Terror in Las Vegas: Mass shooting at Route91 Harvest music festival

SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
Video may be restricted,
Eye witnesses Recorded,
" Somebody has tapped into the Sound system -- There's no Hits -- nowhere -- No shots"
"Fu --King Fake gunfire"
"theyre not real gunshots"
" I Really dont see anybody actually injured"

Link,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X9FkZ7ehn8&bpctr=1507474812

SocietyoftheSpectacle,

I think it would be more externally considerate for you make some comment about these quotes and the video so we know why you are posting them. I see nothing here that can be verified. Any thoughts?
 
If this is true it would be interesting to see how they explain it. It could have been done after the shooting but that would also have to be explained I think.

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Las Vegas Cover-Up Continues: Video Shows Three Extra Missing Windows On West Side Of The Mandalay Bay Hotel Around The 29th and 30th Floors

Video footage of the Mandalay Bay’s exterior captured the morning after the massacre proves that three windows on the west face of the building were knocked out in addition to the two windows the media reported to be broken in the shooter’s suite and the adjacent room.
(INTELLIHUB) — Exclusive footage captured by Ruptly TV and uploaded to YouTube on Oct. 2 shows a detailed view of both the west, north, and east face of the Mandalay Bay, all of which have broken or missing windows.

According to the official story, the alleged shooter, Stephen Paddock, 64, fired out of a window located on the north wall of his suite, room 32-135, and out of a window on the east wall in the adjacent joined-room onto the crowd at the Route 91 music festival, killing 58 people. And yes, both of these windows were reported by the media to be broken. However, there may be more to the story than meets the eye.

In addition to the 2 broken windows on the north and east walls of the 32nd floor, 3 windows appear to be missing on the west wall.

 
goyacobol said:
SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
Video may be restricted,
Eye witnesses Recorded,
" Somebody has tapped into the Sound system -- There's no Hits -- nowhere -- No shots"
"Fu --King Fake gunfire"
"theyre not real gunshots"
" I Really dont see anybody actually injured"

Link,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X9FkZ7ehn8&bpctr=1507474812

SocietyoftheSpectacle,

I think it would be more externally considerate for you make some comment about these quotes and the video so we know why you are posting them. I see nothing here that can be verified. Any thoughts?

They were quotes from the Video,
That appeared to be Totally genuine.
Sorry if that wasnt clear.
 
SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
goyacobol said:
SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
Video may be restricted,
Eye witnesses Recorded,
" Somebody has tapped into the Sound system -- There's no Hits -- nowhere -- No shots"
"Fu --King Fake gunfire"
"theyre not real gunshots"
" I Really dont see anybody actually injured"

Link,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X9FkZ7ehn8&bpctr=1507474812

SocietyoftheSpectacle,

I think it would be more externally considerate for you make some comment about these quotes and the video so we know why you are posting them. I see nothing here that can be verified. Any thoughts?

They were quotes from the Video,
That appeared to be Totally genuine.
Sorry if that wasnt clear.

How do you see the accuracy? They are genuine quotes but are they true? What do you think? :huh: No hits? Is there any evidence that somebody "tapped into the sound system"? Nobody was injured? I have difficulty believing that.
 
SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
Who ever edited this video, he made things confusing at the end at least. I haven't seen the footage of shooters on the ground ( from 7:15 minutes to 8:45 ) before. After showing more than 20 minutes of footages that refute MSM lone gunman theory, This video's last statement seems to be debunking all the things he showed before. Probably he did it by mistake or may be he meant to confuse.
 
Videos being removed that don't support authoritative sources. How thoughtful :cool2:

Wall Street Journal full article _https://www.wsj.com/articles/youtube-tweaks-its-search-results-after-rise-of-las-vegas-conspiracy-theories-1507219180

YouTube Tweaks Search Results as Las Vegas Conspiracy Theories Rise to Top
Debunked claims appear in top 5 videos for news about Las Vegas shooting, NFL anthem protests
By Jack Nicas
Updated Oct. 5, 2017 9:54 p.m. ET

YouTube this week surfaced videos peddling misinformation, hateful messages and conspiracy theories to users tracking major news events—prompting the site to change its search results to promote more authoritative sources.

