The Situation In Germany

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‘Reich’ coup foiled in Germany – security services​

Authorities have detained 25 people, including ex-police and military personnel, who allegedly wanted to reinstate a monarchy

‘Reich’ coup foiled in Germany – security services

Masked police officers lead Prince Reuss (back, center) to a police vehicle after searching a house in Hessen, Frankfurt/Main during a raid against so-called "Reich citizens", © Global Look Press / Boris Roessler

SWAT deployments, more than 130 searches and a total of 25 arrests have been carried out in Germany and several neighboring countries in one of the largest counter-terrorist operations in the nation’s history, according to German media.

Those arrested include former members of the military and police force, as well as a Russian national. They are suspected of conspiring to depose the current government in Berlin by force, and reinstate a regime modeled on the German Reich of 1871.
Multiple raids in the early hours of Wednesday involved some 3,000 German police officers storming apartments in 11 of the country’s regions, authorities revealed.

The group members are said to be adherents of the QAnon ideology, who believe Germany is currently being controlled by the ‘deep state’.

Having started their preparations for a coup back in November 2021, the suspects formed a ‘military wing,’ and were actively attempting to recruit military personnel currently serving in the Bundeswehr.

Apart from storming the country’s parliament, the Bundestag, and taking lawmakers hostage, the suspects also allegedly intended to target Germany’s energy infrastructure in the hope of triggering civil-war-like clashes.

The conspirators also reportedly formed a shadow cabinet, planning to put a nobleman from Frankfurt, Prinz Heinrich XIII, at the helm for an interim period following the coup.

Birgit Malsack-Winkemann, a former MP for the right-wing Alternative for Germany party, was among those arrested and also had her property searched, ZDF media outlet reported.

Among the suspects is a Russian national identified as Vitalia B. She allegedly helped the would-be ruler to establish contacts with Russia, though apparently to little avail. As Germany’s federal prosecutor’s office noted, “According to the investigations [conducted] so far, there are no clues [suggesting] that their contact partner reacted positively to their request.”

Meanwhile, Russia’s embassy in Berlin told the media that it had not been notified by German authorities that a Russian national had been detained. The diplomats added that they would send an inquiry to the German prosecutor’s office, saying they are ready to provide all necessary assistance to the woman.

Commenting on the raids, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday that officials in Moscow had learned about the situation from the media, describing it as Germany’s “internal problem.”

RT Balkan reports:

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Twenty-five suspected members and supporters of the extreme right-wing organization "Citizens of the Reich" were detained early this morning during raids across Germany, the German federal prosecutor's office announced, adding that the raids were conducted in 11 German states.

The arrestees were suspected of being part of a terrorist group whose goal was the overthrow of the existing state order in Germany, which did not exclude violence as a means to achieve the goal, it was stated in the announcement.

The newspaper "Bild" writes that Prince Heinrich XIII Rojs and Judge Birgit M.V. suspected of forming a terrorist network. Some former AfD councilors are among the suspects.
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So we have a prince and a judge who are "suspected of forming a terrorist network".

What´s going on here?
 
So we have a prince and a judge who are "suspected of forming a terrorist network".

What´s going on here?
Yes, VERY interesting. Here's some information from Rybar, translation courtesy of Donbass Devushka:

Rybar said:
🇩🇪 About German extremists who were preparing to storm the Bundestag

On the night of December 7, German police special forces carried out an operation in 11 federal states to arrest 25 people who belong to a right-wing radical organization.

About 3,000 law enforcement officers searched 130 objects at the same time, 50 people are under investigation.

🔻What is known about the arrested?

▪️According to German media, the following were detained: a former member of parliament from the Alternative for Germany party, 58-year-old Birgit Malsack-Winkemann, and a judge from Berlin, as well as several former members of the Special Forces Command (KSK) and Bundeswehr paratroopers.

▪️The 71-year-old businessman from Frankfurt am Main, Henry XIII, Prince Reuss is considered the main organizer of the "mutiny".

▪️Also among the detainees there is a Russian citizen named Vitalia B.

▪️All of them belong to the right-wing radical group called "Reichsburger" (Reichsbürger / "Citizens of the Reich").

▪️The organization has allegedly been planning a violent overthrow of power in Germany since November 2021, and weapons were found during searches of members of the movement.

🔻What does this mean for German politics?

▪️The largest anti-terrorist operation of the special services in the history of the country, as well as active media coverage and mountains of prepared information, do not leave space for a discussion about the guilt of the suspects.

▪️ The German media have already explained that 58-year-old Birgit Malsack-Winkemann, being a member of the Bundestag, knows how to navigate the Reichstag building and is good at shooting (apparently, in order to personally storm the government with an army of militias).

▪️Given the small number of detainees and the dubious reputation of the suspects, whose organization is often compared to the American QAnon, the conclusion suggests itself that the Scholz government, under this pretext, decided to crack down on the right-wing opposition with one blow.

▪️There have already been statements by the German prosecutor's office that those suspected of preparing a coup d'état allegedly contacted representatives of the Russian Federation, but did not receive support.

Apparently, the upcoming criminal case on terrorism will silence the AfD deputies for a long time, who often allowed themselves to criticize the sanctions against Russia and, in general, disagree with the pro-American course of the current government.
#Germany #terrorism
@rybar with @Ubersicht_Ukraine_Kanal
 
I only read the title:

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It says 25 arrests in german Reichsbürgerszene - in austria too.

