Trump era: Fascist dawn, or road to liberation?

This is about a twelve minute clip from a Russian Political show with English subtitles. I've come across a few segments of this show and find it fascinating to watch because the dialog is fast pace and their opinions tend to be straight forward. It's really is a different spin on topics then the way American shows are produced.

Trump Fears For His Life - American President Trying His Best Not To End Up Like Kennedy

Published on Jul 24, 2018 (11:49 min.)
 
US President Donald Trump left for Vietnam on Monday, putting him out of the country for one of the most confrontational week long stretches he’s faced from the Democratic-held House.

Tue Feb 26, 2019 - Dems Set to Challenge Trump During His Foreign Trip

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Dems Set to Challenge Trump During His Foreign Trip


While Trump gets set to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, the House is expected to vote Tuesday on a measure overturning his emergency declaration to build a wall on the Mexican border, The Hill reported.

Trump is scheduled to meet Wednesday and Thursday with Kim in Hanoi, Vietnam, which is 12 hours ahead of Washington.

The next day, the House Committee on Oversight and Reform will hear testimony from Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen, setting the stage for some of the strangest split-screen cable news shots in US history.

The Cohen hearing has the potential to get under Trump’s skin. The American president has labeled his former employee a “rat” and a “weak person”, but his testimony seems poised to be a cable news bonanza.

It’s also possible it could steal attention away from Trump’s second summit with Kim — though some wonder if the president has an announcement up his sleeve in Hanoi that would be meant to take those eyeballs back.

Once upon a time, lawmakers in Congress were likely to avoid such images. The idea of politics stopping at water’s edge was meant to limit criticism of a president traveling abroad in the nation’s interest.

But that tradition has greatly eroded in the past two decades — and it seems largely forgotten in the Trump era. Trump himself has criticized rivals while overseas and been the subject of such criticism.

“In terms of Congress deferring to the White House on foreign policy issues, historically there was much more decorum, generally. But the end of that decorum happened long before Trump was elected,” said Ruth Wasem, a professor of policy practice at the LBJ School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas.

“I think this is part of a culmination of how things have been going,” added Wasem, who is an opinion contributor for The Hill.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who will travel with Trump to Vietnam, downplayed whether it’s inappropriate for Congress to hold a hearing that could undermine the president as he holds talks with Kim.

Congress has its own authority. They can move how they choose to proceed,” Pompeo told “Fox News Sunday” anchor Chris Wallace, adding, “I know what we'll be focused on. I'm very confident that the president and our team will be focused on the singular objective that we are headed to Hanoi for.”

Democrats are likely to grill Cohen on the president’s business dealings, his foreign interests and payments to two women during the 2016 campaign who alleged they had affairs with the president.

Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations related to those payments, as well as charges of bank fraud, tax fraud and lying to Congress about the timing of negotiations on a Trump Tower Moscow. He was sentenced late last year to serve three years in jail.

The fight over Trump’s border wall will be another dominant storyline during the president’s trip.

House lawmakers will vote, likely within hours of Trump’s arrival in Hanoi, on a resolution of disapproval that would block the president’s national emergency declaration to secure funding for his long-desired wall along the Southern border.

A Democratic leadership aide told The Hill that the president’s travel plans played no role in the House floor schedule.

The resolution is expected to pass the House and shift the spotlight to the Senate, where a handful of Republicans may side with Democrats to oppose Trump’s emergency over concerns it skirts congressional authority.

The White House did not respond to a request for comment from The Hill about whether it's concerned about the timing of Cohen's testimony or the emergency declaration vote.

There's little talk of Congress easing up its challenges to Trump while he is in North Korea.

Wasem highlighted that former Presidents Nixon and Clinton didn't get a reprieve from adversarial lawmakers amid investigations during their terms, and that conservative critics regularly chastised former President Obama during foreign trips.

She noted that both Trump's talks with Kim and Democrats' push to undo the president's emergency declaration are time sensitive, and Congress shouldn't be expected to hold its fire as a result.

“The severity of what’s going on is not to be minimized,” she said, adding, “In terms of both the negotiations with Korea and dealing with the declaration of a national emergency, those are both very serious things. Neither business should stop because of the other.”

