Terror in Las Vegas: Mass shooting at Route91 Harvest music festival

[Ca.]

Oct 8, 2017
Rocky Palermo Shot By Gunman on the Ground

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Rocky Palermo speaks with CNN's Erin Burnett about the moment he was shot during the mass shooting at a concert in Las Vegas (Vid 01:43)
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Las Vegas Gunshot Victim Believes There Were Multiple Shooters (Video 03:17)
October 5, 2017 at 12:10 am PDT
https://theblast.com/las-vegas-victim-multiple-shooters-theory/

One of the victims in Sunday’s Las Vegas mass shooting claims the onslaught felt like it was carried out by more than one person, and thinks he has the evidence to support it.

The Blast spoke with Rocky Palermo, who has 30-40 pieces of bullet shrapnel still inside his body after taking a .223 round to the pelvis. He says the bullet was inches from paralyzing or even killing him.

Palermo strongly believes there were between 3-5 active shooters during the attack because as he ran away from the initial gunfire, he describes bullets not only raining down, but flying horizontally at the crowd.

Palermo — an avid hunter familiar with guns and ballistics — says the different trajectories of gunfire was extremely evident, even in the midst of chaos.

He is skeptical of the information being given by authorities regarding Stephen Paddock being a “lone wolf” gunman and has a theory as to why cops don’t buy it.

Further, Palermo is questioning why certain exits out of the venue were suddenly closed off just before the shooting, but claims the same exits were open during the previous nights of the concert.

Palermo says he relayed his theory to the FBI during an interview while being discharged from the hospital, but has not heard any follow up since.

The “multiple shooter” theory has been rampantly discussed among conspiracy theorists since Sunday’s deadly massacre. The theorists believe audio and video from the shooting support their claims.

 

[goyacobol]

SummerLite,

The Rikki Raulerson report doesn't really show other shooters. I really couldn't see any "machine gun" in the blurry video. It could have been a hand bag, I don't know.

I don't think the broken glass on the lobby floor and gun shots heard at the Bellagio were just somebody throwing rocks. And walking through the hallways seeing people sitting and being told they can't leave while you ask an employee to confirm the news isn't telling what is happening there is very convincing to me.

The shooter in the crowd video is too blurry to be very convincing I think.

But the Bellagio video really seems like the real deal to me and we aren't hearing anything about that.

Hi! The video on Rikki's page that I thought most informative was the LV News station that was reporting on events early on. He said there where 3 shooters at different locations and shooting in the concert, wounded being transported in a pick up truck etc. This fits well with what she reported about the news being changed. Did you watch the interview on Brand Thortons site? This is the most informative of all osit. This woman, who was at the concert, described gunfire coming closer to where she was hiding and says there where clearly multiple shooters.

I watched the "blurry video" several times and to me it looked like a man positioning a rifle under his arm and firing. It looked pretty clear to me. I also think the other statements made by people in LV at the time where believable.

Could it be, this was an unexpected attack at many sites, including inside the concert ( perpetrated by whom?) and now there is a massive cover up going on with the lone shooter story? One comment I read was, the tourism business could be hit by multiple shootings, but that would only be one small issue, i suppose.

Okay, so this is another angle thats coming up. True, false or a bit of both? I think the eye witness accounts may be the most important information that will come out of this. More contradictions and questions about the official story.

SummerLite,
There are a lot of "could be"s in almost every mass-shooting we have seen. And, historically there are usually surrounding details that indicate more than one shooter that get reduced to a "lone gunman" did it.

I am convinced that this is a repeated theme after reading Manufactured Terror by Joe Quinn (Joe on the forum) and Niall Bradley (Niall on the forum) which has been banned by Amazon but is still available at Red Pill Press.

I don't know anything about Brand Thorton other than searching to find he is on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. If there was a specific video or article you could give a link.

I also watched the blurry shooter in the crowd video several times pausing through it. It could have been a camera, bag, butt of rifle or anything as far as I could see. Just would not hold up in court if you ask me.

I think the purpose of multiple shooters is most likely to get the job done by killing as many as you can effectively. They are cold hard killers OSIT. Tourism? I doubt that is on their minds much.
I think if anything the confusion is by design it is Manufactured Terror. Terror is the name of the game.

