Trump era: Fascist dawn, or road to liberation?

When I read this headline, my first thought was that "Trump was walking into three Lion Den's"?

Trump to visit Israel, Saudi Arabia, Vatican in first foreign trip
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/331911-trump-to-visit-israel-saudi-arabia-vatican-in-first-foreign-trip

President Trump announced Thursday he will visit Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Vatican during his first foreign trip as president later this month.

Trump and his aides said the decision to visit the centers of three of the world’s major faiths is meant to rally allies and partners in the fight against shared security threats in the Middle East.

Those stops will come before previously scheduled appearances at a NATO summit in Brussels on May 25 and a meeting of the Group of Seven major industrialized countries in Sicily on May 26-27.

The president said he will begin his trip in Saudi Arabia, where he will convene a “historic gathering” of “leaders from all across the Muslim world” to form a new push to combat terrorism and Islamic radicalism and confront Iran.

“We will begin to construct a new foundation of cooperation and support with our Muslim allies to combat extremism, and terrorism and violence and to embrace a more just and hopeful future for Muslims in their countries,” he said at the White House.

The stakes are always high for presidents during their first trips abroad, but Trump will face added pressure as a leader who has never before held elected office.

Trump faces the challenge of bolstering partnerships that he questioned during the 2016 campaign.

The president recently backed off his criticism that the NATO alliance is “obsolete,” comments that rattled traditional U.S. allies.

Some Arab allies were put off by Trump’s ban on travelers from several predominantly Muslim countries, which was blocked by the courts, as well as his inflammatory comments about Islam.

Trump will get an audience in Rome with Pope Francis, who has offered veiled criticism of the president’s stances on immigration and refugees.

Now, Trump is seeking their cooperation to accomplish his agenda overseas.

Speaking to reporters to preview the trip, a senior administration official said Trump is seeking to demonstrate that “that America first is fully compatible with American leadership in the world.”

“What this trip will also do is it will reverse what had been a trend of America’s disengagement from the world and some of its biggest problems,” the official added, saying that that stance “has aided and abetted those who were really fomenting violence and perpetuating human suffering across the Middle East.”

Another official said it was symbolically important for Trump to begin his trip in Saudi Arabia because “people have tried to portray the president in a certain way.”

“I think what he wants to do is solve the same problem that leaders in the Islamic world want to do,” he said.

The gathering in Saudi Arabia will also include leaders of Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, as well as other nations.

Trump’s visit to Israel is a chance to show progress on his pledge to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The president’s trip follows separate meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas at the White House.

Details of the visit, however, remain up in the air. Officials would not say whether Trump would visit Palestinian territories or reveal the exact dates of his stops.
 
voyageur said:
Since you have some oil news here, this got me looking further into this - it is a crazy business; petrodollars and economic engines, and it is a very real economic game with horrible consistences for many as has been seen.

angelburst29 said:
OPEC deal backfires: Saudis lose market share to Iran, Iraq [/b]
https://www.rt.com/business/386799-saudis-lose-market-share-iran/

Pipeline Companies Push Back Against Trump’s ‘Buy American’ Rule
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-01/pipeline-companies-push-back-against-trump-s-buy-american-rule
[...]
Interesting all this news (and much more in the world) on oil. And I profess to be at a loss as to what is going on most of the time other than shift dominance and acquisitions (purchase or by war) and then the means of shipment (trains, boats and pipelines).

Interesting also that the Saudis acquired the remaining 50% stake from Royal Dutch Shell - a question might be why would RDS sell? Especially with these predictions being made for 2017. Other than Iraq and Iran mentioned, there is also mention of Libya spinning up restarts (well known what happened in Libya - who really controls it now?), Canadian drilling growing and U.S. staying the course and expanding. Previously, the Arctic drilling program pledged requires a very high price for oil to be reached before it would even be considered (and they are studying coastal shelf lease programs) as does all that tar-sand oil in Alberta need some petrodollar growth. So what is going on? The Crown Jewel U.S. efinery can process 600,000 b/d yet they need delivered oil - from where? Northern pipelines can deliver copious amounts of oil - in the near future.