Trump on Monday sought to shore up support for his emergency declaration before leaving the country.

“I hope our great Republican Senators don’t get led down the path of weak and ineffective Border Security,” Trump tweeted, noting, “Be strong and smart, don’t fall into the Democrats ‘trap’ of Open Borders and Crime!”


North Korean leader Kim Jong Un arrived in Vietnam on Tuesday for a summit with U.S. President Donald Trump where they will try to reach agreement on how to implement a North Korean pledge to give up its nuclear weapons.

February 26, 2019 - North Korea's Kim awaits Trump in Vietnam for Second summit

North Korea's Kim awaits Trump in Vietnam for second summit
North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un arrives at the Dong Dang railway station, Vietnam, at the border with China, February 26, 2019. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha
North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un arrives at the Dong Dang railway station, Vietnam, at the border with China, February 26, 2019. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha

Trump is due in the Vietnamese capital, Hanoi, at about 9 p.m. (1400 GMT).

They will meet for a brief one-on-one conversation on Wednesday evening, followed by a dinner, at which they will each be accompanied by two guests and interpreters, White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders told reporters on Air Force One.

The two leaders would meet again on Thursday, she said.

Their talks come eight months after their historic summit in Singapore, the first between a sitting U.S. president and a North Korean leader.


U.S. President Donald Trump will meet North Korean leader Kim Jong Un for an initial one-on-one meeting on Wednesday evening in Vietnam followed by dinner with advisers, White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders told reporters on Air Force One.

February 26, 2019 - Trump will have initial meeting with North Korea's Kim on Wednesday Evening

Trump will have initial meeting with North Korea’s Kim on Wednesday...
U.S. President Donald Trump walks to board Air Force One for travel to a second summit meeting with North Korea's Kim Jong Un in Hanoi, Vietnam from Joint Base Andrews, Maryland, U.S., February 25, 2019. REUTERS/Leah Millis
U.S. President Donald Trump walks to board Air Force One for travel to a second summit meeting with North Korea's Kim Jong Un in Hanoi, Vietnam from Joint Base Andrews, Maryland, U.S., February 25, 2019. REUTERS/Leah Millis

Trump is slated to arrive in Vietnam late Tuesday local time. On Wednesday morning he will hold a meeting with Vietnamese leaders before the start of the summit with North Korea that evening. Follow-up meetings with Kim will take place on Thursday.


President Donald Trump said Monday the US and China are "very, very close" to reaching an agreement on a trade deal one day after he announced he would delay additional tariffs on Beijing.

Tue Feb 26, 2019 - Trump: Trade Deal with China 'Very, Very Close'

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Trump: Trade Deal with China 'Very, Very Close'


Speaking to a group of governors at the White House, Trump stated that Chinese representatives would likely be coming back "quickly" for more negotiations, The Hill reported

"I told you how well we did with our trade talks in China, and it looks like they’ll be coming back quickly again," Trump stressed, adding, "And we’re going to have another summit. We're going to have a signing summit, which is even better."
"So hopefully we can get that completed, but we’re getting very, very close," he noted.


Trump tweeted Sunday evening that the two countries had made "substantial progress" in trade talks. As a result, he said, the US would delay a tariff hike that was set to go into effect on Friday.

"Assuming both sides make additional progress, we will be planning a Summit for President Xi and myself, at Mar-a-Lago, to conclude an agreement," Trump added.

While top officials from both countries have met multiple times over the last few weeks, Trump has long indicated that he and Chinese President Xi Jinping would need to sign off on any final agreement.

The US and China have been engaged in a tit-for-tat trade dispute over the past several months, with each side levying billions of dollars in tariffs on the other.

Trump and Xi agreed during the Group of 20 summit late last year to a truce that would prevent tariffs on Chinese goods from increasing from 10 percent to 25 percent until March 1, giving the two sides room for negotiations.

The president had signaled in recent weeks that the March 1 date could be flexible, telling reporters at various times that it was not a "magical date", and that moving it would "not be inappropriate".


