The Adaptive Unconscious

Keit said:
I probably state the obvious here, but since it might interest others who haven't read "Blink", and since this book was mentioned by several others who read it when it was first brought up on the forum, just wanted to say that indeed ideas that are expressed in "Blink" are related to the the adaptive unconscious. I caught it today accidentally while listening to "Blink"'s audiobook. That what it says in its second chapter:

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Personally, I find it quite amazing how sometimes certain information just sits there and waits till certain connections are made before it clicks! Now I am going to reread (well, listen to it) again and keep all the new info in mind.

Wow, thanks for that, keit. I've only read it once back in '07 when I was going through the RRL (recommended reading list) and I just looked at my copy of it and already had the words "adaptive unconscious" highlighted. It seems that I was going to get Wilson's book then but I felt the urge to finish Blink first. However, when I finished it, I must have forgotten about it and moved on. How easily one forgets.

I'll too read Blink again with all this recent info in mind. :)
 
This article is referenced in the book I'm reading 'The Biology of Belief' and since it deals with the unconscious mind and mentions the adaptive unconscious I thought I would paste it here. Pretty amazing that they estimate that 95% of brain activity is done in the unconscious mind. I think this shows just how prevalent and difficult it can be to overcome programs and that reading pieces such as this helps to elaborate and bring more clarity to the teaching from those such as Gurdjieff.

http://health.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/050228/28think.htm
Mysteries of the Mind: Your unconscious is making your everyday decisions

By Marianne Szegedy-Maszak

Posted 2/20/05

The snap judgment. The song that constantly runs through your head whenever you close your office door. The desire to drink Coke rather than Pepsi or to drive a Mustang rather than a Prius. The expression on your spouse's face that inexplicably makes you feel either amorous or enraged. Or how about the now incomprehensible reasons you married your spouse in the first place?

Welcome to evidence of your robust unconscious at work.

While these events are all superficially unrelated, each reveals an aspect of a rich inner life that is not a part of conscious, much less rational, thought. Today, long after Sigmund Freud introduced the world to the fact that much of what we do is determined by mysterious memories and emotional forces, the depths of the mind and the brain are being explored anew. "Most of what we do every minute of every day is unconscious, " says University of Wisconsin neuroscientist Paul Whelan. "Life would be chaos if everything were on the forefront of our consciousness."

Fueled by powerful neuroimaging technology, questions about how we make snap decisions, why we feel uncomfortable without any obvious causes, what motivates us, and what satisfies us are being answered not through lying on a couch and exploring individual childhood miseries but by looking at neurons firing in particular parts of our brains. Hardly a week passes without the release of the results of a new study on these kinds of processes. And popular culture is so fascinated by neuroscience that Blink, journalist Malcolm Gladwell's exploration of "thinking without thinking," has remained on the bestseller lists for four weeks.

Most of us can appreciate the fact that we make up our minds about things based on thinking that takes place somewhere just out of our reach. But today, scientists are finding neural correlates to those processes, parts of the brain that we never gave their due, communicating with other parts, triggering neurotransmitters, and driving our actions. Says Clinton Kilts, a professor in the department of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Emory, "There is nothing that you do, there is no thought that you have, there is no awareness, there is no lack of awareness, there is nothing that marks your daily existence that doesn't have a neural code. The greatest challenge for us is to figure out how to design the study that will reveal these codes."

Burgeoning understanding of our unconscious has deeply personal and also fascinating medical implications. The realization that our actions may not be the pristine results of our high-level reasoning can shake our faith in the strength of such cherished values as free will, a capacity to choose, and a sense of responsibility over those choices. We will never be able to control the rhythm of our heartbeats or the choreography of our limbic system. And yet, Gladwell writes that "our snap judgments and first impressions can be educated and controlled . . . [and] the task of making sense of ourselves and our behavior requires that we acknowledge there can be as much value in the blink of an eye as in months of rational analysis."

