The Protocols of the Pathocrats

The Protocols of Zion

'By inculcating in all a sense of self importance we shall destroy among the goyim the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the possibility of individual minds'Protocol 10

I was just wondering how you perceive this particular protocol and far you think they have come in achieving their goals?
 
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Re: The Protocols of Zion

open said:
'By inculcating in all a sense of self importance we shall destroy among the goyim the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the possibility of individual minds'Protocol 10

I was just wondering how you perceive this particular protocol and far you think they have come in achieving their goals?

Hi open,

Maybe you could tell us firstly how you perceive it and if you think that they have achieved their goals ?
 
Re: The Protocols of Zion

Short answer is that you should read Kevin MacDonald's books. I think you'll find the answer well explicated there.

A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism As a Group Evolutionary Strategy, With Diaspora Peoples
Separation and Its Discontents Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism
The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements[3]
Understanding Jewish Influence: A Study in Ethnic Activism

From Wikipedia, a Zionist run disinfo site:

Kevin B. MacDonald, (born January 24, 1944) is a professor of psychology at California State University, Long Beach, best known for his use of evolutionary psychology to inform his study of Judaism as being a "group evolutionary strategy."

MacDonald's most controversial claim is that a suite of traits that he attributes to Jews, including higher-than-average verbal intelligence and ethnocentricism, have eugenically evolved to enhance the ability of Jews to conspire to out-compete non-Jews for resources while undermining the power and self-confidence of the white majorities in Europe and America whom he insists Jews seek to disposess.[1][2][3]

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MacDonald was born in Oshkosh, Wisconsin and raised in a traditional Roman Catholic family.[6] His father was a policeman and his mother was a secretary. He went to parochial schools and played basketball in high school. He entered the University of Wisconsin–Madison and became an activist in the anti-war movement from about 1965 to 1975.[6] During this period, he perceived the East Coast Jewish origins of the majority of the movement there (Culture of Critique, p. 104), which motivated his interest in Jewish intellectual movements.

MacDonald became a philosophy major and abandoned leftist radicalism.[6] He embarked on a career as a Jazz pianist, but by the late 1970s had abandoned it in favour of academia.[6] While in graduate school, he became attracted to E.O. Wilson's theory of sociobiology.[6]

MacDonald is the author of seven books on evolutionary psychology and child development and is the author or editor of over thirty academic articles in refereed journals. He received his B.A. from the University of Wisconsin–Madison in 1966, and M.S. in biology from the University of Connecticut in 1976. He earned a Ph.D. in 1981 (Biobehavioral Sciences) from the University of Connecticut where he studied under Professor Benson E. Ginsburg, one of the founders and leaders of modern behavior genetics, as his advisor. His thesis was on the behavioral development of wolves and resulted in two publications: MacDonald, K. B., and Ginsburg, B. E. (1981). "Induction of normal behavior in wolves with restricted rearing." Behavioral and Neural Biology, 33, 133-162; MacDonald, K. B. (1983). "Development and stability of personality characteristics in prepubertal wolves." Journal of Comparative Psychology, 97, 99-106, 1983.

He completed a post-doctoral fellowship with Ross Parke at the psychology department of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in 1983. His work there concerned rough and tumble play in children (he had two small boys at home at the time as well) and resulted in three publications:

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He served as Secretary-Archivist of the Human Behavior and Evolution Society and was elected as a member of the executive board from 1995 to 2001. He was an editor of Population and Environment and is an associate editor of the journal Sexuality & Culture. He serves on the Advisory Board of The Occidental Quarterly, a journal that has been described by Max Blumenthal on the website of liberal magazine The American Prospect as "the premier voice of the white-nationalist movement",[7] and makes occasional contributions to VDARE.com, an immigration reductionist webzine. Peter Brimelow of VDARE denies it being a white nationalist webzine, but acknowledges having white nationalist writers amongst its contributors.[8] Bimelow does not list MacDonald as one of these.[8]

He has been with the Department of Psychology at California State University-Long Beach since 1985 and as a full professor since 1995.

