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[Finduilas495]

I have a concern that has bothered me to no end. I have not read, or comprehended where my concern can be addressed. So I will begin to ask:

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My recollection is that the C's said that the fight at 6th density is taking place right now, in the sky, with the weather situation
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If STO does not disrupt free will, why all the references of fighting and war such as above?

There is an exchange in the Ra material that is relevant to your question I think:

Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you mean by the “failure to accept that which is given?”

Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded, engulfed, and transformed by positive energies.

This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.

It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.

It has not been fruitful for either side. The only consequence which has been helpful is a balancing of the energies available to this planet so that these energies have less necessity to be balanced in this space/time, thus lessening the chances of planetary annihilation.

 

[Deleted member 8431]

My recollection is that the C's said that the fight at 6th density is taking place right now, in the sky, with the weather situation - that is how we are aware of it.

Are you sure that it is 6D and not 4D that the C's were talking about? From what I understand so far, this is where the conflicts are really going on strong and disguised as weather here in 3D.

It's just that, as far as I know, if STS beings can only manifest up to 4D, I can't see how such a conflict could happen in 6D, where from my understanding, STS beings do not exist (STS there is merely a reflection of the STO principle for the sake of balance).

I don't know. I could be wrong.

Peace.

 

[Don Genaro]

I have a concern that has bothered me to no end. I have not read, or comprehended where my concern can be addressed. So I will begin to ask:

[...]
My recollection is that the C's said that the fight at 6th density is taking place right now, in the sky, with the weather situation
[...]

If STO does not disrupt free will, why all the references of fighting and war such as above?

There is an exchange in the Ra material that is relevant to your question I think:

Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you mean by the “failure to accept that which is given?”

Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded, engulfed, and transformed by positive energies.

This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.

It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.

It has not been fruitful for either side. The only consequence which has been helpful is a balancing of the energies available to this planet so that these energies have less necessity to be balanced in this space/time, thus lessening the chances of planetary annihilation.

I was looking for that quote too :) There's a bit more on it here. Also, if I remember correctly, the "physical" battle (as in weather) is occurring at 4th density and at 6th density you have the thought-forms of STS/STO (not the actual battle which manifests at 4th density and downwards)

Are you sure that it is 6D and not 4D that the C's were talking about? From what I understand so far, this is where the conflicts are really going on strong and disguised as weather here in 3D.

It's just that, as far as I know, if STS beings can only manifest up to 4D, I can't see how such a conflict could happen in 6D, where from my understanding, STS beings do not exist (STS there is merely a reflection of the STO principle for the sake of balance).

I don't know. I could be wrong.

Peace.

I just saw your response JayMark before posting and yes, I think the reference was to 4D.

 

[Ollie]

Thanks to all of you, Al Today, Finduilas495, JayMark and Don Genaro, for pointing out my error, and clarifying what was happening at both 4th and 6th density.

 

[Finduilas495]

Found some more information in the Ra material about the thought-battle:

Questioner: Does a portion of the Confederation then engage in this thought-battle? What percent engages?

Ra: I am Ra. This is the most difficult work of the Confederation. Only four planetary entities at any one time are asked to partake in this conflict.

Questioner: What density are these four planetary entities?

Ra: I am Ra. These entities are of the density of love, numbering four.

Questioner: Would an entity of this density be more effective for this work than an entity of density five or six?

Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is the only density besides your own which, lacking the wisdom to refrain from battle, sees the necessity of the battle. Thus it is necessary that fourth-density social memory complexes be used.

Questioner: Am I correct in assuming that both the Confederation and the Orion group utilize only their fourth densities in this battle, and that the fifth and sixth densities of the Orion group do not engage in this?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question as this entity’s energies are low.

It is partially correct. Fifth- and sixth-density entities positive would not take part in this battle. Fifth-density negative would not take part in this battle. Thus, the fourth density of both orientations join in this conflict.

 

[Ekios]

Since it is now Sept 20th and, according to the New Age crowd, the world is going to end, ascend, transform, whatever, on Dec 21 - more or less - which is almost exactly three months from now, I'm interested in what forum members think may actually happen IF anything at all.

Since April of this year, I have this tremendous stomach ball, a "warning call" as I named it. It is not exactly a "fear" but more a form of a huge, huge, huge internal apprehension for something coming, something strong, something important.

At the beginning it almost turned me crazy, literally. I had some strong reaction while looking for answers, and seriously it turned me nuts. I was lucky to find out about that forum, and Anart, by just some remarks had a way to calm me down as I needed. ( Thank you, Anart :) )

Thing is, I still have this "thing" rolling in my stomach and in my brain, that warning that something is coming. Now the "21 December thing" doesn't ring any kind of bell for me, it is just a date, a Friday, the one just before Christmas so the only way that it could become the end of the world for me is if I didn't finished to get all my gifts and I have to get out on that date ... ;)

Are you worried? Getting nervous?

I have to admit, yes terribly, because I am not yet able to understand what I feel. It is strong, big, important, and again, I have no idea about what it is.

What is occupying your thoughts most of the time?

Earthquakes, floods, meteorites showers etc ... natural catastrophes ... and how to make a living in the middle of this.

PS : while reading the answers here, I saw that part of material coming up again, the one about the 36M of Nephi. coming here and all. Once on that forum someone (maybe JayMark) told me something I founded very smart on that matter "even if those dudes are coming, they could be already here right now, we cannot know since they are 3D beings evolving in a 4D environment".

