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SeekinTruth said:GregP507 said:Not sure that I'd agree that the paleolithic diet was the healthy ideal for human kind. I believe that analyses of bone and teeth from that time often reveal various types of malnutrition. I'd say we are adapted to utilize a wide variety of food sources to be able to survive on whatever is available, but I wouldn't expect that our diet was at most times in the stone age, ideal. According to Malthus, natural populations are governed by the availability of food resources which are often scarce, as part of the population dynamic.
Many nutritionists believe that the Mediterranean diet is nearest the ideal, which consists of a balance of fruits, vegetables, moderate amounts of red and white meats, and foods made from cereal grains. This evolved after the agricultural revolution, which gave us a greater degree of choice in our foods. Since that time, we have learned much about our own dietary requirements and have augmented our diets with many types of supplements, such as foods with vitamin C to eliminate scurvy.
You may want to read the Life Without Bread and Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation? threads. Also do a search on SOTT for the problems with grains and dairy and carbohydrates in general. You'll see just how much REAL data there is for grain and dairy free, low carb, high animal fat diet being the best. Even those hunter-gatherer societies that survived (not too many left now, as they've been systematically eliminated for thousands of years by the agricultural, hierarchical societies) have been studied extensively, and all the non-corrupted science (not influenced by Big Agra, Big Pharma, and food industry corporations) shows the same thing. Check out the story of Weston A. Price, too. And you should look into the fossil record of hunter-gathers from the Paleolithic period compared to the settled agriculturalists of the Neolithic and see what happened to bones, teeth, general health, stature, brain size, "the diseases of civilization," etc., in just a few generations. And that's not even controversial. Any good "bone specialist" will tell you from looking at the teeth first and bones generally if the remains are from hunter-gatherers or agriculturalists.
Since the government recommendations of high carb, high grain, low fat diets with vegetable and seed oils encouraged and animal fat discouraged, every "disease of civilization" skyrocketed and so did the "obesity epidemic." There are also very good books recommended in the two threads (including Nora Gedgaudas' Primal Body, Primal Mind) and elsewhere on the forum. It is a huge amount of material to read, but if you really want to understand the real science and not the corrupt mass media promulgated propaganda, it's really worth it.
Of course, many of the modern foods and their processing have their share of problems, but that doesn't make everything unmodern automatically better. That's the general implication I was challenging. As our knowledge evolves, we are turning back to more natural foods, but that doesn't make a purely stone age diet the perfect ideal.