Trans madness: jokes & memes

[Bastian]

(Still off-topic)

The whole Oedipal idea is that boys want to marry their mothers and kill their fathers. If that’s because the mother is the first person they bond with, and that applies to girls too, then why doesn’t the Oedipal complex apply to women also?

FYI, C.G. Jung proposed the equivalent for girls : the Electra complex.

Electra complex - Wikipedia

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It would also raise the question: if women become attracted to other women because of their bond with the mother, then why would they ever become attracted to men at all?

Good question.
My guess : even if they would be, let's say, first homoromantic, then a mix of genetic programming (?) and social conditioning (wedding, babies, etc.) could change it. Plus puberty, hormones...

 

[taratai]

(Off-topic)

BTW, about the second statement ("Men are straight and women are bisexual."), a friend of mine explain me a few years ago that, according to a French feminist author (I can't remember her name), that would be natural because :
- children are "in love" with their mother (first),
- consequently, the boys would generally become attracted by females (gynophilic), so "straight",
- and the girls would be first attracted by females (gynophile), so "lesbian", and in a second time would become attracted by males too (androphile), so "bisexual" (gynophile + androphile)...

It made sense to me (maybe just because it matched my prejudices).

People tend to assume everyoene is like them, and I think this feminist is simply projecting her own Lived Experience (TM) on other women. Looking at her relationship with her father would probably explain a lot.
I'm sure there are many women that do agree with her, and looking at their lives would reveal that they have similar experiences.

So... her saying this reveals to us a lot about her, but not necessarily anything about other women.

 

[T.C.]

People tend to assume everyoene is like them, and I think this feminist is simply projecting her own Lived Experience (TM) on other women. Looking at her relationship with her father would probably explain a lot.
I'm sure there are many women that do agree with her, and looking at their lives would reveal that they have similar experiences.

So... her saying this reveals to us a lot about her, but not necessarily anything about other women.

I completely agree with this. Right or wrong, this is always what I think about the people who have changed cultural views on sexuality.

Freud, Jung, Foucault, etc. Heck, you can even look at Jordan Peterson and all the times he taught men that they should become monsters on the inside, that in the words of Solzhenitsyn, “The line between good and evil runs through every human heart”.

It made sense to me when I first heard Peterson saying those things. Now, I don’t know whether I believe it anymore and that he was probably projecting a lot onto others.

Sure, we’ve all done things we regret, but becoming a nazi storm trooper murdering women and children, or an advocate for genocide? I don’t think everyone’s capable of that.

 

[Vulcan59]

 

[Ricardo]

"Sounds like cherry-picking ideas to me. (...)" , there's also the Electra complex ( link ) , but imo this is all a bunch of "crap" , divide and conquer ( paraphrasing)) as Freud at one point remarked to W. Reich ( supposedly).

 

[polly]

Indeed, "cherry-picking" is in other words the seeding of propaganda. The saying is you are what you eat, but it’s also true that you are what you watch, and we have collectively been served cherry in every form imaginable. Example:

The co-founder of Netflix is Marc Randolph. When you dig on Randolph, you learn his great uncle is Edward Bernays. When you dig on Bernays, you find that his uncle was Sigmund Freud.

Bernays, believing in Freud’s foundational idea that people’s unconscious mind leads them to be easily influenced without knowing it, wrote "Propaganda" in 1928. Bernays became the father of PR. Public Relations was born to rid the public of their negative view toward "purposeful, tactical influence."

Bernays wrote, " "We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society." By influencing public opinion using group psychology, Bernays is the "grand-uncle" of the global woke agenda in a cherry orchard as far as the eye can see and the ear can hear.

Pie anyone? Or "say Uncle?"

 

[Natus Videre]

Russell Peters can't stand the new generation's overemphasis on feelings.

[1:54 - 3:11]
We all feel different things at different times. I woke up this morning, guess what I felt? F*cken tired. You know what I felt after I had breakfast? I felt like I took a nap and I felt better. Your feelings change. I'm from the generation where nobody asked how you felt unless you were sick.

"Hey, I heard you were sick, how do you feel?"
"I feel better thanks for asking."

But nobody randomly came up to me and was like:
"Hey man, hey Russell, how do you feel?"
"Huh, what do you mean?"
"Like, are you happy, are you sad, how do you feel?"
"I feel irritated that you're asking me this stupid f*cken question."

But this generation be like:
"Hey man, you feel good, are you feeling happy?"
"Yeah, thanks for asking. Feel so good."

F*cken feelings. That's why they'll do this bullsh*t, because we took adversity away from them and they're like:
"Huh, we got nothing wrong in our lives. What should we do? If I'm a boy, I could say I'm a girl. If I'm a girl, I could say I'm a boy. No like that's been done. Oh, what do we do... what if we claim to be neither, but if we act really angry about it they have to believe it. I like it, I'm going with it, and if they question it, tell them it's how you feel, because nobody can question your feelings."