The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!


The Living Force
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Well imagine that. Cold here...! But snow no the ground yet. Came into the hills heavy (and all above, to the mountains), over the last 72hrs.
Oh, if you click the link and see the picture, Uya think.. there in there? :shock:

News | November 7, 2019 Derek Maiolo
3-4 Minute Read:

The first temperatures under -30 ° C of the season are recorded tonight in Europe, Nikkaluokta in northern Sweden.

New episode of #neige between Saturday evening and Sunday. he will fall 10 to 20cm extra on the #pyreneeslocally 30 with a snow-and-snow limit at 900m. Meteociel



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There was an article on SOTT here 'Successive Arctic plunges could bring North America to its knees' that looks to solar activity, jet stream and general cooling conditions (some good charts were added). However (and it reminded me to listen to these two parts again) was attached with Laura and Pierre's interview with the Adapt 2030 guy.

It was great listing to both these talks (from December 2018) as a refresher, so bumping them up here for any who did not catch them:

At the end of the second part, Gunnar Heinsohn comes up
in discussion by Laura of the possible 700 missing years or so from our world timeline - there was a post (can't find it now) that cites a C's session whereby the C's said of Caesar's birth it was 1,6.. something years ago in our timeline. So, whatever happened to displace this missing time was indeed a doozy of change.

this post Pashalis offers up 'Climate Spasms and Cultural Shifts...' whereby Randall Carlson looks into the soils, oceans and rock citing two things: a time/location where the land has been stripped bare of what was once there and a time/location where what was there completely changed (was added upon).

This is an example that I had from a publication on Glaciation depicting a valley (think it was in the Yukon) that actually resembles closely, less the snow, the valley where I live:


This photo looks so close that it leaves me to ponder a bit. Here in the photo above, the snow fills the valley basin - let's say there is around 1,700 meters of snow below the rock tips. With great winds in time, the rock could, and may well have been windblown, helping to further add snow into the valley basin. The valley at home is about the same and those rock peaks contain, here and there, old glaciation deposits yet to melt (and some appear to be growing). However I can't exactly tell how deep this valley above descends other than the estimate, and it may look, based on the angels, to bottom out in a more narrow channel deep down (or not).

Now Carlson (and the evidence of glaciation melt-off), depending on how quickly it happened; and it may have been very quick, speaks of a landscape changed, such as in the case of the valley where I live whereby the soils on the slopes and up slope would have been stripped and deposited in the valley below raising its level from whatever the basin originally looked like by possibly hundreds of meters (clay/silts). Furthermore, the hydrology that did this would have ripped downstream with such incredible force, leaving the valley for the plains, scouring great clefs and pushing up lands with unrecognizable change from whatever it was like, such as depicted in this photo (Turkey):


So, one can see excellent examples from the air of this scouring from South of Alberta into the US as those ancient landlocked norther oceans let loose.

There has been a lot of change in every quarter of the world, all punctuated by cosmic and planet core influences - with timelines all over the map that are pieced together as best as possible or to provide a sense of looooong periods that may be much tighter together with changes being rather abrupt.




The Living Force
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Unseasonable cold not just in North America -

I wonder how much ice will melt at −44°C (-47F).

On November 11 in Yakutia, the daily temperature never rose above −30°C (-22F). Some parts of Siberia were even colder: In Evenkia and the northern regions of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, the temperature dropped to −41 ... −44°C.

This temperature is considered very low for this time of year.

"""It is important to note that this is not a short-term cooling, but a prolonged atmospheric process. Further it will become even colder. The cold anomaly will expand."""

In the Khanty-Mansiysk District night temperatures will drop to −25 ... −30°C, and in places to −37°C. In the north of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, you can count on −38 ... −43°C.

In the Irkutsk region, nightly values will decrease to −30 ... −35°C.

In Tomsk Oblast, the prevailing temperature at night will be −23 ... −28°C.

Cooling to a lesser extent will affect Western Siberia. In the Omsk region, "only" up to −21°C.


The Living Force
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Snip: :whistle:
So why is this happening?
It is actually quite simple.

During a solar minimum, solar activity drops to very low levels, and that tends to mean lower temperatures on Earth.

Earlier this year, a panel of experts gathered to discuss the current solar minimum, and they came to the conclusion that it “could last for years”
If you like solar minimum, good news: It could last for years. That was one of the predictions issued last week by an international panel of experts who gathered at NOAA’s annual Space Weather Workshop to forecast the next solar cycle. If the panel is correct, already-low sunspot counts will reach a nadir sometime between July 2019 and Sept 2020, followed by a slow recovery toward a new Solar Maximum in 2023-2026.
“We expect Solar Cycle 25 will be very similar to Cycle 24: another fairly weak maximum, preceded by a long, deep minimum,” says panel co-chair Lisa Upton, a solar physicist with Space Systems Research Corp.
But that would actually be a best case scenario.