White House adviser Jared Kushner, giving a broad outline of a U.S. peace plan for the Middle East, said it will address final-status issues of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including establishing borders.

February 26, 2019 - Kushner, in Gulf, says US Mideast Peace Plan addresses Borders issue

Kushner, in Gulf, says U.S. Mideast peace plan addresses borders issue
FILE PHOTO - White House adviser Jared Kushner looks on during the Middle East summit in Warsaw, Poland, February 14, 2019.  REUTERS/Kacper Pempel
FILE PHOTO - White House adviser Jared Kushner looks on during the Middle East summit in Warsaw, Poland, February 14, 2019. REUTERS/Kacper Pempel

In an interview broadcast on Monday on Sky News Arabia during a visit to U.S.-allied Gulf Arab states, Kushner made no specific mention of a Palestinian state, whose creation had been at the foundation of Washington’s peace efforts for two decades.

But he said the long-awaited peace proposal would build on “a lot of the efforts in the past”, including the 1990s Oslo accords that provided a foundation for Palestinian statehood, and would require concessions from both sides.

U.S. officials said that Kushner, who is President Donald Trump’s son-in-law, is expected to focus on the economic component of the plan during the week-long trip.

But in the interview, Kushner said the proposal also contained a “political plan, which is very detailed” and “really about establishing borders and resolving final-status issues”. Kushner said Washington would present the plan only after the April 9 vote.
 
I wasn't quite sure where to put this so it's going here. This guy who video blogs as "Mr. Reagan" has a really interesting take on AOC, the gist of which is that she was more or less 'cast' in the role of congressional candidate by the group Justice Democrats, who is headed, of all people, by Cenk Uygar. He goes through some pretty damning clips highlighting how everything that comes out of AOC's mouth is scripted and coached. It does explain how sometimes she says intelligent things, and at other times she sounds like a twit.

One of her campaign managers is Saikat Chakrabarti, founder Justice Democrats and now AOC's Chief of Staff. He has a strong background in Alinsky principles, which is pretty scary. He the one who got caught for improper use of campaign funds.

Uygar also hired a lot of pissed-off Bernie operatives like Zack Exley who were eager to stick it to the establishment Dems.
Exley was Organizing Director at MoveOn.org during the group's campaign to prevent the Iraq War, and during its controversial involvement with the Dean campaign. He was criticized then too, for "rigging" the "MoveOn Primary" in favor of Dean—a charge the group rejected.

Prior to working for MoveOn, Exley created the political parody website, GWBush.com, as well as cnndn.com, a site that parodied financial reporting. Both sites attracted legal action by the Bush's 2000 election campaign and CNN, respectively. CNN successfully closed cnndn.com. The Bush attack led to increased publicity for Exley's site and set legal precedent[9] that has allowed political websites to operate without FEC regulation. In response to GWBush.com, George W. Bush—then a presidential candidate—called Exley a "garbage man" and said he believed the website should be forced to be shut down, explaining "There ought to be limits to freedom."

Around the 2000 election controversy, Exley used a website to allow citizens to self-organize more than 100 protests around the United States.

Exley also used to run the site Revolution in Jesusland, a blog that sought to create dialog between the secular left and groups within Evangelical Christianity that promote economic and social justice as a matter of faith.
Exley began his political career working as a union organizer, and has also worked as a computer programmer.

After the 2016 United States Presidential election, Exley along with other members of the 2016 presidential campaign of Bernie Sanders, Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks and Kyle Kulinski of Secular Talk created the Justice Democrats in 2017 in attempt to reform the Democratic Party and take on President Donald Trump.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Exley#cite_note-WaPo-14
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Exley#cite_note-WaPo-14

The plan, as explicated by Uygar is to run as many ultra-progressive candidates as possible, even against other Democrats with the goal of gaining control of the Congress and eventually a president. The tactics haven't received a lot of media attention so far, because it's mostly been a in-house problem for the Dems. But Mr. Reagan is really worried about the larger vision.

 
The plan, as explicated by Uygar is to run as many ultra-progressive candidates as possible, even against other Democrats with the goal of gaining control of the Congress and eventually a president. The tactics haven't received a lot of media attention so far, because it's mostly been a in-house problem for the Dems. But Mr. Reagan is really worried about the larger vision.