Mental health. But unconscious processing is not just the stuff of compelling personal insight. For those with emotional disorders like anxiety, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia, and others who suffer from traumatic brain injuries either from a stroke or an accident, peeling away the behavioral layers of their dysfunction has revealed fascinating activity out of conscious awareness that may eventually provide clues to more effective treatments. Recent research on minimally conscious patients, for example, shows language centers on fire when they hear personal stories recounted by a family member. Research on schizophrenia reveals that most who are afflicted have an impaired ability to smell, which researchers think may provide some clue to understanding why they have such difficulty perceiving social cues. Or consider the case of Sarah Scantlin, who was hit by a drunk driver and lay mute at the Golden Plains Health Care Center in Hutchinson, Kan., for 20 years. After the Sept. 22, 1984, crash, the doctor told her parents that it was a miracle she was even alive but that she would never talk or move again on her own. Last month she began to speak--a simple "OK" at first, then more words, even short sentences.

How does this happen? What was going on all that time? How do we get some access to this thing called the unconscious?

According to cognitive neuroscientists, we are conscious of only about 5 percent of our cognitive activity, so most of our decisions, actions, emotions, and behavior depends on the 95 percent of brain activity that goes beyond our conscious awareness. From the beating of our hearts to pushing the grocery cart and not smashing into the kitty litter, we rely on something that is called the adaptive unconscious, which is all the ways that our brains understand the world that the mind and the body must negotiate. The adaptive unconscious makes it possible for us to, say, turn a corner in our car without having to go through elaborate calculations to determine the precise angle of the turn, the velocity of the automobile, the steering radius of the car. It is what can make us understand the correct meaning of statements like "prostitutes appeal to pope" or "children make nourishing snacks" without believing that they mean that the pope has an illicit life and cannibals are munching on children.

Consuming thoughts. Gerald Zaltman uses examples like these in many of his conversations. He may be an emeritus professor from the Harvard Business School, but he thinks about layers of consciousness like a neuroscientist. He is also a founding partner in Olson Zaltman Associates, a consulting firm that provides guidance to businesses seeking to better understand the minds--and in this case it is quite literally the minds--of consumers. As a professor of marketing, Zaltman obviously was very interested in figuring out what made people buy one thing and not the other. In the world of neuroscience, this goes to the heart of the profound questions of motivation. In the world of business, this goes to the bottom line.

When trying to probe the minds of consumers, Zaltman wondered if there was a way to move beyond the often-unreliable focus group to get at the true desires of consumers, unencumbered by other noise, which would finally result in more effective sales and marketing.

His solution became U.S. Patent No. 5,436,830, also known as the Zaltman Metaphor Elicitation Technique, which is, according to the patent, "a technique for eliciting interconnected constructs that influence thought and behavior." From Hallmark cards to Broadway plays, from Nestle's Crunch bars to the design for the new Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh, ZMET has been used to figure out how to craft a message so that consumers will respond with the important 95 percent of their brains that motivates many of their choices. How? Through accessing the deep metaphors that people, even without knowing it, associate with a particular product or feeling or place.

Language is limited, Zaltman says, "and it can't be confused with the thought itself." Images, however, move a bit closer to capturing fragments of the rich and contradictory areas of unconscious feelings. Participants in his studies cut out pictures that represent their thoughts and feelings about a particular subject, even if they can't explain why. He discovered that when people do this, they often discover "a core, a deep metaphor simultaneously embedded in a unique setting." They are drawn to seasonal or heroic myths, for example, or images like blood and fire and mother. They are also drawn into deep concepts like journey and transformation. His work around the world has convinced him that the menu of these unconscious metaphors is limited and universal, in the manner of human emotions like hope and grief.

And Zaltman has found that even grand metaphors have their practical applications. The architectural firm Astorino and the design firm Fathom asked Zaltman for help in designing a new children's hospital that would make a difficult experience somehow easier for children, their parents, and the people who work there. With the classic ZMET technique, children, parents, and staff members cut out pictures they somehow associated with the hospital and were then interviewed for nearly two hours about these pictures, exploring the thoughts, feelings, and associations that they triggered. A stream of metaphors emerged in the conversation. A child brought in a picture of a mournful-looking pug, which she colored blue "because he's kind of sad, and that's the way I feel when I'm in the ICU or just can't get out of my room."

After each picture was thoroughly analyzed by the participants, the images were scanned, and another interviewer with a computer and a talent for the Photoshop program sat with the parent, child, or staff member and created a collage, a personal Rorschach test of the images (box, Page 60). This snapshot of the participant's unconscious associations with the hospital was then enlarged to include personal narratives using the collage. The process is painstaking, but after the transcripts of these sessions are reviewed, even in all the enormous variety of human expression and emotion, core themes emerge. In the case of Children's Hospital, says Christine Astorino Del Sole of the Fathom firm, "the main metaphor was transformation, and the supporting metaphors were control, connection, and energy."

