Train derailments and explosions and chemical spills

scotseeker said:
Lucky for me I have a whole house carbon filtration system followed by a no salt (coconut) water softener. Any water used for drinking goes through another three stage system under my sink. Never trusted municipal water systems so I take precaution. The whole house system is a large one (four foot tall, two tanks). I do believe this is the best route as even taking showers in contaminated water could make you very sick.
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Good for you, scotseeker! If you merely stuck your finger in a 5 gal bucket of water, it would take only a few minutes for your body to absorb all the chlorine. If I remember correctly, one can add powered Vitamin C to bathing water to remove or maybe tie up chlorine in bathwater.

It's been a long time since my schooling (Environmental Science and Technology) and courses included much on water systems design and treatment. As far as I was engaged thru work, in any treatment monitoring, I kept abreast of such things. Municipal drinking water treatment had never advanced far into tertiary treatment, to remove complex chemicals...or even perscription drugs people pee out...(Everybody stay calm, there's Prosaic in the water! 😁)
 
JEEP said:
you will quickly see that, over 200 yrs, RR car carriages have evolved into a modular/ dead-simple/ fail-safe/ easy to maintain – easy to swap-out & fix design!

Accidental De-Railment?
Not bloody likely!
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Exactly !!!!

Seeing as you are following this closely, have you seen a timeline of what happened there. How many cars were leaking etc. The best that I found is this

eu.cincinnati.com

East Palestine train derailment: A timeline of what happened when

The impact of a fiery train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, is still unfolding. Here's a timeline of the events, showing what happened when.
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I would think that EPA or some other org. had chemists/chemical engineer looking at what was the best way to slow down/contain as much as possible a discharge of various chemical commonly transported in large volumes on rail or in truck, should such an accident happen. This is called contingency planning.

From the dates I see in that article, it seems to me they had more than enough time to get people in chemical suits, pay them extra for hazardous duty and with earth movers or what have you build a containment area around this site. Nope, they went for burning. Releasing that mixture of various burning chemicals into the air and then dispersing over hundreds of thousand (if not millions) of acres, could not have been the best option in this situation. How someone could have argued it is is beyond me. Localized damage versus multi-state/country contamination I would think is a no-brainer decision. Unless the people in the "driver's seat" of this accident are truly stupid.
 
JEEP said:
20 MILES of a car’s wheel/axle “Sparking & On-Fire” And, the Engineer didn’t notice? Didn’t stop the train?
AND, THE AUTOMATIC FAIL-SAFE’S DIDN’T ENGAGE?
… NON – SENSE!
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If I was gonna shout sabotage, it'd be right here. Trains are part of my life, living next to RR tracks. 3 of my friends have been hit by a train over the years (happens a lot) and I'd call the company if I saw those flaming sparks, as would my neighbors.

The tracks are kept in good shape, replaced frequently...So frequently that there's an off track rail car nearby to house the gandy dancers, where they live while working.

When we had a derailment here, I know for a fact fbi agents took the wheels and undercarriage parts with them...our police chief told me so.

One thing I've noticed, since the fracking industry came, is that the amount of cars in one train has increased to a ridiculous amount. I counted 250 cars in one train! They have to pull with multiple engines and there's so many tankers! Between tankers they place cabooses I guess as buffers. They also go too effin' fast...until someone gets hit...then they slow down for a little while.
 
Have look at this CNN Health section article. Whoever wrote it is a soulless being in my opinion.

“The first half of the movie is all almost exactly what’s going on here,” Ratner said Wednesday, four days into their evacuation.

In a way, the movie has provided a point of grim humor about the situation facing the residents of East Palestine – the joke no one wanted to make.

“Everybody’s been talking about that,” Ratner said of his friends and neighbors who are keeping in close touch through the crisis. “I actually made a meme where I superimposed my face on the poster and sent it to my friends.”
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and this picture

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A Halloween picture !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great choice.

edition.cnn.com

After a train derailment, Ohio residents are living the plot of a movie they helped make | CNN

When Ben Ratner's family signed up in 2021 to be extras in the movie "White Noise," they thought it would be a fun distraction from their day-to-day life in blue-collar East Palestine, Ohio.
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Bluegazer said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1626182393156493313
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That train and track is part of Pioneer Rail, it’s a private company that isn’t linked to Norfolk Southern or Vanguard. You can see the car number in the video, go search other videos online to find the company and then even figure out what railroad that video is shot on….

en.m.wikipedia.org

Napoleon, Defiance & Western Railroad - Wikipedia

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They probably always go slow on that track, and they’ve started to fix that line. Perhaps it’s an example of degraded infrastructure, but lots of old railroads in that area get turned into bike paths if the economics of continued use don’t make sense. There’s Rails to Trails type paths all over.
 
benkostka said:
Perhaps it’s an example of degraded infrastructure
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And I think that's the point. Even if it's another company. Even if it's a small section.

And I also believe that it does not only apply to railroad tracks. Because there are also bridges that need repair, roads that need paving.

What I see, from the outside, is that neither private companies nor the government are investing in maintenance. All the taxpayers' money is going to the war in Ukraine, or to shooting down weather balloons or UFOs...

I am not a U.S. citizen, but I can say this because it is similar here. In the south area where I live, the private electric company with a 99 year concession contract has a part of the area here without electricity for more than 24/35 hours. People pay for a service that is not properly maintained.

In both cases it is a robbery to the people.

Fortunately, the government is doing something. I don't know if the U.S. government will do the same. Because that toxic cloud is sure to create millions of dollars in lawsuits.
 
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