Session 7 September 2013

[RAJAWANG]

Thank you for excellent session post, expedient and intriguing, as always

 

[Alana]

Does anyone remember how Douglas Reed described American presidents when they were
about to retire after serving the Zionist aka psychopath agenda most of their lives?

Yeah, that's what I thought of too reading that part of the discussion.

I vaguely remember it too. Can somebody find the passage?

I remember something about it too. Searching, I found these quotes:

Mr. House [political advisor to president Wilson, and trying to promote the Zionist agenda into Us politics through the president] later wrote of the man he had "chosen" and had elected ("the only one who in every way measured up to the office"), "I thought at that time" (1914) "and on several occasions afterwards, that the President wanted to die; certainly his attitude and his mental state indicated that he found no zest in life". When Mr. Wilson had not long been president Sir Horace Plunkett, the British Ambassador, wrote to Mr. House, "I paid my respects to the President, and was shocked to see him looking so worn; the change since January last is terribly marked". Six years later Sir William Wiseman, a British governmental emissary, told Mr, House, "I was shocked by his appearance . . . His face was drawn and of a grey colour, and frequently twitching in a pitiful effort to control nerves which had broken down" (1919)*.



* Strong resemblances occur in contemporary descriptions of Mr. Roosevelt, whom Mr. House also believed that he chose as a "figurehead". Mr. Robert E. Sherwood says with emphasis that Mr. Roosevelt was ever haunted "by the ghost of Wilson", When Mr, Roosevelt had been president two years his party manager, Mr. James Farley, wrote, "The President looked bad. . . face drawn and his reactions slow" (1935), and two years later he was "shocked at the President's appearance" (1937). In 1943 Madame Chiang Kai-shek was "shocked by the President's looks"; in 1944, says Mr. Merriman Smith, "he looked older than I have ever seen him and he made an irrelevant speech", and Mr. John T. Flynn says the President's pictures "shocked the nation". In 1945 Miss Frances Perkins, a member of his cabinet, emerged from his office saying, "I can't stand it, the President looks horrible".

There's also this:

The illusions of power were dissolving. These men [presidents/PMs/political figures] were never truly powerful, because they acted as the instruments of others. They already look wraithlike in the annals, and if the squares and boulevards named after them still bear their names, few remember who they were. Mr. Wilson returned to America and soon died. Mr. House before long was lonely and forgotten in the apartment in East 35th Street. Mr. Lloyd George found himself in the political wilderness and was only able to complete the ruin of a once-great Liberal party; within a decade he found himself at the head of four followers. Mr. Balfour, for a few more years, absent-mindedly haunted Saint James's Park.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Yup, those were some of the excerpts I was thinking of - thanks for finding and posting those, Alana. Reed also mentioned even Theodor Herzl (the "founder" of Political Zionism) was used and "thrown away" in a similar way.

 

[Pierre]

Does anyone remember how Douglas Reed described American presidents when they were
about to retire after serving the Zionist aka psychopath agenda most of their lives?

There is also the case of Sarkozy. Here is a picture taken in 2007 just before his election. He's 52 years old.

and here is another one taken in 2013. He's 59 years old. There is only 6 years between those two pictures.

I also remember being struck by how quickly Lyndon B. Johnson aged at the end of his political life. Here is a first picture taken during his presidential mandate (1966). Johnson is 58 y.o.

and here is a picture taken 6 years later in 1972 (he's 64 y.o.)

Of course, depending on the lights, the expression, the clothes, the make up etc. one looks much younger on some pictures, much older on others. One day we look fine and the day after we look awful because we had a bad night, caught a flue, etc. Also serious diseases can dramatically accelerate the aging process.

But can those factors account for this much aging in 6 years? In particular something in the eyes of those two people seems to have died during this time interval.

 

[loreta]

There's also this:

The illusions of power were dissolving. These men [presidents/PMs/political figures] were never truly powerful, because they acted as the instruments of others. They already look wraithlike in the annals, and if the squares and boulevards named after them still bear their names, few remember who they were. Mr. Wilson returned to America and soon died. Mr. House before long was lonely and forgotten in the apartment in East 35th Street. Mr. Lloyd George found himself in the political wilderness and was only able to complete the ruin of a once-great Liberal party; within a decade he found himself at the head of four followers. Mr. Balfour, for a few more years, absent-mindedly haunted Saint James's Park.

Extremely,extremely interesting thought and also in some part, right. These men became almost invisible to humanity, almost soulless. The price that the devil ask is always your soul.

 

[Anthony]

Perhaps the reason their appearance changed is not because they were soulless
but precisely because they had a soul and were going against its potential, against their essence.
They were merely being used as tools as Reed mentions.

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

Just recently I was wondering the same about Obama:

In 2008:

In 2013 (he looks like he has not slept for years):

 

[no-mans-land]

Thank you for sharing this interesting session with us.
The pictures of Bush, Blair and Obama really are shocking. Seems like something sucked out their life quite rapid.

 

[curious_richard]

In 2013 (he looks like he has not slept for years):

He makes me think of the character "Gus Fring", from the series "Breaking Bad".

 

[loreta]

Just recently I was wondering the same about Obama:

In 2008:

In 2013 (he looks like he has not slept for years):

In fact these men look like victims of a vampire: anemic. I am not talking about movie vampires.

 

[Cosmos]

Perhaps the reason their appearance changed is not because they were soulless
but precisely because they had a soul and were going against its potential, against their essence.
They were merely being used as tools as Reed mentions.

Well I don't think that this necessarily has to be the case.
Maybe Psychopathy and "soullessness" in general, is destructive to a body because it is in a way "anti live"?

Very interesting to see those people age so rapidly in such a short period of time. Bush, Blair and Obama just seem to have aged quite dramatically as soon as they could express and inflict their "soulless" behaviour on a much larger scale... And maybe that is the key?

And yes Putin doesn't seem to have aged all that much in the time he was/is at power.

Can we find other examples? intriguing indeed...
What about Hillary and Bill Glinton or Henry Kissinger or etc...

 

[loreta]

La madame Merkel:

2008 and 2013

 

[loreta]

Mister David Cameron:
2008/2013

 

[Carl]

Can we find other examples? intriguing indeed...
What about Hillary and Bill Glinton or Henry Kissinger or etc...

H.C. 2008

2013:

 

[Laura]

Perhaps the reason their appearance changed is not because they were soulless
but precisely because they had a soul and were going against its potential, against their essence.
They were merely being used as tools as Reed mentions.

I think it's possible. Or it could be a case of a psychopath meeting a bigger psychopath.

I don't know. It's an interesting question.