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MacDonald is best known for his trilogy that analyzes Judaism and Jewish culture from the perspective of evolutionary psychology, comprising A People That Shall Dwell Alone (1994), Separation and Its Discontents (1998), and The Culture of Critique (1998). He proposes that Judaism is a group evolutionary strategy to enhance the ability of Jews to out-compete non-Jews for resources. Using the term Jewish ethnocentrism, he argues that Judaism fosters in Jews a series of marked genetic traits, including above-average verbal intelligence and a strong tendency toward collectivist behavior.
[edit] Scholarship

MacDonald bases a good amount of his scholarship on well-known Jewish historians such as Jacob Katz, Albert Lindemann and Peter Novick.[citation needed]
[edit] On Jews and immigration policies

MacDonald says that "the organized Jewish community" has been the single most important and powerful group in favor of unrestricted immigration to the United States, and that the community has been acting in its "own perceived collective interests," regardless of whether these are in conflict with the interests of other Americans.[9]

MacDonald's main thesis centers on the period preceding the 1965 Immigration Act when strict, country-of-origin based quotas existed, mostly favoring immigration from Europe. According to MacDonald, while most of the ethnic communities in that period were somewhat active in trying to affect the increase of immigration quotas from their own countries of origin (i.e., the Irish for immigration from Ireland, Greeks for immigration from Greece, etc.), only the Jewish community activists were requesting (and ultimately obtained in 1965) the dismantling of country-of-origin quotas and an increase in immigration across the board.[citation needed] This policy shift benefited primarily non-European immigration and had a profound impact on the U.S. demographics in the following decades.[citation needed] MacDonald says that Jews opposed immigration quotas because a diverse America was safer for Jews.[9]
[edit] Race, culture, and intelligence

See also Race and intelligence.

Like some of his fellow contributors to VDARE, MacDonald questions claims that racial differences are unimportant or illusory and that racial and cultural assimilation will be an easy process.[citation needed] He believes that blacks and Latinos are by and large genetically intellectually inferior to whites and Asians and disagrees with the contentions of popular scientists such as Stephen Jay Gould, Richard Lewontin, Leon Kamin, Steven Rose, and Jared Diamond.
[edit] Neoconservatism

MacDonald published a series of three articles in The Occidental Quarterly on the alleged similarities between neoconservatism and several other influential intellectual and political movements that he claims are Jewish-dominated. He argues that "Taken as a whole, neoconservatism is an excellent illustration of the key traits behind the success of Jewish activism: ethnocentrism, intelligence and wealth, psychological intensity, and aggressiveness."[3] His general conclusions are that neoconservatism fits into a general pattern of twentieth-century Jewish intellectual and political activism. Since Leo Strauss, a philosophy professor, taught several of the putative founders of the neoconservatism movement, MacDonald concludes he is a central figure in the neoconservative movement and sees him as "the quintessential rabbinical guru with devoted disciples".[10]

MacDonald contends that, like Freudian psychoanalysis and Marxism, neoconservatism uses arguments that appeal to non-Jews, rather than appealing explicitly to Jewish interests. MacDonald argues that non-Jewish neoconservatives like Jeane Kirkpatrick and Donald Rumsfeld are examples of an ability to recruit prominent non-Jews while nevertheless preserving a Jewish core and an intense commitment to Jewish interests: "it makes excellent psychological sense to have the spokespeople for any movement resemble the people they are trying to convince."[10] He considers it significant that neoconservatism's supposed commitment to mass immigration is uncharacteristic of past conservative thought and is identical to liberal Jewish opinion.
 
Regarding whether Theodor Hertzl was the author of the Protocols, there is some information on the early 20th century publication history of the Protocols in the book The Truth About the Slump by A. N. Field (Arthur Nelson Field, 1882-1963). Nelson (New Zealand): published by the author, 1931.

Theodor Hertzl was alleged to be the author in Professor Sergius Nilus' second Russian edition of the Protocols, published in 1917 - "In this edition it was also alleged that the Protocols were notes of a plan submitted by Theodor Hertzl to the first Zionist Congress Council of Elders held at Basle, in Switzerland, in 1897."

