Terror in Las Vegas: Mass shooting at Route91 Harvest music festival
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Joe said:
Joe she was at the San Bernardino event that i read. Interesting is that she had been given the tickets by a senior employee to the Harvest 91 event in LV.
I would ask, who knows what her movements were during that day, with an employee Christmas party in full swing.
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_attack
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Joe said:
Sorry Joe it's gone. It was during the early preliminary reports of the victims. That was within the first week of October.
I should have did a better job of documenting it. But there seems to be an element that can delete or change the media information at will.
I will see if i can research my claim . My apologizes as i understand it is imperative that any statements must be backed by evidence.
Update: Multiple employee's were injured from San Bernardino at the R-91-HF. I did not know that.
And this one is questionable of its motives.
The Vegas 58: The Dana Gardner Project 7:32
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuKcHjFc_9w
San Bernardino County is just over the Nevada border from Las Vegas. It's not unusual that people from there would be among the 22,000 in attendance at the music festival that weekend/night.
As regards specific individuals being in specific locations, like 'right next to the action', well, stranger things have happened:
Utah teenager injured in Brussels airport bombing was in Boston and Paris when terror struck there
...and that doesn't necessarily mean anything more than that it's odd!
As regards specific individuals being in specific locations, like 'right next to the action', well, stranger things have happened:
Utah teenager injured in Brussels airport bombing was in Boston and Paris when terror struck there
...and that doesn't necessarily mean anything more than that it's odd!
Remember the brief video of that poker player Dan Bilzerian running while yelling, "I just saw a girl get shot in the head!"?
Here's a longer video, presumably filmed by someone he was with, or who followed him:
The thing that struck me about this video is that it shows that Bilzerian made his brief Snapchat video about seeing a "girl just get shot in the head" while running through the staff parking lot on the east side of Giles Street, which is between the venue and the two jet fuel tanks.
This makes me wonder if people were being shot at in that carpark.
Here's a longer video, presumably filmed by someone he was with, or who followed him:
The thing that struck me about this video is that it shows that Bilzerian made his brief Snapchat video about seeing a "girl just get shot in the head" while running through the staff parking lot on the east side of Giles Street, which is between the venue and the two jet fuel tanks.
This makes me wonder if people were being shot at in that carpark.
Ruth
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angelburst29 said:
Well, that's interesting, especially if it failed. If it was MBS, I really don't think that "Saudi Royals" would have enough power to assassinate one of their own, in another country. Not without the permission and collusion of the USA (deep state swampites). If the assassination was to take place in the USA.
From what I see, these people may not be sure of where his loyalties lie, if they can control him, or if they can predict his descisions. Of course, not all people in the FBI/CIA are swampites and they may actually be trying to do their jobs by protecting him or warning him.
Niall said:
Ok but just so many synchronistic events IMHO. Dana Gardner had been given the passes to the 91 Harvest event. That person could be telltale of it's motives. Just sayin.
Dully noted! And thanks Niall as i understand its significance.
Added promo announcement - Route 91 Harvest- Las Vegas
Feb. 21 2017
A LiveNation production.
_https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf1vvk195hLNfror92POD-Q/discussion
c.a. said:
Ok, now follow your initial thought through to a possible logical conclusion...
You're seeing that government employees working for San Bernardino County went to the Route 91 event.
A San Bernardino govt facility (the Inland Revenue, which is not the Sheriff's Office, where Gardner and her colleagues were employed - there's about a half-mile distance between the two buildings) was the site of an earlier (likely) black-op in 2015.
That's the extent of the connection between Gardner and the two events.
What information does that connection suggest about possible motives for carrying out the Route 91 attack?
What to you is a 'synchronicity' is to me a coincidence, and not an interesting one at that. You seem to be suggesting that the planners of the Route 91 attack consciously placed Gardner and her colleagues there... because she works at San Bernardino County, and therefore 'should have' died there?
Something like that may very well come into play at the level of individual destiny and 'lesson profiles', but for the purpose of establishing 'what basically happened' at Route 91, the particular life circumstances - as they are known up to this point - that led to one of the 58 victims being at the event are relatively meaningless.
Niall said:
I can't disclaim your logic. But i will say that this is just one of the many strange and staged events of October. The Psychos operate on many level's throwing one stone hoping to strike as many as possible. This can be seen with the sessions on 9/11.
As i dug into all the information (San Bernadino, Las Vegs, Fires of California, AI data mining, Fusion Centers, Google, Tweeter, Facebook, DS operatives within the NSA, CIA, FBI, LiveNation Entertainment, Ticket Master etc...), i got spooked by what i may have realized.
It was (speculation) of the cover (with distractions) with the possible evaluation's (by the PTB), and elimination of Records (data), and of those whom may have had access (rather knowingly or Unknowingly) to the Deep State California Rat Lines.
