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[worldbridger]

What a terrible ordeal, Worldbridger! Don't forget that DMSO really helps with burns.

Hopefully not! If it hurts a lot, it is probably a first or second degree burn. In third degree burns, pain receptors are obliterated.

I think you can expose your hands for 15 minutes to the NIR light with some good results.

Thanks, will try DMSO and the NIR, just did a 15x3 min session on my lower back, hips and neck. Not the hands, wearing gloves at the moment with some coconut oil/aloe vera and will do DMSO before bedtime. I burned my hands on boiling water some 10 years ago, that was nothing compared to smoking hot lard...

You were right Gaby, wasn't 3rd degree thank god, but it looked and felt like it for 3 hours, ER center compelled me to go. I'll be fine.

 

[Pierre]

Pierre, thanks for sharing your experience. I will offer some thoughts

Thanks for sharing those interesting pieces of information. It helps connecting the dots. I definitely have to learn and experiment more about this topic. I will keep your post in mind, read the cancer as a metabolic disease book and keep on doing the NIR sessions. Then I might be able to bring some helpful contributions.

 

[Pierre]

I'm trying to figure out if I'm suppose to learn anything from this little drama.

Maybe it means that the STS overlords never have enough pain and suffering (the burn) but also that, sometimes, there are solutions to the problems inherent to our world (arrival of the DHL package with the NIR device).

Or maybe it means something totally different, or it means nothing. But I like the first explanation.

 

[lilies]

[..]
The main objective was to stop the headache I had for years. Those headaches are cyclical: 2-3 days of build-up (stiff neck), 2-3 days of headache (up to 7 or 8 on a 0 to 10 pain scale), then I was taking 1 to 3 Naproxen and I was pain free for a few days before the next build-up phase.[..]

Pierre, does your neck feel like its gradually stiffening up, then when the muscles get "cemented in" - so you can't move your head anymore - the pain starts increasing rapidly and reaches the top 7~10 mark in seconds or minutes, so strong, you have to scream, then it passes for a time, then the whole thing starts again from the beginning?
If yes, I was in that situation (somewhat deformed disks in the neck) and got a potassium shot from the doctor. Since then I take a pinch of tri-potassium citrate (tip of a teaspoon) or half a teaspoon potassium gluconate (depending on your genetics one type of this supplement will be best) and get my potassium levels adequate and am symptom free. As long as I don't forget to take potassium. More needed if exercising more, otherwise I can feel my neck stiffening up again.

 

[Renaissance]

Thanks, will try DMSO and the NIR, just did a 15x3 min session on my lower back, hips and neck. Not the hands, wearing gloves at the moment with some coconut oil/aloe vera and will do DMSO before bedtime. I burned my hands on boiling water some 10 years ago, that was nothing compared to smoking hot lard...

You were right Gaby, wasn't 3rd degree thank god, but it looked and felt like it for 3 hours, ER center compelled me to go. I'll be fine.

Reiki is amazing for burns. I've used it on myself after a stove accident that involved a melted plastic handle from a knife that burned my finger pretty badly. It took the away the pain completely. The skin still felt 'soggy' but the pain was gone. A few months ago a friend got a stream burn and it worked then too. Don't know how intense the pain is now, but if your hands are still throbbing then finding a good reiki practitioner could really help.

 

[Lilou]

Thanks, will try DMSO and the NIR, just did a 15x3 min session on my lower back, hips and neck. Not the hands, wearing gloves at the moment with some coconut oil/aloe vera and will do DMSO before bedtime. I burned my hands on boiling water some 10 years ago, that was nothing compared to smoking hot lard...

You were right Gaby, wasn't 3rd degree thank god, but it looked and felt like it for 3 hours, ER center compelled me to go. I'll be fine.

You may also want to use Solcoseryl Jelly for the burns. It is most excellent to stimulate new skin growth and it does a good job of relieving pain too! This ebay seller offers free shipping to many parts of Europe, if you are unable to find it locally. I'd order several tubes. It is great stuff!

 

[worldbridger]

Thanks for your input, I will look in to it. Will also do some NIR today on the hands. Wearing white cotton gloves I look like a butler walking around the house...

 

[worldbridger]

Thanks, will try DMSO and the NIR, just did a 15x3 min session on my lower back, hips and neck. Not the hands, wearing gloves at the moment with some coconut oil/aloe vera and will do DMSO before bedtime. I burned my hands on boiling water some 10 years ago, that was nothing compared to smoking hot lard...

You were right Gaby, wasn't 3rd degree thank god, but it looked and felt like it for 3 hours, ER center compelled me to go. I'll be fine.

