CHAOS was a concept unknown to me at that time. That being said, working on calming myself (breathing, walking away, hitting machine with hammer)

was my only avenue.

"If only I knew then what I know now!"

 

[khadi]

The exchange about divine will I read as communicating two different things.

"(Divine will is) energy of information configurations of infinite permutations." - this implies that 'information configurations' are a subset of 'infinite permutations'. The image I get is of order amid chaos: divine will as conscious creation/formation in an environment of raw material.

"Infinite permutations of information configurations produce energy." - this takes the 'information configurations' associated with divine will and says that permutations of these produce energy. This feels like good news! To me it implies that we can propagate, or maybe activate, divine will horizontally.

 

[Mr.Cyan]

Thank you for the session.

A: The same source is certainly toying with the "PTB" and enjoying their power and the resulting turmoil.

"Enjoying" the resulting turmoil????? the deaths of 150 people.
I still have problems with understanding our non-feeling 'neighbors'.

Yes this came as bit of a shock to me too! I think it has helped me to just think of these individuals as dead inside; machines things with very twisted emotions that occupy human bodies that are animated by certain 'alien' forces. How else to explain their supremely evil nature aside from what we know about the nature of psychopaths?

If ya'll have been keeping up on the study of psychopathology, this would not be at all surprising nor difficult to understand. Nobody does anything without a "payoff". Yes, it is hard to understand what psychopaths get out of what they do, but with effort and application, you can begin to understand it. The twist is, they can NEVER understand normal humans.

Understanding psychopaths really, really, is important. Without this understanding, you can't "see behind the curtain" or connect the dots. We all tend to project our motivations onto others and it is particularly bad when you do that in the direction of a psychopath. I'm guilty of it again and again because, like everyone else, it was really hard for me to grok and I had to spend about ten years studying it from every angle to really get it hammered into my brain.

Probably every aspect of our lives is influenced by psychopaths so there is very good reason to study them as unpleasant as it may be. And it is decidedly unpleasant, repellant, disturbing, and all of that. But without doing so, we are at their mercy.

Fully agreed Laura. In light of the C's mentioning that the Wave is already here, in the times ahead, they are definitely going to go "berserk" and wreck more untold misery and suffering upon humanity - hence it is imperative that we understand their pathology directly and in detail, and develop effective measures to counteract them, at least in our personal sphere or microcosm. The world is indeed a freak show now, as excellently summarised by Joe, and Harrison in their Sott article today. I think this is also an important aspect of the Work - knowing evil, understanding it, and counteracting it. In survival situations as well, when law and order breaks down, we will definitely have to face them, hence its going to be crucial to adapt, avoid, and also repel.

Personally, my first clear encounter with these predators was in 2010 in a workplace environment. This was in my opinion a malevolent kind, masquerading as a professional, and he was out to get me as i was in his way towards "success". Synchronistically, this was around the time i was reading the Wave series "Petty Tyrants" - luckily for me, while i was emotionaly drained and very upset dealing with that psychopath, i had a "manual" to help me understand their psychology. From Petty Tyrants, i then read Castaneda, Political Ponerology, and Cleckley's Mask of Sanity. These were invaluable in understanding what intraspecies predators they are, and developing strategies to handle them and remove them from my personal sphere. Since then, for some reason, i have come across quite a number of them at work (feels like the Agents in the Matrix), and have to had to deal, and "battle" with them on many occasions - and some strategies work better than others when dealing with them. Thinking about it deeper last night after reading this thread, i have summarised some strategies that i have used in situations when dealing with them in the workplace. I post it in the Forum at the link below if Forum members are interested, in order not to go offtopic with this thread:

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,37905.0.html

 

[kalibex]

Probably every aspect of our lives is influenced by psychopaths so there is very good reason to study them as unpleasant as it may be. And it is decidedly unpleasant, repellant, disturbing, and all of that. But without doing so, we are at their mercy.

Fully agreed Laura. In light of the C's mentioning that the Wave is already here, in the times ahead, they are definitely going to go "berserk" and wreck more untold misery and suffering upon humanity...

When I think upon the downed flight, I get this impression of mingled Spite and Indulgence - like a child carelessly flinging a toy, just to see it destroyed.

 

[skycsil]

What the C’s had to say about souls inhabiting bodies only upon certain conditions—the idea that a soul might abandon an individual whose FRV became incompatible—brought me up in my tracks! Stinking up my consciousness with all that aggravation over trivia might have huge consequences! I’d better find a way to clean up my act!

How can I pre-empt this automatic mental \emotional habit? In the moment of obstruction and frustration, simply reminding myself, “now, now, you don’t want to go there,” doesn’t have the desired effect. On the other hand, presence of other people, or a matter of real importance, is enough to keep me off the treadmill of aggravation, self-pity and resentment. The sheer triviality is part of the trap.

That makes a lot of sense to me right now. I've been focusing too much on trying to "save" people with a lot of potential, but came to realise that "potential" means nothing when the choice is already made. A nice lesson about free will and self importance here. After all, who am I to "save" those that don't want to be saved?

 

[Dave_P]

What the C’s had to say about souls inhabiting bodies only upon certain conditions—the idea that a soul might abandon an individual whose FRV became incompatible—brought me up in my tracks! Stinking up my consciousness with all that aggravation over trivia might have huge consequences! I’d better find a way to clean up my act!

How can I pre-empt this automatic mental \emotional habit? In the moment of obstruction and frustration, simply reminding myself, “now, now, you don’t want to go there,” doesn’t have the desired effect. On the other hand, presence of other people, or a matter of real importance, is enough to keep me off the treadmill of aggravation, self-pity and resentment. The sheer triviality is part of the trap.

That makes a lot of sense to me right now. I've been focusing too much on trying to "save" people with a lot of potential, but came to realise that "potential" means nothing when the choice is already made. A nice lesson about free will and self importance here. After all, who am I to "save" those that don't want to be saved?

Sometimes we think we can "save" other, but the first thing is "who i am to save other?" "save for what/who?". Some people need add experiences in their life and that is fine. Other people need repeat lessons after know what they means. So, after all, the process of be "save" is natural. Be yourself and work in your own machine is the best way to "save other" and let the free will run to the people who have "potential". after all, we are learning in our own "time"