Session 8, January 26, 1981
Questioner: There was a portion of the material from yesterday which I will
read where you say “there is a certain amount of landing taking place. Some
of these landings are of your own people; some are of the group known to
you as Orion.” My first question is what did you mean that some of the
landings are of your peoples?
Ra: I am Ra. Your peoples have, at this time/space present, the
technological achievement, if you would call it that, of being able to create
and fly the shape and type of craft known to you as unidentified flying
objects. Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your
peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for
potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your
social memory complex, causing a situation where neither those oriented
towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the
energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social
memory complex. This in turn causes the harvest to be small.
Questioner: Are these craft that are from our peoples from what we call
planes that are not incarnate at this time? Where are they based?
Ra: I am Ra. These of which we spoke are of third density and are part of
the so-called military complex of various of your peoples’ societal divisions
or structures.
The bases are varied. There are bases, as you would call them, undersea in
your southern waters near the Bahamas as well as in your Pacific seas in
various places close to your Chilean borders on the water. There are bases
upon your moon, as you call this satellite, which are at this time being
reworked. There are bases which move about your lands. There are bases, if
you would call them that, in your skies. These are the bases of your peoples,
very numerous and, as we have said, potentially destructive.
Questioner: Where do the people who operate these craft come from? Are
they affiliated with any nation on Earth. What is their source?
Ra: These people come from the same place as you or I. They come from
the Creator.
As you intend the question, in its shallower aspect, these people are those in
your and other selves’ governments responsible for what you would term
national security.
Questioner: Am I to understand then that the United States has these craft
in undersea bases?
Ra: I am Ra. You are correct.
Questioner: How did the United States learn the technology to build these
craft?
Ra: I am Ra. There was a mind/body/spirit complex known to your people
by the vibratory sound complex, Nikola. This entity departed the illusion
and the papers containing the necessary understandings were taken by
mind/body/spirit complexes serving your security of national divisional
complex. Thus your people became privy to the basic technology. In the
case of those mind/body/spirit complexes which you call Russians, the
technology was given from one of the Confederation in an attempt,
approximately twenty seven of your years ago, to share information and
bring about peace among your peoples. The entities giving this information
were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to
aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid.
That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date,
even as the need is power upon power greater, and your peoples’ call is
greater and greater.
Questioner: I’m puzzled by these craft which have undersea bases. Is this
technology sufficient to overshadow all other armaments? Do we have the
ability to just fly in these craft or are they just craft for transport? What is
the basic mechanism of their power source? It’s really hard to believe is what
I’m saying.
Ra: I am Ra. The craft are perhaps misnamed in some instances. It would
be more appropriate to consider them as weaponry. The energy used is that
of the field of electromagnetic energy which polarizes the Earth sphere. The
weaponry is of two basic kinds: that which is called by your peoples
psychotronic and that which is called by your peoples particle beam. The
amount of destruction which is contained in this technology is considerable
and the weapons have been used in many cases to alter weather patterns and
to enhance the vibratory change which engulfs your planet at this time.
Questioner: How have they been able to keep this a secret? Why aren’t
these craft in use for transport?
Ra: The governments of each of your societal division illusions desire to
refrain from publicity so that the surprise may be retained in case of hostile
action from what your peoples call enemies.
Questioner: How many of these craft does the United States have?
Ra: I am Ra. The United States has 573 at this time. They are in the process
of adding to this number.
Questioner: What is the maximum speed of one of these craft?
Ra: I am Ra. The maximum speed of these craft is equal to the Earth energy
squared. This field varies. The limit is approximately one-half the light
speed, as you would call it. This is due to imperfections in design.
Questioner: Would this type of craft come close to solving many of the
energy problems as far as transport goes?
Ra: I am Ra. The technology your peoples possess at this time is capable of
resolving each and every limitation which plagues your social memory
complex at this present nexus of experience. However, the concerns of some
of your beings with distortions towards what you would call powerful
energy cause these solutions to be withheld until the solutions are so needed
that those with the distortion can then become further distorted in the
direction of power.
