Session 941005 October 5, 1994 F** and Laura
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Q: (L) What gifts did the magi/prophets bring to Jesus as a baby?
A: Gold; spices; clothing.
Q: (L) What other realm did the mother ship come from that was sighted by the magi?
A: 5th density.
Q: (L) And what was the purpose of the appearance of this mother ship at the time of the birth of Jesus?
A: Too vague.
Q: (L) Was it here for specific purposes relating to the birth of Jesus?
A: To lead the prophets.
Q: (L) Was that the main purpose?
A: No. Also observation of event and encoding.
Q: (L) Encoding of what?
A: Infant.
Q: (L) Was that encoding done physically or telepathically?
A: Both.
Q: (L) What realm or area did Jesus come from before he was born into the earth in the body of Jesus of Nazareth?
A: 5th density.
Q: (L) He was a fifth density soul?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Had he had any other incarnations in other human bodies on planet earth?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many incarnations did he have before he achieved fifth density?
A: 1009.
Q: (L) Was Melchizidek an incarnation of Jesus?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was Joshua, the right hand man of Moses an incarnation of Jesus?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there any other incarnations of Jesus with which we would be familiar if you were to name them?
A: Yes. Socrates.
Session 981003 October 3, 1998
Q: (L) In doing this bloodline tracking, I came across this fellow who was the Gallo-Roman Senator named Tonantius Ferreolus. Is this individual descended from Jesus/ Jesinavarah?
A: This is certainly a possibility.
Q: (L) You said that Jesinavarah had three children with three Roman women. I never asked if they were male or female children. Were they male or female?
A: Vella? What would you suppose?
Q: (L) The names Vella, Rafae and Alicia were given as the names of the three women who were the mothers. Was I mistaken and did I garble it when it was really the names of the children?
A: Sometimes, one follows another.
Q: (L) What were the names of the children of Jesus?
A: You have the clues, and your quest has been admirable so far, why stop now?
Q: (L) So, I will find them! Okay.
A: Could be like the Holy Grail.
Q: (L) What could be like the Holy Grail?
A: Chalice.
Q: (L) What does the chalice represent?
A: What is its root?
Q: (L) Okay, why are dogs represented in the Egyptian mythology as the 'opener of the way?'
A: Guards, guides.
Q: (L) The passages attributed to Jesus in Matthew 24 and Luke 21, where Jesus predicts the end of the age and his return, is that fairly accurately rendered?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Is Jesus, in fact, in a state of suspension, voluntarily, in another plane of existence, having chosen to give up his life on this plane in order to continuously generate replications of his soul pattern for other people to call upon for assistance?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) If one calls upon him more than once, does one get a double dose?
A: Define.
Q: (L) If one repeatedly calls upon Jesus does one get repeated replications or additional strength, power or whatever?
A: No.
Q: (L) In other words, once one has truly made the connection, that's it?
A: That's all that's needed.
Q: (L) Has any other soul volunteered to perform this work?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many souls are doing this work at the present time?
A: 12.
Q: (L) Can you name any of the others?
A: Bhudda. Moses. Shintanhilmoon. Nagaillikiga. Varying degrees; Jesus is the strongest currently.
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Q: (L) There was no crucifixion, there was no resurrection after three days, is that correct?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Okay, what is the truth on that matter?
A: Left earth plane on ship after extended sleep state.
Q: (L) When did he go into this sleep state? Did he just go in one day and go to bed and go to sleep and then a ship came and picked him up?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So he appeared to his followers to have died?
A: They thought this.
Q: (L) Did he get up and say anything to anybody before he left on the ship?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did he come back to life...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And then he told them things he had seen in his extended meditative sleep, is that what happened?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Okay, what happened?
A: Told prophecies then proclaimed eventual return.
Q: (L) Was this information he got during this period of extended sleep?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How long was he asleep, or in this state of semi- death?
A: 98 hours.
Q: (L) And then, a ship arrived and took him away, is that correct?
A: Yes. Upon pillar of light.
Q: (L) Are there any other miracles he did that are outstanding?
A: Miracles are subjective.
Q: (L) Did he raise Lazarus from the dead?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did he raise anybody from the dead?
A: No.
Q: (L) Okay, when he got to this other plane, what did he do?
A: Vague question.
Q: (L) Is there any special power or advantage in praying in the name of Jesus?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, if he didn't die and release his spirit into the earth plane, how is this power conferred?
