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I found this article that sums up a widespread belief about digital vs analog audio, IE CD vs turntable.
I have tested many thousands of phonograph recordings made over a period of more than eighty years, and have found that almost most examples have been therapeutic, often highly so.[3] In 1979 this changed. I suddenly found that I was not achieving the same therapeutic results as before, that playing records of the same compositions to the same patients was producing a completely contrary effect! Instead of their stress being reduced and their Life Energy being actuated, the opposite was occurring! For instance, music that I had long used to promote sleep now seemed to be actually aggravating the insomnia. I found in one case that instead of the music helping a patient withdraw from tranquilizers, it seemed to increase his need for them. Special tapes for businesspeople to use during their rest periods seemed suddenly to increase rather than reduce their stress. These findings were very alarming.
When I investigated these and many other paradoxical phenomena, I found that in all cases they were related to the use of digital recordings. These were vinyl records (and later CDs) made from digital masters.[4] When I substituted analog versions of the same work, sometimes even with the same performers, the positive therapeutic effects were again obtained. There seemed to me little doubt that something was “wrong” with the digital process. Apparently the digital recording technique not only did not enhance Life Energy and reduce stress, but it was actually untherapeutic; that is, it imposed a stress and reduced Life Energy. Through some mechanism, some severely detrimental effect on the Acupuncture Emotional System, the digital process was somehow reversing the therapeutic effects of the music!
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A: If one is depending on a 3rd density effect, analog is best. If one is attempting to tap higher or "other" realms, digital is more likely to capture the effect.
Q: (L) So if you just want a 3rd density thing like giving somebody drugs or something, you use something analog like records that deliver actual physical vibrations or whatever to the individual. But if you're trying to capture or transmit other realms or other-density effects and so forth, then digital is better. Let's face it, if you're trying to make a recording of ghosts for example, and you leave some kind of recording device in a haunted house and it is supposed to make a record, that would require a kind of cross-density type of energy that would be pretty momentous, I think. It's mechanical. So mechanical effects happen with analog. Digital can be very subtle, electromagnetic...
(Joe) It can be more easily used to convey non-3d stuff.
This was a key bit of information I had been anxiously waiting for. Thank you C's for sharing it and thank you team for being the medium!
The interaction between analog and digital systems is a very fascinating one indeed as a topic of research.
There are specific combinations of both types of systems that can in fact be used to achieve a kind of "bridging" effect between 3rd density and higher/other realms. This is a topic that has interested me greatly for the past 15 years.
It is true, however, in relation to the original quote which was the point of discussion in the transcript, that music intended for an analog medium which has been translated into the digital domain, is losing some of the critical aspects of the signal in the resultant waveform, and so we have made music more benign than ever, or even harmful, by all but abandoning analog music playback in favor of digital.
Ghostdoghaiku said:
I remember years ago, in the beginning of digital recording and the arguments for and against, a very interesting friend had read a research paper talking about the problem with digital sound recordings. I don't know what academic wrote the paper. But it stated that the analog sound was continuous. On the other hand, digital square waves went up, delivered sound information and then instantly cut off information, before the next square wave presented the following bit of sound information. The two packets were disconnected, but at a rate fast enough for the brain to tie them together and make continuous sense of them. At the the time, the bit rates were not as fast as they are now and it was reasoned that this sort of listening caused a stress on the human system, the brain being used to hearing complete continuity in sound. We used to joke that digital music had an empty factor, in the fraction of a second between the square waves, cutting off and turning back on---that you could reach in and there was actually nothing there that you could touch and hold on to.
I can see where that empty space, though smaller than it was in those days, could provide the higher mind a focal point, as the conscious mind is captivated with the square wave musical input. The brain perceives much faster than the digital bit rate. Perhaps we can 'see' through the millisecond windows in digital sound.
You are on to something, but have the details a bit off. Imagine the following scenario. You record an acoustic music instrument or the human voice singing with a microphone, which retains the signal in analog. From this point you can amplify it a little and then immediately translate it to digital audio, or store it on an analog device like tape.
When you play that stored audio back, if it was recorded digitally you must change it back to analog, but if it's played back from tape, it can play directly to the loudspeaker.
In the case of digital recording and playback, the waveform you recorded, even if it was only a singer or a monophonic (one note at a time) instrument, is made up of much more than simply the frequencies of the notes in the order they were performed.
There are no instruments to do the following, so you must imagine it.
Imagine you had a waveform visualizer (like an oscilloscope) with infinite resolution. You could keep zooming in and in on the waveform, and for the x axis the time would keep getting finer, into the milliseconds and nanoseconds and so forth.
Once you've zoomed in far enough, you reach the sample rate of the digital recorder. The digital system will capture the exact measurements of the sample at regular time intervals.
Now, imagine if the waveform, during the time span between one sample point and the next, does not actually travel directly from one measurement to the other. Instead, it ripples around, due to some kind of distortion, or even some kind of fractal harmonics that are impossible to hear but are nonetheless felt by the body.
Now, when this recorded audio is played back, the system that puts it back into analog has forgotten all about that additional detail in the signal I just mentioned. It will draw a straight line from one sample to the other, so that the signal will play back "smoothly" (no square wave), but in fact, a little too smoothly, smoother than it was before.
The waveform has been robbed of all the additional detail between all of the individual sample points!
Why do those who strongly believe in the equivalence of digital audio disagree with what I propose?
