Azur said:I quite agree. Sarcasm is a power ploy. Usually employed to pull the target back into some accepted social norm that is relative to both parties, albeit one that is more important to the originator.Mountain Crown said:Often quite revealing, sarcasm unfortunately reduces a conversation to self importance issues, undermining the topic at hand. It's very difficult to reconcile it with the practice of external consideration.
So, Avala, what is really bugging you? You obviously identify on some level, but it's not clear why you reacted (on your own admission).
You are right, there is some identifying, which comes from the recognizing the way of thinking presented here by Athanasius. You can read more about that from Corto Maltese's answer to Athanasius in this thread http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13149.msg96144#msg96144 I think that he explains it good.
I am also originally from the same ex-country as CM is, so I know where such line of thinking could lead (and it usually leads that ugly end). So when I read something like that it is big alert for me.
And I don't think that someone who reads sott articles and even a little bit of Secret history of the world (Athanasius stated that he has read some articles) can have such way of thinking, he is not read them or didn't understand them at all. That just my impression of that.
Another reason why I couldn't resist and was provoked to write something is frustration. By that I mean following, when someone asks you something and you tell him the answer, he didn't understands it and comes back again and asks you the same, you say it to him again, and he keeping not to understanding it and keeping coming back . . . well, I want to say that in such cases sometimes I lose my patience and react.
Big part in that "losing patience and reacting" plays that "keeping coming back" factor. I mean how to tell something to someone who has wall around him, but yet keeping pull you by the sleeve and asking the same question.
I am aware that it is hard STS and that is not mine to determine needs (or thoughts in this case) of another, but that's how I can see it right now (or maybe more precise "what I am at this moment")