(FWIW, this is not the exact sentence, but its meaning is in)

 

[Al Today]

Finduilas495, thank you for the RA excerpt.

 

[aaronfransen]

December 21st? Nada. Nothing. More continual Earth changes? Very likely. It already seems like the proverbial flood of meteor reports is ever increasing, so that's interesting.

Certainly my personal level of anxiety has been increasing, but God knows how many different things could be causing that.

My prediction? On December 22nd we are all going to have a good laugh, until we hear on the news later that day about a meteor impact that caused some serious damage.

My two bits, as it were.

 

[RGG]

Great thread!

First my disclaimer: Every prediction that I have ever made silently to myself, that I was SURE would happen because i had a 6th sense feeling about has NOT happened. Actually it seems, the complete opposite is more likely to occur though I can't even claim that is consistent. But..... since you asked and since I've always wished that I had even the smallest amount of some kind of psychic ability I'll give it a go even though I have to use logic:

Unlike many other forum members, I think something will happen on Dec 21. The numbers (specifically the date 21/12/2012) are just too perfect and it seems the Dark T-shirts running this show on the planet love to make sure their dates are meaningful when they plan mass sacrifices -911 is a good example. the numbers can be added different ways to get 333 or 353 or other combinations too depending on how you write the date and even if I'm ignorant of the symbolism and power these numbers have, it seems the dark T-shirts put quite a bit of value in them. So here it is: some kind of event, resulting in the death of quite a few people that may look accidental but was actually planned to be a mass sacrifice by the Dark T-shirts on that date for ritualistic reasons. There has been such a big Dec 21-end-of-the-world public awareness campaign that there must be some reason for it and it would be such a waste to hype the world up on this date and have nothing actually happen. Most likely the powers that be will somehow use it to enslave us further since that's all they really do. That quote by the C's mentioning preprogramed individuals all going off at once is also a possibility on this date and would give more good excuses to enslave us-for our own safety of course!-though i'm thinking this is not as likely.

There it is!

PS

Here is a wish I would like to add after reading through this thread: Is it possible to have the following quote from Laura on the Cassiopaea header?:

" It's not perfection that is important, it is the STRIVING, the continued movement, the refusal to stagnate, the constant efforts to give and help in whatever way is available to you that counts"

I love it and agree with Anart that it really important and I could use to see that reminder every time I log in. I think it would benefit others as well- I'm thinking of new members who are arriving to the forum "late in the game" so to speak and might find all of the info, life-style changes especially daunting.


Renee

 

[Goemon_]

As I am a small sole trader, my concern is about to whether or not do I keep my stock at the same level or do I just sale and don't buy anymore.

And also I don't want to keep money as I think it will loose it value at an undeterminated time in the near future.

For the moment the problem is solve as I haven't much money left.

That could change as we get closer to the end of the year, I would then probably buy more books and more food for stock.

 

[artofdream]

Since it is now Sept 20th and, according to the New Age crowd, the world is going to end, ascend, transform, whatever, on Dec 21 - more or less - which is almost exactly three months from now, I'm interested in what forum members think may actually happen IF anything at all.

Some time since Sept 20th, thus getting closer.

Are you worried?

No, those last months have been (more and more) interesting, in:

• geo-politics
• earth changes
• celestial events (meteors, comets)

Getting nervous?

No, learning is fun, and the last months have been providing lots of "search material" to process.
The more knowledge we grasp the better preparedness becomes.
Thus, at the moment: learn, wait and see.

What is occupying your thoughts most of the time?

Even though I am working alot lately, my main thoughts are related to:

• Reality, what is happening, and then try to connect the dots.
• the Work
• ponerology,psychopathy
• history & geopolitics
• science & discoveries
• Horn of Moses, when will it be released?

//Claude.

 

[DreamGod]

Since it is now Sept 20th and, according to the New Age crowd, the world is going to end, ascend, transform, whatever, on Dec 21 - more or less - which is almost exactly three months from now, I'm interested in what forum members think may actually happen IF anything at all.

Are you worried? Getting nervous? What is occupying your thoughts most of the time?

There are more questions that could be asked to explore this topic, so fire away!

I think it is about now when things are going to get interesting

I can feel it in my gut, and im not talking about the 21/12/2012 thing.

 

[meta-agnostic]

For those of us dealing with the aftermath of Sandy, things have already gotten plenty interesting. And it's interesting that there haven't been any posts in this thread since Sandy until now. It does have its own thread but you could say it's related. It was and in some cases still is a "grid down" scenario. Normal life stopped or was severely altered. It does make me feel more ready to deal with whatever else is coming. And drives home the point that this is no joke.

edit: a few people mentioned having the feeling of something big/awful happening in November. Do any of you feel that Sandy was it? Technically it was still October but most of the effects were being felt through early November. Or do we still have another major crisis to look forward to during/after Thanksgiving?

 

[Josi]

edit: a few people mentioned having the feeling of something big/awful happening in November. Do any of you feel that Sandy was it? Technically it was still October but most of the effects were being felt through early November. Or do we still have another major crisis to look forward to during/after Thanksgiving?

Well, I think what Israel is doing to the Palestinians right now is a horrific crisis.

 

[United Gnosis]

Well, with Israel declaring War to Hamas and bombing Gaza with a stated intent for a ground invasion, as well as Egypt jumping in on Gaza's side, we may be witnessing the early phases of a (THE) major middle east conflagration. My Work is now relentless and merciless to my ego. Progress seems exponential as well. This is more than exciting!