Smoking is... good?

[JonnyRadar]

Organic tobacco doesn't make you cough up mucus, either.

I've noticed this as well. A friend of mine and I refer to these as "lung cookies", and can judge the quality of a cigarette based on the number and consistency of lung cookies. :P Of course that also has to do with diet and what may or may not be generating phlegm.

 

[abstract]

Of course that also has to do with diet and what may or may not be generating phlegm.

I can say that i have noticed increased phlegm when i have consumed sugar.

 

[pete02]

Organic tobacco doesn't make you cough up mucus, either.

I've noticed this as well. A friend of mine and I refer to these as "lung cookies", and can judge the quality of a cigarette based on the number and consistency of lung cookies. :P Of course that also has to do with diet and what may or may not be generating phlegm.

I have also noticed this and a couple of other things. The 'smoke' odor doesn't seem to linger in a room the way cigarette smoke lingers and my lungs don't get that 'weighed down' feeling after smoking from a pipe. I definitely think the paper and maybe even the filter are doing some damage when inhaled.

Of course that also has to do with diet and what may or may not be generating phlegm.

I can say that i have noticed increased phlegm when i have consumed sugar.

You guys are right there too! I've stayed mostly away from sugar but if I come across something with even just a tiny bit of cheese in it, man I get stuffed up!

 

[dant]

If I understood it properly, smoking is also part of
detoxing, resulting in phlegm? So perhaps it is
what you eat/drink that smoking generates phlegm?

Milk products also generate phlegm as well? I am sure
there are a TON of stuff that can do the same...

FWIW,
Dan

 

[DJM]

Are the new FSC fire-safe cigarettes making smokers sicker than ever?


I started noticing a difference in our smokes before Christmas. The following article shows why the new cigarettes are even more dangerous to our health.

After lighting up are you experiencing more headaches, stomach cramps or a coppery taste in your mouth? Does your new FSC (fire-safe cigarette) taste bad, cause dry mouth and are you coughing more?

New York State was one of the first states to require that cigarettes be made with the new fire-safe paper. This paper is constructed by gluing two or three thin bands of less-porous paper together with an ethylene vinyl acetate copolymer emulsion based adhesive (carpet glue).

See the rest of the article here:

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-11705-NY-Holistic-Body--Spirit-Examiner~y2009m7d12-Are-the-new-FSC-firesafe-cigarettes-making-smokers-sicker-than-ever

I am beginning to believe if it has a label, don't eat it, drink it or smoke it...

Peace!

 

[realitybugll]

I'm reading velvet fist iron glove, among others for a research paper. this part is divergent from my paper but nonetheless i found these statistics interesting.

"smokers tend to be risk-takers and they are more likely to believe in a fate and luck:
"Studies show they are more impulsive, more rebellious, have a high sex drive, and are less concerned about what people think of them"
"They tend to be outgoing and are much more likely to be extroverts. A very high number of high achievers, artists and geniuses have smoked"
"smokers are also statistically more likely to be poor, badly educated, drinkers, and jailbirds"
"Smokers are more likely to have suffered depression and are twice as likely to commit suicide."
"One study showed that 60% of heavy smokers had a history of depression"
"The vast majority of schizophrenics smoke and more than half of psychiatric patients and homeless people smoke"


I haven't looked at the studies themselves, but if true for the most part, I found these statistics especially what I bolded interesting. Obviously some of the correlation's if true are pretty self-explanatory, but others are not.

smoking attends to attract a certain audience... of mentally unstable people? the addiction to nicotine is stronger in mentally unstable people?

 

[theos]

"One study showed that 60% of heavy smokers had a history of depression"
"The vast majority of schizophrenics smoke and more than half of psychiatric patients and homeless people smoke"

I haven't looked at the studies themselves, but if true for the most part, I found these statistics especially what I bolded interesting. Obviously some of the correlation's if true are pretty self-explanatory, but others are not.

smoking attends to attract a certain audience... of mentally unstable people? the addiction to nicotine is stronger in mentally unstable people?

I've worked with a lot of schizophrenics and depressed folks and lots of them do smoke. Most say that it relaxes them or calms their nerves which has a lot of merit to it. If I were hearing voices and had trouble discerning what is real or felt overburdened with anxiety I would want something to help me relax as well. It can be seen as a form of self-medicating. Also, one of the main reasons that schizophrenics are non-compliant with their meds is because it makes them feel doped up and slow. Since ciggies help you think they are probably just trying to counteract the effect of the meds.

So I don't think it's that cigarettes make people depressed and schizophrenic (I'm assuming that this is what some studies are saying). I think it's the opposite. Depressed and schizophrenic people smoke to make themselves feel better.

 

[vinny]

"One study showed that 60% of heavy smokers had a history of depression"

and from another angle... I believe that studies have also been carried out showing that for those prone to depression, there was a positive correlation with proficiency at objective thinking, as opposed to what we'd know as self-calming dissociation / filtering. There should be a link round here somewhere.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

Re: I know the C's were asked about Nicotine and Alcohol

It has been said that marihuana and alcohol are the key to knowledge, open your mind, frees you from suffering. I've heard there are people who have seen "monsters, ghosts, etc." and have stopped drinking from the shock.

I drank too much over the breakup of a relationship with a person manipulated by a psychopath, the damage was serious in my life. When I could fix my life, having accepted the reality, I continued drinking to much. There were moments when I was talking to a person and everything turned black, my consciousness was "asleep" when I "woke up", he continued the conversation, - but did not know he was talking about - or simply i was verbally attacking the person. It was like sleeping without dreams, everything was black, when my consciousness returned, was like waking up, but I was already awake. Total disconnection, I chose to stop drinking, for a long time to prevent the posible suicide by a past emotion.