So how does that translate into the physical space? When patients and their families walk into the new hospital, which will be completed in 2008, they will be surrounded by images of butterflies, the ultimate symbol of transformation. Patient rooms will be more like home, and children will be able to exercise some control over their personal space. A huge garden, embodying transformation as well as energy and connection, will be visible from all rooms and accessible to children and their families. "Before, design was a guessing game; it was hit or miss," says Del Sole. "But we know now that at the deepest level this hospital has to be about transformation." So when a sick child, or a worried parent, or a harassed nurse walks into this hospital, a deep and reassuring recognition of the potential beauties of transformation will resonate unconsciously.

Waves of cola. Zaltman, obviously, is not the only person peering into the mind of the consumer. In a neuroscientific take on the time-honored blind taste test, Coke and Pepsi once again squared off. In Blink, Gladwell describes how the Coca-Cola Co. made a costly mistake in using data from blind taste tests between Coke and Pepsi--in which Pepsi was emphatically preferred by most cola drinkers--to change the recipe and create the marketing debacle that was New Coke. Still, even with a less preferred taste, Coke remains No. 1 in the soft-drink world. More recent research that was published after Gladwell's book was finished may explain why.

Researchers at Baylor College of Medicine offered 67 committed Coke and Pepsi drinkers a choice, and in blind testing, they preferred Pepsi. When they were shown the company logos before they drank, however, 3 out of 4 preferred Coke. The researchers scanned the brains of the participants during the test and discovered that the Coke label created wild activity in the part of the brain associated with memories and self-image, while Pepsi, though tasting better to most, did little to these feel-good centers in the brain. P. Reed Montague, director of the Brown Foundation Human Neuroimaging laboratory at Baylor, explained when the study was released last October: "There's a huge effect of the Coke label on brain activity related to the control of actions, the dredging up of memories and self-image." The mere red-and-white image of Coke made the hippocampus, our brain's vault of memories, and the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for many of our higher human brain functions like working memory and what is called executive function or control of behavior, light up. The point, says Montague, is that "there is a response in the brain which leads to a behavioral effect." And curiously, it has nothing to do with conscious preference.

The dog comes up and begins to sniff. If it remembers you, and you were a nice person, then instantly it wags its tail, perhaps even deigns to lick your wrist. It may avoid you. It may associate you with food or with a swift kick. And all those images, all those associations are evoked by one healthy whiff.

Aside from the basic inhibition against walking up to someone and sniffing, humans are no different. "An odor is not just a name--it is a whole context," says psychiatrist Dolores Malaspina of the New York State Psychiatric Institute and the Columbia University Medical Center. Olfactory information is "privileged," Malaspina explains, since it is the only one of our five senses that does not make a brief stop at the brain's relay station, the thalamus, before going to the ever so intellectual prefrontal cortex. Smell is unmediated, unfiltered, and it hits the prefrontal cortex with a wallop of intensity. Researchers have found that smell plays a strong role in our mating choices, even without our knowing it. And when female roommates synchronize their menstrual cycles, it is because the unconscious perception of odor sets off the endocrine system. Our brains, says Malaspina, "beginning with fetal development, are laid out to give precedence to olfactory perception."

But what happens if olfactory perception doesn't work properly? Malaspina and other researchers are looking at the olfactory sense in emotional disorders and have found some intriguing results. While schizophrenia is seen as a disorder of hallucinations and delusions, a more compelling and disruptive element of the disorder is social impairment. Some people with schizophrenia can't seem to read social cues, or manage social relationships, or summon a social context for whatever encounter they are experiencing. And while hallucinations and delusions can be controlled often through medication, these basic social impairments cause far more difficulty in dealing with the daily demands of life.

Research has shown that many people with schizophrenia can also suffer from "clinically meaningful olfactory impairment," which includes dysfunction in higher brain centers such as the parietal lobes--the part of the brain that's responsible for integrating sensory output so as to understand something, like reading social cues or contextualizing those cues. Just as a smell can elicit an immediate image of a particular time and place, lacking that ability can deprive someone of a basic social and emotional anchor in life. "What we are learning is that smell is a good window into the unconscious basis for sociability and social interest," says Malaspina. "There is a tremendous explosion of interest in this forgotten sense. And it was under our noses all the time."