There are others that believe that we have now entered a “grand solar minimum” such as the one that our planet experienced several hundred years ago. That one was known as “the Maunder Minimum”, and it resulted in a “little ice age”
The extreme example happened between 1645 and 1715 when the normal 11-year sunspot cycle vanished. This period, called the Maunder Minimum, was accompanied by bitterly cold winters in the American colonies. Fishing settlements in Iceland and Greenland were abandoned. Icebergs were seen near the English channel. The canals of Venice froze. It was a time of great hardship.
Ultimately, the longer winters and shorter summers during the “Maunder Minimum” resulted in famine all over the globe, and multitudes ended up perishing
The Maunder Minimum is the most famous cold period of the Little Ice Age. Temperatures plummeted in Europe (Figs. 14.3–14.7), the growing season became shorter by more than a month, the number of snowy days increased from a few to 20–30, the ground froze to several feet, alpine glaciers advanced all over the world, glaciers in the Swiss Alps encroached on farms and buried villages, tree-lines in the Alps dropped, sea ports were blocked by sea ice that surrounded Iceland and Holland for about 20 miles, wine grape harvests diminished, and cereal grain harvests failed, leading to mass famines (Fagan, 2007). The Thames River and canals and rivers of the Netherlands froze over during the winter (Fig. 14.3). The population of Iceland decreased by about half. In parts of China, warm-weather crops that had been grown for centuries were abandoned. In North America, early European settlers experienced exceptionally severe winters.
So far in 2019, there have been more than 200 days without a single sunspot on the sun.



The Living Force
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Received our first accumulation of snow yesterday evening thru overnight, 3 inches in Columbus, OH and suburbs.
Today’s high may be the coldest ever for this date. The record is 30 set in 1920. The day time high, the one after daybreak, will only be in the mid-20s and that will come with a stiff wind that will make it feel like it is the teens all day.

Tonight’s low will be in the low to mid-teens as arctic high pressure builds into the region. The record is 14 set more than a century ago in 1911. A few lows north may drop into single digits.
I was watching the weather channel on Monday as they were going on and on about the arctic blast that was going to sweep across the US. Buuuut - just so no one would get the idea that global warming wasn't still a thing, they put up a world map showing in red/orange all the areas with above average temps - the vast majority of the map appeared that way. It was only blue across parts of the US/Canada. Whether that temp display was actuallly accurate or a tweaking of data, hard to say. That it was generally misleading - you bet!

The earliest snow I remember was during childhood in Charleston, WV. We had a heavy, wet snow on Oct. 25 (my brother's birthday) that damaged trees as they still had lots of leaves. I've been in Ohio since 1988 and winters have usually been on the mild side. Couple years ago, did not need to use the snowblower even once. Guess those days are behind us.

What to do when your solar panels are covered in snow:
3D-printed generator allows you to generate electricity from snowfall

(Natural News) People can now tap snowfall for electricity, thanks to triboelectric nanogenerators that collect electrical energy from innocuous activities like footsteps and raindrops. The new energy harvester, developed by the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), is not only inexpensive but light as well – matching the thinness and flexibility of a plastic sheet.

“The device can work in remote areas because it provides its own power and does not need batteries,” explained UCLA researcher Richard Kaner, the senior author of the study. “It’s a very clever device – a weather station that can tell you how much snow is falling, the direction the snow is falling, and the direction and speed of the wind.”

Like its conventional counterparts, the “snow-based triboelectric nanogenerator” draws electrical charge from static electricity. It takes advantage of the transfer of electrons to produce usable energy.

Kaner and his team released the details of their nanogenerator on the journal Nano Energy.

In a statement, Kaner explained how the interplay between materials that attract electrons and other substances that released the same particles produced static electricity. By separating these electric charges, a triboelectric generator produces electricity from scratch.

Snow naturally possesses a positive charge – as such, it gives up electrons. In the study, the UCLA researchers looked for a negatively charged material to take advantage of those properties. They settled upon silicone, a rubbery artificial compound made from silicon and oxygen atoms, as well as carbon and hydrogen.

When snow falls on the surface of silicone, the physical contact causes electrons to leave the former and flow to the latter. The resulting charge is captured by the snow-based triboelectric generator, which turns it into electricity.