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmwmyJ14iJw
LVMPD Caught Lying about Officer Firing Shots in Paddock's Room | What Happened In Vegas Ep. 10 / 3:40 (1 of 10 promos)
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Tracking Your Phone: A look into the technology
By Capital News Service | May 11, 2016
_http://marylandreporter.com/2016/05/11/tracking-your-phone-a-look-into-the-technology/
Snip:
This is Part Four in a Capital News Service series, “Tracking Your Phone.” It examines the use of cell phone simulators to track phones, a practice employed by local and state police but veiled in secrecy. Parts One, Two and Three were posted this week.
Photo by Flickr user JoshuaDavisPhotography. It shows a Maryland State Police helicopter conducting a missing persons search. Cell phone simulators have been used in missing persons cases.
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Photo by Flickr user JoshuaDavisPhotography. It shows a Maryland State Police helicopter conducting a missing persons search. Cell phone simulators have been used in missing persons cases.
Cell site simulators rely on signal strength and direction finding to locate a target device, said Heath Hardman, a former signals analyst for the U.S. Marines Corps.
Hardman used the devices while deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2007 and 2008 and also taught troops how to operate them. If done incorrectly an operator could kick users off a network, forcing them to power their phone off and on before reconnecting, he said.
Or, if an operator broadcasts too broad of a signal, it can overload a network with too many devices looking to jump from one cell tower to another.
“It’s a little bit of an art and a science,” Hardman said.
For these reasons, the Federal Communications Commission must authorize a manufacturer to sell the device. But that authorization only signifies that the equipment meets FCC standards to control radio frequency interference, FCC officials said.
Cell site simulators were initially used overseas by intelligence agencies and federal law enforcement. Homeland Security agencies including the Secret Service and Immigration and Customs Enforcement also now use the devices, as does the Internal Revenue Service.
As the technology improved and spread through federal agencies, local and state agencies learned of them, too. DHS and DOJ officials have said that domestically, their devices only scoop up metadata. They do not gather content, like emails or text messages.
Melbourne, Fla.-based Harris Corp produces the StingRay, which has become a generic name for similar devices. Harris spokesman Jim Burke said it is company policy not to comment on its product. A spokeswoman for Germantown-based Digital Receiver Technologies, Inc., a Boeing subsidiary that produces a cell site simulator referred to as DRTbox, also declined to comment.
Key points:
How police use the devices
Montgomery and Baltimore counties
A tool in drug cases, theft, kidnappings (Rat line)
No evidence of terrorism cases
{1} http://marylandreporter.com/2016/05/08/tracking-your-phone-battlefield-technology-spotlighted-in-maryland-courts/
{2} http://marylandreporter.com/2016/05/09/tracking-your-phone-secrecy-surrounds-technology/
{3} http://marylandreporter.com/2016/05/10/tracking-your-phone-legal-questions-result-in-plea-deals/
Wasserman-Schultz IT Aides Ran Shady "CIA" Car Dealership, Borrowed $100K From Hezbollah Fugitive
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The drug gang with Mission Impossible-style WIGS, sports cars and encrypted phones: Heavily-armed cocaine smuggling ring who tortured their victims in reign of terror face jail
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Snowalker said:
angelburst29
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After months of radio silence, new information released earlier this week surrounding the investigation into Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock's motive appears to have revived suspicions that another person was involved in the shooting.
Clark County Defies Order To Release Vegas Shooter Coroner's Report 02/01/2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-01/clark-county-coroner-refuses-release-vegas-shooter-coroners-report-despite-court
The newly unsealed documents - which were unsealed by court order after journalists at the Las Vegas Review-Journal and other media sued - revealed that the FBI is seeking a "person of interest" named Douglas Haig. Haig's name had not previously been connected to the shooting. What's more, according to what's been widely cited as his LinkedIn page, Haig had "DOD Top Secret clearance" and worked for top weapons manufacturers and specialized in Military Ammunition, as we pointed out.
Haig's connection to Paddock and the shooting is unclear, but in another confusing development, Clark County Nevada Coroner John Fudenberg is defying a court order to release the full autopsy report for Paddock - even though Paddock's body was cremated in December.
According to the Daily Caller, District Court Judge Timothy Williams ordered the coroner Tuesday to immediately release the autopsy. Fudenberg is conferring with others in his office, and no date had been given for his compliance with the judge’s order, the corner’s office told The Daily Caller.
The office also told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the report wouldn't be released until it was “finalized.”
“The coroner’s office has fought to keep autopsy reports confidential,” according to the the Review-Journal.
It's difficult to imagine what component of the autopsy could, at this point, be left unfinished; after all, Paddock's body was destroyed weeks ago. And yet, the coroner has chosen to pay $32,000 in legal costs instead of turning over the final report.
