Trump era: Fascist dawn, or road to liberation?

Didn't they understand, that by bringing up the subject, millions of new people, not familiar with the fact, will want to check out the tweet and/or who the whistleblower is?

No because they live in a wealthy liberal echo chamber where TDS is everywhere. They have no understanding what the life of an average American is like.
 
What does a country that profits from it's military and war do when confronted by other countries opposing it's hegemony (like Russia and China)? Bring the troops home and then what? Maybe...

Trump further expressed his administration’s “achievements” like putting military equipment into the hands of U.S. police officers, as Activist Post reported.

Peace is hell for some.

Session 4 December 1999:
Q: Why are they training so many pilots? What are they preparing for?

A: Military budgets must be justified, you know. Review "Military-Industrial Complex 101."

Q: So, this is just training flight, justification of budget, and nothing more than that?

A: Well, we would not say "not anything more to it than that," but, when you say "M-IC," you have said a lot!

Q: Are you implying that there is a build-up of the Military-Industrial Complex for a reason?

A: To preserve status quo during "peacetime." This peace business is not very profitable, you know.

Q: Does that suggest that they are building up to set off a war so they can make more money?

A: Maybe if indeed, and if the populous can be hoodwinked. But, fortunately, the public is less hoodwinkable. Maybe the real enemy is "out there, " rather than "over there." Was it not always?

Q: Does any of this increased aircraft activity have anything to do with the increased awareness and activities of aliens in and around our planet?

A: As always. But, this awareness is factionalized and compartmentalized.

When some compartments see more "out there" and re-group it could be the result of anything from comets, asteroids, aliens or solar minimum effects I would think.
 
Added: that Trump Jr. also managed to throw in the things about Behar's 'blackface' and Whoopi's "not rape-rape" in the midst of all the vultures shouting was a nice bonus!

I watched a few short clips, as that's all I could take. Not only was he cool and collected in the middle of that harpy-fest, he managed to get some real applause, to the point where one of them scolded the crowd saying, "This is not a 'maga rally'!" Too funny. Don Jr. seems to be a more polished chip off the old block.
 
Amazing Polly posted this speech by Attorney General Barr to members of his faith at Notre Dame. I agree with Polly that it is an important comment and opinion by Barr on American society today.

@Ruth I agree too that this may be an important good look at Attorney General Barr's assessment of American society today. I think my opinion of him is much more positive after listening to this speech.
 
A: How do you propose that they could make it possible to destroy Christianity?

Would you recognize a wolf (Barr) in sheep's clothing (professed Catholic or actual Dominionist) if you saw one?

There have been multiple discussions regarding the 'Christian' religious movements in this country whose ultimate goals serve the NWO agenda - the Israel-supporting evangelical fundamentalists/Dominionists as well as the Catholic religion which surely can no longer be considered a true Christian faith as their lurid secrets/sex crimes continue to come to light and are finally being prosecuted.

The Notre Dame William Barr speech was brought up in the Session 18 May 2019 thread on Oct. 23 - see post #495 that has the speech quoted. Please read my posts #523 and #525 and then the article below:

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THE SURGE: U.S. DOJ AND TRUMP TO FURTHER MILITARIZE POLICE -- $600 BILLION IN EQUIPMENT

The above should strike terror into the hearts of any liberty-loving citizen. I posted this article at #2,356 in this thread.

From Barr's speech:
Instead, social order must flow up from the people themselves – freely obeying the dictates of inwardly-possessed and commonly-shared moral values. And to control willful human beings, with an infinite capacity to rationalize, those moral values must rest on authority independent of men’s will – they must flow from a transcendent Supreme Being.

In short, in the Framers’ view, free government was only suitable and sustainable for a religious people – a people who recognized that there was a transcendent moral order antecedent to both the state and man-made law and who had the discipline to control themselves according to those enduring principles.

As John Adams put it, “We have no government armed with the power which is capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.”
[...]
First, it gives us the right rules to live by.
The Founding generation were Christians. They believed that the Judeo-Christian moral system corresponds to the true nature of man. Those moral precepts start with the two great commandments – to Love God with your whole heart, soul, and mind; and to Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself.
[...]
Modern secularists dismiss this idea of morality as other-worldly superstition imposed by a kill-joy clergy. In fact, Judeo-Christian moral standards are the ultimate utilitarian rules for human conduct.

