The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!

thorbiorn said:
If anyone is interested this is the link to DMI with a graph of the estimated volume of ice sheet over Greenland (buttom graph) with the daily gain og loss (top graph) The latest is:
accumulatedsmb.png

For more detail check http://www.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/
The total amount of ice in the arctic appears to be on the low side:
osisaf_nh_iceextent_daily_5years_en.png

Perhaps it is because the temperatures have been above average.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2017.png
With the good amounts of snow the Arctic Circle Race in Sisimiut in western Greenland should have a fair chance. If you like to know about this experience of an Ice Age, there are various Youtubes and stories from the Arctic Circle Race like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZovZfple2ig or http://www.skiclub.co.uk/skiclub/news/story.aspx?storyID=9429#.WLLQMX_HVao
 
Pierre said:
Altair said:
Pierre said:
thorbiorn said:
In the last post, I left out some folks, here we go, this own shows the Northern hemisphere, but it does not cover all the seas, or is is just that tilt of the Earth shifted?
http://ice.tsu.ru/files/paul/WorldLGMr.jpg

Earth shift is a definite possibility. Do you know to what period (which ice age) this ice cover model refers to?

Here is an article in English with this image: _http://www.qpg.geog.cam.ac.uk/lgmextent.html

This map for the northern hemisphere Last Glacial Maximum (Weichselian, Valdaian, Würmian, Devensian, Wisconsinan, MIS 2) was compiled by Jürgen Ehlers for 2005 from data and maps assembled and published in the books Quaternary glaciations - Extent and Chronology by Jürgen Ehlers & Philip Gibbard (Elsevier, 2004). A second map compiled plotted onto a Google Earth north polar view is now available below in static form but it is planned to make these maps interactive with Google Earth shortly.

Thanks for finding the answer.

The model suggests a North geographic pole located in Canada during the last glacial maximum. At the end of this ice age (around 12500 BCE), a comet might have hit Hudson Bay, this comet following an almost tangential trajectory and travelling towards the South-East could have shifted the North pole to a position closer to its current one.

That might explain why during the younger dryas (c. 12500 BCE), most regions experienced a sudden cooling except Northern America (because it moved away from the pole). It would also explain the location and orientation of the Carolina Bays (South East of Hudson Bay).

Yes, interesting that that could have been the case, and it does account/align with the Carolina Bays.

Thanks for that link, thorbiorn. Noticed the discussion around their BALTEEM project - the Baltics and also the Baltic sea from the same link. Velikovski discussed the findings in geology of some of the lakes in the U.S's West, North West as having been tipped up and drained. The science then suggested the lakes were not more than 3100 - 3500 yrs old, with a detailed study of the salts in the sediments beds if remembered. The link referenced above (Quaternary Palaeoenvironments Group) includes "palaeooceanography, archaeology, geochronology, sedimentology, stratigraphy, palaeobotany, dendrochronology, micropalaeontology and palaeoecology" yet it is unfortunate (if it is the case) that there is no interaction with astrophysicist etc. in the group (the other side of the coin), yet their findings should be interesting nonetheless.
 
Side Note: 21.C' yesterday. This morning, light snow on the ground, and moderate amounts on the mountains. Near the Border of Spain, and France.

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Blizzard Hawaii Peaks, Pakistan Avalanches Floods Unearth 7th Century Lunar Calendar Iran (323)

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Isolated Arkari valley citizens urge govt for help 46 avalanches https://www.sott.net/article/343990-1...
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Heavy Flood Uncovers Medieval Cemetery in Iran https://www.sott.net/article/344162-H...
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Pilot captures photos of apocalyptic-looking lightning storm looming over the Amazon
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Blizzard Warning Hawaii and several inches of Snow http://kdvr.com/2017/03/02/hawaii-got...
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Looks cold up there. Brrrr. ;)
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The National Weather Service issued a blizzard warning in Hawaii this week. While that may sound peculiar, it’s not all that extraordinary. It snows nearly every year on the Big Island’s tallest mountains, where the warning was issued.

Hawaii Had More Snow This Week Than Denver Or Chicago Has Had All Year
_http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hawaii-snow-denver-chicago_us_58ba1e31e4b05cf0f400c753

But during that blizzard, which lasted late Tuesday to early Wednesday, the Big Island received more snow than Denver has received all year, according to Fox 31 Denver.