The scenario occurs in hospital rooms throughout the world, thousands of times every day. A brain-damaged father or mother or child lies in bed, not completely unconscious, not in a coma, but demonstrating only flickering consciousness, small behaviors that show there is some evidence of the person who once was there, some evidence that this person perhaps knows friends and family members are near by. Medically, these patients are categorized as existing in a minimally conscious state of awareness; it is estimated that there are 100,000 to 300,000 Americans in such a state right now. Sometimes these patients are able to actually utter the name of an object or to follow a very simple command. But for friends and family, they are no longer themselves. And because they find language so difficult, it is also assumed that they are unlikely to follow conversations.

The eye of the mind? But in a stunning study published this month in the journal Neurology, researchers used functional magnetic resonance imaging to study the brains of two minimally conscious patients and compared them with the brains of seven healthy men and woman. The scans revealed that the minimally conscious patients had less than half of the brain activity of the others. But then all the subjects were played a tape made by a family member or friend, recounting happy memories and shared experiences. One minimally conscious man listened to his sister reminiscing about her wedding and about the toast that he made. The result was astonishing: All those who were scanned, including the minimally conscious patients, shared similar brain activity, some with activation in the visual cortex. "This shows that there is a life of the mind beyond what is apparent," says Joseph Fins, chief of the medical ethics division of New York-Presbyterian Hospital-Weill Cornell Medical Center. But Fins, who was not involved in the study, points out that philosophical questions also emerge. "Does this mean that they are seeing words? Visualizing semantic concepts? Does this in some way conceptualize consciousness?" As Zaltman points out, language is only the narrowest determination of our thoughts. This study shows that our brains, even damaged brains, are exquisitely attuned to that fact.

For the brain damaged and for the healthy, despite the evidence of the prevalence of the unconscious in our daily lives, even as fervent a believer as Zaltman urges a bit of caution. "I don't think we know what the batting average is for purely rational reasons or reasons dressed up that way, or reasons dressed up as purely intuition. Both can get us into trouble--often do. And both serve us well." It is that great tension between the two, the intermingling of the known and the unknown, the conscious and the unconscious, the 5 percent and the 95 percent, that the pioneers exploring this vast and intricate universe of our minds will continue to probe. But there will most likely never be a complete understanding. After all, the enigmas of the mind, and the mechanics of the brain, will forever define the ultimate mystery of simply being human.
 
An article that shows that our illusions about ourselves begin very early and it is only through others that we can discover the truth about who we are and how we really behave!

Playground peers can predict adult personalities
Clea Desjardins
Concordia University
Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:03 CDT
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/251490-Playground-peers-can-predict-adult-personalities

Concordia 20-year study shows childhood friends can forecast adulthood success.

Even on the playground, our friends know us better than we know ourselves. New research has revealed that your childhood peers from grade school may be able to best predict your success as an adult.

Lisa Serbin of the Department of Psychology at Concordia University and Alexa Martin-Storey, a recent Concordia graduate and a current post-doctoral student at the University of Texas - both members of the Concordia-based Centre for Research in Human Development - recently published a study online, which reveals that childhood peer evaluation of classmate personalities can more accurately predict adulthood success than self-evaluation at that age.

"This study, known as the Concordia Longitudinal Risk Project, was started in 1976 by my colleagues in the Department of Psychology, Alex Schwartzman and Jane Ledingham, who is now at the University of Ottawa" says Serbin. "Over two years, Montreal students in grades 1, 4 and 7 completed peer evaluations of their classmates and rated them in terms of aggression, likeability and social withdrawal. The students also did self-evaluations."

Over the next 20 years, these children were closely followed as researchers used the exhaustive longitudinal study to track their progress into adulthood. A follow-up survey was conducted between 1999 and 2003 with nearly 700 of the participants from the initial study. The survey included measurement of adult personality traits, such as levels of neuroticism, extroversion, openness, agreeableness and conscientiousness.