If you haven't read yet I would recommend Joe and Niall's book and then see how you view all this confusion.

It would actually surprise me more if there is "proof" there was a "lone gunman" but with the help of MSM that is never going to happen anyway since they are not interested in any "real" facts.

Comedian Steve Allen is supposed have said "There are two kinds of facts. The ones that are true and ones that you make up."

 

[SummerLite]

Goyacobol, Here's the link, the video is on his FB page.

Reports of other shootings at various hotels, also there are reports shooters where inside the concert. Listen to the video posted by Brand Thorton whose nephews wife was working at the concert. She says the shots became louder as the shooters where coming closer. https://www.facebook.com/brand.thornton.5

Another witness at the concert comes forward, Rocky Palermo. Thanks c.a. good one. I see a screen shot of the video being discussed in the background.

 

[Ca.]

Goyacobol, Here's the link, the video is on his FB page.

Reports of other shootings at various hotels, also there are reports shooters where inside the concert. Listen to the video posted by Brand Thorton whose nephews wife was working at the concert. She says the shots became louder as the shooters where coming closer. https://www.facebook.com/brand.thornton.5

Another witness at the concert comes forward, Rocky Palermo. Thanks c.a. good one. I see a screen shot of the video being discussed in the background.

It just gets weirder and weirder. Your welcome SummerLite.

Oct 7, 2017
Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Alive? Spotted at a Atlantic City Casino on Friday Night ?

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[goyacobol]

Goyacobol, Here's the link, the video is on his FB page.

Reports of other shootings at various hotels, also there are reports shooters where inside the concert. Listen to the video posted by Brand Thorton whose nephews wife was working at the concert. She says the shots became louder as the shooters where coming closer. https://www.facebook.com/brand.thornton.5

Another witness at the concert comes forward, Rocky Palermo. Thanks c.a. good one. I see a screen shot of the video being discussed in the background.

SummerLite,

I am not on Facebook and I can't even click on the video button and see the videos without Facebook wanting a sign-in. Is the video on YouTube?

I believe there are enough eye witness accounts to support the multi-shooter version so that is not my point. The main thing to keep in mind is it really has to be strong evidence and even then it most likely will be "shot down" (pun intended).

I agree that the Rocky Palermo story is very believable and the incident at the video of the Bellagio is a good one too. Like I said I think the "lone gunman"- "Theory" is more difficult for any honest journalist to prove but there are not many "honest" ones around these day OSIT.

 

[goyacobol]

Goyacobol, Here's the link, the video is on his FB page.

Reports of other shootings at various hotels, also there are reports shooters where inside the concert. Listen to the video posted by Brand Thorton whose nephews wife was working at the concert. She says the shots became louder as the shooters where coming closer. https://www.facebook.com/brand.thornton.5

Another witness at the concert comes forward, Rocky Palermo. Thanks c.a. good one. I see a screen shot of the video being discussed in the background.

It just gets weirder and weirder. Your welcome SummerLite.

Oct 7, 2017
Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Alive? Spotted at a Atlantic City Casino on Friday Night ?

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c.a.,

Well, yes that's a "weird" development. He's a "dead ringer" (pun not intended this time). The only other explanation would be a pre-shooting plan to print that whole flier with that date and have all the events pre-scheduled for the same dates. Of course then that would mean they really want this to be part of the confusion. Well it's darn right confuse-in anyway. :/

 

[SummerLite]

Goyacobol, Here's the link, the video is on his FB page.

Reports of other shootings at various hotels, also there are reports shooters where inside the concert. Listen to the video posted by Brand Thorton whose nephews wife was working at the concert. She says the shots became louder as the shooters where coming closer. https://www.facebook.com/brand.thornton.5

Another witness at the concert comes forward, Rocky Palermo. Thanks c.a. good one. I see a screen shot of the video being discussed in the background.

SummerLite,

I am not on Facebook and I can't even click on the video button and see the videos without Facebook wanting a sign-in. Is the video on YouTube?

I believe there are enough eye witness accounts to support the multi-shooter version so that is not my point. The main thing to keep in mind is it really has to be strong evidence and even then it most likely will be "shot down" (pun intended).

