For all you Thunderbolt (TB) fans, (Walter Thornhill and David Talbott) here is a statement from Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers. It is presented in video format on the members/subscribers' Deeper Look section.
Rather than linking the video/site here, since it is for subscribers only, I took the time to transcribe it because it should give you pause about the Thunderbolt Projects theories and the sound science being tethered to them.
Dated June 16, 2019 Titled "A Terrible Rabbit Hole"
Opening screenshot: "They cheated Billy Yelverton, Peratt and myself. They lied. Their funding requires their adherence to the past despite new evidence"
Ben: "Hey folks, here's a rabbit hole to the max and it's not going to be a fun one. Someone posted a comment yesterday following a youtube video about the Lucifer Publishing Company.... In the early 1920's they put out 24 books of the arcane nature, and I found out that that existed for a few years and then they changed their name to the Lucius Publishing company probably a good name on their part, they then later became The Lucis Trust.
Today the Lucis Trust is world wide, well funded, invocational[sic], somewhat exclusive and they have their hands in it all the way to the UN. They are a recognized NGO and they influence a number of activities there, most notably related to sustainability, code for Agenda 21. As with all things like this it is veiled in something entirely benign and good. They describe global community service, sacrifice, and their website even has kind words on Jesus Christ. It's the sort of thing you see on the surface of all these types of organizations, but a global communtiy of what? service and sacrifice to what? or whom?
The publishing company, and later named iterations, were founded and run by Alice Bailey until her death in the 40's. Alice Bailey was an unquestioned appreciater of Lucifer and numerous accounts of anti-semitic discourse and principles ran through her organization. It is said that at their invocations the Jews were identified as the great problem to be irradicated. So how Luciferian is this group, how anti-semitic and how well would that work in today's power structure of the globe, or is that what the nice friendly-to-Jesus Christ veil is for?
How influential are they at the UN and it's long reaching arm into the nations of the world. Good questions. But again, someone just dropped the name yesterday, this is as far as I've gotten on the UN topic. Would love some help there.
This is not the worst of the news on this rabbit hole. So It sould be no secret by now that I am done with the Thunderbolts. I have watched them cheat others and I ignored it because I thought the science was on point. And to a degree it is. But it's not theirs! WHat they claim as thier paradigm is that of Birkland, Alfaign[sp?] and of Anthony Peratt and the Plasma Universe. And while Peratt is repeatedly used by the Thunderbolts(TB) as evidence in support of their theory, Peratt, himself denies this.[!] Claims it as a solar catastrophe. He sent David Talbott those images in private, and in confidence, told him he wanted a chance to publish it himself. He was betrayed, used and lied about. For example, when it became clear that Suspicious Observers were going to be something the TB wanted to scoop up I was initially open to the concept, heck I spoke at four straight EU conferences. But every time I suggested that I or we reach back out to Peratt It was a very hard and stern line from them: "he is very busy, he doesn't want to engage with the community at large, he just wants to speak to US." In reality, they just didn't want me finding out the truth Peratt hadn't spoke to Dave in years since he had been betrayed. And he in no way supports the mutated version they call EU as being anything unique or different than the plasma universe. What the TB have done is capitalize on Los Alamos national lab telling Peratt he needed to stay low and keep a bit more quiet. They saw their opportunity to be seized. They trademarked the term EU, which is not only a crappy thing to do but it made it so NASA and universities could never get on board with it... not without trademark law discussions that those organizations i promise,will avoid like the plague. They doomed their own cause to obscurity. They did it via their own greed and they did it for something they knew they could steal.
So what the heck does this have to with the first part of the video? Well, it is well known there is a certain aura of sin at previous EU conferences.... it is said that open relations were a thing there and without getting too personal about anyone in particular, I know some of the most inside individuals have some very peculiar and unorthodox ideas about love, marriage, responsibility and loyalty. I kind of found it disgusting actually, but as i said, I figured perhaps even the right track isn't peachy and clean. Well, you can say that again. Straight up. They all made it very clear that the work of Alice Bailey was like a bible to them, especially her third in the 7 ray series, a Treatise on Cosmic Fire. For some of them it's basically a spiritual holy book. I read it, it was interesting, but just a reiteration of things I'd heard before, or already knew intuitively and indeed containing some parts that were interpretively questionable. But I didn't know who Alice Bailey was. When I saw Alice Bailey's name on the Lucifer publishing company, literally, six years of clues and questions and doubts and evidence surrounding the TB came crashing in to view. Again, this is just yesterday I found this. I literally have got hundreds of examples of their trickery and thievery and refusal to bend the facts and logic in favor of ego and support of their story. But i ignored it. Now do i think Talbot and Thornhill eat babies? No. Did i ignore my own gut in sticking with them for years? Yes. To be honest they wreak of sleaze, both of them and I just ignored it because i wanted to. Peratt and John McGovern, who you might recall did the underground tunnel research for the catastrophe cycle and has published numerous times with Peratt. Both questioned the death of their friend on the day he arrived in Australia to check Wal Thornhill's academic credentials; he was found at the bottom of a river.
They used to call him Dr Thornhill, not anymore.
Nobody in the last five years has spread the TB popularity like I have and I have some serious karma to pay for that one, but it begins by doing the right thing. This is a plasma universe. The TB stole Peratts work, claimed it was something else. They lied to me, held us back from the joyfully pleasant and engaging Dr Peratt and the plasma universe. Their funding from the Mainwarings is wholly based on the principle that they keep the Velikovsky name alive since the Mainwarings were part of the Velikovsky team, and they are really just a bunch of aging party animals who know some legit science, are parading it around in a fancy dress and are making their future push now with Eugene Bagashoft[sp?] at the helm-clearly meant to be the next voice for the TB. I very much remember when they wanted that to be me.
Now i will play a different roll in the TB existence. Frankly, i didn't need this Alice Bailey-luciferian focus to be off the bolts- many of you know that happened a while ago. Peratt is what it took. It is time though that the credit came backward is due, and with that, and what they did to me and Peratt and with this odd love of a lucifer worshiper, there are just too many red flags, especially when the national plasma labs are basically proving Anthony Peratt correct by the month these days. I'm taking this one very seriously guys.
Plasma Universe, it's not only the just name, but it's more scientifically accurate. Be safe everyone."
Wow, he talks fast, that's hard work and I've used up most of my computer time today.
But I have the day off tomorrow, will check back for comments.
In short, so much of this sounded eerily familiar to Laura's travels down the rabbit hole.
As well as to other disappearances to hide the facts.
I admit watching Thunderbolt videos, and thought them very entertaining, the science very interesting, but as a whole was hesitant to hop on that wagon. Something wasn't making sense and just didn't seem to pass the muster. Kind of like wrapping some hard scientific truths in almost believable fiction.
Anyway, I like Ben Davidson's work, he translates space science talk so it's understandable, and stays away from speculations for the most part. And he's got the courage to speak out about his humiliating experience. Thumbs up to SO.
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