Keyhole said:Rhiannon said:loreta said:Thank you Keyhole!!! I will order next month in Virgin vapors. I wanted organic liquids, absolutely. Even if I continue to be lost in this subject because if they lie with tobacco they also lie with e-cigarettes. That's for sure.
Thanks.
Hi Loreta,
I had ordered a lot from Virgin Vapors and really liked them. I would just say, if at any point you feel any weirdness, like front teeth feeling numb, stop vaping. Just say'n!
I have a confession to make which I have been putting off the last few weeks. Smoking the liquid e-cigarettes has actually been making my throat extremely sore, making my tongue feel numb and has caused me breathing difficulties (wheezing and coughing). I was reluctant to post this here because I think I have been in denial and try to block out whatever negative symptoms I was experiencing mainly because of how much I enjoyd the vaping.
I came across this article my Mercola a few weeks ago and thought it would be important for anyone who vapes to be aware of this :
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Electronic Cigarettes Contain Toxic Metal Nanoparticles
After testing the aerosol from a leading manufacturer of electronic cigarettes, it was found to contain metals including tin, copper, nickel and silver, silicate beads and nanoparticles. In some cases, such as in the case of tin particles, the amounts were greater than you might be exposed to from smoking a conventional cigarette. The researchers concluded:3
“Cartomizer aerosol from a leading manufacturer of EC [electronic cigarette] contained metals, silicate beads, and nanoparticles. Poor solder joints appear to have contributed to the presence of tin in the aerosol. In cytotoxicity tests, cartomizer fluid containing tin particles inhibited attachment and survival of hPF [human pulmonary fibroblasts].
Other metals likely came from the wires (copper, nickel, silver) and other metal components used in the cartomizers, while silicate particles appeared to come from the fiberglass wicks.
While the outer fibers filtered out many of the tin particles, significant amounts of tin, other metals, and silicate beads escaped into the aerosol and would result in human exposure, in some cases probably greater than a conventional cigarette user would experience.” [emphasis added]
The effects of toxic metal exposures can range from subtle symptoms to serious diseases. Since metals build up in your body over time, symptoms are often attributed to other causes and people often don't realize that they have been affected by metals until it's too late. Further, once metals build up in your body they can cause irreversible damage.
Why Breathing in Metal Nanoparticles May be Dangerous
Adding to the potential risks are nanoparticles, which, due to their ultramicroscopic size, can easily enter your bloodstream, blood vessels and other body tissues, causing unknown consequences. As written by Sayer Ji, founder of GreenMedInfo.com:4
“One of the unintended, adverse consequences of nanotechnology in general is that by making a substance substantially smaller in size than would occur naturally, or though pre-nanotech production processes, the substance may exhibit significantly higher toxicity when in nanoparticle form.
Contrary to older toxicological risk models, less is more: by reducing a particle's size the technology has now made that substance capable of evading the body's natural defenses more easily, i.e. passing through pores in the skin or mucous membranes, evading immune and detoxification mechanisms that evolved millions of years before the nanotech era.
For example, when nickel particles are reduced in size to the nanometer range (one billionth of a meter wide) they may actually become more toxic to the endocrine system as now they are capable of direct molecular interaction with estrogen receptors in the body, disrupting their normal structure and function. Moreover, breathing these particles into the lungs, along with other metals, ethylene glycol and nicotine produces a chemical concoction exhibiting synergistic toxicity, i.e. the toxicity of the whole is higher than the sum of their parts.”
Article can be found here:_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/04/10/electronic-cigarette.aspx
Hi Keyhole,
Sorry that you are having negative symptoms. Have you stopped vaping? I hope your symptoms stop when you do.
Even though I stopped vaping in Nov. 2013, I am still dealing with some off and on weirdness in my teeth (a prickly/numbness feeling), and my sinuses sometimes feel like having a slight sinus infection, but without all the mucous, and I get a headache. It isn't everyday, or all the time, and I can't figure out what causes it to flare up. I sometimes have a few days in a row that I feel great, thinking "oh, it is finally over", but then it flares up again. Right now I am on a fifth day in a row of feeling symptoms. Taking naproxin, or ibuphrofren barely helps, and I hate taking them, but sometimes I just have to. It really is draining. It all goes back to the very beginning of vaping, and I personally wish I never tried it.
Here is my original post when I began:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26825.msg450203.html#msg450203
I read Mercola's article before. I do wonder if the nanoparticles are in my mucous membrane. I have done a few rounds of EDTA, and I now am drinking green clay to try and pull whatever out of my system. I am hoping it is not irreversible. It sucks.
If anyone has any suggestions what else I could do, please let me know.
P.S. I have even stopped smoking tobacco for the last 2 months, because it seemed to intensify my symptoms.