One person to know is T-Rex, an old blue-eyed sheik of the industry, among others. Having a look at one of the go-to oil sites and the articles there for just five days might reveal a few things or not - have a look at the titles (bold mine) - each title is a link that can be checked out independently:

Wold Oil - _http://www.worldoil.com/news?page=1

News ///
5/2/2017 Total brings Badamyar gas project on stream in Myanmar
5/2/2017 Xvision software launches cloud-based technology for offshore field development
5/2/2017 Linn Energy announces $581.5 million sale of western Wyoming assets
5/2/2017 Total signs agreements to explore Senegal's deepwater potential
5/2/2017 Oil falls as expected U.S. fuel-supply gain counters crude drop
5/2/2017 BP expands digital rocks technology
5/2/2017 Pipeline companies push back on Trump's `Buy American' rule {heavily invested in by the banks}
5/2/2017 Minister sees `glaring' problems in South African oil stock sale
5/2/2017 BP debt rises again as Gulf oil spill payouts soak up profit
5/2/2017 UAE minister sees `logic' in oil-cuts extension beyond June
5/2/2017 North America's busiest oil dealmaker turns focus to production
5/2/2017 Elliott said to meet BHP shareholders as fund urges overhaul
5/2/2017 Trump's U.S. looks past energy independence, to global dominance
5/2/2017 Probe extends downhole conveyance tool range
5/2/2017 Emerson launches new salinity system for increased flow assurance, to maximize oil & gas production
5/2/2017 Norway announces licensing round for mature areas on NCS
5/2/2017 Lundin Petroleum releases 2016 sustainability report
5/2/2017 Mexico stays the course on the opening of its hydrocarbon sector
5/1/2017 At OTC 2017, Secretary Zinke signs orders implementing new offshore energy strategy
5/1/2017 Expro showcases a range of new technology solutions at OTC 2017
5/1/2017 Baker Hughes introduces multi-stage fracturing service for deep water
5/1/2017 Weatherford, US Synthetic launch new deepwater drilling reamer at OTC 2017
5/1/2017 OPEC may need to extend production cuts to end of next year
5/1/2017 Oil falls as U.S. drillers boost rigs, Libya expands output

{worth noting}
Libya’s output rose to more than 700,000 bpd as the OPEC member’s biggest oil field and another deposit in its western region resumed pumping after a halt.[...] “The return of Libyan supply makes the job of OPEC more challenging,” Giovanni Staunovo, a Zurich-based commodities analyst for UBS Group AG, said by email. “However, renewed supply disruption in Libya remains possible.”

5/1/2017 Oil price optimism wears off as Texas wildcatters drill on
5/1/2017 Aramco cuts Asia oil pricing as Saudis seen losing market share
5/1/2017 Libya oil output rebounds as Sharara, Feel fields restarted
5/1/2017 UAE's Adnoc will cut oil sales to buyers by 10% in June
5/1/2017 Gulf Publishing Company acquires 109-year-old Oildom Publishing
4/28/2017 PSAC raises Canadian drilling forecast by more than 2,500 wells for 2017
4/28/2017 New API safety standards developed to enhance O&G industry equipment, operations

That is five days of oil news and only a small fraction of what is going on. There are production cuts, new starts, deep-water licenses and programs, Arctic assessments by Norway, Russia (Canada says it is out) and the U.S., pipelines (and what will happen with pipelines in the Middle East and into Europe - both oil and gas?), South America, China etc.

I don't know what to say or what will happen, yet it feels like another shift is going to play out in the Middle East. Why RDS sold its stake is a further question (liquidity?). Probably paying attention to T-Rex and the other players to see what there intentions are may reveal more. Russia is another question as are the demands from Asia and where they will inevitably get their supply from. Does the reference "5/2/2017 Trump's U.S. looks past energy independence, to global dominance" contain something that will take on further meaning?

Last reference: Oil supermajors dig out of doldrums as cash poised to surge _http://www.worldoil.com/news/2017/4/26/oil-supermajors-dig-out-of-doldrums-as-cash-poised-to-surge
[...] [...] [...]

Very impressive list of articles there, Voyageur! I don't know that much about the oil and gas business but have noticed an up-tick in media coverage on oil and gas prices, pipelines and deals going on with different Government bodies and Corporations since Trump got sworn in. Not sure - what's going on?

I imagine, it has something to do with Trump trying to put things in motion, to keep the U.S. economy from going - bust? A few days ago, the Government was facing a shut down and they whipped a few things together, to keep it going until September. I get the impression, Obama set up some booby traps for Trump - just to watch him fall on his face? Now, Trump is trying to prop up the dollar - before everything flat lines including the Stock Market?

We used to be a Nation that had a high manufacturing base - before "the idiots-in-charge" decided to send the jobs and equipment over sea's. I guess, they figured, since the men could no longer find jobs, they would fill the ranks of the arm services - so they could ship them over sea's, too? Kind of - took care of the Military's problem "of occupying 800 bases" - over there?