"As men influenced by the Enlightenment, many of America's Founding Fathers were deists. Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Paine were prominent American deists." From wiki:
Deism (derived from Latin "deus" meaning "god") is the philosophical position that rejects revelation as a source of religious knowledge and asserts that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to establish the existence of a Supreme Being or creator of the universe.[3][4][5]

At least as far back as Thomas Aquinas, Christian thought has recognized two sources of knowledge of God: revelation and "natural reason". The study of the truths revealed by reason is called natural theology. During the Age of Enlightenment, especially in Britain and France, philosophers began to reject revelation as a source of knowledge and to appeal only to truths that they felt could be established by reason alone. Such philosophers were called "deists" and the philosophical position that they advocated is called "deism"

Is it possible for citizens to have genuine, moral community values without being tied to a religious affiliation? I posted in regards to community values in the Is gender a social construct thread, post #451. The takeaway:

Values create a community where we agree about what matters

The lesson from those times is that community and culture are built around what we have in common, and it’s what we have in common that drives our core values.


Considering that the American Empire, its intelligence apparatus, and its subjugation to Israel/Zionism has been responsible for the moral takedown of America, and that Barr himself has been and continues to be a prominent player, I can only conclude that his remarks are just more of the same evil machinations that have been employed time and time again. Ultimately a Divide and Conquer wedge to convince people that 'the other' is a threat to all that's held dear by those with higher, religiously endowed moral standards. And can anyone here still consider Judeo-Christian a valid construct after all Laura has revealed regarding that subject?

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

I posted this in the Epstein thread and I urge everyone to read it either as a refresher or a first-time exposure: American Empire Exposed


The controllers of our country and world are the most evil persons imaginable and are committing the most heinous crimes against children and humanity in general. And it has been going on for decades, completely covered up, sanctioned and financed by illegal activites of every sort (drugs/arms/organ trafficking/etc.) as well as taxpayers' money.

William Barr is former CIA. He was instrumental in protecting both Reagan and George H. W. Bush from prosecution or incriminating testimony.

As the abortion issue continues to be used as a favorite D & C propaganda weapon, it never ceases to amaze me as to the outrage people express about its availability (murdering the unborn/killing babies), and yet these same people are rabid flag wavers when it comes to us bombing the hell out of Middle Eastern countries, murdering countless children/pregnant women, especially at weddings and funerals! I honestly cannot stomach the gigantic hypocrisy of this whole mad manipulation of public opinion!

Of course, the latest is everyone's right not to violate their religious conscience/convictions when it comes to doing the job they agreed to do when they accepted employment!

Barr's speech is just a moralistic screed devised to pull the wool over the eyes of a dumbed-down, gullible public who refuse to see the forest for the trees. Our CIA controllers, our corrupt politicians, and our military leaders are not moral people of good conscience. The god they worship is the anti-Christ! Frankly, I'm surprised they can get anything done since they are the very top viewers of porn!
Defense Department computers are among the top distributors of child pornography. An untold number of Department of Defense (DOD) employees and contractors have subscriptions to child pornography websites, and the problem is apparently so pervasive it requires new technical solutions to address it.

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Barr's speech is just a moralistic screed devised to pull the wool over the eyes of a dumbed-down, gullible public who refuse to see the forest for the trees. Our CIA controllers, our corrupt politicians, and our military leaders are not moral people of good conscience.

@JEEP ,

You are probably right about Barr. The speech was so good I was beginning to even have positive thoughts about him. They say a leopard can't change it's spots and as you have said before:

By their fruits ye shall know them.

With all this suffering it reminds me of what the Cs said about this crazy chaos:

Session 5 August 2017:
Q: (Galatea) It could also be related to the shooters, the Florida face eater man.

(Data) These sensations are certainly unpleasant.

(L) No kidding!

(Data) Are people ever going to ask for help, or seek out help from someone who knows how to help them?

A: Eventually the suffering will separate the wheat from the chaff.
 
If someone wants and have the stomach to watch the impeachment hearing that starts in 10min, here are a few links for the live stream:


I suspect this is going to be a total farce and a circus, just like the previous similar events. And the MSM will loudly declare how utterly damaging this first day of hearings are for Trump, no matter what is said.
 
I suspect this is going to be a total farce and a circus, just like the previous similar events. And the MSM will loudly declare how utterly damaging this first day of hearings are for Trump, no matter what is said.

Well, so far, the reaction from the MSM as a whole today seems a bit cowed to me. They are still trying to highlight various points, but it's pretty 'low energy'. In the hearing itself, I think Jim Jordan annihilated the impeachment agenda and the 'star witness' Ambassador Taylor, who incidentally hasn't witnessed anything at all:

 
Queuing up the 25th Amendment ploy:
'Mental instablity': Psychiatrists who called Trump dangerous want to testify on impeachment

A group of medical experts who claim that President Trump's mental health makes him dangerous and unfit for office is seeking to testify during House impeachment proceedings.