For example, the fifth result when searching “Las Vegas shooting” on YouTube late Tuesday yielded a video titled “Proof Las Vegas Shooting Was a FALSE FLAG attack—Shooter on 4th Floor.” The video said there were multiple shooters in Sunday’s mass shooting, a claim dismissed by law enforcement. Posted by a channel called the End Times News Report, it amassed more than 1.1 million views in about 27 hours.

The fourth result when searching “NFL anthem protest” on Wednesday was a video that claimed Anheuser-Busch InBev BUD -0.79% NV was considering pulling its sponsorship of the National Football League over national anthem protests—and urged viewers to push the company to do so. The claim had been widely debunked days before.

In response to criticism on social media of some search results this week, a person familiar with YouTube said the company is accelerating the rollout of planned changes to its search engine.On Wednesday night, the video service began promoting more authoritative sources in search results, especially pertaining to major news events, the person said. YouTube doesn’t disclose how it determines which sources are authoritative.

The high search ranking of the End Times News Report video claiming there was a second shooter in Las Vegas helped it gain 371,000 views over four hours late Tuesday. On Wednesday, YouTube removed the video.
 
Reports of other shootings at various hotels, also there are reports shooters where inside the concert. Listen to the video posted by Brand Thorton whose nephews wife was working at the concert. She says the shots became louder as the shooters where coming closer. https://www.facebook.com/brand.thornton.5

Facebook:
Rikki Raulerson added 4 photos and 3 videos. https://www.facebook.com/rikki.raulerson/posts/1677587885598408 (Check out the videos)
October 3 at 6:40pm ·

So here goes.... Especially to those of you saying to stop talking about this, stop making assumptions etc.
Call me crazy, call me dramatic, call me whatever you want. I'm posting this for those of us who were on the strip Sunday night, who know what we saw and what we were told by police officers, security guards, and even the local news when all of this madness started. And I am posting this in hopes of informing others who have believed everything they've seen on the news. If while leaving the Cosmopolitan, we had been told there was one shooting at the Mandalay Bay, Anthony and I would have not been worried for our lives and we would have continued to go out, knowing we weren't headed to that particular area of the strip. But that's not what we were told. We were told that there were 7 confirmed shooters, and confirmed deaths at multiple hotels. Including Bellagio, the Aria and New York New York. Being told this by a security guard, who then told us to go to the third floor for safety. However, Anthony says, "No Rikki. This is a very popular hotel, I don't feel like the third floor of this popular hotel in public is the safest place. We're going to try and get out of here right now." Running back to our hotel next door, Vdara, we are told once again by police/security checking our id and room key, "yes multiple hotels effected. Go to your room and do not leave." We then get to the room, immediately turn on the news and start watching out of our windows to figure out what is going on. The news also states, live, that the Bellagio had been effected and there was one confirmed death.
Now... skip ahead about an hour. The news is no longer stating anything about the other hotels effected. They say it is one person. Every bit of info that was being initially given to us was disappearing. We could physically see from our window view, fire alarms going off at the cosmopolitan, and multiple cop cars and ambulances pulling up there as well. We wanted more information about what was happening at these other hotels right next to us, and we weren't getting it. And we still aren't.
Monday morning I am of course telling my friends and family about our experience, and I was starting to really feel like I was crazy. Everyone was telling me there was only one shooter, and I just couldn't understand what I had seen. Finally, other people like myself started speaking out. I was relieved to know that I wasn't crazy, but now just as confused as to why the media is trying to hide this information. There are now videos and statements popping up all over the web, showing proof of other shooters and other effected hotels.
Why are they trying to hide this?! If for no other reason, think about being a family member of the others who died or were injured at these other hotels. They deserve the respect, and the truth as to what happened to their loved ones.
Now, can we please stop talking about Gun Control for just a few minutes, and figure out what is really going on here? Figure out the real motive of this incident, and inform people of the truth. Laws can be put in place for anything and everything. There will always be people who break them. And especially with all of the technology we have now days, it is not very hard to find anything you want. Whether it's an illegal weapon, drugs, anything. Laws will always be broken. So let's stop pretending this incident wouldn't have happened if more laws were in place, but instead demand the truth about what really happened that night, and why? Don't be so naive.