The real problem is, few stop to realize, that a high percentage of our "able bodied men" have been stripped from our population, creating a imbalance ratio. We are a weaker and more vulnerable Nation, then we realize? If the Stock Market were to crash and the dollar flat lines, the first to feel the economic impact would be the woman and children. Where are the Father's and Husband's?

All this talk of gas and oil pipelines might help our Nation in the long run but we also need to reduce our military spending and involvement in other countries. And ... we need to bring a good portion of our Arm Forces back home.

Seems, the Pentagon and the DOD also have their hands in the oil and gas dealings?

US military warns against eastern Gulf leasing
http://www.argusmedia.com/news/article/?id=1452583

Washington, 2 May, 2017 - The US Defense Department wants to prolong a drilling ban in the eastern part of the US Gulf of Mexico, an area the oil industry is lobbying President Donald Trump's administration to open for leasing.

The area is estimated to contain 3.6bn bl of technically recoverable oil and 11.5 Tcf of natural gas but is largely off-limits to drilling until 2022. Existing infrastructure like pipelines from development elsewhere in the Gulf makes the region particularly attractive to oil and gas producers, but military officials worry that drilling and production activity could impede use of the area for training and testing.

Trump opened the possibility of drilling in the region by signing a 28 April order directing the US Interior Department to consider making the Arctic and the Atlantic available for leasing. But the order does not specifically seek leasing in the eastern Gulf, and the Pentagon created additional hurdles last week by saying it supported extending the existing leasing moratorium beyond 2022.

"The Department of Defense cannot overstate the vital importance of maintaining this moratorium," acting under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness Anthony Kurta said in a 26 April letter to representative Matt Gaetz (R-Florida).

Oil industry groups say the eastern Gulf is critical to develop and the fastest way to boost production. "The eastern Gulf is the region that makes the most sense because it is close to existing infrastructure," American Petroleum Institute upstream director Erik Milito said yesterday.

The offshore industry has experience working alongside the military, Milito said. The US Congress enacted the existing moratorium in 2006, prohibiting leasing within 125 miles of Florida and giving the Defense Department power to limit leasing in the area for military reasons.

Democratic lawmakers support extending the leasing moratorium. US senator Ben Nelson (D-Florida) introduced a bill earlier this year that would prolong the moratorium until 2027. And Florida's tourism and fishing industries have fought nearby drilling because of concerns about the effects of an oil spill and increased industrialization of the coasts.

US interior secretary Ryan Zinke expects it will take two years to replace or revise an existing five-year offshore leasing plan. Zinke says the agency will take into consideration the views of nearby communities and other stakeholders before opening new areas for leasing.

The Defense Department did not respond for comment.


According to Statistics Canada report, Canada's annual merchandise trade deficit with other nations reached a record $26 billion in 2016 driven by a decline in energy product imports and exports.

Declining Energy Trade Drives Canada’s Record Deficit in 2016
https://sputniknews.com/world/201705041053279775-energy-canada-deficit/

Canada's annual merchandise trade deficit with other nations reached a record $26 billion in 2016 driven by a decline in energy product imports and exports, Statistics Canada said in a report on Thursday.

"The value of Canada's annual exports decreased 0.7 percent to $521.3 billion in 2016 while imports edged down 0.1 percent to $547.3 billion," the report stated. "Consequently, Canada's annual merchandise trade deficit with the world widened from $23.0 billion in 2015 to a record $26.0 billion in 2016."

The decline in exports was led by falling energy products: crude oil and crude bitumen exports fell 14.2 percent to $48.2 billion while annual volumes of both increased 2.7 percent. Total exports excluding energy products increased 1.9 percent.

Energy products also led a decline in imports, which fell 10.8 percent to $27.5 billion, the lowest value since 2004. The report noted that the import loss reflected a 15.8 percent decline in energy product prices.


The US Senate passed a $1.1 trillion spending bill on Thursday that will fund the government through September, which is the remainder of the 2017 fiscal year.

US Senate Passes $1.1Trln Omnibus Spending Bill to Fund Gov't Through September
https://sputniknews.com/us/201705041053290009-us-senate-passes-spending-bill-government/

The final vote was 79 to 18. The bill passed now goes to President Donald Trump for his signature.

The US House of Representatives unanimously passed a short-term funding to prevent a government shutdown on April 28.

Without a deal, the current funding for US government agencies and departments would have run out at midnight last Friday.