A: Prayers go to him.
Q: (L) And what does he do when he hears the prayers?
A: Determines their necessity against background of individual soul development.
Q: (L) You said that when a person prays to Jesus that he makes some sort of a decision, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, how can he do that when millions of people are praying to him simultaneously?
A: Soul division.
Q: (L) What do you mean by soul division?
A: Self explanatory.
Q: (L) Do you mean soul division as in cellular meiosis where a cell splits and replicates itself?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does Jesus' soul divide?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many times does it divide?
A: Endlessly as a projection of consciousness.
Q: (L) And what happens to this piece of soul that is divided or projected?
A: Is not a piece of a soul.
Q: (L) What is it?
A: It is a replication.
Q: (L) Is each replication exactly identical to the original?
A: Yes. And no.
Q: (L) In what way is the replicated soul different from the original?
A: Not able to give individual attention.
Q: (L) Are any of us able to replicate in this manner if we so desire?
A: Could if in same circumstance. The way the process works is thus: When Jesus left the earth plane, he went into another dimension or density of reality, whereupon all "rules" regarding the awareness of time and space are entirely different from the way they are perceived here. At this point in space time his soul which was/is still in the physical realm, was placed in a state of something akin to suspended animation and a sort of advanced form of unconsciousness. From that point to the present his soul has been replicated from a state of this unconsciousness in order that all who call upon him or need to be with him or need to speak to him can do so on an individual basis. His soul can be replicated ad infinitum--as many times as needed. The replication process produces a state of hyper- consciousness in each and every version of the soul consciousness.
Session 980418 April 18, 1998
[..](L) I was reading some blurbs about Jesus on a mailing list. There are a lot of different ideas flying around. I realize that, in an earlier session, we asked about Jesus and you gave us a particular set of answers. I also know that you gave us a 'noise to signal' ratio about the accuracy of the information and how this relates to free will, and the problems of interference from various persons who are present have all been addressed. So, all things being considered, when we originally asked the questions about Jesus, I had the feeling that there was a lot of emotion weighing on those answers. Is that correct?
A: Maybe.
Q: Were the answers and information given about Jesus accurate?
A: Mostly.
Q: So, you are saying that a man named Jesinavarah lived in Palestine at about that period, was a teacher, achieved Christhood, and was taken up into a UFO and is in another dimensional time warp doing some kind of work... is that the case?
A: Yes. Replicated consciousness.
Q: And you also said something about Christ returning. Is that also true?
A: Discover.
Laura said:Anthony said:Perhaps the reason their appearance changed is not because they were soulless
but precisely because they had a soul and were going against its potential, against their essence.
They were merely being used as tools as Reed mentions.
I think it's possible. Or it could be a case of a psychopath meeting a bigger psychopath.
I don't know. It's an interesting question.
Laura said:SeekinTruth said:Anthony said:Does anyone remember how Douglas Reed described American presidents when they were
about to retire after serving the Zionist aka psychopath agenda most of their lives?
Yeah, that's what I thought of too reading that part of the discussion.
I vaguely remember it too. Can somebody find the passage? I think those images of Bush and Blair were utterly shocking. Funny that the same drastic decline does not seem to have happened to Putin. He's aged some, naturally, but he seems to have aged quite well.
Once more the generations were passing, but the lengthening shadow of Zionism fell more heavily on each new one. Sir Winston Churchill, his powers at last failing, relinquished his post to the man on whom he had already bestowed it in the manner of a potentate determining the succession: “I take no step in public life without consulting Mr. Eden; he will carry on the torch of Conservatism when other and older hands have let it fall.” That being the case, Sir Anthony presumably inherited Sir Winston’s unqualified support for “the fulfilment of the aspirations of Zionism” and might well have wished the torch in other hands, for it could only ruin, not illumine “Conservatism,” and England. From the moment when he reached the office for which all his life had prepared him his administration of it was bedevilled by “the problem of the Middle East,” so that his political end seemed likely to be as unhappy as that of Mr. Roosevelt and Mr. Woodrow Wilson.
And, the scribe might add, that of President Eisenhower. In September 1955 he was stricken down, and although he recovered the pictures of him began to show the traits which appeared in those of Messrs. Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson towards the end of their terms. The “pressure” which these apparently powerful men have to endure in this, “the Jewish century,” seems to have some effect which shows in a careworn physiognomy. They are surrounded by the praisemakers, but if they try to follow conscience and duty they are relentlessly brought to book. After his first experience the general expectation was that he would not run a second time.
