Smoking is... good?

[sacriface]

You might try heavy windbreaker material from an outdoors equipment store and make a lining with that. I have seen simple pouches made that are large enough to contain the original pouch your tobacco comes in. The plastic pouch can be used as the pattern. Add a half centimeter all around plus the seam allowance. When you get a new tobacco pack, you just pop it into your leather pouch and wrap. If you get one of the plastic ones that have a zip-lock closure, it will stay even more fresh. Good idea to make the flap long enough to wrap a second time before it closes. You can also add little pockets for your papers and a lighter.

I would love to see a pic when you get it done!

Thank you, herondancer, I think this is as far as the lining can get from being plasticky, very good idea! It also made me think of something like a sail textile, although it might be a bit too thick. I will experiment with these, and definitely adding pockets too!

I've had this steel roller (never used) in the back cupboard and decided to give it a try. It is a Gizeh roller as shown here _http://www.ryomagazine.com/rollers.htm and heck, it does a nice job and holds paper, filters, and a little tobacco inside (enough for brief away times from home).

The rollers are probably the handiest pre-made containers for tobacco. I prefer rolling by hand, though, because it's impossible to roll reverse-flip with a machine, and I found that there is a big difference when the excess skin (most of it in my preferred size) isn't tucked inside a rollie. It affects the taste a lot as I found, and why smoke more paper than necessary..

When I make my pouch I will sure share some photos :)

thanks for the helpful tips.

 

[Voyageur]

The rollers are probably the handiest pre-made containers for tobacco. I prefer rolling by hand, though, because it's impossible to roll reverse-flip with a machine, and I found that there is a big difference when the excess skin (most of it in my preferred size) isn't tucked inside a rollie. It affects the taste a lot as I found, and why smoke more paper than necessary..

When I make my pouch I will sure share some photos :)

thanks for the helpful tips.

Yes, noticed the size of the roller was small for the paper i was using (by a few mm).

Good luck with the pouch!

 

[Deleted member 8431]

Quick question guys.

I have found a company _http://shop.wholesale-cigarette-tobacco.com/ which sell pretty cheap tobacco leaf shredders (around 90$). It has supposedly a 3 year warranty so I'm thinking about ordering it.

The only thing is that the owner doesn't use Paypal anymore and is asking me to contact him by phone so he can get my debit card information (I don't have a credit card).

So the question is: is that safe? The website seems legit and everything but I'm wondering about what information I would need to give to make a [safe] transaction and what information I shouldn't give in order not to be scammed.

Has anybody done that sort of transaction before? I'm a complete noob in the matter.

Thanks a bunch. I'm sorry if it's a bit off-topic.

 

[sacriface]

Quick question guys.

I have found a company _http://shop.wholesale-cigarette-tobacco.com/ which sell pretty cheap tobacco leaf shredders (around 90$). It has supposedly a 3 year warranty so I'm thinking about ordering it.

The only thing is that the owner doesn't use Paypal anymore and is asking me to contact him by phone so he can get my debit card information (I don't have a credit card).

So the question is: is that safe? The website seems legit and everything but I'm wondering about what information I would need to give to make a [safe] transaction and what information I shouldn't give in order not to be scammed.

Has anybody done that sort of transaction before? I'm a complete noob in the matter.

Thanks a bunch. I'm sorry if it's a bit off-topic.

Hi Jaymark,

I wouldn't risk it if I were you. The webpage doesn't look like it couldn't be a scam. And how would they manage with getting all the card numbers for worldwide postages via the phone? Maybe they would, maybe they don't

 

[Foxx]

Quick question guys.

I have found a company _http://shop.wholesale-cigarette-tobacco.com/ which sell pretty cheap tobacco leaf shredders (around 90$). It has supposedly a 3 year warranty so I'm thinking about ordering it.

The only thing is that the owner doesn't use Paypal anymore and is asking me to contact him by phone so he can get my debit card information (I don't have a credit card).

So the question is: is that safe? The website seems legit and everything but I'm wondering about what information I would need to give to make a [safe] transaction and what information I shouldn't give in order not to be scammed.

Has anybody done that sort of transaction before? I'm a complete noob in the matter.

Thanks a bunch. I'm sorry if it's a bit off-topic.

Why do you need to give your number over the phone? It looks like they can take orders from the site.

I personally don't see anything that stands out as a red flag regarding the site, but that doesn't mean that they can't get hacked or some other issue that results in having your information stolen. To guard against that, I'd recommend getting a credit card, so that they at least don't instantly have your money in the event that your information gets stolen.

 

[Jacques]

The only thing is that the owner doesn't use Paypal anymore and is asking me to contact him by phone so he can get my debit card information (I don't have a credit card).