"The shooter’s body was cremated Dec. 21. How can the autopsy report not be 'finalized' when the body was cremated more than five weeks ago?" Review-Journal Editor-in-Chief Keith Moyer publicly stated. "The law is squarely on the side of the public’s right to open government."
An interim report released Jan. 8 gave only scant information about the autopsy and did not release either the autopsy or a toxicology report on Paddock.
“Preliminarily, the injuries noted were on the posterior of both calves and a gunshot wound to the upper palette inside the decedent’s mouth with obvious damage to the upper teeth,” the department stated.
“The cause of Paddock’s death was an internal gunshot wound and the manner of death was ruled a suicide,” the report concluded.
While the details so far largely comport with the early press reports, some say the initial report was suspiciously lacking in detail.
“What’s glaring are the missing details on the autopsy,” said Wayne Black, a 40-year veteran law enforcement and private security expert, in an interview with TheDCNF.
“This is probably one of the most significant medical examiner’s investigations of the year,” he said.
It's been four months since the shooting, and still much remains vague or unknown. Paddock's motives remain a mystery. Unanswered questions remain about the official timeline of events. Photos published online in the immediate aftermath of the shooting purported to show a second shooter closer to ground level, but they were largely dismissed by law enforcement and the media.
Clark County Defies Order To Release Vegas Shooter Coroner's Report 02/01/2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-01/clark-county-coroner-refuses-release-vegas-shooter-coroners-report-despite-court
The newly unsealed documents - which were unsealed by court order after journalists at the Las Vegas Review-Journal and other media sued - revealed that the FBI is seeking a "person of interest" named Douglas Haig. Haig's name had not previously been connected to the shooting. What's more, according to what's been widely cited as his LinkedIn page, Haig had "DOD Top Secret clearance" and worked for top weapons manufacturers and specialized in Military Ammunition, as we pointed out.
Haig's connection to Paddock and the shooting is unclear, but in another confusing development, Clark County Nevada Coroner John Fudenberg is defying a court order to release the full autopsy report for Paddock - even though Paddock's body was cremated in December.
According to the Daily Caller, District Court Judge Timothy Williams ordered the coroner Tuesday to immediately release the autopsy. Fudenberg is conferring with others in his office, and no date had been given for his compliance with the judge’s order, the corner’s office told The Daily Caller.
The office also told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the report wouldn't be released until it was “finalized.”
“The coroner’s office has fought to keep autopsy reports confidential,” according to the the Review-Journal.
It's difficult to imagine what component of the autopsy could, at this point, be left unfinished; after all, Paddock's body was destroyed weeks ago. And yet, the coroner has chosen to pay $32,000 in legal costs instead of turning over the final report.
"The shooter’s body was cremated Dec. 21. How can the autopsy report not be 'finalized' when the body was cremated more than five weeks ago?" Review-Journal Editor-in-Chief Keith Moyer publicly stated. "The law is squarely on the side of the public’s right to open government."
An interim report released Jan. 8 gave only scant information about the autopsy and did not release either the autopsy or a toxicology report on Paddock.
“Preliminarily, the injuries noted were on the posterior of both calves and a gunshot wound to the upper palette inside the decedent’s mouth with obvious damage to the upper teeth,” the department stated.
“The cause of Paddock’s death was an internal gunshot wound and the manner of death was ruled a suicide,” the report concluded.
While the details so far largely comport with the early press reports, some say the initial report was suspiciously lacking in detail.
“What’s glaring are the missing details on the autopsy,” said Wayne Black, a 40-year veteran law enforcement and private security expert, in an interview with TheDCNF.
“This is probably one of the most significant medical examiner’s investigations of the year,” he said.
It's been four months since the shooting, and still much remains vague or unknown. Paddock's motives remain a mystery. Unanswered questions remain about the official timeline of events. Photos published online in the immediate aftermath of the shooting purported to show a second shooter closer to ground level, but they were largely dismissed by law enforcement and the media.
I looked at this autopsy report. The third page of the pdf, second paragraph says:
The body is received within a sealed body bag (seal #541486), which is opened on 10/6/2017 at 1625 hours by #421. The body is identified by a Clark County Office of the Coroner/Medical Examiner (CCOCME) "toe tag" around the right great toe, which includes: CCOCME Case #17-10064; Name: Paddock, Stephen (T); Date of Death: 10-2-17; Time of Death: 1200 hours; CCOCME Investigator: #342.
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Everything About the Las Vegas Shooting Has Been a Lie?
Posted Feb 15, 2018 by Martin Armstrong
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/everything-about-the-las-vegas-shooting-has-been-a-lie/
The Associated Press (AP) released the original PDF (Paddock autopsy _https://d33wjekvz3zs1a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Paddock-autopsy.pdf) of Stephen Paddock’s autopsy results by linking to it in one of their articles last Friday on February 9, 2018. However, the quickly pulled it off the internet within an hour or two because it did not match the official report by the government. Paddock’s Time Of Death was 1200 hours (Noon) on 10/2/17 the day AFTER the shooting 14 hours later.