The US Air Force sought a full $1.35 billion to continue research and development efforts for the B-21, formerly known as the Long Range Strike Bomber. But to no avail: the US Congress’ omnibus spending bill, worth almost $1.2 trillion, slashed funding for the B-21 program down to $1.33 billion, while creating new measures intended to prevent program costs from spiraling out of control.

Congress Slashes $20M From Pentagon’s Secret B-21 Project
https://sputniknews.com/military/201705051053293261-congress-slashes-20m-pentagon-b21/

This may ring a bell with those who have followed the living “scandal and tragedy” that is the F-35 program; the cost growth of the USS Gerald Ford, whose final price amounts to two times North Korea’s annual military budget; and the ultra-macho King Stallion helicopter program, which costs more per unit than an F-35A.

The extra measures include labelling the B-21 program a “congressional special interest item,” which gives lawmakers greater authority over appropriating funds for the bomber’s development. Further, the Defense Department inspector general has been tasked with conducting a review of the program.

The US has refused to disclose the total contract value for the B-21, conveniently placing it under “the all-menacing specter of security,” FoxTrot Alpha reported. “I don’t want to give our enemies information by which they can figure out” the materials and size of the plane,” said Senator Bill Nelson of Florida, defending the program’s secrecy.

“If we don’t know what it costs, there’s nothing stopping it from becoming an expensive mess,” the FoxTrot Alpha report noted.

The Pentagon estimates that the per-unit cost will tally about $550 million, according to Defense News.
 
Hillary Clinton, Group Onward Together,” aimed entirely at taking out President Donald Trump’s policies and bringing down the Republican agenda.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/hillary-clinton-group-onward-together-aimed-entirely-at-taking-out-president-donald-trumps-policies-and-bringing-down-the-republican-agenda/

Hillary Clinton, after a six-month break from public life, is emerging to head up a resistance group, “Onward Together,” aimed entirely at taking out President Donald Trump’s policies and bringing down the Republican agenda.

It smells like a watchdogger’s dream. Can you say “Clinton Foundation, deja vu?”

Clinton’s calling it a political fundraising outlet. Need more be said? The Clinton Foundation was a fundraising operation as well — supposedly, to fund programs that “improve people’s lives around the world,” as the site states.

But as oftentimes happens when Clintons meet money, good intentions ran awry. As the Observer reported back in 2016, “more than half of those who received a person meeting with Hillary Clinton while she was the secretary of state had also donated to the Foundation.” Curious connection, yes?


Activists of “Black Lives Matter” said the movement has changed its strategy, one that more focused on policy than protests, under President Donald Trump.

Black Lives Matter Changes Tactics from Street Protests to Policy in Trump Era
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960217001348

In recent years, after controversial police confrontations with and killings of Black Americans, outraged people often took the streets under the “Black Lives Matter” banner. So far in 2017, police have shot and killed at least 23 unarmed people, higher than the rate in 2016, but massive protests are no longer can be found, TeleSur reported.

“What people are seeing is that there are less demonstrations,” Alicia Garza, co-founder of Black Lives Matter, told the Washington Post. “A lot of that is that people are channeling their energy into organizing locally, recognizing that in Trump’s America, our communities are under direct attack.”

In fact, not just the Black community, other minority groups in the US are also under political threats after Trump’s victory in November last year, such as immigrants, Muslims and women.

Leaders in the Black Lives Matter movement said they now focus on supporting these other groups and gaining electoral power to fight against the administration.

Garza herself had helped develop the Women’s March political platform and is an organizer for the National Domestic Worker’s Alliance, a labor organization.

“We are also doing a lot of work to build bridges between other movements and communities caught in the crosshairs of Trump’s agenda,” she said to the Post. “It’s a real opportunity for us to build a movement of movements. . . . Our futures are tied to each other.”

The Black Lives Matter network had joined "The Majority," a new coalition network of more than 50 organizations and groups working on social justice issues, including rights groups and fighting Islamophobia entities .

Besides strikes on the national level, Black Lives Matter also uses its local chapters to drive policy change. In Memphis and Atlanta, activists have focused on challenging the “money bail” system to help poor defendants.

In recent cases involving police and unarmed Black teens, local law enforcement has responded faster than in the past, also thanks to the impact of the movement in local communities.

Black Lives Matter’s transition from street protests to policy is not unusual, Stephen Zunes, a University of San Francisco professor who studies social movements, told the Washington Post. “That’s actually the way effective social movements often work or behave.”

It’s through such work that a movement’s priorities can become national standards, like mandatory use of officer body cameras, Zunes added.

This July marks the four-year anniversary of Black Lives Matter. Garza said recently during a speech that she wanted to make it clear that it is not just a movement for black lives, “but a movement to save all of our lives.”