Indeed, this week’s blizzard left up to 8 inches of snow on Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa, which are both more than 13,000 feet high, USA Today reported. Denver, on the other hand, has had a total of only 7.9 inches of snow measured in 2017. However, the Mile High City has had 19.3 inches of snow for the winter season, according to CBS Denver.

The Big Island’s peaks even saw more snow than Chicago, which documented zero snow on the ground in January and February for the first time in 146 years, The Chicago Tribune reported.

Chicago’s measurements don’t include any snow that may have fallen and melted after 6 a.m., which is when the National Weather Service measures the snow. Some experts are chalking up Chicago’s lack of snow to climate change, according to the Tribune.

“This is occurring against a backdrop of a changing climate,” Tom Skilling, a Chicago meteorologist told the newspaper. “I think the door is open to additional unusual weather events as we go forward.”

And the Aloha State’s blizzard was particularly strong.

“The reason for the snow amounts being heavier than we usually see is that the upper low (pressure system) really persisted down there, that has allowed colder air to remain locked in place,” Andrew Orrison, a forecaster for the National Weather Service’s Weather Prediction Center, told Reuters on Thursday.

But don’t let the Big Island’s recent show of snow fool you: The islands are not taking over as the next premiere ski destination.

The Hawaii Snow Ski Club website states that Mauna Kea’s summit only “sometimes gets a skiable/boardable mantle of snow.”

“There are no lifts, no grooming, no resort,” the website says. “Conditions at the top are extremely variable.”

The club also warns that “snow conditions on Mauna Kea may not be the best in the world.”
 
Storm Leaves 600,000 French Households Without Power
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2017/03/06/1488794898_weathermap.jpg
According to French electricity grid operator Enedis, winter storm Zeus which unleashed hurricane-force winds across much of southern France, has left more than 600,000 French households without power as of 4pm on Monday. The company's website advises that the power cuts have affected 175,000 customers in Brittany, 190,000 in Auvergne Rhone Alpes, 130,000 in Nouvelle Aquitaine, 80,000 in Pays de Loire, and the company advises that more than 3,500 technicians from Enedis are working in the field to deal with “very major” storm damage.

Earlier in the day, The Local reported that weather warnings are in place for large swathes of France as wind speeds hit over 190km/hr on Monday. National weather agency Météo France updated the number of departments on orange alert to 31 on Monday morning, as fierce winds lashed much of the country. The town of Camaret, in Brittany, already saw record winds of 193km/hr during Monday morning, reported Europe 1 radio.

Map:
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2017/03/06/1488794898_weathermap_0.jpg

An orange alert is the second highest alert on the agency's scale, and urges residents to be vigilant.

Winds are expected to reach up to 150km/hr on Brittany's coastline and 120km/hr inland. Heavy rainfall has been predicted in some areas too. The agency said that residents could expect "significant damage" caused by the wind and disruptions to local traffic.

It warned that there was a possibility of cuts to electricity and telephone lines, and as noted above, this is precisely what has happened. The agency warned residents in affected areas to stay off the rooftops and to secure objects that are liable to be blown away.

Elswhere, the entire island of Corsica was issued an orange alert for flood risks as well as "particularly strong winds". Residents were told to avoid getting too close to the sea, or indeed anywhere that was already flooded. The warnings are in place until Tuesday at 10am.

Prévisions Météo-France du 7 au 13 mars 2017

Study warns Venice could disappear in 100 years
Published on Mar 6, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh0zO8Gh4kE
A new study warns climate change is rapidly changing the landscape of Italy. Canal-laden Venice is one of the cities that is most at risk of disappearing if nothing is done to stop rising sea levels and coastal flooding

Meteo France Vendredi 10 mars
http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-france/metropole
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NASA | Aquarius Observations of Sea Surface Salinity
Published on Mar 6, 2017
This visualization shows changes in global sea surface salinity, as measured by NASA's Aquarius instrument aboard the Aquarius/SAC-D spacecraft, from December 2011 through December 2012. Red represents areas of high salinity, while blue represents areas of low salinity. Aquarius is a focused effort to measure sea surface salinity and will provide the global view of salinity variability needed for climate studies. The mission is a collaboration between NASA and the Space Agency of Argentina (Comisión Nacional de Actividades Espaciales).