Reed, Douglas (2012-09-02). The Controversy of Zion (Kindle Locations 16083-16087).
When Mr. Roosevelt had been president two years his party manager, Mr. James Farley, wrote, “The President looked bad … face drawn and his reactions slow” (1935), and two years later he was “shocked at the President’s appearance” (1937). In 1943 Madame Chiang Kai-shek was “shocked by the President’s looks”; in 1944, says Mr. Merriman Smith, “he looked older than I have ever seen him and he made an irrelevant speech,” and Mr. John T. Flynn says the President’s pictures “shocked the nation.” In 1945 Miss Frances Perkins, a member of his cabinet, emerged from his office saying, “I can’t stand it, the President looks horrible.”
Reed, Douglas (2012-09-02). The Controversy of Zion (Kindle Locations 7441-7446).
seek10 said:Laura said:Session Date: September 7th 2013
Laura, Ark, Belibaste, Perceval, Andromeda, Kniall, PoB, Atriedes, Ailen, Mr. Scott
Q: (Kniall) Are the Russians really trying to stop this?
A: At the moment.
Q: (Perceval)So...
A: Putin is also not so heartless.
Does it mean russia will turn around for what ever the reason it is ?. Remainds of this C's quote.
(L) Oh yeah, what's the deal with {name redacted}? That's a good question. Now, what has come to my attention is that all the time that I was communicating sincerely to {name redacted}, she was basically sticking knives in my back and saying all kinds of nasty things about me and every member of my family, my work, everything. It was profoundly disappointing and very hurtful to learn this. So, I just really want to know what the deal is there?
A: We said that her heart was enveloped in a cloud.
Q: (L) What is this cloud?
A: She chooses lies to her own detriment.
Q: (L) I just wanted to try to be a friend but it seems that everything she was saying to me was all lies and perception management. But she obviously does have some little bit of psychic ability - a little bit at least, yes?
A: A little. About the same as Cherie.
Q: (Ailen) She can sense storms coming! (Belibaste)Why did you think she had psychic abilities? (L) Because she said that there was somebody in the group who was "evil", and it was {name redacted}. She was right about that, just wrong about who it was. (Ailen) Yeah, but it wasn't a psychopath like she said. And come on... What's the likelihood of somebody in the group going whacko in the next two months? (L) So in other words, about as good as Cherie. I just want ya’ll to know that my Cherie is a wonder dog!
Ailén said:I wonder, are the Cs saying that people who believe in lies lose their psychic abilities if they ever had them, or they didn't have them to begin with? Or they had them but in a limited way? Dogs are loyal and friendly, and they guard people, and this person is obviously pretty much the contrary. So what's the deal with the comparison apart from meaning that her "psychic abilites" are not good? Why would they compare this person to Cherie? Maybe I'm reading too much into it...
Ailén said:I wonder, are the Cs saying that people who believe in lies lose their psychic abilities if they ever had them, or they didn't have them to begin with? Or they had them but in a limited way? Dogs are loyal and friendly, and they guard people, and this person is obviously pretty much the contrary. So what's the deal with the comparison apart from meaning that her "psychic abilites" are not good? Why would they compare this person to Cherie? Maybe I'm reading too much into it...
Mr. Scott said:I also wondered about what the C's said about NR's abilities... The thing with dogs is that they often do appear to be psychic, and I think often they are - possibly moreso than humans in some instances. But, at the same time, they have a whole different perception of the world than we do. Their sight is different, their hearing is better, their sense of smell is WAAAAY better than ours, etc. I also read something recently about dogs and electric fields, or something like that... Dunno, can't find it now... So, when I think about all that, sometimes I wonder if our Little Furry Friends are simply perceiving things we normally don't with their normal senses, and then something happens, and then we go, "Oh, the dog is psychic!"
Well, sometimes I still think they ARE psychic, but the point is that I wonder if NR is the type of person where things are perceived so differently that they "pick up" on things and then must run around like crazy trying to warn others about these perceived "threats".
Ailén said:So what's the deal with the comparison apart from meaning that her "psychic abilites" are not good?
Approaching Infinity said:So a human could conceivable have some psi abilities, but totally misinterpret them according to their own skewed emotions and unconscious purposes. Kind of like our dog here, who thinks every meal is for him. A human might have some psi ability but interpret everything through their own subjective lens.