I agree that the Rocky Palermo story is very believable and the incident at the video of the Bellagio is a good one too. Like I said I think the "lone gunman"- "Theory" is more difficult for any honest journalist to prove but there are not many "honest" ones around these day OSIT.

I didn't know you weren't signed up for facebook. Perhaps Brand will post the video on YouTube at some point. I've never heard of him before but looks like an interesting person. Oh, I seriously doubt any of the witness testimony will make it to any kind of "official acknowledgement". The official story will be adhered to. We're piecing together aspects of the story and trying to figure out what really happened.

c.a. My question about this sighting of Paddock in Atlantic City is, does he have a tattoo on his throat of the no. 13 or not? The guy in this video doesn't. Maybe just one of those little bits of info meant to confuse. The "tattoo" may have been photoshopped or temporary.

 

[Ca.]

c.a. My question about this sighting of Paddock in Atlantic City is, does he have a tattoo on his throat of the no. 13 or not? The guy in this video doesn't. Maybe just one of those little bits of info meant to confuse. The "tattoo" may have been photoshopped or temporary.

Good question. Yes the tattoo he supposedly, suppose to have had is questionable. Why would any one of his caliber resort to a front neck stamping?

Also many of the mainstream photo's of him gave the look and appearance of a physically and emotionally corrupted soul like a meth head.

The gentleman in this video looks pretty healthy. And if it is him, you'd think he would be in hiding or broadcasting his well being doing what he loved. Don't see a tat ether.

Strange days.

 

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

Well, yes that's a "weird" development. He's a "dead ringer" (pun not intended this time). The only other explanation would be a pre-shooting plan to print that whole flier with that date and have all the events pre-scheduled for the same dates. Of course then that would mean they really want this to be part of the confusion. Well it's darn right confuse-in anyway. :/

I don't think so. That guy just happens to have similar facial features as Paddock, but that doesn't mean it's him, obviously. It's just people's pattern recognition running amok. If Paddock were alive, would he just go on and start gambling at casinos like nothing had happened? This is would make him an actor - which we know is a popular disinformation "conspiracy theory".

 

[goyacobol]

Well, yes that's a "weird" development. He's a "dead ringer" (pun not intended this time). The only other explanation would be a pre-shooting plan to print that whole flier with that date and have all the events pre-scheduled for the same dates. Of course then that would mean they really want this to be part of the confusion. Well it's darn right confuse-in anyway. :/

I don't think so. That guy just happens to have similar facial features as Paddock, but that doesn't mean it's him, obviously. It's just people's pattern recognition running amok. If Paddock were alive, would he just go on and start gambling at casinos like nothing had happened? This is would make him an actor - which we know is a popular disinformation "conspiracy theory".

Just "similar" is in the eye of the beholder. This guy is more than just "similar" IMHO but that is just my opinion. And would Paddock go out in Public like that? Normally, I doubt it either.

I think he looks almost like a "clone".

I know this is a bit weird but nobody ever accused me of being "normal".

Session 14 October 1995

Q: (L) So, in other words, they make replacements for dead people and put their souls in a
replacement body, so that they can continue living on, is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do they ever use dead bodies and re-animate them and then put other souls in them?
A: No. (T): Now, wait now, you're saying some of them... I'm lost now. (TK) Is there a limit to how
long they can be dead? (L) They make...
A: For example: a soldier is KIA, his body is duplicated, his soul is replaced into new body, then he is
"reprogrammed for service" to aliens and S.G. [Secret Government]
Q: (L) Where does the new body coming from? (TK) Cloned, basically. (SV) I would think so...
A: It is duplicate of old body.
Q: (T) Where do they get the duplicate? (L) Where do they get the material for the duplicate? I know
that's a dumb question, I know the answer.
A: TDARM.
Q: (L) OK, that's it. (J) It's in the air, same thing. [TDARM is Trans Dimensional Atomic
ReMolecularization] (T) Otherwise known in Star Trek as a 'Replicator'. (TK) Does somebody have to
die in a certain way before they can do this?
A: No.

 

[JGeropoulas]

Goyacobol, Here's the link, the video is on his FB page.