Bellagio Hotel

gunmen at concert:
 

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SummerLite,

The Rikki Raulerson report doesn't really show other shooters. I really couldn't see any "machine gun" in the blurry video. It could have been a hand bag, I don't know.

I don't think the broken glass on the lobby floor and gun shots heard at the Bellagio were just somebody throwing rocks. And walking through the hallways seeing people sitting and being told they can't leave while you ask an employee to confirm the news isn't telling what is happening there is very convincing to me.

The shooter in the crowd video is too blurry to be very convincing I think.

But the Bellagio video really seems like the real deal to me and we aren't hearing anything about that.
 
SummerLite said:
Videos being removed that don't support authoritative sources. How thoughtful :cool2:
Wall Street Journal full article _https://www.wsj.com/articles/youtube-tweaks-its-search-results-after-rise-of-las-vegas-conspiracy-theories-1507219180

It seems google is part of the sanitation of keeping the mainstream narrative.

Hard Censorship Hits the Internet
October 8, 2017
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/08/hard-censorship-hits-internet/
US Media Credibility Collapses Paul Craig Roberts
According to this report, YouTube has shut down all independent media coverage of the Las Vegas shooting in a desperate maneuver to protect the official narrative. https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-06-youtube-moves-to-shut-down-all-independent-media-coverage-of-las-vegas-shooting-desperate-maneuver-to-protect-the-official-narrative.html

I cannot attest to the truth of this report. However, it has been brought to my attention that the video made from inside the hospital, which I provided in a link in my article http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/07/las-vegas-final-comment/ , of what appears to be crisis actors carrying pretend wounded into the hospital has been taken down by YouTube. Clearly, if there are real wounded carried to the hospital, why at the same time have crisis actors acting the part? It seems obvious to me that the video was taken down, because those being carried are clearly not wounded and are not being handled in a professional way.

I am aware of books by former insiders that describe the CIA’s alliance with members of the media. When I was a member of the congressional staff, I was warned of the Washington Post’s collaboration with the CIA. And we have the case of Udo Ulfkotte, whose book, “Purchased Journalism,” was a best seller in Germany, but the English translation was yanked from the market. Ulfkotte, an editor with one of Germany’s main newspapers, wrote that he and most European journalists post articles handed to them by the CIA.

The way that the One Percent rules is by controlling the explanations. They do that through official statements endlessly parroted by the presstitutes who have sold their souls.

Remember, the presstitutes sold to the public the false story of “Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction,” the false story of “Assad’s use of chemical weapons,” the false story of “Iranian nukes,” the false stories about Gaddafi, about “Russian invasion of Ukraine,” about Afghanistan, and on and on. When the presstitutes are willing to lie at the expense of the destruction of millions of peoples, the infrastructures of the countries, and millions of refugees inflicted upon Europe, how can we believe the presstitutes about Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, etc., especially when contradictions in the official stories are never cleared up and in place of hard evidence we are given only assertions and photoshopped photos?

Senator Richard Burr, Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee said two days ago that the committee’s investigation of Russiagate uncovered “quite a few” news outlets that ran stories that were not factual about Russiagate. He said “we will use the findings of our report to let the American people hold every news organization accountable for what they portrayed as fact.” http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/06/russiagate-ciamedia-invention/

Government in the United States and the media whores that service government agendas have an immense credibility problem. We cannot rely on the veracity of any government or media statement. Like the boy who cried “wolf,” Washington and the presstitutes have made it impossible to know when they are telling the truth.



Edit Added:

Assange Warns About Vegas Shooting: ‘Almost All Terror Plots are Created by the FBI’
(video)
By Jack Burns - October 8, 2017
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/assange-las-vegas-shooting-fbi-terrorism/?utm_source=getresponse&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=savoymatt&utm_content=The+Free+Thought+Project+Newsletter
Julian Assange noted that the FBI's business model is to stage terror plots so they can swoop in and save the day by foiling the plot they created.
Snip:
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange weighed in on last Sunday night’s deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas, and he pointed out that the FBI has a sordid history of targeting mentally ill and emotionally unstable individuals.

“Almost all ‘terror’ plots are created by the FBI as part of its business model,”
Assange wrote.