Edit:

The German Federal Prosecutor's Office had 25 people from the so-called Reich citizens' scene arrested in the course of a raid on Wednesday morning. Eight of the suspects are now in pre-trial detention, said Attorney General Peter Frank in Karlsruhe on Wednesday afternoon. Searches were also carried out in Austria and Italy. With the exception of one Russian woman, all those arrested were German citizens, according to the Federal Prosecutor's Office.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
 

Former Bundestag MP among ‘Reich’ coup planners – media

"German law enforcement has cracked down on an armed group that was allegedly plotting to seize power"

"The group was described as part of the “Reich Citizens” movement, which rejects the legitimacy of the modern German state in favor of the government that existed between 1871 to 1918."

 
Dmitry Medvedev on the situation in Germany, translation via Yandex, emphasis mine:

Medvedev said:
Have you heard?

In Germany, the right-wing conspirators decided to make a coup. What can I say?

1. The Germans clearly have a shortage of black pudding. Everywhere only liver. And this is a good reason to add live blood to the liver sausage of the current chancellor. Scholz clearly benefits from such a reversal. He is both a cook and a participant in the meal.

2. Naturally, they hint at a connection with the Russians.
And how else? All the malicious conspiracies, world wars, devastating earthquakes and deadly epidemics are from us. We are proud, although we have not succeeded yet. We will continue to test the strength of the Nemetchina [Russian pejorative term for Germany, based on a similar Polish word meaning 'dumb, unable to speak']. Suddenly it will become a monarchy again?

3. But seriously, this is a clear sign of a hereditary disease of the entire management model in Germany. After all, these half-finished conspirators are right: Germany does not have full sovereignty on its land. Decisions on issues of German energy, industry and defense are made by the "deep American state", and by no means liver sausage or even Washington elders who are in fragmentary dementia.

Although this is pure provocation and conspiracy. So stock up on popcorn, the thriller will be more interesting than the notorious German TV series "Dark".
 

A lawmaker from the right-wing Alternative for Germany party, Eugen Schmidt, has called into question the authorities’ claims that a group of QAnon followers had been plotting a coup to overthrow the German government. The MP alleged that the powers-that-be in Berlin arranged the arrest of dozens of people on Wednesday merely to divert Germans’ attention from an increasingly acute energy crisis.
Etc…

Well, to divert general public from acute crisis - they have Qatar 2023 now, don’t they, and later would be whatever,….

So far, it looks like (to me) that the reason for this was what Ryan quoted:

Given the small number of detainees and the dubious reputation of the suspects, whose organization is often compared to the American QAnon, the conclusion suggests itself that the Scholz government, under this pretext, decided to crack down on the right-wing opposition with one blow.



Apparently, the upcoming criminal case on terrorism will silence the AfD deputies for a long time, who often allowed themselves to criticize the sanctions against Russia and, in general, disagree with the pro-American course of the current government.

We’ll see how this unfolds…
 
'Reichsburger' and 'QAnon' are the terms being used by the German media to label this group, but they also say that it was only formed in late 2021, by which time Reichsburger in Germany and QAnon internationally had long since become 'a thing', so whatever's really going on here is probably being grossly mischaracterized.

3,000 police officers to arrest 25 people?! Whatever is afoot, the ruling authorities are very scared of it!

Here's a DW report on it:

The search operation is reported to have covered 130 properties belonging to 52 suspects in 11 German states.

According to prosecution officials, the arrested suspects "belong to a terrorist organization founded by the end of November 2021 at the latest, which has set itself the goal of overcoming the existing state order in Germany and replacing it with its own form of state, which has already been worked out in outline."

Of the 25 men and women arrested, 24 were from Germany and one suspected supporter is from Russia. One arrest took place in Austria and one in Italy. There are 27 other suspects, the federal prosecutor's office said. [...]

German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said the case revealed the threat posed by the Reichsbürger movement.

"The investigations provide a glimpse into the abyss of a terrorist threat from the Reichsbürger scene," Faeser said in a statement. "We know how to defend ourselves with all our might against the enemies of democracy," she added.
Yes, we can see that that's the case!

DW again:

The prosecutors added that the group's adherents believe Germany is ruled by a so-called "deep state," similar to baseless claims about the United States that were made by former President Donald Trump.

A photo DW included in its report. It's from one of the major anti-lockdown marches in Berlin in 2020:

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A report from The Guardian quoting a few officials provided some rather contradictory and therefore revealing statements; we read that they were both a motley crew that don't appear to have been anywhere near capable of carrying out their rather fanciful plans, and yet they were also terrorists and enemies of democracy who would face the full force of the law'.


Nancy Faeser, Germany's interior minister, called the group the "enemies of democracy", saying it was as yet unclear as to how advanced its plans had been, or how likely it was to have succeeded.

She said the government would respond against such plots with the "full force of the law", adding: "The investigations provide a glimpse into the abyss of a terrorist threat from the Reichsbürger milieu."

..a "motley crew" - from a coronavirus-denying roofer to a gourmet cook, whose son-in-law is a professional footballer, a pilot with a German airline and a tenor who was due to be installed as culture minister ..

.... initial indications were that the group might have lacked the means or wherewithal to carry out their plan. Federal prosecutors said 3,000 officers had conducted searches at 137 sites in 11 of Germany's 16 states, including a palace in the state of Thuringia, and that 22 German citizens had been detained on suspicion of "membership in a terrorist organisation".

While the suspects believed their aims could be achieved only by military means and with force, prosecutors said, it was unclear whether the group had managed to amass any serious kind of arsenal.

It alleges they were also adherents of conspiracy theories and yet also bought the mainstream narrative on other issues.
 
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