Questioner: You also said that some of the landings at this time were of the
Orion group. Why did the Orion group land here? What is their purpose?
Ra: I am Ra. Their purpose is conquest, unlike those of the Confederation
who wait for the calling. The so-called Orion group calls itself to conquest.
Questioner: Specifically, what do they do when they land?
Ra: There are two types of landings. In the first, entities among your
peoples are taken on their craft and programmed for future use. There are
two or three levels of programming. First, the level that will be discovered
by those who do research. Second, a triggering program. Third, a second
and most deep triggering program crystallizing the entity thereby rendering
it lifeless and useful as a kind of beacon. This is a form of landing.
The second form is that of landing beneath the Earth’s crust which is
entered from water. Again, in the general area of your South American and
Caribbean areas and close to the so-called northern pole. The bases of these
people are underground.
Questioner: The most startling information that you have given me, which
I must admit that I’m having difficulty believing, is that the United States
has 573 craft of the type which you described. How many people of United
States designation are aware of these craft, including those who operate
them?
Ra: I am Ra. The number of your peoples varies, for there are needs to
communicate at this particular time/space nexus so that the number is
expanding at this time. The approximate number is 1,500. It is only
approximate for as your illusory time/space continuum moves from present
to present at this nexus many are learning.
Questioner: Where are these craft constructed?
Ra: These craft are constructed one by one in two locations: in the desert or
arid regions of your so-called New Mexico and in the desert or arid regions
of your so-called Mexico, both installations being under the ground.
Questioner: Am I to believe that the United States actually has a
manufacturing plant in Mexico?
Ra: I am Ra. I spoke thusly. May I, at this time, reiterate that this type of
information is very shallow and of no particular consequence compared to
the study of the Law of One. However, we carefully watch these
developments in hopes that your peoples are able to be harvested in peace.
Questioner: I am totally aware that this line of questioning is of totally no
consequence at all, but this particular information is so startling to me that
it makes me question your validity on this. Up until this point I was in
agreement with everything you had said. This is very startling to me. It just
does not seem possible to me that this secret could have been kept for
twenty-seven years, and that we are operating these craft. I apologize for my
attitude, but I thought that I would be very honest. It is unbelievable to me
that we would operate a plant in Mexico, outside of the United States, to
build these craft. Maybe I’m mistaken. These craft are physical craft built by
physical people? Could I go get in one and ride in one? Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. You could not ride one. The United States,
as you call your society divisional complex, creates these as a type of
weapon.
Questioner: There are no occupants then? No pilot, shall I say?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Questioner: How are they controlled?
Ra: I am Ra. They are controlled by computer from a remote source of
data.
Questioner: Why do we have a plant in Mexico?
Ra: I am Ra. The necessity is both for dryness of the ground and for a near
total lack of population. Therefore, your so-called government and the socalled
government of your neighboring geographical vicinity arranged for an
underground installation. The government officials who agreed did not
know the use to which their land would be put, but thought it a
governmental research installation for use in what you would call
bacteriological warfare.
Questioner: Is this the type of craft that Dan Frye was transported in?
Ra: I am Ra. The one known as Daniel was, in thought-form, transported
by Confederation thought-form vehicular illusion in order to give this
mind/body/spirit complex data so that we might see how this type of
contact aided your people in the uncovering of the intelligent infinity
behind the illusion of limits.
Questioner: The reason that I have questioned you so much and so
carefully about the craft which you say the United States government
operates is that if we include this in the book it will create numerous
problems. It is something that I am considering leaving out of the book
entirely, or I am going to have to question you in considerable detail about
it. It’s difficult to even question in this area, but I would like to ask a few
more questions about it with the possible option of leaving it in the book.
What is the diameter of the craft which the United States has?
Ra: I am Ra. I suggest that this be the last question for this session. We will
speak as you deem fit in further sessions, asking you to be guided by your
own discernment only.
The approximate diameter, given several model changes, is twenty-three of
your feet, as you measure.