Should we burn the Bible?

If the bible (and others) didn't exist, someone has to invent it. What should be changed is people's mentality, and knowldge.
If people start using their brain, even with thousands of bibles they will look at them as they are : criminal fairy tales; and they will stop believing like sheep. What people need is to use their brains and stop believing. Burining books do not help since they will believe in any other stupidity and the result will be the same.
So the solution is knowledge.
 
Djewlew
Maybe an eventual 'solution' takes to learn, study, progress, search, get knowledge about the 'reality' (if the Bible contained far to many weird aspects to explain reality).
When you have been told to grow, it may not have been because were young, but because one can grow in knowledge at anytime.
You could start studying psychopathy...
 
mkrnhr said:
If the bible (and others) didn't exist, someone has to invent it. What should be changed is people's mentality, and knowldge.
If people start using their brain, even with thousands of bibles they will look at them as they are : criminal fairy tales; and they will stop believing like sheep. What people need is to use their brains and stop believing. Burining books do not help since they will believe in any other stupidity and the result will be the same.
So the solution is knowledge.

Of course! Salvation by knowledge, as the Gnostics taught.
The solution is indeed to know where the truth is hiding.
However, most religious bendings insist that you need to SWITCH OFF your own brain and use the one of another person!
That's the biggest robbery in the universe.
You [rhetorically/subjectively] arrive here demanding that I stop using my own reason faculty and replace it with your one.
And if I fall for the crime you might then call yourself a philosopher... trying to help the world know the truth!
It is weird, my friend; a weird world of philosophies.
 
sankara said:
Djewlew
Maybe an eventual 'solution' takes to learn, study, progress, search, get knowledge about the 'reality' (if the Bible contained far to many weird aspects to explain reality).
When you have been told to grow, it may not have been because were young, but because one can grow in knowledge at anytime.
You could start studying psychopathy...
Well, thanks for the suggestion. Why not? Studying and learning is what I like the most. Studied the Bible for decades, and read ALL the commentaries, including the Institutes of deranged Calvin, and more. Result: the Bible is not the book of God but a weapon of Man! And now, that I have arrived at that solid and final conclusion, what do you think I should do?
 
djewlew said:
You [rhetorically/subjectively] arrive here demanding that I stop using my own reason faculty and replace it with your one.

Hi djewlew,

No one is asking you to stop using your brain, on the contrary, we encourage people to use properly their brain.

But what we are asking you is to get familiar with the way this forum works. And to help you to achieve that, you should read some of the recommended books.

Have you read "The Secret History of the World" by Laura Knight-Jadczyk?

Have you read those articles, if not, i invite you to read those and the links included in those artilces.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/Laura-Knight-Jadczyk/fastest_growing_cult.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/Laura-Knight-Jadczyk/lost_gospel.htm
 
Bohort (Namaste) said:
djewlew said:
You [rhetorically/subjectively] arrive here demanding that I stop using my own reason faculty and replace it with your one.

Hi djewlew,

No one is asking you to stop using your brain, on the contrary, we encourage people to use properly their brain.

But what we are asking you is to get familiar with the way this forum works. And to help you to achieve that, you should read some of the recommended books.
OK, thanks for suggesting reading. I like reading books, and have read thousands over the decades of my life. Have shelves here full of books! But if an interested party has to read SEVERAL books to then apply for membership here, my goodness, how many members would you get in a year?!... Just kidding. I will surely read some of that stuff, thanks.
 
No one here would dispute that the bible is not the word of God or that it has been used as a weapon.

What is of concern is that you continuously incite to action people you believe to be unknowing of the truth which you’ve made clear here. This is manipulation - pure and simple, and intolerable.

what do you think I should do?

Have a heart.
 
djewlew said:
[ But if an interested party has to read SEVERAL books to then apply for membership here, my goodness, how many members would you get in a year?!... Just kidding. I will surely read some of that stuff, thanks.

You see, this forum is not a chat forum and if you have read the forum guidelines, you should know by now that the goal of this forum is very specific. So we know that we wont have a lot of members.

The new members of this forum who want to participate and go in the same way as the objectives of this forum will be willing to read some of these recommended books. And if they are not at ease with that, they will leave and find another forum which will fit more their needs.
 