UCLA researcher and co-author Maher El-Kady explained that snow possesses an electrical charge: If the substance comes into contact with another material with the opposite charge, it becomes possible to extract the energy and turn it into electricity.

“While snow likes to give up electrons, the performance of the device depends on the efficiency of the other material at extracting these electrons,” explained El-Kady. “After testing a large number of materials including aluminum foils and Teflon, we found that silicone produces more charge than any other material.”

Every year, snow blankets roughly 30 percent of the planet. This means that solar panels in regions that experience winter season operate at a much lower efficiency. When snow piles up on a photovoltaic array, it blocks off much of the sunlight. The obstructed solar cell produces less power, making it less effective at powering a home or building.

El-Kady suggested adding the snow-based triboelectric nanogenerator to the surface of a solar panel. The layer is thin enough to permit the passage of sunlight during sunny periods. More importantly, it makes it possible for the cell to continue generating electricity despite being covered in snow.

The nanogenerator may also keep track of a winter sports athlete, especially during jumps, runs, and walks. Unlike a smartwatch, it may recognize the primary patterns of movement during cross-country skiing.

The snow-powered triboelectric nanogenerator consisted of a silicone layer and an electrode that gathered the charge. The prototype was produced with a 3D printer.

The UCLA team said that they might manufacture the device with ease and at a low cost. Silicone is cheap, easy to obtain, and used in a variety of roles such as insulation for electrical wires, lubricating substances, and biomedical devices. It may now harness energy from the snow.

Sounds great! Those 3D printers are remarkable and really opening up so many possibilities!


The Living Force
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I do wonder how believers in man-made global warming/climate change/crisis/disaster will attempt to rationalize all this recent record cold away - that's even if they take any notice of it in the first place.

It was literally freezing in Florida and Alabama while parts of Maine, Michigan and New York were digging out from a foot of snow Wednesday as a historically early and deadly Arctic air mass gripped much of nation.

Records, some dating back more than 100 years, were toppled as the front continued its ferocious roll for a third day.

The entire state of Alabama was under a freeze warning as temperatures dipped into the 20s and below, breaking records at more than 100 locations. The National Weather Service in Mobile citing the "widespread, significant freeze" for Alabama and Florida's Panhandle, urged residents to protect exposed pipes, keep pets warm and check on neighbors.

In Florida, the average low temperature for November in Pensacola is 50 degrees. It was 20 degrees colder Wednesday morning.

"30 here near Pensacola Beach," tweeted resident Robert Pooley. "Hate it!"

Record lows were recorded Wednesday morning from Birmingham, Alabama, to Burlington, Vermont. Birmingham's low of 18 degrees bested by 4 degrees a record that stood since 1911.

New York City and Buffalo, New York, as well as parts of Ohio, have set records. In Kansas alone, at least six cities, including Wichita, set cold records for the date Tuesday.

In Missouri, St. Louis dropped to 11 degrees, breaking a record for the date that stood for more than 100 years.

It snowed in Texas just 60 miles from the Mexican border - and more intensely farther north. Parts of Michigan were digging out from up to 30 inches of snow. Buffalo set records with more than 11 inches. Parts of Maine and Vermont were hit with a foot of snow as the system roared into its third day.

"Visibility dropped as low as one-fourth of a mile at times ... as heavy lake-effect snow squalls continued moving through northeastern Ohio," AccuWeather Meteorologist Derek Witt said.

In Michigan, the Eaton County Sheriff's Office said two women, ages 81 and 64, and a 57-year-old man were killed Monday in a two-vehicle crash on snowy, icy roads. In Kansas, the Highway Patrol said an 8-year-old girl died in a three-vehicle wreck.

Authorities in Ohio were investigating two fatal wrecks on snowy roads, and a passenger bus toppled on its side in Syracuse, New York, although no serious injuries were reported.

Record-challenging low temperatures were everywhere. Single-digit temperatures descended on much of the Midwest, where Detroit sank to 7 degrees, breaking a record of 12 degrees for the day.

Cristen Hamilton, who lives in Chicago's northside neighborhood of Lakeview, had no problems with the early winter weather.

"I'm a transplant from Northern California, so I think it's fantastic," she said. "I'm very happy with Chicago at 20 degrees."

Drastically colder than normal temperatures stretched all the way to the Atlantic Coast. Temperatures dipped into the low 20s in Atlanta and in Jackson, Mississippi. Similar numbers swept across the East Coast - New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington, D.C.

Many of these cities often see temperatures that low, just not very often two weeks before Thanksgiving, said AccuWeather meteorologist Tyler Roys.

"We will be challenging records everywhere," he said.