I would not give him my debit card info.

Maybe you should try to have a credit card with a small amount on it. It is quite often very useful.

 

[Deleted member 8431]

Hi Jaymark,

I wouldn't risk it if I were you. The webpage doesn't look like it couldn't be a scam. And how would they manage with getting all the card numbers for worldwide postages via the phone? Maybe they would, maybe they don't

The guy's name is Mike Schnetzler. I found out that he has a youtube channel in regards to his tobacco company showing various products such as the shredder I mentionned.

Here's another link to his website (the real homepage this time).

_http://wholesalecigarettetobacco.com/

Doesn't look so bad.

Why do you need to give your number over the phone? It looks like they can take orders from the site.

I personally don't see anything that stands out as a red flag regarding the site, but that doesn't mean that they can't get hacked or some other issue that results in having your information stolen. To guard against that, I'd recommend getting a credit card, so that they at least don't instantly have your money in the event that your information gets stolen.

He said he was using Paypal before but that it turned out to be ureliable for him and his customers.

When you place an arder online, here's the message you get in the ''payment'' section:

Payment Method

Print and Call

Place your order, then print a receipt and call us to arrange payment. We are changing our payment gateway. Just email or call in your order.

Thanks

Also I can't get a credit card as I still owe them money. :(

I would not give him my debit card info.

Maybe you should try to have a credit card with a small amount on it. It is quite often very useful.

 

[Foxx]

Why do you need to give your number over the phone? It looks like they can take orders from the site.

I personally don't see anything that stands out as a red flag regarding the site, but that doesn't mean that they can't get hacked or some other issue that results in having your information stolen. To guard against that, I'd recommend getting a credit card, so that they at least don't instantly have your money in the event that your information gets stolen.

He said he was using Paypal before but that it turned out to be ureliable for him and his customers.

Yeah, there are quite a number of reasons to not use paypal, though unfortunately it's kind of the only option in a number of situations.

One alternative could be to buy a visa prepaid gift card, which I think should function the same as a credit or debit card, except that it's not tied to any of your accounts:

_http://www.visa.ca/en/personal/prepaidcards/giftcards.jsp

Or maybe a reloadable Visa card:

_http://www.visa.ca/en/personal/prepaidcards/reloadable.jsp

There are also Visa prepaid cards, though I'm not seeing any links for Canada, so maybe it's limited to the US:

_http://usa.visa.com/personal/cards/prepaid/prepaid-card-online.html

I'm not sure how different that would be from the other two options. Essentially, you'd just put the amount of money on it for the purchase (maybe a bit more, just to make sure that you aren't unable to buy it due to some hidden fees or something--I'm not sure) and use it. If the information gets stolen, it doesn't matter since you've already spent the money on it and its not tied to any accounts, and you can toss the card afterwards, if you like.

 

[James Henry]

Hi JayMark,

Searching the websites phone # He has youtube videos about his products and is in the videos, so this adds a little bit of credibility. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ebf8rFyi60

According to: _http://www.manta.com/c/mxfk9fm/wholesale-cigarette-tobacco
His physical address is:

Wholesale Cigarette Tobacco
1224 Seminole Dr
Indian Harbour Beach, FL 32937 map

321-238-8016

Wholesale-cigarette-tobacco.com

wholesalecigarettetobacco@gmail.com

Mike Schnetzler updated this company profile on 04/17/2012

Are you in a rush? Perhaps you could arrange payment by sending a check or money-order.

You might also want to find out how he ships to Canada. My limited understanding is that some delivery companies have higher fees due to customs and that USPS may not. (Verify yourself)

PS. lol While typing I see others have given some of the same info.

 

[Deleted member 8431]

Yeah, there are quite a number of reasons to not use paypal, though unfortunately it's kind of the only option in a number of situations.

One alternative could be to buy a visa prepaid gift card, which I think should function the same as a credit or debit card, except that it's not tied to any of your accounts:

_http://www.visa.ca/en/personal/prepaidcards/giftcards.jsp

Or maybe a reloadable Visa card:

_http://www.visa.ca/en/personal/prepaidcards/reloadable.jsp

There are also Visa prepaid cards, though I'm not seeing any links for Canada, so maybe it's limited to the US:

_http://usa.visa.com/personal/cards/prepaid/prepaid-card-online.html

I'm not sure how different that would be from the other two options. Essentially, you'd just put the amount of money on it for the purchase (maybe a bit more, just to make sure that you aren't unable to buy it due to some hidden fees or something--I'm not sure) and use it. If the information gets stolen, it doesn't matter since you've already spent the money on it and its not tied to any accounts, and you can toss the card afterwards, if you like.