That video is really an eye opener, Thanks for Posting it, Herondancer! :-)

The implications are serious, if they are anywhere successful in their "end game", as described in the video? It's something to keep in mind when I'm reading The Hill reports? To be honest, I haven't paid too much attention to AOC because she tends to come off as a sassy-mouth spoiled teenager.

This plan they have, I wonder how they plan to get past the AIPAC Lobby - that controls Congress?
 
This plan they have, I wonder how they plan to get past the AIPAC Lobby - that controls Congress?

Oooooh, that's a really interesting question! The successful Justice Dems (Omar, Khalek) have have been talking smack about Israel and AIPAC, at least so far. Even if they've had to walk back some of their statements, those statements are still out there.

If the JDs keep fielding folks like them how will AIPAC respond? A quiet backroom strong-arm? Open war? I'd prefer the latter, as it would bring them out into the open, the way Trump has exposed a bit of the Deep State. 🍿anyone?
 
If the JDs keep fielding folks like them how will AIPAC respond? A quiet backroom strong-arm? Open war? I'd prefer the latter, as it would bring them out into the open, the way Trump has exposed a bit of the Deep State. 🍿anyone?

Thanks, watched that video you posted and see that it is taking off with other video commentators in youtube-land - in one they were pushing the anti-Semite shtick hard in their message against AOC and Co., which they are on the record of promoting.

There are a few very recent articles (Times, Post, Fox) on this question of AIPAC/AOC, and this is a counter from the JPost.


Since Soros ties were brought up in Mr. Reagan's account, and as open as it seems to be, the whole thing gets messy as in By Way of Deception and perhaps the popcorn bag best represents this case for now.

Getting past AIPAC to fill congressional seats is not something, OSIT, that would be allowed unless there is another agreed upon play going on. What that is I don't know. What are those in other circles waiting for in the face of all that is going on? Whatever the case, one can get the impression that the whole USofA thing is being orchestrated to go kaflooey in short order.

The Session 5 August 2017 brings up some comments of the revolutionary kind (interesting as it also had some focus on Venezuela and Maduro at the same time).


 
One of her campaign managers is Saikat Chakrabarti, founder Justice Democrats and now AOC's Chief of Staff. He has a strong background in Alinsky principles, which is pretty scary. He the one who got caught for improper use of campaign funds.

On that note, consider the "projected" circumstances - a Russian Economic Development Minister recently stated during a meeting at Kommersant’s Academy of Journalism ...

US President Donald Trump will be re-elected for a second term and then he will be replaced by a left-wing Democrat, Russian Economic Development Minister Maxim Oreshkin told students during a meeting at Kommersant’s Academy of Journalism on Monday.


March 4, 2019 - Russia's economy chief explores the Trump phenomenon, sees re-election in 2020

Russia's economy chief explores the Trump phenomenon, sees re-election in 2020

US President Donald Trump

US President Donald Trump © AP Photo/Evan Vucci

"The likely political scenario in America is that Trump will be re-elected for a second term and later he will be replaced by a Democrat, who will be an extreme leftist. I see this as the most probable scenario. Otherwise, a left-wing Democrat could emerge now if America comes up against an economic crisis earlier than by the next election," he noted.

According to the Russian Minister, the Trump phenomenon is not a coincidence, but is a direct aftermath of what is happening in the world.

Over the past 30 years, real wages of the middle class and the lower middle class have not budged,
and spending on healthcare and education, net of inflation, has tripled. This means that America is "not a society of equal opportunities anymore," the minister stressed.

"America’s shattered stability is visible in its economic performance. The rate of labor productivity over the past 10-15 years has substantially slowed down because the quality of human resources, and social mobility has actually worsened. America has splintered into several various parts: New York, California, maybe Texas and several other major areas. And then there is the rest of America, which turned out to be flyover country cast aside by that strata of society," he stressed.