Jedi Master
Little Ice Age lessons
The world’s last climate crisis demonstrates that surviving is possible if bold economic and social change is embraced . . .
The Little Ice Age is a history of resilience and surprises – Dagomar Degroot | Aeon Essays

an assortment of topics about humans adapting , especially in Europe . . . .
But that's the thing there won't be any bold economic and social change. Instead, we will have crisis after crisis until society reaches the tipping point and self-destroy (aided by natural disaster).


The Living Force
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Little Ice Age lessons
The world’s last climate crisis demonstrates that surviving is possible if bold economic and social change is embraced . . .
The Little Ice Age is a history of resilience and surprises – Dagomar Degroot | Aeon Essays

an assortment of topics about humans adapting , especially in Europe . . . .
Far less defensible assumptions that climate change has happened before and is therefore nothing to worry about – ahistorical nonsense often fronted by those who once denied the very existence of human-caused warming – pose even greater obstacles to urgent action. It is crucial that we expand the space between these harmful extremes. Writing more nuanced histories of past climate change is one way to do it.
Even though the historical Little Ice Age has never been attributed to "human-caused warming" , now the "climate change"/former "global warming" crowd is claiming they were aware of this Little Ice Age all along and take comfort in the stories of survival amongst the plagues and famines. Those who see the solar minimum approaching are just using "ahistorical nonsense" to distract from this "human-caused warming". It may be human caused in the reaction of the Cosmos to human orthogonal thinking but I don't think it is carbon emissions that are the problem in the larger scheme of things. They still think their "urgent action" to lower carbon emissions could do the trick.

At least they see the need for more nuanced histories of past-climate change to prepare for the next Ice Age.


The Living Force
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For those who might have missed it on Sott, astrophysicist Piers Corbyn (brother of Jeremy) lays it all out:



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Man dies and 300,000 in power cut after snow in France

Travel has been disrupted on roads, trains and in airports after heavy snow, with one man dead

A man has died, more than 300,000 homes are without electricity, and roads and train lines remain obstructed after heavy snowfall in southeast France.

Up to 20cm of snow fell across the Drôme, Ardèche and Isère yesterday (Thursday November 14), with up to 30cm recorded in places with an altitude of 300 metres or more.

A 63-year-old man died near Bourgoin-Jallieu, in Isère, as he was attempting to clear snow and a fallen tree from a blocked road, when another tree fell on him. Emergency services were called but were unable to revive him. Another man, aged 27, was also injured, and taken to hospital.

More than 300,000 homes remain without power after the snowfall caused trees to fall and bring down electricity lines in the area, electricity company Enedis said.

A major, 20,000 volt cable fell in Tournon-sur-Rhône (Ardèche); while another came down in the commune of Saint-Julien-en-Saint-Alban, over 25 houses; requiring the occupants to be evacuated by firefighters.

Enedis said: “Our teams have been deployed, but the situation is still developing.”

Train company SNCF has also confirmed that trains will be disrupted on several lines to and from Grenoble today, due to heavy snowfall, fallen trees, or trees that appear to be at risk of falling near or on to the tracks.

The lines Grenoble-Lyon, Grenoble-Valence and Grenoble-Veynes will be most affected. It will still be possible to travel from Grenoble to Lyon, but passengers will need to take “a detour” through Chambéry (Savoie) and Ambérieu (Ain) to do so, SNCF said.

Roads in the area also remain dangerous, with authorities in the Ardèche warning residents to avoid taking the roads completely. In a statement, the department said: “Driving conditions are very difficult. Many trees have fallen over on roads.”
Also in the area, heavy goods vehicles weighing more than 7.5 tonnes have been banned from major roads in the Auvergne Rhône-Alpes to avoid dangerous situations and to help “ease traffic”, confirmed motorway management company Vinci Autoroutes.

Airports in the area, including Lyon Saint-Exupéry, also experienced disruption including delays and cancellations.

Airport authority Aéroports de Lyon said it had delayed some flights due to the need to “de-snow” planes and runways, and that the snowfall had been “very heavy and sticky”, but said that the situation was becoming “resolved” by the evening. Passengers were advised to check their flights before travelling.

Orange weather warnings for more snow and ice had been in place the the area throughout the day yesterday, also including the Loire, Rhône, Saône-et-Loire - but all alerts across the country have now been lifted.


The Living Force
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For those who might have missed it on Sott, astrophysicist Piers Corbyn (brother of Jeremy) lays it all out:

I responded to the above post, but by the time I was done, it did not fit the topic as well, as I would have liked, so I put it under: The politics of climate change: Green New Deal and other madness
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