Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

This is about German politics, but it might better fit here at the moment.

Basically, the CDU (center rightist mainstreamers) always categorically rejected any form of collaboration with the AfD. Now, after several killings by migrants, its leader Friedrich Merz suddenly shifted and talks about possibly using AfD votes in the parliament to pass a law that amounts to the same thing the AfD has always wanted, namely remigration of migrants/refugees.

The story is a bit more complicated, you can read the details in this article. But this represents a seismic shift in German politics. Granted, this is partly a maneuver to placate the conservative base and get more votes for the upcoming elections, but still, it would never have happened even a few months ago, and there is an inner logic to this that might upend the political landscape in Germany. Other CDU politicians suddenly take a different tack towards the AfD, even defending it as a democratic party that shouldn't be smeared as "Nazi".

I wonder what's going on. It sure seems as if Merz and gang can "smell" that the wind is shifting: the global Deep State for some reason has decided to tone down the war on the "far-right", now Trump is in office, and things have changed. Why that is, I don't know, but it's an interesting data point that this "awareness" might have reached German elites. Interesting times.
 
This is about German politics, but it might better fit here at the moment.

Basically, the CDU (center rightist mainstreamers) always categorically rejected any form of collaboration with the AfD. Now, after several killings by migrants, its leader Friedrich Merz suddenly shifted and talks about possibly using AfD votes in the parliament to pass a law that amounts to the same thing the AfD has always wanted, namely remigration of migrants/refugees.

The story is a bit more complicated, you can read the details in this article. But this represents a seismic shift in German politics. Granted, this is partly a maneuver to placate the conservative base and get more votes for the upcoming elections, but still, it would never have happened even a few months ago, and there is an inner logic to this that might upend the political landscape in Germany. Other CDU politicians suddenly take a different tack towards the AfD, even defending it as a democratic party that shouldn't be smeared as "Nazi".

I wonder what's going on. It sure seems as if Merz and gang can "smell" that the wind is shifting: the global Deep State for some reason has decided to tone down the war on the "far-right", now Trump is in office, and things have changed. Why that is, I don't know, but it's an interesting data point that this "awareness" might have reached German elites. Interesting times.

My bet is that Merz himself is smelling blood. Namely, he is hoping to become Chancellor by this move. Merz IMO is certainly a pretty bad person and about the worst thing you could think of as chancellor and he strikes me as the kind of guy that would do everything to get power. A sneaky move by him, basically. Hopefully, enough Germans can see through this obvious switching of flags of Merz in order to win and take out the power of the AFD.
 
What has this to do with Russians? I don't see a connection at all. In some areas of the country there may be a lack of trained personnel to go after these criminals, then why not bounty hunters, why do you think thats corrupt? I say do it. Of course the cartels have been armed and working with the deep state, its a serious problem. That's suppose to be ending now which I'm sure there will be arguments that's not the case. I can see where certain private security groups, who are usually ex-military, would do a good job of tracking down these people. We need all the help we can get and they're more flexible as the article states and well trained. Sounds good to me. They have already been working on the boarder helping the trafficked kids. We have serious problems here, peoples lives are at stake and the country is being attacked.
Mercenaries at Ukraine came to my mind.

If the purpose is only to tracking, fine. But cartels may not stay so calm to be caught red-handed and most likely they will retaliate. There is a lot of that retaliation events over Mexican cities, people are terrified to say the least. That could happen at US soil, if certain people who are pulling the strings are interested in having violence at the border at both soils. Perhaps also I had seen may times what had happens after a preemptive strikes at other countries. Letters of Marque and Reprise may be just a springboard.

As to bounty hunters getting illegal criminals that could be just an undocumented migrants, understanding that many refer to them in the same way because they committed the crime of illegal entry. It seems to me like a witch hunt, though.
 
After reading the last few posts in this thread, it occurs to me that if Americans really wanted to get out of this, they have to do penance of sorts, they have to repent, they have to acknowledge their misdeeds, ask for forgiveness and forgive themselves. The trouble is, Trump is more the type to want to move forward, obviously in a less mafia-like way than his predecessors, but unfortunately notwithstanding their past misdeeds. But, even if Trump would recognize it, and as read on the forum (maybe this thread), the problem is the general American who still strongly believe that they are the master of the planet, the stronger country ... it's not possible to change this mindset, it would require at least 2 generations + correct education about REAL history, it's simply impossible.

The C's summed it up nicely in the last session with their laconic response to Joe's question:

(Joe) Only a little bit. Trump stated this week, in his inauguration speech, that the next four years would be the greatest years in American history. How likely is this to be the case?
A: Not very.