The police breached the door of the room at about 11:20PM on October 1st. According to the police scanner audio, the officers reported a dead body. So the true account of what took place that day is in question when Paddock did not die until the following day.
There is no explanation but instead, they pulled the report from the internet. The disinformation campaign that was launched appears to be politically motivated against gun owners. This is very strange and the media seems to be ignoring the details as always.
The question this raises is rather blunt. Is there anything we can believe coming from the government about any particular incident? Is every incident being converted into political propaganda? Is this part of the agenda behind the conspiracy involving the bureaucrats v the people?
The body is received within a sealed body bag (seal #541486), which is opened on 10/6/2017 at 1625 hours by #421. The body is identified by a Clark County Office of the Coroner/Medical Examiner (CCOCME) "toe tag" around the right great toe, which includes: CCOCME Case #17-10064; Name: Paddock, Stephen (T); Date of Death: 10-2-17; Time of Death: 1200 hours; CCOCME Investigator: #342.
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Everything About the Las Vegas Shooting Has Been a Lie?
Posted Feb 15, 2018 by Martin Armstrong
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/everything-about-the-las-vegas-shooting-has-been-a-lie/
The Associated Press (AP) released the original PDF (Paddock autopsy _https://d33wjekvz3zs1a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Paddock-autopsy.pdf) of Stephen Paddock’s autopsy results by linking to it in one of their articles last Friday on February 9, 2018. However, the quickly pulled it off the internet within an hour or two because it did not match the official report by the government. Paddock’s Time Of Death was 1200 hours (Noon) on 10/2/17 the day AFTER the shooting 14 hours later.
The police breached the door of the room at about 11:20PM on October 1st. According to the police scanner audio, the officers reported a dead body. So the true account of what took place that day is in question when Paddock did not die until the following day.
There is no explanation but instead, they pulled the report from the internet. The disinformation campaign that was launched appears to be politically motivated against gun owners. This is very strange and the media seems to be ignoring the details as always.
The question this raises is rather blunt. Is there anything we can believe coming from the government about any particular incident? Is every incident being converted into political propaganda? Is this part of the agenda behind the conspiracy involving the bureaucrats v the people?
hlat said:
Had a look too at the Autopsy report (thanks) with page 1 - 11 the basic conduct of the examination and findings of the body and organs. Mostly, death is by (without their words) a self-inflicted gunshot wound in the mouth.
There is mention of some slight abrasions/contusions of the calf areas and an abrasion (small) on the kneen.
Of the bullet; they recovered a moderately deformed cooper jacketed grey metal missile and fragments (same) between occipital dura and partly into occipital skull.
There is no mention of the bullets caliper.
Page 3 at the end states of the body being received (after what the clothing was) states "Of note, during processing a brass-like casing adjacent to the head is found."
Hmmm, odd way to put it "found" - sounds like it was tossed in. Again, no caliper mentioned.
Most articles quickly looked for show a copy of the same photo; partial view of Paddock on the floor with guns around (long arms) which then mention the following as example: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4944234/Two-23-rifles-inside-Stephen-Paddock-s-room.html#ixzz57ReNoTxm
The Autopsy report discuss what sounds like powder burns inside Paddock's mouth, obviously, yet there is no mention of his hands nor the residue that might be on them, nor the weapon itself.
Can't remember in this thread if a specific weapon was cited or if a different view of the body found was discussed? If not, the information is missing bits and pieces of important data points.
Laura Labay Ph.D undertook the Forensic Toxicology of Paddock - of the 40 page report, from page 12 - 40 contains information on testing methodologies, scope of what is tested for and positive results.
Labay, in pages 38 - 40 offers opinion to Dr. Lisa Gavin. The opinion is focused on the toxicology results from NMS Labs.
Opinion:
" …you would like to know if substances found in Mr. Paddock's biological samples may be the reason for the production of violent and aggressive behavior.
[…]
… Mr. Paddock's toxicology testing showed several of substances. The positive findings from both reports, with the exception of vitreous findings, are shown in the table below.
Table:
[Antimony, Arsenic, Barium, Bismuth, Lead, Mercury, Selenium, Caffeine, Theobromine, Chlorpheniramine, Nordiazepam, Oxazepam, Temazepam, Betahydroxbutyric Acid - accounts for the table included corresponding mcg/L (or mL) or ng/mL respectively]
The accounts are then described in the opinion in point form 1 - 5.
The opinion does not say a whole lot other than "Mr. Paddock had previously used or was exposed to this drug class [...] {# 4 Nordiazepam, Oxazepam, Temazepam}. Substances present in the urine do not have any pharmacological activity."
That's what I got out of it.