MC said:
Have a heart.
MC thank you a lot! This is an answer I would like to put in front of my eyes as a reminder. Simple, straightforward and so true! It really moved me.

djewlew why do you continue to ignore all what you've been told about this forum and its goal?
 
djewlew said:
OK, thanks for suggesting reading. I like reading books, and have read thousands over the decades of my life. Have shelves here full of books! But if an interested party has to read SEVERAL books to then apply for membership here, my goodness, how many members would you get in a year?!... Just kidding. I will surely read some of that stuff, thanks.

It's not really per se about having to read several books to then apply for membership here, I for one have been a member here for more than a year and have been active for some time at casschat before and I have only read pieces from some books and have studied them for several periods but have not really finished reading any of them and now I'm busy just doing that.

The thing is, one can read thousands of books, but if you don't apply it in some way, I'm not sure if it's going to benefit you at all, especially when you think that you know yourself.

Again, it's not really about reading the books that much, it's imo, more about being sincere, for example in what you search here. Do you search for truth? Well then maybe this could be a way to the truth, I'm not sure. For all of us to figure this out, right? Do you search a place to just share opinions and chat a little about this and that, well I'm not sure that's really what we do here. We try to keep on searching and connecting and especially Work on ourselves. Only then we can think about other things, such as ''the truth'' or how we can help others best, our first goal, imo, should be to help ourselves first.

And the recommended books give us a base to work on, we need something to work on, otherwise we'll only base our ''opinions'' and thoughts on air. We read, we apply and we try to connect it to other things we read and then apply and so much more.

Yes, the Bible has caused quite many things, hasn't it? But that's I guess what a 3d STS world looks like. It's part of it I guess. And loving God for what God is, is to be able to look at all God's faces, including the ugly ones. And I'm not sure, if burning them, would help at all. There are other ways to show people that they can choose. But, again, before we can try to help others, maybe we should first help ourselves.

This might sound all strange to you and that's why you might be a bit confused, which is okay, and which is why some members have advised you to read some first, so that you may have an idea on what we do here. And if you are sincere, I don't think that would be a problem. After all, reading is fun, especially if you can use the information or knowledge to help yourself and eventually perhaps also others.

(Just to give you a different perspective. There are also some good things about the Bible (could be wrong on this one), but I remember how for example prisoners or other people keep themselves strong, when they're going through difficult times, by having a Bible or reading it. How their faith keeps them strong.
Somehow I find that fascinating.)
 
djewlew, if you haven't taken the time to read the forum rules in their entirety, did you at least read
this post in the thread that welcomes you to the forum?


djewlew said:
Studied the Bible for decades, and read ALL the commentaries, including the Institutes of deranged Calvin, and more. Result: the Bible is not the book of God but a weapon of Man! And now, that I have arrived at that solid and final conclusion, what do you think I should do?


How about joining us in the Eíriú-Eolas - Breathing/Meditation Program? Maybe you can burn the bible symbolically in your heart, experiencing and releasing the anger and eventually seeing the salt of your tears as the ashes of the fire? Sounds to me like you may need some time to heal.

Apologies if that sounds too mystical, or whatever, it's just what I think I'm seeing here. :)
 
mkrnhr said:
MC said:
Have a heart.
MC thank you a lot! This is an answer I would like to put in front of my eyes as a reminder. Simple, straightforward and so true! It really moved me.

djewlew why do you continue to ignore all what you've been told about this forum and its goal?
OK, I'm sorry. I feel like I must leave.
 
OK, I'm sorry. I feel like I must leave.

You put a lot of stock into your feelings, djewlew. From all the evidence, your feelings run your life for you. You are their slave.

You have been given some very, VERY simple requests that run along the lines of, "welcome to our forum. If you want to know why it exists, please read A, B and C."

At this stage, let me tell you how it looks when you say you want to leave. It LOOKS like you came here to troll, and stir up the members into emotion fuelled debates. Now you've seen that the members, as a community tied together by a bond of truth, can't be affected by that type of behaviour, you want to leave; you failed.

The alternative is that you've received a shock: you've seen yourself in a mirror and you don't like what you see and you want to cover your eyes and hide.

Just imagine not doing that. What if you just read some of the things that have been recommended. What if you learned something you never imagined; something important?
 

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