So yes, It's possible that Trump will realize that it's not as simple as he thought, that it's not anymore the US as it was after WW2, and that he has to face countries which became bigger and stronger than them (will he realize ?). What is disappointing is that even if it may get better with Russia, the script against China looks the same than under biden, they remain aggressive, they still need "a rival", US always needed a rival, or some, like if they needed to always prove to themselves that they are ... "capable", they are the stronger, etc ... what an egoistic civilisation they became, it's sad. I can't help to think how ... "zen" China is, like a parent with a turbulent child. There's a kind of maturity here, at the level of the countries, or empire, the Chinese act with maturity, they are more STO oriented toward other civilisations when the US acts like a child, and EU ... ahhhh, EU ... a nevrotic grand father who rotted instead of evolving.

I wonder how is it going to unfold !?

Regarding Hegseth or RFK and probably others ... all depends how they evolved. But maybe these guys are the right people for the job, you know, people who visited the bottom and succeeded to raise back from their own personal challenges. They are maybe better suited to understand the many predator minds that surround them then one person who has a 100% clean curriculum. At least, my personal intuition is that i trust RFK, for Hegseth or other i don't know, i have already hard to follow what is happening eu EU ... thus for the US, i prefer to read US people views.
 
My bet is that Merz himself is smelling blood. Namely, he is hoping to become Chancellor by this move. Merz IMO is certainly a pretty bad person and about the worst thing you could think of as chancellor and he strikes me as the kind of guy that would do everything to get power. A sneaky move by him, basically. Hopefully, enough Germans can see through this obvious switching of flags of Merz in order to win and take out the power of the AFD.
At the moment, German politics is transparent . In terms of political ponerology, power and maintaining power is the leading thought. The old parties have completely lost touch with the people - the people now recognize this It is becoming increasingly clear that this is all about pure power politics. From a bird's eye view, everyone involved appears strangely stupid, short-sighted and in a certain way mentally disturbed. Something is happening at the moment that I have never experienced in this form before. I have been asking my patients before elections for years what they intend to vote for. It has always been kept a secret. For about a month now, I no longer need to ask - they tell me that they are voting for the AFD. This applies to all age groups and the strange thing is that nobody is afraid to take a public stance. This trend has been confirmed to me by many people - perhaps it is an indication that people are daring to speak their mind publicly.
 
UKColumn's news video for 1/28/25 contains a segment (9:18 -19:33) on Trump, Trade Deals, and the NHS (including its massive data banks on private citizens). Peter Thiel's company Palantir, which is already vigorously entrenched in the UK medical system, is a key 'contender.'

One of some articles UKColumn references in this segment is Opening NHS to private firms will be price of Trump trade deal, No 10 warned. Two quotes from the article:

-----"Full access to the NHS is expected to be a key demand from the US when fresh talks begin with the UK on a free-trade agreement, Downing Street has been warned."

-----".......... while it was unclear what shape the trade talks would take, the NHS is something US pharmaceuticals will demand to be on the table."

The people are not happy.
 
My bet is that Merz himself is smelling blood. Namely, he is hoping to become Chancellor by this move. Merz IMO is certainly a pretty bad person and about the worst thing you could think of as chancellor and he strikes me as the kind of guy that would do everything to get power. A sneaky move by him, basically. Hopefully, enough Germans can see through this obvious switching of flags of Merz in order to win and take out the power of the AFD.

Yes, Merz is as Deep State as it gets. Because of this, it is an interesting Data Point should he really go for a change of attitude towards the AfD - it might mean that some forces in the Deep State "let populism rise" in a sort of controlled way (or so they think)? Maybe to use it to their own ends, like sowing division, preparing the ground for a new form of empire? It's still not clear this will happen though, the CDU apparently is backpaddling a bit. I guess we'll find out!
 
A false flag attack on the USA (or its military) that forces Trump to kick off another war will make it impossible for him to fulfill his main campaign promises, and will revert things to full 'deep state' control.

I've often thought this would be the 'big miscalculation' the C's referred to, a false flag that was too obvious and backfired.

A: The situation looks bleak indeed. But remember the Achilles heel of STS: Wishful Thinking.

Q: In this case, how is wishful thinking going to help?

A: There will be a big miscalculation made. It will reveal the "Man behind the curtain."
 
Yes, Merz is as Deep State as it gets. Because of this, it is an interesting Data Point should he really go for a change of attitude towards the AfD - it might mean that some forces in the Deep State "let populism rise" in a sort of controlled way (or so they think)? Maybe to use it to their own ends, like sowing division, preparing the ground for a new form of empire? It's still not clear this will happen though, the CDU apparently is backpaddling a bit. I guess we'll find out!

One thing seems clear: the AFD would be willing to do a coalition with the CDU, as explicitly stated by Weidel recently. She said the AFD wants to change things in Germany and not just be a populous movement with nothing to say, therefore they would be willing to do such a coalition. Which IMO is a sensible and right thing to say/do if you seriously want to get things done. Therefore the move of Merz could also be the groundwork to make such a thing possible (AFD and CDU doing a coalition and govern Germany alone). One rational might be that Merz himself hopes to get the chancellor position through that and/or his masters think they can handle the AFD and/or pretend that there is still a democracy and people get what they want through it because there is to much pressure from people.
 