You may also want to use Solcoseryl Jelly for the burns. It is most excellent to stimulate new skin growth and it does a good job of relieving pain too! This ebay seller offers free shipping to many parts of Europe, if you are unable to find it locally. I'd order several tubes. It is great stuff!

I had to check it out at once.

It contains calf blood, which is ok with me, but also parabens:

- 4.15mg protein-free haemodialysate of calves' blood, chemically and biologically standardized.

- 1.73 mg Methyl parahydroxybenzoate (E218).

- 0.27 mg Propyl parahydroxybenzoate (E216).

Hormon disruptors.

 

[Pierre]

[..]
The main objective was to stop the headache I had for years. Those headaches are cyclical: 2-3 days of build-up (stiff neck), 2-3 days of headache (up to 7 or 8 on a 0 to 10 pain scale), then I was taking 1 to 3 Naproxen and I was pain free for a few days before the next build-up phase.[..]

Pierre, does your neck feel like its gradually stiffening up, then when the muscles get "cemented in" - so you can't move your head anymore - the pain starts increasing rapidly and reaches the top 7~10 mark in seconds or minutes, so strong, you have to scream, then it passes for a time, then the whole thing starts again from the beginning?

It doesn't switch this fast. It's not a matter of seconds or minutes but more likely a matter of hours, and, in the end, the pain is not as strong as what you describe.

If yes, I was in that situation (somewhat deformed disks in the neck) and got a potassium shot from the doctor. Since then I take a pinch of tri-potassium citrate (tip of a teaspoon) or half a teaspoon potassium gluconate (depending on your genetics one type of this supplement will be best) and get my potassium levels adequate and am symptom free. As long as I don't forget to take potassium. More needed if exercising more, otherwise I can feel my neck stiffening up again.

I'm glad potassium works. I take potassium too, everyday before going to bed.

 

[Lilou]

You may also want to use Solcoseryl Jelly for the burns. It is most excellent to stimulate new skin growth and it does a good job of relieving pain too! This ebay seller offers free shipping to many parts of Europe, if you are unable to find it locally. I'd order several tubes. It is great stuff!

I had to check it out at once.

It contains calf blood, which is ok with me, but also parabens:

- 4.15mg protein-free haemodialysate of calves' blood, chemically and biologically standardized.

- 1.73 mg Methyl parahydroxybenzoate (E218).

- 0.27 mg Propyl parahydroxybenzoate (E216).

Hormon disruptors.
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Well it does have to contain some type of preservatives. I guess you would have to weigh the risk of short term use to the benefits of rapid dermal regeneration without scarring. I have used this personally with quick and excellent results, but perhaps you have greater sensitivities to these things.

Speedy recovery, Worldbridger!

 

[Konstantin]

Sorry to hear this.
I don't have anything else to add, just try the advices that you received and I wish you a speedy recovery, Worldbridger!

 

[worldbridger]

Lilou, yes I agree. If the other things doesn't work I might use that for a while.

Thanks, Konstantin.

 

[zak]

Keyhole:

The role of nitric oxide (NO) in migraine, tension-type headache and cluster headache.

Although the precise mechanisms underlying the pathophysiology of migraine are still elusive, the last decades have witnessed some progress (e.g. involvement of serotonin, calcitonin gene-related peptide, nitric oxide, etc). Nitric oxide (NO) is a very important molecule in the regulation of cerebral and extra cerebral cranial blood flow and arterial diameters. It is also involved in nociceptive processing. Glyceryl trinitrate (GTN), a pro-drug for NO, causes headache in normal volunteers and a so called delayed headache that fulfils criteria for migraine without aura in migraine sufferers. Blockade of nitric oxide synthases (NOS) by L-NMMA effectively treats attacks of migraine without aura. Similar results have been obtained for chronic tension-type headache and cluster headache. Inhibition of the breakdown of cGMP also provokes migraine in sufferers, indicating that cGMP is the effector of NO-induced migraine. Several relationships exist between NO, calcitonin gene-related peptide and other molecules important in migraine. Also ion channels, particularly the K(ATP) channels, are important for the action of NO. In conclusion, inhibition of NO production or blockade of steps in the NO-cGMP pathway or scavenging of NO may be targets for new drugs for treating migraine and other headaches. Indeed, selective n-NOS and i-NOS inhibitors are already in early clinical development.

Pierre:

I'm glad potassium works. I take potassium too, everyday before going to bed.

For an other thread i was on the ion channels stuff, and this passage can be useful to connect more dots.

