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Hey Puck,

This article entitled "Spitting Mad Jews and Angry Artists" is also a good read: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/197808-Spitting-Mad-Jews-and-Angry-Artists
 
Boy I wish the Moderators could have five minutes with my nephew! Hes a good kid but its exactly as Laura says:

Laura said:
This is being done deliberately, to "normalize" pathology, the world-view of the psychopath. When you participate, you give them power and you subtract energy from true humanity. Young people do not have to be de-humanized to have their own milieu, but that is what has happened.

Youth is a time when young people practice being adults. What kinds of adults do you think this sort of "practice" will produce? The very kind that perpetuate evil and suffering.

If the people you hang out with now carry on this way and think it is funny, you definitely need to find new friends.

The only thing the people hes hanging with have done for him is to teach him that marijuana is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Talk about dumbed-down! He refuses to listen to anyone anymore cause hes 16 going on 30 and knows it all. The things he finds funny I see no humor at all in and other things he has taken interest in are sometimes downright disgusting. His idea of art is something out of a horror movie and just the other day I saw him printing out a picture of a nazi with a gas mask on and he thought that was cool?! :/

I try to talk to him and sometimes it seems like hes listening but then he gets exposed to tv, internet and his friends at school and everything goes out the window. Sorry about stealing the thread here but it just made me think of him and sometimes I feel so bad for him not understanding what hes actually doing.
 
Pete02 said:
The only thing the people hes hanging with have done for him is to teach him that marijuana is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Talk about dumbed-down! He refuses to listen to anyone anymore cause hes 16 going on 30 and knows it all. The things he finds funny I see no humor at all in and other things he has taken interest in are sometimes downright disgusting. His idea of art is something out of a horror movie and just the other day I saw him printing out a picture of a nazi with a gas mask on and he thought that was cool?! :/

I try to talk to him and sometimes it seems like hes listening but then he gets exposed to tv, internet and his friends at school and everything goes out the window. Sorry about stealing the thread here but it just made me think of him and sometimes I feel so bad for him not understanding what hes actually doing.

It is heartbreaking to see those you are close to succumbing to the ponerization that has the whole of society in its grasp.

I completely understand where you are coming from and knowing that there is not really anything that you say or do that will have an effect on your nephew in the here and now, it may be that if he really is listening to those things you say, those seeds may bear fruit as he gets older.

I'm thinking that the teen years are years of rebellion for most people, although some never grow out of their teen years ;). As he grows older, he may find that things you have said to him actually are the truth. It will happen when it's meant to happen.

I guess all we can do is carry in our hearts the knowledge that the universe knows what it is doing and everybody has their own lessons they need to learn in their own time. However, as I said above, I know it is hard when it is someone you are close to.
 
ReBecca.S said:
Is betterment a word? I hope so. I'm going to go look that it. It probably isn't.

I think it is, but where I come from, it is perfectly acceptable to make up your own word when you can't remember the right one anyway. :)

Recently, the temp here dropped to 3deg. (which is unusual) and we had a rash of broken pipes as it thawed. I was under a cabin, trying to do a temporary patch, and a friend was helping me.
Pointing to a pile of parts, I said "Hand me that dumaflitchy please" She responded with "Ok, which one of these thingamabobs is the dumaflitchy?" :D
 
Thanks Nienna :)

I guess pretty much thats what I'm hoping as well. Is that in his older years he remembers things that were explained to him and takes it to heart. He is a good kid and even as tough as he may act you can tell hes still a softie inside. So as he matures hopefully he'll start to see that the things he is doing are wrong and make a change. He does show a lot of curiosity about the things I am doing now as far as the Fellowship goes (meditation and diet) so I know theres still hope for him. Whatever may come, I'll be there if and when he needs me. ;)
 
Puck,

I just discovered this topic this evening. I wonder if you are aware that there are long-time regular visitors here, myself included, who would be negatively affected by this kind of post, in part because of their own past experiences. It is deeply reassuring to me that your post was intercepted and received the response that it did.

Puck said:
...I recall lunch table conversations in high school, they were always mindless, entertaining, and especially raunchy. We thought they were hilarious. Somewhere away from parents or teachers, we could just 'let loose', say whatever we wanted, and laugh at each other and see who could 'one up' it.
Sure, if you are all that matters.

It strikes me now how the language in the video just slide past me. I didn't really hear what was being said, I was programmed to hear it as 'something to laugh at' and so I did. Perhaps something similar happens when spellbinders speak, the cognitive response is short-circuited and the intended 'reaction' is elicited via emotional hooks and triggers. That explanation seems horribly insufficient. :-[...
This language is really hard not to hear, and I don't see what "spellbinders" have to do with it. A "laugh" response can come from different things. What did this one come from?
 
Pete02 said:
Boy I wish the Moderators could have five minutes with my nephew! Hes a good kid but its exactly as Laura says:

Laura said:
This is being done deliberately, to "normalize" pathology, the world-view of the psychopath. When you participate, you give them power and you subtract energy from true humanity. Young people do not have to be de-humanized to have their own milieu, but that is what has happened.