A false flag attack on the USA (or its military) that forces Trump to kick off another war will make it impossible for him to fulfill his main campaign promises, and will revert things to full 'deep state' control.

I'd say what we need to keep an eye out for is a deep state backlash in a shocking and provocative way.

"Shocking and provocative" being the key - I don't think any old false flag will do. The MAGA base (including some of those in office) is too aware of these things, IMO. I think it would need to be something quite clever and unexpected that generates the right kind of energy that makes "taking revenge" irresistible to MAGA. We know that the psychos are not very imaginative in that way, but the deeper forces are very crafty. So we'll see I suppose.
 
I wonder what's going on. It sure seems as if Merz and gang can "smell" that the wind is shifting: the global Deep State for some reason has decided to tone down the war on the "far-right", now Trump is in office, and things have changed. Why that is, I don't know, but it's an interesting data point that this "awareness" might have reached German elites. Interesting times.

The gridlocked German political system has finally come under pressure as there are only so much knife attacks and murders their controlled media network can cover up. Now that the deep state is turning the tables on them all kinds of conflicts among the political class may arise. I think the puppet masters are prepared to throw their green/left-wing minions under the bus to use them as scapegoats for the coming financial and societal breakdown.

If Merz cannot find a solution that placates both factions of his party - the conservatives and the Merkel-type green deal "progressives" -chances are that the CDU could split into two parties which would horrify their scared voters.

Merz who headed the supervisory board of the German branch of BlackRock asset management corporation for almost ten years will obviously win the election by scraping together as many system parties as needed for a majority, but he might only be a short-term chancellor.
 
"Shocking and provocative" being the key - I don't think any old false flag will do. The MAGA base (including some of those in office) is too aware of these things, IMO. I think it would need to be something quite clever and unexpected that generates the right kind of energy that makes "taking revenge" irresistible to MAGA

"Dirty" nuke blamed on Iran?
 
A false flag attack on the USA (or its military) that forces Trump to kick off another war will make it impossible for him to fulfill his main campaign promises, and will revert things to full 'deep state' control.

Penny Kelly--I know her shortcomings--but I do think she has intuitive abilities. She has said that she sees major conflict on the Southern border, especially Arizona. Deep state backing cartels to fund out and out proxy war with Trump?
 
I can't help to think how ... "zen" China is, like a parent with a turbulent child. There's a kind of maturity here, at the level of the countries, or empire, the Chinese act with maturity, they are more STO oriented toward other civilisations when the US acts like a child, and EU ... ahhhh, EU ... a nevrotic grand father who rotted instead of evolving.
There is a quote from one of the older C's sessions about the Asian people being the most intelligent / evolved (having trouble finding the right session). Anyway, it's a very ancient civilization - and in many cases, they do seem to be the 'adults in the room'.

I have been asking my patients before elections for years what they intend to vote for. It has always been kept a secret. For about a month now, I no longer need to ask - they tell me that they are voting for the AFD. This applies to all age groups and the strange thing is that nobody is afraid to take a public stance. This trend has been confirmed to me by many people - perhaps it is an indication that people are daring to speak their mind publicly.
Made me think of this recent Sott article on Preference Cascades:
........public opinion was solidly on the side of the regime. But in each case, something changes and the mood changes. The hidden truth becomes exposed. The esoteric becomes exoteric. People start speaking their minds and acting according to their actual views. In each case, the regime lost control and the prevailing orthodoxy collapsed.

This is what Kuran calls the moment of the preference cascade. It can happen all at once. Seemingly out of nowhere, people reject the caste system, communism, and DEI hiring, behaving as if each system was always awful and had to go immediately.

A good example is the collapse of the Berlin Wall. One day it was heavily enforced, essential to national security and national identity, guarded with killer weaponry, and approved of by everyone on one side. The next day, it was like no one really cared anymore and the cars raced through and the thing was torn down while the soldiers watched and then joined in.

That is a great example of falsified preferences turning suddenly to a preference cascade.
Perhaps the Trump election is a part of the catalyst that has been building for some time...
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I've often thought this would be the 'big miscalculation' the C's referred to, a false flag that was too obvious and backfired.
"Shocking and provocative" being the key - I don't think any old false flag will do. The MAGA base (including some of those in office) is too aware of these things, IMO. I think it would need to be something quite clever and unexpected that generates the right kind of energy that makes "taking revenge" irresistible to MAGA. We know that the psychos are not very imaginative in that way, but the deeper forces are very crafty. So we'll see I suppose.

Yeah - they aren't that creative and consistently use the same playbook. The good news is that so many have caught on now and know what to look for, so it could well backfire Hugely! My concern is that Trump et al are so beholden to the Zionists, that any perceived assault on Israel will warrant a knee-jerk reaction - the Zionists know that and would have no problem using that - they are famous for turning on their own people to achieve their aims. Unfortunately, there are a LOT of Trumpers who are just as blind to the machinations of the Zionists.
 
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