Spirit Release Therapy - A Retrospective

goyacobol

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Thor,

just do Reiki and that'll take care of more or less everything.
I don't see that the Cs said anything like that but only that repeated application does help. Even Reiki treatment is no "free lunch" since it requires study and others' efforts to help be channels so to speak for the application of it.

It is another tool I think that may be promising.
 

Laura

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goyacobol,

That sounds pretty much like a magic bullet to me :-). The positive way to interpret the Cs answer is that Reiki is really, really helpful. The suspicious way to interpret the answer is that there must be more to the picture than meets the eye as it could be understood to say, just do Reiki and that'll take care of more or less everything.

I'd love, if time permits in a future session, for Laura to probe into the benefits, limits and correct circumstances for right application of Reiki.
You apparently didn't have a good Reiki teacher because you have a lot of weird impressions/assumptions about it. Yeah, talk about the "suspicious mind"!

No, Reiki doesn't "take care of more or less everything", but it's a big help in many situations, like love.

The point of the attunements is to create a channel that is untainted by the personal foibles of the individual, a conduit.

And I'm not sufficiently interested in asking those questions; I like experimenting and figuring things out on my own.
 

Martina

Jedi Master
I got dislike from Laura. I know horrible. I don't think Reiki is dumb or something like that, or wanting to discourage you from doing it.
 

Elohir

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That sounds pretty much like a magic bullet to me :-). The positive way to interpret the Cs answer is that Reiki is really, really helpful. The suspicious way to interpret the answer is that there must be more to the picture than meets the eye as it could be understood to say, just do Reiki and that'll take care of more or less everything.
Hi Thor,

I think that your debate with Goyacobol was interesting since you pointed out a misunderstanding that can be shared by many people including me. I mean that your questions pushed me to think more deeply about Reiki and its application regarding especially the C'S answer. Even if one day you think that things are sorted out, it's always possible to come back to it another one.

In fact, and I think that if you focus seriously on the Cs material, the Laura's books and on all the material available here and there in the forum, you will be able to find back your way through this.

According to me, Reiki is a powerfull tool to help those who needs help but, hey, you already know that there's no free lunch ! So if it can solve a lot of things, you also should think about the work the "injured" must do in order to make it efficient. It reminds me the Spirit release Therapy in a sense, you can free someone from a spirit, BUT if he doesn't work on himself it means that any spirit can come back and that he didn't solve the origin of his problem. Moreover, as Laura seemed to conlude, it also means that you got involved in one of his karma lesson avoiding him to learn what he had to. In other words, you did the work instead of him and that's not the way.

In the case of Reiki, you seem to give energy to help someone to heal himself in many ways like a boost but nothing will really work without his own work.

I hope, it will be clearer for you as it became to me. Remember that nothing can really work deeply if one doesn't work on the self first.

My 2 cents.
 

JeanneT

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I have read this thread several times and I am left with the impression that there is a question whether the person receiving Reiki will heal at any level unless sufficient work has been done on the self as there is no free lunch, etc.

Just some thoughts on that subject. I was taught that Reiki is a universal life force energy that has a basic intelligence of its own and that I, as the practitioner, am the channel with no agenda regarding how that energy is used. It is not my role to judge or direct the outcome or to try to determine whether someone has grown enough spiritually or in any other way to qualify for the service. It is in the asking that they receive and the rest is up to an intelligence that is wiser than I am.

Personally, I have wondered this: it seemed like after receiving the 3rd degree attunement my life actually hit the rails and my eyes began to open through the process of emotional pain and suffering. Did Reiki actually re-pattern something on other levels that was needed...whether it was karmic balancing or just cleaning up some things so that I could take the next step? How do we know what is best for someone or how deep their inner work needs to go? In my opinion, Reiki is much more than just running energy for healing and it is important that the practitioner find that impersonal place that intends and allows it to flow and do what is needed.
 

Jones

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Personally, I have wondered this: it seemed like after receiving the 3rd degree attunement my life actually hit the rails and my eyes began to open through the process of emotional pain and suffering. Did Reiki actually re-pattern something on other levels that was needed...whether it was karmic balancing or just cleaning up some things so that I could take the next step?
Maybe, I've read that the practitioner gets some of the Reiki life force as it passes through to the recipient. To cover all bases though, have you read 'The Wave' yet? There could be other stuff going on.
 

JeanneT

The Force is Strong With This One
Maybe, I've read that the practitioner gets some of the Reiki life force as it passes through to the recipient. To cover all bases though, have you read 'The Wave' yet? There could be other stuff going on.
good point, I am sure that there were other things going on as well. This is the period of time where I also happened to find the "RA"
 

JeanneT

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Sorry, a button was pushed by mistake to post. please let me add: I found the Ra books which led to the Wave series and all of Laura's publications.

I guess I am wondering when an adjustment occurs in the electromagnetic field or with the etheric body through Reiki or something similar, if perhaps, the physical manifestation of that can look like a shake up or suffering before the balancing/healing begins? Something like a when a body attempts to heal with a fever.
 