Arguably one of the world’s most respected journalists, whom members of the federal government want to label a spy, Assange linked his comments to a Business Insider story written by Caroline Simone titled, “The FBI is ‘manufacturing terrorism cases’ on a greater scale than ever before.” Simone wrote an echo piece from the New York Times which indicated that 67% of terrorism criminal cases also involved evidence provided by undercover FBI agents.

Simone wrote an echo piece for the New York Times, which indicated that 67 percent of terrorism criminal cases also involved evidence provided by undercover FBI agents.
 
goyacobol said:
SummerLite,

The Rikki Raulerson report doesn't really show other shooters. I really couldn't see any "machine gun" in the blurry video. It could have been a hand bag, I don't know.

I don't think the broken glass on the lobby floor and gun shots heard at the Bellagio were just somebody throwing rocks. And walking through the hallways seeing people sitting and being told they can't leave while you ask an employee to confirm the news isn't telling what is happening there is very convincing to me.

The shooter in the crowd video is too blurry to be very convincing I think.

But the Bellagio video really seems like the real deal to me and we aren't hearing anything about that.

Hi! The video on Rikki's page that I thought most informative was the LV News station that was reporting on events early on. He said there where 3 shooters at different locations and shooting in the concert, wounded being transported in a pick up truck etc. This fits well with what she reported about the news being changed. Did you watch the interview on Brand Thortons site? This is the most informative of all osit. This woman, who was at the concert, described gunfire coming closer to where she was hiding and says there where clearly multiple shooters.

I watched the "blurry video" several times and to me it looked like a man positioning a rifle under his arm and firing. It looked pretty clear to me. I also think the other statements made by people in LV at the time where believable.

Could it be, this was an unexpected attack at many sites, including inside the concert ( perpetrated by whom?) and now there is a massive cover up going on with the lone shooter story? One comment I read was, the tourism business could be hit by multiple shootings, but that would only be one small issue, i suppose.

Okay, so this is another angle thats coming up. True, false or a bit of both? I think the eye witness accounts may be the most important information that will come out of this. More contradictions and questions about the official story.
 
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Children are often the first to experience emotional trauma from major tragic events such as the shooting we experienced here in Las Vegas. We would like to offer some tips on how to support your child in dealing with this tragedy.

HOW TO TALK TO CHILDREN ABOUT THE LAS VEGAS SHOOTING TRAGEDY

Each of us, along with the rest of our community and country, are waking up and reacting to the aftermath of hearing the news of the horrific shooting that took place in our own backyard, here in Las Vegas. A tragedy of this magnitude is likely to cause a variety of emotions, even for those not directly involved. When it occurs close to home, the feelings can be expected to be magnified.

Please take a moment to read the information contained below as a guide to help yourselves and your children work through the variety of emotions that can accompany such a tragedy including sadness, grief, helplessness, anxiety, and anger.

Use the following techniques when talking to children regarding the tragedy:

Find times when they are most likely to talk, when they are calm and listening. Let them know you are interested in them and how they are coping with the information they are getting. Listen to their thoughts and point of view. Don’t interrupt – allow them to express their ideas and understanding before you respond. Remind them you are there for them to provide safety, comfort and support.

1. Consider the age and developmental level of the child:

Very young children who are not likely to hear about the situation from others (siblings, friends, or peers at school) may not be aware of what took place and therefore may not need an adult to discuss it with them. If a parent or caregiver suspects that the child may hear something, then it is much better for the discussion to come from the parent or caregiver directly.

School age children who are most certainly going to hear about it from other sources should hear from their parents or caregivers first if possible.

2. When speaking to school age children:

Be honest.
Be direct.
Follow their lead.


Younger children will often be satisfied with a few basic facts. Too many details may frighten and overwhelm them. If this is the case, parents should reassure them as best they can and then keep the door open for the child to initiate more conversation. If the child asks more questions, parents should give honest, simple answers. It’s okay for an adult to say, “I don’t know.”

Some students may seem to "not react", or appear to not be effected by the news. This is ok as well, and a child should not be "pushed" to feel any specific emotions.