“Black Lives Matter started as a love note to black people, but it is a demand and a call to action,” Garza said.
 
Just noticed this in the news:

FBI Director James Comey has been fired, according to the White House.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-director-james-comey-fired/story?id=47309009

"Today, President Donald J. Trump informed FBI Director James Comey that he has been terminated and removed from office," the White House statement reads.

"President Trump acted based on the clear recommendations of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions," the statement said.

Comey's termination was read to him over the phone while he was on bureau travel in Los Angeles, two FBI sources tell ABC News. He was there for a field office inspection and a diversity event.

FBI agents and staff are stunned by the news, sources told ABC News. Inside the FBI there are discussions about whether Comey will be able to address the bureau he led one final time, but it is not clear that will happen.

In addition to a statement, the White House released the letter that Trump wrote directly to Comey dismissing him at the recommendation of the attorney general and the deputy attorney general, "effective immediately."

"While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau," Trump wrote.

"It is essential that we find new leadership for the FBI that restores public trust and confidence in its vital law enforcement mission," Trump's letter states.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions' letter to the president was also released, wherein he states that he has "concluded that a fresh start is needed at the leadership of the FBI."
 
angelburst29 said:
Just noticed this in the news:

FBI Director James Comey has been fired, according to the White House.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-director-james-comey-fired/story?id=47309009...

Interesting. I turned on CNN after hearing about the firing. The talking heads were going ballistic, saying Trump did this to stop the investigations into the Trump Campaign/Russia connections which must be true. Lots of hand flailing and high-pitched accusations against that evil Trump for daring to fire the Director. I thought Comey was the main cause of Killary's pain according to past reports. To listen to the newsies now, Comey is a saint being burnt at the stake. I'd laugh if it weren't for the fact that most of my family believes the MSM's lies that Putin aligned with Trump and caused Hillary to lose and will probably buy into the most current hysteria.

Didn't Bill Clinton fire a FBI director during his reign? Was there an outcry from the press like this? Not that I recall.

Good gawd, what a show!
 
NormaRegula said:
angelburst29 said:
Just noticed this in the news:

FBI Director James Comey has been fired, according to the White House.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-director-james-comey-fired/story?id=47309009...

Interesting. I turned on CNN after hearing about the firing. The talking heads were going ballistic, saying Trump did this to stop the investigations into the Trump Campaign/Russia connections which must be true. Lots of hand flailing and high-pitched accusations against that evil Trump for daring to fire the Director. I thought Comey was the main cause of Killary's pain according to past reports. To listen to the newsies now, Comey is a saint being burnt at the stake. I'd laugh if it weren't for the fact that most of my family believes the MSM's lies that Putin aligned with Trump and caused Hillary to lose and will probably buy into the most current hysteria.

Didn't Bill Clinton fire a FBI director during his reign? Was there an outcry from the press like this? Not that I recall.

Good gawd, what a show!

Ballistic - is an understatement!

I just finished reading another article, that goes into a lot more detail, of the circumstances surrounding Comey's firing. I never got fired from a job but through the years, I've heard of a few in the work place. Generally, the person was summoned to the PR dept. or directed to the Boss's Office. That didn't happen with Comey? Instead, he was notified by phone and he happened to be in Los Angels on business. But now, since he's been fired, there is a debate if he's allowed to travel on the FBI's jet - that got him there? I guess, you could say, He got dumped by Trump!

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/us-navy-ship-collides-south-korean-fishing-boat-47292229 (2nd article down)

Comey's termination was read to him over the phone while he was traveling for the bureau in Los Angeles, two FBI sources told ABC News. He was there for a field office inspection and a recruitment event this evening that's part of the FBI's efforts to boost diversity. A separate FBI official told ABC News that Comey first learned of his firing by seeing news reports on TV. The official said Comey was "surprised, really surprised" and was "caught flat-footed." It's unclear whether Comey will keep his speaking engagement in Los Angeles this evening, the official said.

FBI agents and staff are stunned by the news, FBI sources told ABC News. Inside the FBI, there are discussions about whether Comey will be able to address the bureau he led one final time, but it is not clear that will happen.

A separate FBI official said that because Comey has been terminated and is no longer an FBI employee, he may not be able to ride back to Washington, D.C., on the FBI jet.

In addition to a statement, the White House released the letter that Trump wrote directly to Comey dismissing him at the recommendation of the attorney general and the deputy attorney general, "effective immediately."