Because of
Divide By Zero said:
There is no square wave, especially at the medium and low frequencies. Sample rate is typically 44,100 hz (48,000 for movies). The highest frequencies of 16,000-20,000 hz are sampled at 2-3 times per wave, at normal notes much more than that. The speaker /amp itself, due to inaccuracy and inductance, smooths that wave out. Square waves are distinct, and even then, your analog magnets in the speaker cannot truly put out a square wave!
The idea is that so long as the sample rate is twice the highest frequency, we won't lose any of the information.
But as we know about tapes and vinyl, those formats definitely strip away some of the high frequencies, and it's not really a big deal. It's not those extremely high frequencies that are important here!
What's important is all of the nuances in the travel of the waveform as it primarily constructs what *sounds like* the frequencies we hear even as the instrument is playing live, or the singer is singing, but is in reality much more than that.
The additional content in the waveform is not a matter of the fundamental pitches of the notes, or even the first few harmonics that are still in the audio spectrum.
Although we cannot measure it, there is all kinds of additional information there, relating to some rather complex equations involving audio acoustics of the room, the ability of a given sound source to generate subharmonics or harmonics that go way past the threshold of hearing, and all of the distortions introduced to the sound.
goyacobol said:
I have wondered about the relationship of analog to digital (if they do?). If digital sound doesn't really reach our ears as pure digital due to inductance it comes out as an incomplete or less complete analog version of the original? :/ I have also thought of this in terms of pixelization in graphics where jagged edges are more obvious as anti-aliasing due to lower resolution/information/data. It seems that more information equates to approaching true analog. I have been thinking about it for awhile.
Goyacobol, as the C's hint towards, digital synthesis for its own sake is a completely different ballgame than trying to capture analog sounds digitally, and then play them back saying it's the same thing.
It's true that old digital chips like 8-bit synthesizers made a very "jagged sounding" kind of sound, which was in fact kind of endearing and is for many people nostalgic.
But there is also something powerful in the capabilities of advanced digital synthesizers that sets them apart from even the best analog synthesizers. More so, the capabilities of digital graphics, which have much less of a crossing-over Venn diagram with what we can see in real life than digital sound has with analog sound.
Taking from what the C's have suggested regarding the matter, confirming a long held hypothesis that should have been easier not to doubt, it should be possible to provide some extremely convincing evidence that this is true.
There is a real purpose for mastering media creation across both the analog and digital domains... exclusively one or the other when it makes sense, and combining them when it makes sense. Not wasting time (or harming ourselves) crossing from one to the other when it does not make sense.
Crystals, for example, could be charged to a great capacity if positioned at the center of a room of particular physical proportions matching the resonant frequency of that crystal, and then irradiated with sound of wavelengths proportionate to the dimensions of the room (and various ratios), lightwaves of color wavelengths also proportionate, and mechanical vibrations (like the ones produced by subwoofers) that were proportionate as well.
These irradiation sequences could hypothetically wind up making use of fibonacci sequence to tune the harmonics over time intervals as well, or Phi for speaker and light source placement relative to the center.
More importantly:
Cleo said:
Hi all, read an interesting article several weeks back about quartz crystals and the mention of phi in this thread made me think of this part:
http://www.kacha-stones.com/science_or_magic.htm said:
Quartz embodies an architectural and mathematical perfection based on the golden proportion, phi, Ф... Just like the Great Pyramids. The tips of all quartz crystals are angled exactly like the Great Pyramid at 360/7 or 5l.43 degrees.
Another interesting part about how quartz crystal might structure energy:
http://www.kacha-stones.com/science_or_magic.htm said:
The electronics industry does not use quartz because it is pretty, but because it structures energy precisely, in is this case, electricity. The natural tendency of quartz is for harmony.
Restructuring the physical and subtle bodies, usually needed due to everything from the air we breath to the water we drink, is now recognized in many alternative therapies as a prerequisite for optimal health. The University of Georgia found that in every human body, all diseased cells (no matter what the disease), were surrounded by what is called "unstructured" water. And they also found that every healthy cell was surrounded by structured water.
Quartz structures water and other energies naturally, as well as amplifying those energies by the principle of resonance. Kirlian photography has shown that merely holding double terminated quartz crystal can double the measurable electro-magnetic fields of the body.
This would be a potent enough method in order to get measurable results in order to have proof. The highly structured state of the quartz crystal can then act as a medium to benefit the individual who possesses it, bringing their biostate into far greater internal alignment.
Now if misaligned humans were to go directly into the room mentioned above, it might actually be too much for them. Either the intensity of the irradiation would have to be lessened (making it more benign), or the crystal can be used to bring them into better alignment over extended periods of time more gradually.
If fully aligned humans were to go in? Well, the design of higher states of consciousness using reproducible scientific approaches would have dramatic consequences on the path that mankind took thereafter, because finally everyone would be forced to believe in it... knowing the difference between when it works, and when it doesn't, and the science behind it. These higher states can be verified by biofeedback sensors such as the EEG, EMG, and EKG.
All a matter of pervasive laws of wave physics that have been sadly ignored by mainstream science especially since 1927 after the 2nd Solvay Conference. I felt badly for de Broglie, Bohm, John Keely, the victims of the herd of scientists being pulled in a very strong way in the direction of particle physics.
We had advanced so far in one aspect of physics while nearly completely neglecting the other.