3. When speaking to teenagers:

When talking to teenagers, moral and ethical issues are likely to come up, so be prepared to have more complicated discussions with them about topics such as:

Why someone would do something like this?
Religious questions (ex: “How could G-d let something like this happen?”)
What should happen to someone who does something like this?
Larger societal issue, such as gun control, etc.


4. How to handle our own emotions:

Remember that parents and caregivers are models for their children. If adults avoid the topic, it gives the message that we shouldn't discuss it, or that we are not able to.

It’s okay for parents to cry and to model for children that we all have emotional reactions. This can help normalize the expression of emotion. At the same time, parents and caregivers should pay attention to their own reactions. Adults who are overwhelmed or having difficulty functioning should get support first so they can be there for their children and reassure them.

5. Providing security:

When talking to children of any age, it is important to remind them that events such as this shooting in Las Vegas are extremely rare! :pinocchio:

6. When to be concerned:

It is important to keep in mind that when something of this magnitude occurs, some level of emotional reaction is to be expected. This will vary by individual. Normal reactions may include:

- Tearfulness and sadness
- Clinginess or a need for increased reassurance
- Upsetting and frightening dream
- Some separation anxiety


In most cases, some reassurance, support and sticking to normal routines and structure will be enough to help children cope following a tragedy.

Children often deal with emotions - especially difficult ones, through play. Acting out scenes they have heard about or witnessed, is completely normal. Do not stop them from playing, rather listen to the words they are saying.

Children are by nature, resilient. They can and will bounce back and get through this tragedy with the help, love and support from those around them.

If your child is not responding to the above, or if their academic or social functioning seems to be impaired, you may want to consider consulting with a mental health professional.

In shooting chaos, Las Vegas airport became a safe haven
_http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/10/09/in-shooting-chaos-las-vegas-airport-became-safe-haven.html
Snip:
As it became clear that the crowd on the McCarran tarmac was fleeing gunfire, the airport repositioned workers to help with the evacuation and shepherded hundreds of the victims into secure facilities. For hours, they tended to the wounded and offered food, water, blankets, phone chargers and reassurance. Airport shuttle buses later took them to a central evacuation center.

Allegiant Airlines said it sheltered more than 30 people who found themselves at the airline's 24-hour maintenance facility.

"A lot of them had torn clothing, cuts and bruises," airline spokeswoman Hilarie Grey said. "We were able to provide plug-ins to charge their phones, help them contact their families and just provide a safe space for a group of people who were really frightened."

Signature Flight Support, which caters to private planes, sheltered more than 130 people that night, some of them with gunshot wounds.

"A lot of them didn't know if they were still safe. They didn't know where they were going to go, and a lot of them were visitors who didn't know how to get to their hotels," said Rita Carrillo, the company's area general manager.

Las Vegas gunman's nightstand note contained figures for wind, trajectory and distance: Officials
_http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-gunmans-nightstand-note-contained-figures-wind/story?id=50357529
Investigators suspect the Las Vegas gunman had undiagnosed mental illness

60 Minutes (CBS) Previews (Series)
2017 Oct 08
_https://www.cbsnews.com/news/details-on-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddocks-note/
Details on Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock's note
In a note found in Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock's room, law enforcement discovers calculations for distance to his victims and the elevation of his room to know where to aim his falling bullets so they would be most accurate

60 Minutes Overtime
Storming Room 135 (13:08)
_https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-officers-describe-storming-shooter-stephen-paddock-hotel-room/

Why Las Vegas sheriff calls guard "a hero" Vid
_https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-officers-describe-storming-shooter-stephen-paddock-hotel-room/

Las Vegas officers describe storming shooter Stephen Paddock's hotel room 02:07
_https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-officers-describe-storming-shooter-stephen-paddock-hotel-room/
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Windmill knight said:
My intuition is that the narrative of the lone gunman was so half-cooked and hard to believe, while the attack itself so professional and lethal, involving diversionary tactics, etc, that it's almost as if the US government itself had no idea it was coming and a third powerful party did it.

That seems to be the case in most of these FF shootings. I don't think in all the long years of reporting on them that we ever suggested the 'government' was involved. In fact, I think we've generally made it cler that our position is that these ops are carried out by a 'deep cover' group loosely tied to intel agencies.
 
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