Youth is a time when young people practice being adults. What kinds of adults do you think this sort of "practice" will produce? The very kind that perpetuate evil and suffering.

If the people you hang out with now carry on this way and think it is funny, you definitely need to find new friends.

The only thing the people hes hanging with have done for him is to teach him that marijuana is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Talk about dumbed-down! He refuses to listen to anyone anymore cause hes 16 going on 30 and knows it all. The things he finds funny I see no humor at all in and other things he has taken interest in are sometimes downright disgusting. His idea of art is something out of a horror movie and just the other day I saw him printing out a picture of a nazi with a gas mask on and he thought that was cool?! :/


Hey Pete

I'm sorry to hear your nephew is going through this phase in his life. I went through the exact same thing around his age and I just wanted to say that no matter what.. don't lose hope in him. I hope his parents don't either. He needs guides right now more than anything in the world. But not pushy guides- guides that are there to lend him a helping hand when he falls. And he probably will fall, if he's hanging out with kids who are prone to that kind of behavior. Sometimes we need shocks to wake us up from our current environment/people we hang out with. That's what happened to me- I received a BIG shock which caused me to open my eyes and look around. When this happens, you need love and care and not to be told "I told you SO!" So keep this in mind should your nephew ever receive this shock from his friends and surroundings.

It seems like you're taking the right approach with him so far- I just wanted you to know that I know how both of you feel and empathize with both of you.
 
Thank you also Deedlet :)

I know exactly what you mean and believe me, a couple of years ago I would've done just what you said and told him "I told ya so" but thankfully due to everyone on the forum here and the E/E program, I am now much more calm, straight thinking and more externally considerate to others than I used to be. Even his dad, doing his Sufi practice, is much more calm and easier to talk with as well. The boys in good hands and we both try to explain things to him as we go. I am very hopeful for him, its just horrifying to see some of the things hes into nowadays is all.
 
Hey Pete

I'm sorry to hear your nephew is going through this phase in his life. I went through the exact same thing around his age and I just wanted to say that no matter what.. don't lose hope in him. I hope his parents don't either. He needs guides right now more than anything in the world. But not pushy guides- guides that are there to lend him a helping hand when he falls. And he probably will fall, if he's hanging out with kids who are prone to that kind of behavior. Sometimes we need shocks to wake us up from our current environment/people we hang out with. That's what happened to me- I received a BIG shock which caused me to open my eyes and look around. When this happens, you need love and care and not to be told "I told you SO!" So keep this in mind should your nephew ever receive this shock from his friends and surroundings.

It seems like you're taking the right approach with him so far- I just wanted you to know that I know how both of you feel and empathize with both of you.

Yes indeed. I remember when my youngest daughter was just spinning out of control and into everything you don't want you kids involved in. She came back to reality with a huge thud when a very close friend of hers tried to commit suicide. Well, that gave her such a shock that she turned her life around, stopped associating with the wrong sort of people, started to apply herself at school and once she finished school went out and got herself a really great job. So different now, and such a big change from that shock. So there is hope, and a big shock can make all the difference.
 
Just a thought Pete02, does he have a facebook account? Perhaps this could be a way to expose him to a different influence? Just casually mention that you have an account...
 
Hi all

This thread got me thinking about what is considered pathological and what is not. Before I used to think smoking was bad yet now I smoke around three cig a day due to the benefits I read about nicotine. Now I don't go everywhere smoking in front of peoples' faces because that will be offensive to nonsmokers. I believe the same applies here, rap music by its nature carries a lot of profanity, but sometimes I listen to it because it can be sort of funny. Again, I will not go around carrying a jukebox and playing rap at maximum volume, unless I had a statement to make :D
 
truth seeker said:
Just a thought Pete02, does he have a facebook account? Perhaps this could be a way to expose him to a different influence? Just casually mention that you have an account...

Funny you mention it, he was one of the first ones FB suggested to add as my friend! :P I imagine that once you add me as your friend, you will be able to see my list of friends. Hes the only really young one on there, his name is Mike and I believe hes already checked out my friends and some of the things we post about.
 
Methinks this thread shows that ponerization is continuing, alive and well... Perhaps this thread may be an opportunity for some to take attention. Puck, your description of lunch room garbage talk goes back to the 1970's in my recollections, tain't nothing new. The program was already active in place. I don't think much has changed.
To what may matter is that the social programming needs to be noticed before one realizes that there are no coincidences here. To me, the degradation of society may be controlled, otherwise this degradation is just "normal" evolution.? Would that then mean that the populace majority agrees with the status quo, and perhaps contributes development more into a black hole. Or full blown 3D STS...
To awaken one needs to realize (LEARN) possiblities, potentials, and make your choice. Ya gotta KNOW what your choosing...
 
Not to steal the thread anymore than I already have but its nice to see ya again Al Today ;)

I haven't seen your avatar in quite sometime. Welcome back!
 
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