"We were able to compare peer and self-perceptions of the childhood behaviours to these adult personality factors," says Martin-Storey. "We found the evaluations from the group of peers were much more closely associated with eventual adult outcomes than were their own personality perceptions from childhood. This makes sense, since children are around their peers all day and behaviours like aggressiveness and likeability are extremely relevant in the school environment."

For example, children who perceived themselves as socially withdrawn exhibited less conscientiousness as adults. On the other hand, kids whose peers perceived them as socially withdrawn grew up to exhibit lower levels of extraversion. The latter being a more accurate association.

Peer-perceived likeability also predicted a more accurate outcome, associating the personality trait with higher levels of agreeableness and conscientiousness, and lower levels of neuroticism than those who thought of themselves as likeable. Overall, the findings supported the use of peer rather than self-ratings of childhood personalities in the prediction of adulthood success.

"Adult personality traits are associated with a lot of important life factors, such as health, mental health and occupational satisfaction," says Serbin. "The information from our study could be used to promote better longitudinal outcomes for children by helping kids and parents develop effective mechanisms for addressing aggressive or socially withdrawn behaviours and promoting more pro-social behaviour."
 
Thank you for this thread. :)

I am waiting for the book to arrive and have started reading the thread 'Thinking, Fast and Slow'.
I have also ordered that book.
I have always been intrigued by the unconscious, so I can't wait learning more about myself.

My eldest son has also started reading books about the brain, written by Ledoux, Sachs and Damasio. But also 'Blink', so I will show him these books as well.
 
There are more books coming out all the time. Incognito by neuroscientist David Eagleman is pretty interesting, as is Who's in Charge by Michael Gazzaniga. I felt the latter book was the more in-depth one, Gazzaniga having been the original "split brain" researcher.

Eagleman seems to be more concerned, ultimately, with proposing alternatives to our blame-based "justice" systems. I don't think he fully realizes how well the existing systems serve the PTB or how his ideas could be twisted toward other ends.
 
Megan said:
There are more books coming out all the time. Incognito by neuroscientist David Eagleman is pretty interesting, as is Who's in Charge by Michael Gazzaniga. I felt the latter book was the more in-depth one, Gazzaniga having been the original "split brain" researcher.

Eagleman seems to be more concerned, ultimately, with proposing alternatives to our blame-based "justice" systems. I don't think he fully realizes how well the existing systems serve the PTB or how his ideas could be twisted toward other ends.

Thanks Megan, I will have a look!

We watched a Ted talk yesterday:

http://www.ted.com/talks/scott_fraser_the_problem_with_eyewitness_testimony.html

Scott Fraser studies how humans remember crimes -- and bear witness to them. In this powerful talk, which focuses on a deadly shooting at sunset, he suggests that even close-up eyewitnesses to a crime can create "memories" they could not have seen. Why? Because the brain abhors a vacuum.

Scott Fraser is a forensic psychologist who thinks deeply about the fallibility of human memory and encourages a more scientific approach to trial evidence.

It was also interesting to hear how Fraser related his memories about 9/11 and how false they were!
 
'Your Brain at Work' A talk with 'neurocoach' David Rock. His angle is brain management or cognitive control. He talks of the benefits of knowing the adaptive system, recognizing it's coding and narratives. He also touches on brain growth through attention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJSXfXep4M

From his article : The Neuroscience of Mindfulness
Let's recap these ideas. You can experience the world through your narrative circuitry,
which will be useful for planning, goal setting, and strategizing. You can also experience
the world more directly, which enables more sensory information to be perceived.
Experiencing the world through the direct experience network allows you to get closer to
the reality of any event. You perceive more information about events occurring around
you, as well as more accurate information about these events. Noticing more real-time
information makes you more flexible in how you respond to the world. You also become
less imprisoned by the past, your habits, expectations or assumptions, and more able to
respond to events as they unfold.
In the Farb experiment, people who regularly practiced noticing the narrative and direct
experience paths, such as regular meditators, had stronger differentiation between the two
paths. They knew which path they were on at any time, and could switch between them
more easily. Whereas people who had not practiced noticing these paths were more likely
to automatically take the narrative path.
_http://breatheforcompassion.com/Downloads/The_Neuroscience_of_Mindfulness.pdf
 
parallel said:
'Your Brain at Work' A talk with 'neurocoach' David Rock. His angle is brain management or cognitive control. He talks of the benefits of knowing the adaptive system, recognizing it's coding and narratives. He also touches on brain growth through attention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJSXfXep4M