The acting FBI director is Andrew McCabe, who was Comey's deputy prior to his firing. The attorney general will likely name an interim FBI director in the coming days amid the search for a permanent replacement.
 
NormaRegula said:
angelburst29 said:
Just noticed this in the news:

FBI Director James Comey has been fired, according to the White House.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-director-james-comey-fired/story?id=47309009...

Interesting. I turned on CNN after hearing about the firing. The talking heads were going ballistic, saying Trump did this to stop the investigations into the Trump Campaign/Russia connections which must be true. Lots of hand flailing and high-pitched accusations against that evil Trump for daring to fire the Director. I thought Comey was the main cause of Killary's pain according to past reports. To listen to the newsies now, Comey is a saint being burnt at the stake. I'd laugh if it weren't for the fact that most of my family believes the MSM's lies that Putin aligned with Trump and caused Hillary to lose and will probably buy into the most current hysteria.

Didn't Bill Clinton fire a FBI director during his reign? Was there an outcry from the press like this? Not that I recall.

Good gawd, what a show!

Yes, according to that CNN video clip Bill Clinton fired FBI director William Sessions with the recommendation of Attorney General Janet Reno.

And in the CNN report it says:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/hillary-clinton-james-comey-fbi-fired/index.html said:
And in a reference to former President Richard Nixon's 1973 Saturday Night Massacre, where the President fired Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox and a series of other top Justice officials resigned, former Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta tweeted, "@realDonaldTrump Didn't you know you're supposed to wait til Saturday night to massacre people investigating you?"
Hillary Clinton's office did not immediately respond to a CNN request for comment on Comey's dismissal.

They are comparing the firing to Nixon's firing of Archibald Cox as the "Saturday night Massacre". Of course Podesta loves "massacres" of all kinds.
 
Interesting timing for firing Comey I think.

Meanwhile, while pondering the FBI director firing the schedule for a Russian connection in real time stays on schedule. The Russians are coming...

Lavrov to meet Trump in Washington, Russia’s Foreign Ministry confirms

The Russian Foreign Ministry has confirmed that Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov is set to meet with Donald Trump in Washington during his two-day trip to the US. Lavrov is also scheduled to hold talks with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and attend the Arctic Council meeting.
When asked by RIA for a comment about the possible meeting between Lavrov and Trump, the Ministry replied “yes” confirming the earlier statement by the White House.

The closed door meeting will take place at 10:30am in the Oval Office, according to the White House. Lavrov arrived in the US late Tuesday on a two-day working visit which include talks with US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, also scheduled for Wednesday.

The encounter will be one of the highest-level contacts between Trump and the Russian government since the Republican took office in January. Earlier, a senior US official speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters that the agenda of the Trump-Lavrov meeting would entail Syria as well as US-Russian relations and other global issues.

Tillerson visited Russia on April 12 and held talks with both Lavrov and President Vladimir Putin, with Trump saying the Secretary of State had done “tremendous work” in Moscow.

In late April, Putin noted that Trump had so far failed to make good on his campaign promises to seek better relations with Russia, adding that the level of trust between Moscow and Washington has even “degraded” since Obama left office.

READ MORE: Lavrov to meet Tillerson in Washington DC to talk Syria & Ukraine on May 10

However, last week, Trump and Putin spoke by phone where among other things they discussed the ongoing Syrian conflict.
 
goyacobol said:
Interesting timing for firing Comey I think.

Meanwhile, while pondering the FBI director firing the schedule for a Russian connection in real time stays on schedule. The Russians are coming...

Lavrov to meet Trump in Washington, Russia’s Foreign Ministry confirms

All I can say is "WOW"! Great news!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-host-lavrov-white-house-wednesday-031002964.html

Lavrov, who last set foot in Washington in August 2013, would be the highest ranking Russian official to meet with Trump since he took office.

After talks Wednesday the two diplomats will again meet Thursday in Fairbanks, Alaska for the Arctic Council meeting, an intergovernmental forum for cooperation on the environment, oil and mining, shipping, fisheries and tourism. It brings together the eight countries bordering the Arctic Ocean -- Canada, Russia, Norway, Denmark, the US, Iceland, Sweden and Finland.

Tillerson and Lavrov's meeting in Alaska comes 150 years after Washington purchased the US state from Moscow.
 
angelburst29 said:
goyacobol said:
Interesting timing for firing Comey I think.

Meanwhile, while pondering the FBI director firing the schedule for a Russian connection in real time stays on schedule. The Russians are coming...