According to the Minister, globalization generated new earnings for the US, but they were concentrated in the hands of just 20 companies and 1 million people working there. "It’s clear that that part of the population, who lost out in this process, is dissatisfied. They are told now that China and Mexico, which snapped up their jobs, are entirely to blame for this. However, Trump is addressing those problems, which truly concern the majority of citizens. That’s why even though he lost New York and California, the majority of voters cast their ballots for him," Oreshkin pointed out.

(Note: A long but an excellent article on Putin and his personal experiences with 3 American Presidents.)

November 08, 2016 - Waiting for the 45th: A look back on Putin’s relations with three US presidents
Waiting for the 45th: A look back on Putin’s relations with three US presidents

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush

Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and George W. Bush © www.flickr.com/whitehouse

Over the years he represented Russia in the international scene Russian President Vladimir Putin had a chance to shake hands with three US leaders - two Democrats and one Republican. His contacts with the 43rd President of the United States, George W. Bush, were the longest and most eventful. And the most complex, if not dramatic ones, were his contacts with the man who will soon leave the White House - Barack Obama.
 
The plan, as explicated by Uygar is to run as many ultra-progressive candidates as possible, even against other Democrats with the goal of gaining control of the Congress and eventually a president. The tactics haven't received a lot of media attention so far, because it's mostly been a in-house problem for the Dems. But Mr. Reagan is really worried about the larger vision.

herondancer,

That whole video was extremely thought provoking for me. The plan seems so brilliant (almost out of this world?).
Aside from buzzwords like Soros, Alinsky and origins/inspirations for The Young Turks and Saikat Chakrabarti I was almost cheering for the replacement of incumbent Democrat/puppets until I heard the word puppets used to describe the SDs.

The question is what is the real agenda of a new leftist leaning "progressive" party agenda maybe masterminded by Saikat Chakrabarti whose T-shirt icon pictures Subhas Chandra Bose who did have connections to Hitler and was accused of having Nazi sympathies.

If the JDs keep fielding folks like them how will AIPAC respond? A quiet backroom strong-arm? Open war? I'd prefer the latter, as it would bring them out into the open, the way Trump has exposed a bit of the Deep State. 🍿anyone

It does make me want to pop some popcorn. I just wonder if the JDs are really being opposed by the AIPAC. I can't help think that might be a ruse to help them get elected (paranoia strikes deep sometimes).

There are a few very recent articles (Times, Post, Fox) on this question of AIPAC/AOC, and this is a counter from the JPost.

Voyageur,

The JP article was an interesting denial.

ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ SAYS AIPAC IS COMING AFTER HER
Jerusalem Post said:
“It’s official,” says the fundraising appeal from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., the freshman lawmaker who has become the flagbearer for the Democratic Party’s restive progressive wing. “AIPAC is coming after Alexandria, Ilhan, and Rashida.”

Not only is it not official, it’s not true.

The release starts by quoting an “AIPAC activist” threatening the political careers of Ocasio-Cortez and her first-year Democratic colleagues, Reps. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota.

The quote, saying they are “three people who, in my opinion, will not be around in several years,” was taken from a recent New York Times article exploring the political clout of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

Except the “AIPAC activist” quoted, Stephen Fiske of Florida, confirmed to me that he has not been associated with the pro-Israel lobbying group for several years. The hardball he counsels in dealing with those who depart from centrist pro-Israel orthodoxies is not the style of the lobby, which discourages alienating safe incumbents.

The error is emblematic of the misconceptions that first helped spur the controversy leading up to Ocasio-Cortez’s fundraising pitch, which was posted Thursday on Twitter by Guardian reporter Ben Jacobs.

So is AIPAC really coming after AOC...munching popcorn...🍿

On that note, consider the "projected" circumstances - a Russian Economic Development Minister recently stated during a meeting at Kommersant’s Academy of Journalism ...

angelburst29,

Considering the AOC/AIPAC factors the Russian Kommersant's Academy of Journalism statements sound like some of our think-tank projections in the U.S..

"The likely political scenario in America is that Trump will be re-elected for a second term and later he will be replaced by a Democrat, who will be an extreme leftist. I see this as the most probable scenario. Otherwise, a left-wing Democrat could emerge now if America comes up against an economic crisis earlier than by the next election," he noted.