Here are some more quotes from A. N. Field's 1931 book, in which he goes into the 20th century publication history, and possible sources for the Protocols.:

Ten years ago much interest was excited by the publication in London of documents purporting to show that a secret organization of Jewish character had existed for a long period on the Continent of Europe, and that its object unceasingly pursued from generation to generation was by degrees to enslave and dominate the non-Jewish peoples of the world. According to the documents published the engineers of the movement were wholly indifferent as to the moral character of the means adopted to attain the end.

The publication of this matter led to expressions of strong indignation by leading Jews that reputable journals should print such allegations. The documents were declared to be gross forgeries, long known and exploded on the Continent of Europe and various sources were given as their origin.

The extraordinary thing about these "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion," as they are called, is the accuracy with which they are being fulfilled. Their origin may be wrapped in mystery, but of the fulfilment of the programme set out in them there can be no question.

The "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" were published by Messrs. Eyre and Spottiswoode, London, in 1920, and were reviewed at length in the London "Times" of May 8, and the London "Spectator" of May 15.

In its notice of the pamphlet the "Times explained that it was a reprint of matter published in Russia in 1905 by Professor Sergius Nilus, a minor official in the Russian Foreign Office. In view of the course of world events between 1905 and 1920, the "Times" thought it important to explain that there could be no question of the issue in 1905, as the British Museum Library held a copy of the original Russian pamphlet with the Museum date stamp of August 10, 1906, on it, showing its date of receipt.

According to the explanation given by Professor Nilus in his preface, the matter he published came into his hands in the following manner:

"A manuscript has been handed to me by a personal friend now deceased . . . with the positive assurance that it was a true copy in translation of original documents stolen by a woman from one of the most influential and highly initiated leaders of freemasonry. The theft was accomplished at the close of a secret meeting of the initiated in France, that nest of Jewish Masonic conspiracy."

[. . .]

A correspondent writing to the "Times" on May 11, 1920, pointed out that in the original Russian pamphlet there appeared in the preface the following statement by the author, which had been omitted from the English edition.

"It will satisfy our feeling of responsibility if only by the grace of God we have achieved the, to us, so important aim - to forewarn, and yet did not arouse in the heart of any one person a feeling of animosity towards the until now blind Jewish people, the masses of whom, keenly believing though in a lie, are not guilty of the satanic sin of their leaders - the scribes and Pharisees, who have once already ruined Israel."

In 1917 Professor Nilus, at the time of the Bolshevik descent on Russia, produced a second edition of his pamphlet bearing the title "It is Here at Our Doors!"

[. . .]

We have next to recognize that the origin of the Protocols is shrouded in mystery. The statement of Professor Nilus as to how the document came into his possession has been given above. In the second edition of his pamphlet he gave a slightly different explanation. In the first statement the matter was stolen by a woman from an influential Jewish Freemason. In the second statement it appeared the matter was abstracted from a safe. Both statements would be substantially accurate if a woman had taken from a safe a document belonging to an influential Jewish Freemason.

The British Jews' Association thought the publication of sufficient importance to warrant notice by them. In its issue of June 2, 1920, the London "Times" published the text of a lengthy resolution by this association. After pointing our that the author of the pamphlet had received it "through a friend now deceased," and of the variations in his accounts of its original acquisition, it was stated:

"In view of the suspicious character of the statement, and of the further avowal of the author that he is unable to produce evidence of the genuineness of his documents, the committee resolved that it is unnecessary for the Jewish community to take any action.

On June 12, 1920, Mr. Lucien Wolf, the well-known Jewish journalist, and the author of the article on "Anti-Semitism" in the new edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica, contributed a lengthy letter to the "Spectator" pointing out that the bogy of a Jewish secret society was at least three centuries old.

Mr. Wolf declared that after the existence of the Illuminati, a Bavarian Masonic organization with a revolutionary plan, had become known at the end of the eighteenth century it was promptly annexed by a succession of scare-moners and writers of sensational books. After giving a list of these writers, Mr. Wolf declared that the Protocols from an examination of their text were pretty obviously a plagiarism from a novel "Gaeta Duppel Warsaw," published by Hermann Goedsche in 1868, Goedsche being, Mr. Wolf stated, an ex-official of the Prussian postal service dismissed for forgery.