Reports of other shootings at various hotels, also there are reports shooters where inside the concert. Listen to the video posted by Brand Thorton whose nephews wife was working at the concert. She says the shots became louder as the shooters where coming closer. https://www.facebook.com/brand.thornton.5

Another witness at the concert comes forward, Rocky Palermo. Thanks c.a. good one. I see a screen shot of the video being discussed in the background.

It just gets weirder and weirder. Your welcome SummerLite.

Oct 7, 2017
Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Alive? Spotted at a Atlantic City Casino on Friday Night ?

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Well if that is indeed Paddock, he most definitely does have "mental problems" for being out in public after his face has been shown everywhere as that of a deranged killer and suicide victim. Flaunting he's still alive would mean that instead (also?), he's an accomplice to the disinfo being put out (and the shooting?).

Or I guess he could just be the victim of some serious identity theft who has a serious gambling addiction.

Or, best case, he could just be a look-alike who is so uninformed that he has no idea he's a look-alike.

 

[goyacobol]

Goyacobol, Here's the link, the video is on his FB page.

Reports of other shootings at various hotels, also there are reports shooters where inside the concert. Listen to the video posted by Brand Thorton whose nephews wife was working at the concert. She says the shots became louder as the shooters where coming closer. https://www.facebook.com/brand.thornton.5

Another witness at the concert comes forward, Rocky Palermo. Thanks c.a. good one. I see a screen shot of the video being discussed in the background.

It just gets weirder and weirder. Your welcome SummerLite.

Oct 7, 2017
Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Alive? Spotted at a Atlantic City Casino on Friday Night ?

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Well if that is indeed Paddock, he most definitely does have "mental problems" for being out in public after his face has been shown everywhere as that of a deranged killer and suicide victim. Flaunting he's still alive would mean that instead (also?), he's an accomplice to the disinfo being put out (and the shooting?).

Or I guess he could just be the victim of some serious identity theft who has a serious gambling addiction.

Or, best case, he could just be a look-alike who is so uninformed that he has no idea he's a look-alike.

After looking again I think he is a poor "clone" if that. More a case of mistaken identity probably. I had to look closer and the eyes are more squinty on the NJ man and overall he looks younger. He just happens to be next to an Asian looking woman I guess. I have to admit it was fun comparing him to a "clone". My apologies to
Seppo Ilmarinen and anyone distracted for the overreaction and hastiness.

 

[Joe]

Another witness at the concert comes forward, Rocky Palermo. Thanks c.a. good one. I see a screen shot of the video being discussed in the background.

That video in the background is of one of two police officers stationed at the concert. They are armed. They duck down along with everyone else when the shooting starts. They have guns with flashlights on them or they are also holding flash lights. They do NOT shoot at concert goers. It's this kind of make believe that makes it very difficult to come to any fact-based hypotheses or conclusions.

 

[Joe]

Goyacobol, Here's the link, the video is on his FB page.

Reports of other shootings at various hotels, also there are reports shooters where inside the concert. Listen to the video posted by Brand Thorton whose nephews wife was working at the concert. She says the shots became louder as the shooters where coming closer. https://www.facebook.com/brand.thornton.5

Another witness at the concert comes forward, Rocky Palermo. Thanks c.a. good one. I see a screen shot of the video being discussed in the background.

It just gets weirder and weirder. Your welcome SummerLite.

Oct 7, 2017
Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Alive? Spotted at a Atlantic City Casino on Friday Night ?

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The guy on the right is clearly not the Steven Paddock that is accused of being the shooter at the Mandalay Bay. We need to remember just how many people there are that look a lot like other people, and avoid jumping to these wrong-headed and subjective conclusions.

 

[Ca.]

After looking again I think he is a poor "clone" if that. More a case of mistaken identity probably. I had to look closer and the eyes are more squinty on the NJ man and overall he looks younger. He just happens to be next to an Asian looking woman I guess. I have to admit it was fun comparing him to a "clone". My apologies to c.a. for the overreaction and hastiness.

No problemo goyacobol. From the responses posted about the said individual i have to consider any and all. So yeah there are some discrepancy's.

If it were me i would be hiding in the deepest hole i could find knowing that DS would have bounty on my head. Can you say MS-13 types or tipos ligeramente psicóticos