From his article : The Neuroscience of Mindfulness
_http://breatheforcompassion.com/Downloads/The_Neuroscience_of_Mindfulness.pdf

The author of the article, mentions the ‘medial prefrontal cortex'
The value of a secular approach
One of the reasons mindfulness can be difficult to talk about, in particular when discussing mindfulness with the busy people who run our companies and institutions, is that these people tend to spend little time thinking about themselves and other people, but a lot of time thinking about strategy, data, and systems. As a result, the circuits involved in thinking about oneself and other people, the medial prefrontal cortex, tend to be not too well developed

I’ve been trying to understand memory and this ‘Medial Prefrontal cortex’ is mentioned in a book called, ‘Pieces of Light’ The New Science of Memory by a Charles Fernyhough, just reading it as an introduction, the author mentions a study I though it interesting enough to quote it, though I don’t know in which regard, the author of mindfulness means by well developed.

From Pieces of Light
Its not just psychiatric patients who suffer from source monitoring errors from time to time.
{…snip…}
A study from Jon Simons’ lab at Cambridge recently showed that the presence of a particular fold in the anterior medial prefrontal cortex, known as the paracingulate sulcus, relates to people’s performance on experimental tests of reality monitoring. Participants with the fold were better able to distinguish between an event that had been imagined and one that had actually occurred, compared to those who lacked the fold.

Food for thought
 
Davida said:
parallel said:
'Your Brain at Work' A talk with 'neurocoach' David Rock. His angle is brain management or cognitive control. He talks of the benefits of knowing the adaptive system, recognizing it's coding and narratives. He also touches on brain growth through attention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJSXfXep4M

From his article : The Neuroscience of Mindfulness
_http://breatheforcompassion.com/Downloads/The_Neuroscience_of_Mindfulness.pdf

The author of the article, mentions the ‘medial prefrontal cortex'
The value of a secular approach
One of the reasons mindfulness can be difficult to talk about, in particular when discussing mindfulness with the busy people who run our companies and institutions, is that these people tend to spend little time thinking about themselves and other people, but a lot of time thinking about strategy, data, and systems. As a result, the circuits involved in thinking about oneself and other people, the medial prefrontal cortex, tend to be not too well developed

I’ve been trying to understand memory and this ‘Medial Prefrontal cortex’ is mentioned in a book called, ‘Pieces of Light’ The New Science of Memory by a Charles Fernyhough, just reading it as an introduction, the author mentions a study I though it interesting enough to quote it, though I don’t know in which regard, the author of mindfulness means by well developed.

Regarding the Medial Prefrontal cortex, the anterior cingulate, amygdala and other areas relating to memory and emotion, there is an interesting book by Joseph LeDoux - The Emotional Brain: The Mysterious Underpinnings of Emotional Life.
I was reading it recently and found it helpful to understand the relations between emotion regulation, potentiation of memory, the types of memory and other related processes.
 
Interesting indeed, This reminds me of a chapter in Laura's book "Secret History". This particular chapter is called "The Chemistry of Alchemy". From this chapter I maybe able to relate this quote

"Gathering false knowledge is worse than gathering no knowledge at all"

That being said gaining appropriate information based on truth and facts so as not to be prejudice. If one gains false information and establishes a particular belief, which in turn makes them narrow minded to new information. This has also been said in the documentary of "Athens Theory of everything". She then explains this in terms of physiology as regards to brain analogy. Which is explain as the process of ligands and receptors, ligands being able to bend to a receptor. Depending on the shape and frequency of the molecule determines if the receptor is a match. Therefore I will relate my next qoute...

"Binding oneself to that which is false may produce temporary "feel Good" results, but in the long run it not only blocks the possiblity of binding TRUTH, it perpetuates itself by reducing the ability to perceive/bind with truth at ALL."

As a result of this I came to the realization of how powerful and destructive religions can be. In a documentary I watched, it explained firstly how a child has about 300 billion neurons. At an early stage of a childs developing brian it makes quadrilion connections. It makes so many connections because it is unable to eliminate those connections from which it considers unimportant. Therefore, as the child brain develope it is being program to make the important connections. It is determining which connections to make as a result of their environment. Overall, their parents and environment determines what connection they will make at that early age. And I think this is a scary thought considering the mass programing of society.