Lavrov to meet Trump in Washington, Russia’s Foreign Ministry confirms

All I can say is "WOW"! Great news!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-host-lavrov-white-house-wednesday-031002964.html

Lavrov, who last set foot in Washington in August 2013, would be the highest ranking Russian official to meet with Trump since he took office.

After talks Wednesday the two diplomats will again meet Thursday in Fairbanks, Alaska for the Arctic Council meeting, an intergovernmental forum for cooperation on the environment, oil and mining, shipping, fisheries and tourism. It brings together the eight countries bordering the Arctic Ocean -- Canada, Russia, Norway, Denmark, the US, Iceland, Sweden and Finland.

Tillerson and Lavrov's meeting in Alaska comes 150 years after Washington purchased the US state from Moscow.

If there is any hope for Syria and the Ukraine I think the logical solution almost has to be through diplomacy and the Russians are being the sane logical humans in the game, thank the DCM.

If there is any possibility there is any positivity in Trump or those who want a real change then now is the time to maybe save face by negotiating.

I don't know how related the dots are but the Pizzagate thread has been discussing some of the videos posted by George Webb, a "talented and courageous journalist'.

Here is a recent post in the Pizzagate thread.

There is a video of his most recent comments on the impact of the firing of Comey which implies that many of the bigger players are probably a bit nervous now that Comey is not there to cover-up for them (like Hilary and Podesta). One Twitter comment was:

He called out Comey & McCabe months ago. Comey's been Hillary's lap dog for 30 years.
 
Though obviously written by an anti-Trumper (who's written many insightful articles over the years), I thought this was pretty interesting (but maybe that's because I am a retired psychologist ;) ).

The secret meaning of Donald Trump’s “Snake” poem
By Kevin Barrett
May 8, 2017

Why does Trump keep repeating the lyrics to that Al Wilson song about the ungrateful snake? You don’t have to be Sigmund Freud to suspect that something weird and powerfully unpleasant is going on in the deep dark depths of the President’s unconscious mind.

If you asked Trump, or the average Trump voter, he might tell you he loves “The Snake” because it sums up our predicament with respect to illegal aliens. If we let the damn Mexicans in, they’ll bite us! If we let the damn Muslims in, they’ll blow us up!

But there is a serious problem with that interpretation. Watch closely – if you can stand it – as Trump reads the poem. [video on linked page]

Trump obviously relishes the poem. In fact, he relishes it too much. It turns him on. Ponder the implications of that. At a deep, unconscious level, it’s obvious that Trump identifies with the snake. Not the woman. The snake!

The snake, Uncle Sigmund used to say as he chomped on a cigar, is the ultimate phallic symbol. That’s why, in the Garden of Eden, when the snake reared his ugly head, the primordial couple had to cover it up with fig leaves.

Al Wilson’s song is about a male psychopath who seduces and betrays a woman. Confronted, the psychopath excuses himself by saying “you knew I was a bad boy when you let me seduce you, so what did you expect?”

Here’s Barrett’s Trumpified revision of the poem:

On its way to vote one Tuesday
Down the path along side the lake
A tender hearted nation saw a slick, silver-tongued snake
His orange-red hair and skin had been all frosted with the dew
“Oh well,” the nation cried, “I’ll take you in and vote for you”
“Vote me in oh tender nation
Vote me in, for heaven’s sake
Vote me in oh tender nation, ” sighed the snake

The nation took that snake into its beautiful White House
And watched it curl up beside a book by Leo Strauss
And though he couldn’t read, he got the message pretty quick
And with sharpened fangs prepared to prove himself a toxic prick
“Vote me in, oh tender nation
Vote me in, for heaven’s sake
Vote me in oh tender nation, ” sighed the snake

The nation clutched him to her bosom, “You’re so beautiful,” she cried
“If Hillary had won, by now I’m sure we’d all have died”
Now she watched his pretty speeches and then she kissed and held him tight
But instead of saying thanks, that snake gave her a vicious bite
“Vote me in, oh tender nation
Vote me in, for heaven’s sake
Vote me in oh tender nation, ” sighed the snake

“I elected you,” cried that nation
“And you’ve bit me even, why?
You know your bite is poisonous and now I’m going to die”
“Oh shut up, silly nation,” said the reptile with a grin
“You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in
“Vote me in, oh tender nation
Vote me in, for heaven’s sake
Vote me in oh tender nation, ” sighed the snake

_http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/08/trumpsnake/
 
Not only is Sergey Lavrov at the White House but Henry Kissinger, as well.

President holds unannounced meeting with Henry Kissinger (Video)
https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2017/05/president-holds-unannounced-meeting-henry-kissinger/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4enlDgUP5Zc (1:01 min.)