Thanks!

I'll look at it. Sounds interesting.

Other options I'm thinking of are:

- Sending a cheque (if possible and safe)
- Transfer money to his account (if possible and safe)
- Send a money-order (that would be easy and simple)

Another option would be, of course, to find another shredder that is in that range of price.

 

[Deleted member 8431]

Alright.

I have checked and I can get a Visa prepaid from my bank in Québec. It can be used anywhere Visa is accepted. This will be more than handy and spare me a lot of time/trouble.

No credit check required. This is good news.

Thanks a bunch Foxx!



EDIT: I just have ordered it.

 

[Mr. Premise]

Alright.

I have checked and I can get a Visa prepaid from my bank in Québec. It can be used anywhere Visa is accepted. This will be more than handy and spare me a lot of time/trouble.

No credit check required. This is good news.

Thanks a bunch Foxx!



EDIT: I just have ordered it.

He seems legit. Mostly because his tobacco prices are extremely high. His "wholesale" prices (minimum 5 lbs) are twice that of retail (1 lb) prices on other sites. So if he were running a scam he would try to lure people in with low prices. The only thing he has that you can't find on other sites is organic flue cured. But he wants $140 for 5 lbs.

 

[Foxx]

Alright.

I have checked and I can get a Visa prepaid from my bank in Québec. It can be used anywhere Visa is accepted. This will be more than handy and spare me a lot of time/trouble.

No credit check required. This is good news.

Thanks a bunch Foxx!



EDIT: I just have ordered it.

 

[sacriface]

Imagine the cigarette industry crumbling against all smokers choosing good quality tobacco and enhancing their psychic abilities . I wonder how probable is this, and if so, how far away.. :)

A few posts above there was a short discussion about what materials to use to make a lasting pouch for tobacco.
I've made mine yesterday, and here's some photos and info;

Materials: old soft leather, packing foil for lining (slightly thicker than tobacco pouches but not yet 'plasticky' and hard), thin hemp and normal sewing threads smeared with beeswax for durability and less friction&wear while sewing, sticky velcros and bicycle tube.

Tools: Carpet (curved) needle, normal needle, scissors, leather patch (to push/pull needles through leather), scalpel, rough sandpaper, beeswax (candle wax can do instead)

Dimensions of the pouch is based on the Manitou tobacco package, although it came out slightly bigger because of different way it's closed.
Areas where foil is against foil were smeared with beeswax too for extra airtightness.
Outer edges had holes punched with the matress needle before stitching - it's easier to pull the hemp thread afterwards.
Bike tube on the inner edge of the opening easily 'catches' the plastic lining and hopefully doesn't allow the pouch to "breathe" too much when closed. Bike tubes when deflated have a squished flat shape, so it's easy to just cut off and use the the rounded edge.
I misplanned the placement of the skins pocket, but happily it doesn't seem to affect the sealing. Thanks for the idea, Herondancer!
(pocket goes first to avoid punctures in the plastic)
Super glue can be useful to "fix" some of the knots where seams end.

So far the tobacco has spend about 14 hours inside the pouch and it didn't yet get dry. If it isn't airtight enough I might spread some PVC glue on/into the outer seams or sew/glue on more bike tube. Unless someone maybe knows some other good + not too toxic sealing substance?

If I had the time/will to do it again I would maybe use some other, denser stitching techniques and more plastic "gaskets" for the lining. Using tiny super strong magnets could work better than velcros, too. I looked for some mentioned windbreaker material first, but all I could find wasn't necessarily airtight(only watertight), or if lined with rubber had a very strong unpleasant smell that could again infuse the tobacco.

I found some useful stitching techniques here (after I was done) :)
_http://chestofbooks.com/crafts/needlework/Home-And-School-Sewing/XXIII-Decorative-Stitches.html#.Udvwxj771nE

Now on to kindle pouch :)

 

[Deleted member 8431]

He seems legit. Mostly because his tobacco prices are extremely high. His "wholesale" prices (minimum 5 lbs) are twice that of retail (1 lb) prices on other sites. So if he were running a scam he would try to lure people in with low prices. The only thing he has that you can't find on other sites is organic flue cured. But he wants $140 for 5 lbs.

Yeah I would certainly not buy tobacco from him though. Whole Leaf Tobacco sells 3.5 lbs for 40$-45$.

Anyhow, my Visa prepaid request has been approved. I have printed the form, signed it and sent it back by fax so it shouldn't take too long (and anyways Mike told me last week that the shredders were BO for 2 weeks).

So I'll give it a go with the shredder. He offers a 3 year warranty on it so that's not bad. It should do for now.