But to relate back to the ligands and receptors and their binding potentials. Laura brung up a very interesting point, She says that in the process of bonding the molecules and electrons they take on a specific geometric shape. She theorized that all the myths and secrets maybe nothing more than scientific terms. That just it "Athens theory of everything" proposed at the end of its documentary; that scientific understandings or even knowledge itself consist's manly of probabilities.

The point being this:
To gather, gather, gather information and observation without any ingestion
and with this gives man the ability to avoid the the do it again or feel good sensation. With this is the exception of networking and not lying to one self. And most important man will develope their will to be or BEING.

So to my personal question, this topic describe the conscious and subconscious mind as having two different functions. Subconscious assessing paterns quickly and make fast connections amongst knew and old data. While conscious is a little slower and involves more with the now and thinking process. I remeber reading something describing the fact of, while asleep your brain assesses all information and try to make sense of it. Or if you think of meditation that might also have similar function.

My question being, does the subconscious collects information then gives it to the conscious to make sense of it? Considering what I have described above. Does acquiring the appropriate information as to make objective connections within your subconscious, makes it easier for you to consciously control your machine? (besides networking which is equally important).
 
celtic said:
My question being, does the subconscious collects information then gives it to the conscious to make sense of it? Considering what I have described above. Does acquiring the appropriate information as to make objective connections within your subconscious, makes it easier for you to consciously control your machine? (besides networking which is equally important).

Fwiw, think acquiring appropriate information helps knit back together what was programmed out (re wired) as in the child you were discussing, and gives further awareness of one’s own machine - past and present, and if aware, there is the possibility of controlling (by degree) the machinery of self.

There was this on the Subconscious:

(L) Well, when one is dealing with psychology, what would be the best approach... what is the true aspect of the self or the being that one should inquire into in order to heal? A: Subconscious mind. Q: (V) Is the statement that psychology studies emotions, is that a fair statement? A: No. Subconscious is same in body or out. Q: (V) The subconscious is part of the soul? A: One and same. Q: (V) Is the higher self the same as the soul and the subconscious? A: Yes.
 
voyageur said:
celtic said:
My question being, does the subconscious collects information then gives it to the conscious to make sense of it? Considering what I have described above. Does acquiring the appropriate information as to make objective connections within your subconscious, makes it easier for you to consciously control your machine? (besides networking which is equally important).

Fwiw, think acquiring appropriate information helps knit back together what was programmed out (re wired) as in the child you were discussing, and gives further awareness of one’s own machine - past and present, and if aware, there is the possibility of controlling (by degree) the machinery of self.

There was this on the Subconscious:

(L) Well, when one is dealing with psychology, what would be the best approach... what is the true aspect of the self or the being that one should inquire into in order to heal? A: Subconscious mind. Q: (V) Is the statement that psychology studies emotions, is that a fair statement? A: No. Subconscious is same in body or out. Q: (V) The subconscious is part of the soul? A: One and same. Q: (V) Is the higher self the same as the soul and the subconscious? A: Yes.

Thanks for the response voyageur, subconscious is clearly an important aspect of ones mind. And it is probably safe to say that once you become aware of your subconscious workings consciously, you are better able to have some influence over your machine.
 
Correct me if im wrong but after reading 60% of this thread it is my educated guess that the 4D STS and other entities are able to tap into our unconscious/subconscious mind and this is one of the ways they interfere with us? Was the unconscious/subconscious part of our brain given to us after the fall? That is why it is important to stay "Present" "In the moment" conscious?... When I was in a group that focused on being present in the moment there was definitely a certain energy that was present when I would leave the room I would notice patters and shapes in the tiles or on the wall paper as well as other things around me they would jump out at me. Then after lets say 20min of being away from the energy in the group it faded away and I went back to day dreaming or being unconcious/subconcious. I try to stay in the moment during my current daily activities. Unloading the dishwasher, doing laundry but it is very hard to constantly be present/unconscious. After 3-5min I notice the random thoughts then after 10 consciousness is gone
 
Menna said:
Correct me if im wrong but after reading 60% of this thread it is my educated guess that the 4D STS and other entities are able to tap into our unconscious/subconscious mind and this is one of the ways they interfere with us?