President Trump held an unannounced meeting with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger on Wednesday.

The meeting did not appear on his public schedule when it was released and no updates were made prior to reporters learning of it at a press “spray.”

The White House press pool had been ushered into the Oval Office for what was assumed to be a spray of President Trump’s meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. But Trump was instead seated beside former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

The president said he was meeting with Kissinger to talk “about Russia and various other matters.”

We’re talking about Syria and I think that we’re going to do very well with respect to Syria and things are happening that are really, really, really positive,” Trump added. “We’re going to stop the killing and the death.”

Trump said it was “an honor” to discuss the issues with Kissinger because “he’s been a friend of mine for a long time.”


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov holds a news conference after meeting with President Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcmdrUfgZk8 (26:15 min.)
 
angelburst29 said:
Not only is Sergey Lavrov at the White House but Henry Kissinger, as well.

President holds unannounced meeting with Henry Kissinger (Video)
https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2017/05/president-holds-unannounced-meeting-henry-kissinger/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4enlDgUP5Zc (1:01 min.)

President Trump held an unannounced meeting with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger on Wednesday.

The meeting did not appear on his public schedule when it was released and no updates were made prior to reporters learning of it at a press “spray.”

The White House press pool had been ushered into the Oval Office for what was assumed to be a spray of President Trump’s meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. But Trump was instead seated beside former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

The president said he was meeting with Kissinger to talk “about Russia and various other matters.”

We’re talking about Syria and I think that we’re going to do very well with respect to Syria and things are happening that are really, really, really positive,” Trump added. “We’re going to stop the killing and the death.”


Trump said it was “an honor” to discuss the issues with Kissinger because “he’s been a friend of mine for a long time.”


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov holds a news conference after meeting with President Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcmdrUfgZk8 (26:15 min.)

Wow! Henry Kissinger is another surprise. There is definitely something brewing I think. With voyageur's post about the oil and companies involved I am beginning to think that we are seeing a resources war. Who knows exactly how the players are aligning but this is getting interesting. I am trying to refresh my memories of all the activities Kissinger has been involved in.

One of the main reasons for Lavrov and Tillerson getting together is:

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic said:
The two diplomats have agreed to meet on the sidelines of the ministerial Arctic Council talks on May 10-11.

This meeting is about the 8 countries bordering the Arctic Circle which are Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, Sweden, and the United States.

Oil is one of the resources being discussed along with environmental and scientific research.

One alleged US disadvantage is:
http://www.cfr.org/arctic/arctic-imperatives/p38868?cid=soc-twitter-in-arctic_imperatives-032217 said:
The report notes that while Russia has numerous ice-breaking vessels and China is building a third icebreaker, the United States owns only two operational ice-breaking ships—one heavy icebreaker and one medium-weight icebreaker—to serve both the Arctic and the Antarctic. Asserting that "icebreakers are a national capacity" required for a range of maritime missions to support U.S. security, economic, and commercial needs, the Task Force recommends that the United States fund and build additional icebreakers.

With the likely coming ice age everyone will have a disadvantage I suppose. Maybe it's all a distraction while we wait.

Maybe a "multipolar" world includes the North and South poles as well as national sovereignties? :huh:
 
This article shared on SOTT really delves in something interesting, the last line also made me laugh.

"Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime." ― Ernest Hemingway

Trump has learned the hard way that Reality TV Show blustering is not only an unsuitable demeanor for a President, but a disaster in foreign policy. A new reality is emerging publicly, very slowly like an iceberg in fog, where 90% of what is going on is beneath the surface. We have been digging deep at Veterans Today to find out what is happening. Here it is.

The Trump administration, after the sea-launched missile attack on Syria, has suffered a number of reverses, starting with the Pentagon finding the attack unsupportable. Last week Trump agreed, with pressure from the generals, to end all personal involvement in Iraq and Syria. All American forces decisions for those two areas will now be made at the Pentagon.

There is a silver lining in this for Trump. If a disaster happens in either place, he can blame it on the generals. This is part of another shift going on with Trump, "layering himself up" by delegating decision authority so that mistakes can be dealt with by firing people - something Trump has a proven talent at, and maybe his only talent.

Read more: https://www.sott.net/article/350378-Major-shifts-in-Trump-policies-are-happening-behind-the-scenes?utm_content=buffer19443&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Think about it, Trump is giving free reign to the Pentagon, at some point, you can expect them to screw up big time? And than he can fire lots of folks he wants to get rid of. That's the thing Trump does best. Finding ways to fire people.
 

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