The group, comprising four psychiatrists, a clinical neuropsychologist, a neurologist, and an internist, are planning to announce their availability next week to members of Congress and the media. They'll also be available to consult privately with members of Congress, with 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, or with members of Trump's cabinet.

Dr. Bandy Lee, a Yale School of Medicine psychiatrist, announced the group's plans to the Washington Examiner on Friday.

Read more/video:
All for naught?
The Senate Has a Nuclear Option on Impeachment — They Can Refuse to Take it Up

It’s assumed at this point that the impeachment of President Donald Trump is a fait accompli.

No matter what kind of exculpatory evidence might come out between now and the end of the impeachment inquiry, po-faced Democrats will all vote to deliver articles of impeachment to the Senate where, it’s assumed, a trial designed as an elaborate campaign advertisement will ensue.

However, this is all predicated on an assumption that may not actually come to pass. There’s a nuclear option that hasn’t yet been considered: What if there isn’t any trial?

That sounds counterintuitive. After all, if there’s an impeachment, there’s got to be a trial, right? Well, not exactly. Generally speaking, if you’re following the established procedure, that’s what happens.

But here’s the thing: None of this has followed the established procedure.

The Democrats’ kangaroo court has been an insult to both courts and kangaroos. Republicans’ ability to ask questions was limited and they lacked subpoena power. The hearings were held behind closed doors and selective leaks were designed to give the impression that the evidence being given was far more damning than it actually was.

Now we have open hearings in the House, except the primary difference is that the thumbs are on the scales of justice publicly as opposed to privately. And you know what? Nobody in the media seems to particularly care.

So, about that nuclear option. If the de facto indictment is a joke, why even bother with a trial?

But the Senate has to take it up if the House chooses to impeach, right? Well, that’s not what the Constitution says.

Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution says, “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.” Notice, however, it says nothing the Senate having to take up impeachment. From what we can infer, that’s at the sole discretion of the upper chamber.

That’s apparently the opinion of former acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker, who doesn’t think the Senate needs to take the issue up even if the House decides to impeach the president.

“Not only is it dead on arrival, there’s a risk that the Senate doesn’t even take it up as it is a completely partisan exercise where [there are] only Democrat witnesses, only Democrats’ votes, and Republicans’ rights to due process and fairness are not honored,” Whitaker told Fox News on Monday.

Whitaker made the remarks in response to South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham’s assertion that impeachment was “dead on arrival” if the original whistleblower didn’t testify.

“It’s impossible to bring this case forward in my view fairly without us knowing who the whistleblower is and having a chance to cross-examine them,” Graham, the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, said on “Fox News Sunday,” according to the Washington Times.

As part of the rules for the public portion impeachment inquiry, Rep. Adam Schiff — the California Democrat who’s been the point man for the left on the proceedings — wrote in a letter to Rep. Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, that allowing the GOP to call the whistleblower would put his “personal safety at grave risk,” according to The Daily Caller.

The whistleblower’s background has been a subject of much contention; not only is he alleged to have a close working relationship with Joe Biden but reports have also surfaced that he had close ties with Democratic National Committee members involved in digging up dirt on possible connections between Donald Trump and Russia.

Democrats, meanwhile, have called those reports unfounded and poorly sourced. But that’s an argument that can easily be made about the whole impeachment effort, which seems to be made up of a combination of hearsay “evidence” and Democratic hostility toward the Trump White House that goes back to even before the president was inaugurated.

So, does the case go to the Senate?

Whitaker makes a decent point: If this is a joke impeachment, why even give it the time of day? Treat the case with the same seriousness that the Democrats are doing.

This impeachment charade is nothing more than a ploy aimed at slanting the 2020 election. It should be treated as such.

 
If someone wants and have the stomach to watch the impeachment hearing that starts in 10min, here are a few links for the live stream:
I did watch a chunk of it, and from what I saw, the cornerstone, the crux of the proceedings for impeachment, is second or third hand hearsay that people heard or thought they heard. And that is, aid money to Ukraine, in return for investigations into corruption. (Mostly involving Hunter Biden, I think, but it was only talked about as investigations in the part that I heard).

None of the official transcripts, or any other official correspondences said anything of a quid pro quo, and in fact, the aid, was released or given shortly afterward, with nothing offered or requested in return.

I saw only two witnesses, the Ambassador to Ukraine, and his assistant. Maybe more will come out later... but not much to see so far.

I skipped over a lot of Mr Schift, as I wanted to see what the defense council was presenting...
 
I skipped over a lot of Mr Schift, as I wanted to see what the defense council was presenting...

@Hello H2O ,

I think you might have missed some of the best parts...maybe it's just me but I could almost imagine a lizard tongue darting out of Adam Schiff's mouth to lick lips after he grinned. :-P

I thought the Republicans made them sweat big time.
 
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