It was as if my memories, my feelings good and bad, each had its own life, different personalities and are expressed towards the particular person with what he felt or thought about his life, without measuring consequences, what he said was in some way truth.
Here we say "drunk, not lie" the person who tells lies in his life, when drunk, says it all.

For me it was easy to quit drinking, I had no psychological dependence, as there are people who say "it is cold I want to smoke to keep me warm, I'm stressed I want to smoke to calm me"

 

[Guardian]

Re: Are the new FSC fire-safe cigarettes making smokers sicker than ever?

I REALLY wish I'd read this thread a few days ago :(

 

[Guardian]

Re: Are the new FSC fire-safe cigarettes making smokers sicker than ever?

After lighting up are you experiencing more headaches, stomach cramps or a coppery taste in your mouth? Does your new FSC (fire-safe cigarette) taste bad, cause dry mouth and are you coughing more?

Gee, they seem to have left out "Throat swells up and you can't breath" GRRRRRRRRR

CARPET GLUE??? Well that makes sense in a sick sorta way. Years ago a friend of mine got new carpeting, and as soon as I walked into her house I started to wheeze and gag. I had to leave and could not visit her again for months. Even after she said the smell was gone (I think she just got used to it) I still had a reaction the minute I walked in the door.

What next?

 

[Gimpy]

Re: Are the new FSC fire-safe cigarettes making smokers sicker than ever?

I started noticing a difference in our smokes before Christmas. The following article shows why the new cigarettes are even more dangerous to our health.

After lighting up are you experiencing more headaches, stomach cramps or a coppery taste in your mouth? Does your new FSC (fire-safe cigarette) taste bad, cause dry mouth and are you coughing more?

New York State was one of the first states to require that cigarettes be made with the new fire-safe paper. This paper is constructed by gluing two or three thin bands of less-porous paper together with an ethylene vinyl acetate copolymer emulsion based adhesive (carpet glue).

See the rest of the article here:

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-11705-NY-Holistic-Body--Spirit-Examiner~y2009m7d12-Are-the-new-FSC-firesafe-cigarettes-making-smokers-sicker-than-ever

I am beginning to believe if it has a label, don't eat it, drink it or smoke it...

Peace!

Thanks for this heads up! I don't smoke much, but I have dear friends that do, and others who gift tobacco in the forms of cigarettes. I've linked to the article on my facebook page to help pass the word along.

 

[Renaissance]

Re: FSC Fire-Safe Cigarettes

I stopped smoking commercial cigarettes and moved to roll your own when I unknowingly bought a pack of 'fire-safe' American Spirits. I was on the look out because my mother had recently lost most of her sense of taste except for having an ever present metallic taste in her mouth. She got rid of some 'fire-safe' cigarettes she was smoking, and it went away. I wrote to the company and asked what they used to make it; this was their reply:

Subject: RE: cigarette paper additives
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:27:54 -0600
From: "Feedback" Add to Address Book
To: "Shane ********"


Dear Shane,

Thank you for your e-mail

We are using a new cigarette paper for all of our cigarettes
manufactured for sale in New York. This paper, quite simply, has
built-in speed bumps. The speed bumps are placed in horizontal bands
along the length of the cigarette; as the lit end burns across these
bands, the supply of oxygen is restricted and the cigarette is more
likely to self-extinguish.

This paper contains only natural flax fiber, calcium carbonate,
citric acid, diammonium phosphate (a naturally occurring material),
guar gum, water, and the natural starch used to form the speed
bumps. The material used to create the speed bumps is composed of a
natural starch that is applied to the paper in a water solution in
6mm-wide bands.

If you have any other questions, please call us toll-free at 1 (800)
332-5595 and one of our Customer Service Representatives will be glad
to assist you.

Very best regards,

The People of Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company

I'm pretty sure I remember looking up diammonium phosphate and finding out that burning it releases ammonia. Awesome huh.

 

[Ca.]

Re: FSC Fire-Safe Cigarettes

I have been using and also recommend Zig-Zag and roll your own and have been for the last what seems 6 years. Unless anyone knows better I've have had no problems. Some sample of roll your own lose in a bag.

- Amber Leaf - 50gr -€ 3,70
- Arizona blond 28gr -€ 2,00
- Arizona full flavour 28gr -€ 2,00
- Broutteux - 100gr -€ 7,00
- Broutteux - 50gr -€ 3,60
- Cutters Choice - 50gr -€ 3,80
- Domingo blue - 50gr -€ 3,70
- Drum blue - 50gr -€ 4,60
- Drum light blue - 50gr -€ 4,60
- Drum yellow - 50gr -€ 4,60
- Gauloises - 50gr -€ 4,60
- Golden Virginia - 50gr -€ 4,50
- Interval blond - 40gr -€ 3,05
- JPS blue- 40gr -€ 2,80
- Look Out american red 50gr -€ 3,50
- Look Out holland classic blue -€ 3,50
- Old Holborn - 50gr -€ 5,25
- Rt Virginia Tobacco - 200gr -€ 13,90
- Samson original - 50gr -€ 4,60
- Turner blue - 50gr -€ 3,80
- Van Nelle blue - 50gr -€ 4,60
- Van Nelle light blue - 50gr -€ 4,35

 

[Gimpy]

Re: FSC Fire-Safe Cigarettes

This paper contains only natural flax fiber, calcium carbonate,
citric acid, diammonium phosphate (a naturally occurring material),
guar gum, water, and the natural starch used to form the speed
bumps.

Uranium is a naturally occurring material too, but I don't want to smoke it!