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SOLAR EXPLOSION MISSES EARTH: A coronal mass ejection (CME) billowed away from the eastern limb of the sun during the late hours of March 5th. Because the explosion was so so far off the sun-Earth line, it is unlikely to affect our planet. Movie
http://spaceweather.com/images2017/06mar17/cme_anim.gif?PHPSESSID=56h08508mn79lv6t68g45eerh7

Daily Sun: 06 Mar 17 Image
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New sunspot AR2641 is tiny and poses no threat for strong solar flares. Credit: SDO/HMI

Near Earth Asteroids Chart 3-6-17
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I think the winds here were only about 80 to 90 kmh and that only in gusts. But a strong wind was almost constant.
 
Laura said:
I think the winds here were only about 80 to 90 kmh and that only in gusts. But a strong wind was almost constant.

The maximum wind speeds were reached in Brittany (Finistere) with 193 km/h (120 mph). According to meteorologists, Zeus was the strongest storm since the series of two storms (Lothar and Martin) that struck Europe in 1999
 
Pierre said:
Laura said:
I think the winds here were only about 80 to 90 kmh and that only in gusts. But a strong wind was almost constant.

The maximum wind speeds were reached in Brittany (Finistere) with 193 km/h (120 mph). According to meteorologists, Zeus was the strongest storm since the series of two storms (Lothar and Martin) that struck Europe in 1999

I have know idea of what that might be like. So, i got-sta know.

120MPH


The agency warned residents in affected areas to stay off the rooftops and to secure objects that are liable to be blown away

Who would want to be on there roof, under condition's like this?

Love the news, never anything relevant on the media in France.

The farmers here are very intelligent, and resourceful. And i will always watch, and take (and be ready to give), there subtle Q's (to the changes), with heart and soul.
 
Published on Feb 28, 2017
Jake Miille Photography
On February 25th, 2017, the rotary snow plows returned to Donner Pass to battle the heavy Sierra Snow along the UP Roseville Subdivision.
The rotaries are somewhat of a legend along the railroad. Only used every 10 years or so, the rotaries are rarely seen. Flangers and spreaders work tirelessly through the winter months to keep the tracks open. When they cannot keep up with Mother Nature, the railroad turns to the rotaries. "They were sometimes called War Wagons" said retired Southern Pacific superintendent Bill Lynch, "Going to war against Mother Nature."

It has been a difficult winter for the Union Pacific Roseville Division. Intense storms have dropped over 13 feet of snow in the mountains, making it difficult to move trains along the Donner Pass Route (Roseville to Sparks via Truckee). The Feather River Route, which can often alleviate rail traffic from Donner Pass, has been closed for weeks due to massive washouts near Portola.

 
Regarding Greenland and the ice sheet, in a previous post there was this image
_http://www.dmi.dk/typo3temp/pics/04b37e48b0.png
04b37e48b0.png

On the one hand it show that more snow has fallen this year. Overall, they say the ice sheet is loosing mass:
_http://www.dmi.dk/typo3temp/pics/bb90202056.png
bb90202056.png

The loss of mass is not evenly distributed:
_http://www.dmi.dk/typo3temp/pics/a9c3f0e558.png
The map shows the average between 1990 and 2013. Blue is gaining Red is loosing.
a9c3f0e558.png


The reason for the large snowfall in Southern and Eastern Greenland has been a warm Winter. Warm air can carry more humidity, which then, because the temperature is still below 0C, falls as snow.
 
can we clarify, as best we can, whether one should try to make provisions for mini ice age, in terms of preparation food storage etc.
the reason for the question is I recall the C's saying at one time not to waste time on such things.
 
seeker of light said:
can we clarify, as best we can, whether one should try to make provisions for mini ice age, in terms of preparation food storage etc.
the reason for the question is I recall the C's saying at one time not to waste time on such things.

I believe that particular reference is for those who have made this particular incantation at this (3DSTS), as there stepping stone.

To be more in tune (while giving of those that ask), with graduation by riding the wave out here, before all the cataclysms.

So it's almost as important to stay balanced, and finish all the inner Work as means to make the jump.

Those that don't will needed to make provisions to accommodate being left behind.

But i also suspect that there are some whom have incarnated to stay behind and aide other's during the time of great turmoil.

Thus increasing there frenquecy to another density other than 4Dsto. That is my limited humble opinion.

So just care on, give it all your best, and ride the Wave. Other's would have a better take on it.

"There's no place like home"
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ6VT7ciR1o
 
I believe that particular reference is for those who have made this particular incantation at this (3DSTS), as there stepping stone.