In his novel Goedsche describes, we are told, an assembly of the Elect of Israel held once in every century at which is expounded the plan of Simeon, handed down from generation to generation, by which the Jews may secure their domination over all the nations of the earth. The Jews are to work with gold and the Press for the subversion of Monarchy and Christianity. They are to act as a universal disturbing and demoralizing instrument, and in particular they are to seduce and stir up the proletariat to political revolution, so that eventually they may establish a universal Jewish Monarchy on the ruins of Christian society.

As noted in the chapter on Russia, Mr. Wolf in his letter asserted that the Nilus pamphlet was produced in Russia in 1905 as part of the propaganda against the Jews, who were blamed for the revolution of that year, and was in particular used by the Russian Foreign Minister, Count Lamsdorff, in connection with a secret memorandum which the Tsar submitted to the Kaiser urging joint action by Russia and Germany against Jewish and Masonic peril. Such peril we are assured by Mr. Wolf is a pure myth. Nevertheless we shall look in vain to find on the thrones of Russia and Germany the two illustrious personages who in 1905 put their heads together to combat a supposed Jewish peril.

So far Mr. Wolf. On August 16, 1920, the London "Times" published in a most prominent position, in the outside column of its leader page, a long message from its Constantinople correspondent headed "Jewish World Plot: An Exposure." In this was set out how a mysterious Mr. X had bought a second-hand book, "Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu," written by M. Maurice Joly and published in Brussels in 1865. It was a political squib directed against the Emperor Napoleon III. Parallel column extracts showed many passages almost identical with the Protocols. There was some evidence that this particular copy of the book had been in the possession of the Russian secret police.

The "Times Correspondent incidentally mentioned that Professor Nilus in his second edition of 1917 had stated that he had received the Protocols from Alexis Nicolaevich Sukholin, a noble afterwards Governor of Stavropol. In this edition it was also alleged that the Protocols were notes of a plan submitted by Theodor Hertzl to the first Zionist Congress Council of Elders held at Basle, in Switzerland, in 1897.

It will thus be seen that two totally different sources were supplied with equal satisfaction as being the origin of the Protocols.

An equally feasible explanation would be that the matter in the Protocols and in the two books, the Goedsche novel and the "Dialogues in Hell," had been derived from some common source.

[. . .]

This explanation fits the facts just as well as an explanation that the Protocols began merely as a fanciful invention in a novel, and were stolen and dressed up in Russia to injure the Jews. The deadly accuracy of the Protocols puts the fiction-plagiarism theory at a heavy discount.

[. . .]

Any book on philosophy will tell us that absolute truth is unknowable by human beings. Truth, for us, is merely the explanation that most completely fits the known facts. If the Protocols supply an explanation which fits the facts, is it not sheer folly to dismiss them as insignificant? Would not the writer in putting together this book to make his fellow-countrymen aware of the nature of the influences by which they are surrounded - would not he have failed in his full duty if knowing of the Protocols he had suppressed mention of them?

Such a conspiracy, if it exists, would appear to have its origin in Germany, and it would not seem that even there any more than a small section of the Jews need by parties to it.

Our concern is not with Jews as Jews, but with conspirators as conspirators, whether they be Jews, Christians, Mahomedans, or anything else. Our business is to discover the facts and to put ourselves in a position of security. If hatred has sprung from hatred, matters will not be mended by sowing further hatred. Nor will they be mended by closing our eyes and leaving policies conceived in hatred to run to some tremendous cataclysm. Furthermore, we must not forget that prominent in exposing and resisting the monopolistic and dangerous activities to which attention has been directed in these pages have been many public-spirited Jews themselves. If there is conspiracy, the conspirators are as regardless of Jew as of Christian, for in order to gratify their ambition they imperil their race. The frustration of any such design of world enslavement is thus the common interest of Jew and Christian alike.
- A. N. Field, The Truth About the Slump, pages 139-153.
 

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