I wonder if they know something/somethings we don't know or have access to?:huh::-/
 
Oooooh, that's a really interesting question! The successful Justice Dems (Omar, Khalek) have have been talking smack about Israel and AIPAC, at least so far. Even if they've had to walk back some of their statements, those statements are still out there.

If the JDs keep fielding folks like them how will AIPAC respond? A quiet backroom strong-arm? Open war? I'd prefer the latter, as it would bring them out into the open, the way Trump has exposed a bit of the Deep State. 🍿anyone?

Herondancer, what do you think of this? Promise not to "giggle"? :referee::ohboy:

Progressive advocacy group MoveOn called on 2020 presidential candidates to skip the American Israel Public Affairs Committee’s (AIPAC) annual policy conference in Washington next week.

Thu Mar 21, 2019 - Progressive Group MoveOn Asks 2020 Dems to Skip AIPAC

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Progressive Group MoveOn Asks 2020 Dems to Skip AIPAC


The group in a press release Wednesday cited a survey of members who said they did not think candidates should attend the pro-Israel lobbying group's conference, The Hill reported.

MoveOn announced that 74 percent of those surveyed agree or strongly agree with the statement that “any progressive vying to be the Democratic nominee for President should skip the AIPAC conference”.

“This survey is less of a formal vote and more of a gut check on what MoveOn members think,” Iram Ali, MoveOn's campaign director, stated.

“This should also give a clear insight to 2020 candidates on where their base stands instead of prioritizing lobbying groups and policy people who rarely step outside of D.C.,” Ali added.

The group highlighted AIPAC’s support for issues with which Democrats have disagreed, including its opposition to the Barack Obama-era Iran nuclear deal.

Ali, in an interview with CNN, accused AIPAC of becoming "slightly an arm of the Republican Party" by refusing to condemn anti-Semitic statements by Republicans.

“AIPAC has been known to peddle anti-Muslim and anti-Arab rhetoric while giving platforms to Islamaphobes,” Ali told the outlet.

The call comes shortly after Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) faced bipartisan backlash for her comments criticizing AIPAC’s influence in Washington, which some suggested were anti-Semitic.
 
Yeah, I saw that on SOTT today. Bizarre. Soros, who funds MoveOn, seems to have been gunning for AIPAC for a while now. The editors referenced this article from 2007:

Obama rebuffs Soros after he calls for "liberation" from pro-Israel lobby

Apparently he's not anti-Jewish per se, just anti-AIPAC. For example, he's put some big money into J Street.
Tax forms obtained by The Washington Times reveal that Mr. Soros and his two children, Jonathan and Andrea Soros, contributed a total $245,000 to J Street from one Manhattan address in New York during the fiscal year from July 1, 2008 to June 30, 2009.

He seems to view AIPAC as one more obstacle to his borderless world. This was written in 2007:
I am not sufficiently engaged in Jewish affairs to be involved in the reform of AIPAC; but I must speak out in favor of the critical process that is at the heart of our open society. I believe that a much-needed self-examination of American policy in the Middle East has started in this country; but it can’t make much headway as long as AIPAC retains powerful influence in both the Democratic and Republican parties. Some leaders of the Democratic Party have promised to bring about a change of direction but they cannot deliver on that promise until they are able to resist the dictates of AIPAC. Palestine is a place of critical importance where positive change is still possible. Iraq is largely beyond our control; but if we succeeded in settling the Palestinian problem we would be in a much better position to engage in negotiations with Iran and extricate ourselves from Iraq. The need for a peace settlement in Palestine is greater than ever. Both for the sake of Israel and the United States, it is highly desirable that the Saudi peace initiative should succeed; but AIPAC stands in the way. It continues to oppose dealing with a Palestinian government that includes Hamas.

What sort of long game is he playing?
 
I have to admit, that it's quite fun to watch all these MSM talking heads being completely discombobulated now that Muellers report is proven to be a complete nothing burger. :lol:

Here's one example. It's impossible to have the strength to watch the whole thing, but just look and hear how this 'news anchor' is stumbling with his words as he can't believe what's happened. It's almost like he is crying (just like Rachel Maddow in her most recent ramble).

 

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