The Living Force
Yes, the study of complex languages has been shown to improve one's analytic thinking processes. However, the aim of this forum is to improve our ability to perceive ourselves, others, and the world around us from an OBJECTIVE perspective, which is another matter entirely.Athanasius said:If any of yours – I mean , if even one of yours – has seems to find the possibility of serious self-improvement in learn hungarian… and – most importantly – after when he/she has mastered the language and will find that it has really and significantly improved his/her thinking processes....
The ideas of Gurdjieff, as they relate to that aim, are integral to this forum. If you're not familiar with Gurdjieff, please take the time to read some basic information about his 4th Way teaching, generally referred to here as "the Work", by clicking on the links in this paragraph. It is a method of self-examination recommended to and practiced by most members of this forum, as a way of seeing ourselves, others, and the world around us from the perspective of OBJECTIVITY, rather through the distorting prism of our own SUBJECTIVITY -- i.e., our emotional issues, programs, mechanical behaviour, buffers, sacred cows, and wishful thinking. The Work benefits from active participation in a group/network like this, where others also involved in the Work can provide feedback and act as a mirror in which we can see ourselves more clearly.
Improving one's analytic thinking processes via the study of complex languages is NOT the equivalent of achieving "improved consciousness". "Consciousness" (i.e., "awareness") can only be achieved through the daily discipline of self-observation, and a persistent effort to reduce one's subjective perceptions in favour of objectivity. That is not a purely intellectual, analytical endeavour, but a task that involves our entire being, including the complex emotional/psychological issues that may cloud our "thinking processes".Athanasius said:the paramount importance will be the favorable result of the use of this pre-language on you – your improved consciousness
You refer to those reading your posts as "fellow spiritual travellers". Yet there has been little in your voluminous posts thus far that indicate any particular interest in or knowledge and practice of "spiritual" matters. To be frank, your posts -- while impeccably researched -- demonstrate an exclusive and rather obssessive preoccupation and over-identification with all things Hungarian. Which would fit right in if this were a forum devoted to Hungarian studies. But it is not.
If you are sincerely interested in the aims and purpose of this forum, it would be useful for you to try and raise your own "consciousness" (i.e. "awareness") about yourself, by examining why you have such a strong compulsion to post exclusively "pro-Hungarian" messages on a forum such as this. Will we see some evidence of the "improved consciousness" that your Hungarian studies have allegedly given you, or will we simply see more of the same from you -- i.e. long posts devoted exclusively to YOUR favourite subjects, but sorely lacking in External Consideration towards other forum members and a clear understanding of what this forum is about?