To be more in tune (while giving of those that ask), with graduation by riding the wave out here, before all the cataclysms.

So it's almost as important to stay balanced, and finish all the inner Work as means to make the jump.

Those that don't will needed to make provisions to accommodate being left behind.

But i also suspect that there are some whom have incarnated to stay behind and aide other's during the time of great turmoil.

Thus increasing there frenquecy to another density other than 4Dsto. That is my limited humble opinion.

So just care on, give it all your best, and ride the Wave. Other's would have a better take on it.


Thanks for the reply, I contemplated this myself this afternoon, that perhaps if one is ready it will not be a problem, however as you say for those left behind (probably me) knowledge protects, to help others perhaps not such a bad thing,
:)
 
Heavy snows will delay opening of N. Cascades Highway Road may not be cleared until early June
http://methowvalleynews.com/2017/03/31/heavy-snows-will-delay-opening-of-n-cascades-highway/

An unusually massive accumulation of snow on the North Cascades Scenic Highway corridor will delay the opening of that vital tourism route to motor traffic until possibly as late as June, the Washington State Department of Transportation (WSDOT) said in a press release last week.

That would make it one of the latest openings in the 45-year history of the North Cascades portion of State Route 20.

The deep snow is good news for local rivers and water supplies this summer, but has made conditions so treacherous for road-clearing crews that the usual starting date for WSDOT work on the highway has been moved from mid-March to April 10.

It could take up to eight weeks to clear the road, WSDOT said, which would mean that traffic may not be able to use the route until early June.

That would affect not only the annual ’49er Days celebration in Winthrop, scheduled for May 12–14, but also Memorial Day activities including the Methow Valley Rodeo.

“The latest reopening ever was … June 14, 1974,” WSDOT said in the release. “If the clearing effort takes a full eight weeks, this year’s reopening could extend beyond Memorial Day into June.”

The depth of snow covering the road, and the potential for avalanches — particularly in the “chutes” at the hairpin turn just below Washington Pass — “make it unsafe to begin any clearing work earlier than April 10,” WSDOT said.

“The volume of snow through the 34-mile closed section is responsible for the up to eight-week estimate to reopen,” the release said.

[...] During WSDOT’s first assessment trip on March 16, WSDOT avalanche and maintenance staff found snow over the road up to 25 feet deep below four of the 11 Cutthroat Ridge avalanche chutes, according to the release. Below Liberty Bell Mountain, the three main chutes were still full and had 35- to 45-foot accumulations on the highway below them.

“Even Whistler, between Washington and Rainy Passes, had dumped 15 feet onto the highway, three times more than recorded in the past decade,” the release said.
 
All eyes are on the Larsen C ice shelf in Antarctica, where an iceberg 2,000 square miles in area will soon break away. The only thing keeping the chunk of ice attached to its shelf is a 12-mile “thread” that could vanish at any time.

Melting Away: Chunk of Antarctic Ice Shelf Hanging ‘By a Thread’
https://sputniknews.com/environment/201704041052297771-antarctic-ice-shelf-nearly-broken/

Larsen C began to calve in summer 2016, and the crack grew rapidly, from 300 feet wide in November to 1,500 feet in February. The crack first formed in 2010 but seemed on the verge of breaking away entirely once calving began, having grown to 110 miles long.

Since February, though, the growth of the crack has slowed to a crawl. "It is particularly hard to predict when it will occur," said Adrian Luckman of Project MIDAS, a British government group that has been monitoring Larsen C for years, in an email to USA Today. "I am quite surprised as to how long it is holding on!"

There may be more surprises coming, however, as Luckman pointed out that, "this is not a predictable process because we know only a little about the nature of the ice. It could go today, or it may be months."

Ice shelves already float on top of the water, so the breakaway of a chunk of Larsen C won't raise sea levels very much. A relatively small amount of ice trapped in the ice shelf will fall into the sea when the iceberg completes the process.

The Larsen ice shelf has been slowly disintegrating over the last few decades, with Larsen A breaking away in 1995 and Larsen B in 2002. Larsen C itself isn't going to break away, just a piece of it that makes up about a tenth of its overall area. The piece is still quite large, a good bit larger than the US state of Rhode Island.

Gigantic as the crack is, it will not create a new iceberg. The object will float into the sea, break apart into pieces and then melt into the ocean, according to Project MIDAS.

But for a brief moment between calving and dissolving, the Larsen C chunk will be the fifth largest iceberg on record.
 
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