Ion channels are pore-forming transmembrane proteins that allow the passage of ions into and out of a cell. They mediate cell excitability and are essential for proper signaling and cell function. Therefore, dysfunction or aberrant regulation of ion channels could result in disruption of excitation-inhibition balance, neuronal excitability and peripheral or central sensitization. In support of this view, several prophylactic drugs for migraine work (albeit non-selectively) by inhibiting the function of ion channels such as voltage-gated sodium channels or voltage-gated calcium channels.13 Although the site of action of these drugs is not clear, modulation of ion channels leading to amelioration of neuronal hyperexcitability nonetheless represents a currently utilized therapeutic approach and an attractive strategy for migraine prophylactic drug discovery. In the peripheral nervous system, considerable progress has been made in understanding the role of ion channels that may participate in the pathophysiology of migraine. Fluorescent retrograde labeling methods have allowed the study of the properties of primary afferent neurons innervating the dura (i.e. dural afferents), which are likely to be key players in transmitting peripheral input contributing to the pain of migraine. This review will focus on (1) ion channels expressed on dural afferents and (2) recent advances regarding activation and modulation of the ion channels on dural afferents. We have also included the TRESK potassium channel, which has recently been linked with inherited migraine. Although the site of action of TRESK channels in migraine pathophysiology is not clear, recent studies indicate that this channel might be important for regulating excitability of primary afferent neurons.

LINK

in concluding that ergotamine may be a good option for the treatment of migraine.

LINK

The mechanism of action of ergotamine is complex.[5] The molecule shares structural similarity with neurotransmitters such as serotonin, dopamine, and epinephrine and can thus bind to several receptors acting as an agonist. The anti-migraine effect is due to constriction of the intracranial extracerebral blood vessels through the 5-HT1B receptor, and by inhibiting trigeminal neurotransmission by 5-HT1D receptors. Ergotamine also has effects on the dopamine and norepinephrine receptors. Its side effects are due mainly to its action at the D2 dopamine and 5-HT1A receptors.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00438-017-1317-1

Great thread indeed !

 

[Keyhole]

Interesting, zak.

Neuronal excitability seems to be one of the primary issues with the migraines. In fact, over excitability is characteristic of most pathology.

On the topic of "ion channels", it depends how you view an ion channel's function. If you go with the mainstream view, then the opening of ion channels allows an outflux of potassium from the cell which is accompanied by calcium ion (etc) signalling inside the cell to trigger excitation. From what I understand, the idea is that by targeting these ion channels, you can help to regulate the excitation. So from this perspective, I can see why you have pointed to potassium supplementation.

However, the above only applies if we have faith in the mainstream model of "cell membranes" being impermeable to solutes, which forms the requirement for these ion channels to 'pump' ions across so as the allow them to enter or exit the cell

To turn the whole thing upside down, we can enter into Gilbert Ling's territory: the 'association-induction hypothesis' shows that "potassium ion channels" play a minor role in ion distribution and cell excitation (perhaps more of a supportive role in the process.

It shows that cells that are low in ATP extrude potassium ions naturally and facilitate the entry of calcium/sodium ions... and no pumps or ion channels are required for this. When potassium has left the cell, the cell is in an excited state. Normally when the cell activity has been accomplished (in this case neuronal transmission) and ATP has been replenished, the cell can return to its "rested" and non-excited state, whereby it allows potassium to enter once more.

However, in the case of ATP depletion and lack of ability to produce proper amounts of ATP, the cell remains in a permanently excited state. In the end, the permanent excitatory activity eventually leads to cell death.

So what I am trying to say is, the way you view migraines depends on the framework that you work from. The majority will work from the mainstream (and I believe disproven) framework focusing on ion channels and impermeable membranes. Whereas if we go from Ling's somewhat well established hypothesis (that makes a lot more sense!), it places more emphasis on the energetic status of the cell. In other words, it emphasises that adequate levels of ATP in the cell are required for it to be in a rested and healthy state.

 

[gdpetti]

Seems that if you're using a couple of those near IR spots, you might as well leave the glass plate on and just put it next to the skin, right? If I understand it, the nearer to the skin is best/most effective for penetration.
THis bed is for a full body treatment... not setting up any permanent system with a few spots would allow them to be moved around as desired/needed.
Whereas, if you set them up in a permanent array, but not close to the skin, say 8-10 inches away, the efficacy is much less, right?
I was about to setup a shelf for them, but as I review this data, the goal is to keep the light as close as possible, so the light rays penetrate better.
So, it seems that it would be better (and easier ;) ) to just setup them up on a flat board, perhaps screw them down as long as they still turn etc...

Right?