I would think so. At least at its lowest level, the unconscious mind is closely related to the physical body and drives instinctive behaviors. C's have said that 4D technology can be used to affect the body and provoke various emotions and behaviors.

[quote author=Laura in High Strangeness]
Q:(L) Do any of the STS beings have the abilityto cause us physical problems, or mental or emotional problems when not in direct contact with us?

A: Certainly

Q:(L) How is this done?
A: A number of different methods used .............

Sound wave manipulation of the ultra high frequency range would be one.

Q:(L) What do these sound waves in the ultra high frequencies do?

A: They can alter chemical balances within the body of the subject, thereby also the brain, using the physical path to cause distress by altering these chemical imbalances in place.

Q:(L)DO these ultra high frequency sound waves ever carry messages in terms of precoded suggestions that are triggered by these waves?

A: Messages are not carried in ultra high frequency sound waves. Now you are talking about an entirely different method.


Q:(L) Alright then, moving on to another subject, how are precoded information signals sent? Can messages be sent via sound wave focusing?

A: No, sound wave focusing is designed to alter body and brain chemistry in order to alter such things as feelings, emotions, and so forth, which then may lead to the altering of mental thought patterns. But messages are not sent by ultra high frequency sound waves.

Q:(L) How are they sent?

A: Messages are sent by something called Free Formal Imaging which means that a thought is formed in one realm and sent to a second realm, which is yours.

Q:(L) Ok. Can it be sent to a directed target?
A: Absolutely
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HAARP is also said to affect brainwave patterns.

[quote author=C's]
A: We told you that “HAARP” was being designated for capturing and modulating electromagnetic fields for the purpose of total control of brainwave patterns in order to establish a system of complete “order on the surface of the planet” in either 3rd or 4th density.
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These technologies are used to affect our bodies and brains directly or alter something in our environment to which we are instinctively tuned to respond through our adaptive unconscious mind - at least that is my present understanding. Human technologies can have similar effects too - as is demonstrated in psychological experiments which affect the background situation or environment as described in the book as well as other techniques like NLP.

[quote author=Menna]
That is why it is important to stay "Present" "In the moment" conscious?
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The adaptive unconscious mind stays in the present and works through instinctive responses to protect the organism from perceived harm. These basic self-protective instinctive drives are hardwired in all animals and human beings. Human beings have the further capacity for a "reflective" type of consciousness which is able to stand apart from whatever is going on (non-identification) and take a wider view of situation - which can mean considering the past and future along with the present. The pre-frontal cortex seems to be the seat for such a reflective consciousness. When it can stand apart from the influence exerted by emotions governed by the unconscious processes (as in keeping the emotions from running the thinking process or keeping the head free and cool), we can actually be "present" in the moment in a fuller sense - osit.
 
I had just finished reading this book, and wanted to share a quote from the book that stuck out to me, reminding me of the importance of networking and this forum.

George Cooley labeled this form of self-knowledge the "looking glass self": we see our reflection in other people's eyes, namely how they view our personalities, preferences, and behaviors, and often adopt that reflection-called the reflected appraisal-as part of our self-concept. The beauty of this approach is that it avoids many of the pitfalls we have seen with looking inward. We don't have any special access to our own feelings and traits; it is self-knowledge by consensus, whereby we adopt the majority opinion of what we are like.

There are many obstacles, however, to recognizing that people see us differently than we see ourselves, and to admitting that they are right and we are wrong. Further, it is not clear that we always should base our self-views on what others think, especially if those others do not share our high opinion of ourselves.

The integrity and dedication of the group or network seems to be important here, as illusion or delusion from a group of people could lead us to adopt a self-concept that instead of leading us towards truth does the opposite. Made me thankful I had found this forum when I read that.

Another short quote from the book (he was writing about the effect of advertising) that connects with this was:

Consequently, we can be influenced in unwanted ways without being aware that we are being influenced. Nancy Brekke and I termed this "mental contamination", because our minds can unknowingly become "polluted" with information we would rather not have influence us.

Could this also be a part of what the C's meant about not allowing negative things (i.e. thoughts, movies, music, etc.) into us and "calling a spade a spade"? I realize this was discussed in another thread, so I apologize if it is noise.
 

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