Laura

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I have read this thread several times and I am left with the impression that there is a question whether the person receiving Reiki will heal at any level unless sufficient work has been done on the self as there is no free lunch, etc.

Just some thoughts on that subject. I was taught that Reiki is a universal life force energy that has a basic intelligence of its own and that I, as the practitioner, am the channel with no agenda regarding how that energy is used. It is not my role to judge or direct the outcome or to try to determine whether someone has grown enough spiritually or in any other way to qualify for the service. It is in the asking that they receive and the rest is up to an intelligence that is wiser than I am.

Personally, I have wondered this: it seemed like after receiving the 3rd degree attunement my life actually hit the rails and my eyes began to open through the process of emotional pain and suffering. Did Reiki actually re-pattern something on other levels that was needed...whether it was karmic balancing or just cleaning up some things so that I could take the next step? How do we know what is best for someone or how deep their inner work needs to go? In my opinion, Reiki is much more than just running energy for healing and it is important that the practitioner find that impersonal place that intends and allows it to flow and do what is needed.
Yes, I was taught the same thing about Reiki, that the practitioner is a conduit and, like a pipe through which water flows, the pipe itself can be saturated with the energy by the act of giving it to another.

And yes, my life changed dramatically after my attunements. And yes, I went through some intense pain and suffering before coming out on the other side. Retrospectively, as you suggest, it was needed.

Thanks for a good summary.
 

Martina

Jedi Master
Hi, I just wanted to say that I asked a local Reiki Master for an attunment, so I'm going in this direction and not with the ducks:-). I don't want to screw up the group work.
 

Nico

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I have seen an "exorcist" for an abduction I had and other bad experiences (mostly in relation to sexual stuff), and this do not felt totally right, he used the "bulldozer technique" and do not really consider what I have said to him about the important of psychology while showing him the SRT book. He is reading Gregg Braden with no apparent discernments too, and consider Reiki as simple magnetism and his work as an exorcist really 'seriously', aware of some of the dangers. I felt somewhat energized by his prayer, but did not felt profoundly free of my hurting emotions or particularly helped in my pain.
I wonder if I have to cancel my next and last session.

I had a session with Patrick Rodriguez and he went directly on the root of the cause of my fear without dealing with spirit or whatever. He pointed out the fear I had from my mother and her influences on my father and brother. It's quite painful and not finished. I remember a dream where an amerindian woman avorted after being raped by a sort of conquistador, it was so strong that I felt it like a past-life resurgence, and so I suffer not being fully incarnated in this life. I talk about it to my psychiatrist but he would not going deeper than just listening to me and encouraging me to talk.
Patrick then sent a angel, and things burnt at the root, leaving me at the edge of passing out.

Reading the SRT book helped me seeing things differently and prove to open more avenue to the reason of my stuckness in life.
I practiced talking with different aspects of me child and I was surprised that it works with feeling lighter and somewhat released. Even talking to me foetus helped a bit. I gather these "fragments" to heal them and made some connections that are surprising like a part of me still frozen in a fight or flight because of a fell I made from a tree, thinking I'll die from it. But a competent therapist is needed and finding one is not simple.

I really feel a "demon" attached to my body, I felt my body shaking unnaturally from the base of the spine and like a mental probe into my rectum, one morning I awoke with a light above my mind downloading mental pornographic images, I also come to see/feel some vision I would qualify to be of Orion STS orientation, resisting it lead me to feeling more aware of my body mind and the environment, but my gut are painfully hurts at the moment. It feels like being connected to Voldemort in the movie Harry Potter and if all STS practice this magic they should terminate like him in the movie. I feel it blocks profound release that will lead me to better integration within. Thanks to Goyacobol citing the C's about hyperdimensional influences stemming from a lack in diet/nurturing here, it really points to the need to take care of the underlying lack to ungrip the attachment, and thus some attachments might be a blessing in the sense that it reveals the lack with enough strength that the attention is finally directed back where it is truly needed. And sure intense pain and suffering seems to be needed also.

What about the work done by Terence Palmer and his Remote Spirit Release association ? It remembers me this case of a woman talking with the spirit through a spirit box and getting/desiring to be possessed by the alleged entity (the common Reptilian type with a lust for domination), whether by ignorance or by wishful thinking.

 

nicklebleu

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As we have talked about on this thread earlier on, SRT is not a magic bullet, and is often counterproductive, if not done right. I think your best bet would be to work on the “territory” the critters inhabit - your mind. Increasing knowledge is one part of the equation, and a bottom-up approach is another - have you tried NeurOptimal? It might give you the edge, as in resilience and emotional calmness, to work through your issues. Just my take, others might chime in with other ideas. Good luck!
 

Nico

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Thanks nicklebleu, I came to this notion of the terrain, with some meditation I saw the "illusory" nature of my mind and that's the way to go. I've had about 8 NO sessions but not at the moment.
I tried some of the techniques described in the SRT book, on me, and I know now it's not a thing to do, but one of them really worked, I felt a warming in the zone from where it left.
 
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