UFOs are fake, so y'all better straighten up!

[Beau]

At what point does 'external considering' become something more like 'you can do whatever you like; I'm externally considering and I'm not going to complain or protect myself, or ask you to consider me?

And how far should we allow 'external considering' to go before we act to stop any intrusive, threatening or annoying behaviour of others?

Gurdjieff's definition of external consideration answers this for you:

"The opposite of internal considering and what is in part a means of fighting against it is external considering. External considering is based
upon an entirely different relationship towards people than internal considering. It is adaptation towards people, to their understanding, to their requirements. By considering externally a man does that which makes life easy for other people and for himself.

So, one does not allow people to walk all over them when practicing external consideration. It certainly does not mean that we have to accept someone's behavior no matter how annoying it is. But it is how we go about communicating with others that is the difference between internal and external consideration.

 

[fluxed]

I've had an interesting first two weeks at college to say the least. I'm majoring in Astrophysics, and thus far, almost all my time in my physics classes has been spent demonstrating the "obvious" baloney of the entire phenomenon while throwing in the occasional concept or formula to learn. ....


Perhaps it is just some scientists' attempts to keep children from lapsing into naive beliefs about "Space Brothers." But my mental bias always causes me to lean toward conspiracy, and makes me think there is more to it than that... Well, thanks for listening.

Having knowledge of astrophysics enlightens me towards biological diversity
and development in terms of life forms.

It would then be 'rash' and 'naive' to think only one star and one planet,
sustains such developed lifeforms.

Cosmological patterns are the key.

One pattern we see on Earth is the good people outnumber the bad, by far.

The bad human element was influenced and encouraged by a small
criminal gang of aliens, who were under oath to their leader.
Kings adopted this oath theme and it continues to this day, as
the primary method of control.

A royal genepool has been engineered by these aliens who
were first known as pagan gods.

When the famous prophet arrived, many of these 'gods' were exposed and
removed from the Earth, which is why the genepool rushed to convert to christ.

This conversion to christ was an attempt to give us the impression that
the genepool was related to the prophet, not the old pagan gods.

They outwardly swiched from evil character to good character in
usurping the character of christ.

Some of the criminal aliens have remained in contract with royalty
since christ walked the Earth, but the good aliens who removed the 'gods'
have been searching for the criminals and attempting to change the minds
of royalty, in terms of their evil behaviour.

They , i suspect, have failed in changing the spots of the devil so are
now preparing us all to remove them ourselves.

 

[davey72]

What an extremely interesting, and for me personally enlightening thread; Although i am nowhere near the level of intellect that is abundantly related here it has given me lots to ponder. Thanks for reigniting it fluxed.

 

[1984]

The bad human element was influenced and encouraged by a small
criminal gang of aliens, who were under oath to their leader.
Kings adopted this oath theme and it continues to this day, as
the primary method of control.

A royal genepool has been engineered by these aliens who
were first known as pagan gods.

When the famous prophet arrived, many of these 'gods' were exposed and
removed from the Earth, which is why the genepool rushed to convert to christ.

This conversion to christ was an attempt to give us the impression that
the genepool was related to the prophet, not the old pagan gods.

They outwardly swiched from evil character to good character in
usurping the character of christ.

Some of the criminal aliens have remained in contract with royalty
since christ walked the Earth, but the good aliens who removed the 'gods'
have been searching for the criminals and attempting to change the minds
of royalty, in terms of their evil[...]

Hi fluxed. Not sure if you've read the guidelines given you in your introductory post so I will remind you that this forum is based on - among other important things - solid research, not merely opinion. Please cite sources when making such statements as above.

 

[fluxed]

What an extremely interesting, and for me personally enlightening thread; Although i am nowhere near the level of intellect that is abundantly related here it has given me lots to ponder. Thanks for reigniting it fluxed.

Most welcome.

 

[fluxed]

Hi fluxed. Not sure if you've read the guidelines given you in your introductory post so I will remind you that this forum is based on - among other important things - solid research, not merely opinion. Please cite sources when making such statements as above.

This is a summary of my research.

The theory i present concerns an alien criminal gang aka Egyptian gods,
setting an example to kings who then set an example to us.

The alien element is supported with the drilling technology...

* They had tube drills - drill bits and the machinery to hold them
steady and apply rotational torque.
* They had saws that would cut granite with ease and precision.
* They had the ability to sculpt the hardest of rocks.
* They were accomplished at finishing granite in situ -
after a block had been placed in a wall or on the surface of a pyramid.
* They had the ability to cut, level and polish granite to a
sophisticated degree of flatness.
* They had lathes that would turn and polish granite, schist, basalt, etc
(in ways we have not duplicated).
* They had the means to cut extremely accurate parallel limestone
joints with remarkable flatness over large surface areas -
35 sq.ft.or more, and apparently had mastered the technique
before beginning the casing of the Great Pyramid at Giza.
* They had the knowledge and technology to consistently lift,
exactly maneuver and delicately place enormous weights of stone.
* They had the means and motivation to quarry and move
millions of stone blocks.

http://www.riaanbooysen.com/enigmas?start=1

The alien element is supported by Thoth, the god of writing...

''Far in the past, when first I came to thee,
found I thee in caves of rocks.
Lifted I thee by my power and wisdom
until thou didst shine as men among men.
Aye, found I thee without any knowing.
Only a little were ye raised beyond beasts.
Fanned I ever the spark of thy consciousness
until at last ye flamed as men.''


All the rest is common knowledge, such as paganism being outlawed following
christ. Surely i am not expected to evidence these matters?

 

[Approaching Infinity]

This is a summary of my research.

The theory i present concerns an alien criminal gang aka Egyptian gods,
setting an example to kings who then set an example to us.

That might not be far off. Have you read John Keel's books (Operation Trojan Horse, and The Eighth Tower, especially)? Or Laura's "High Strangeness"?

The alien element is supported with the drilling technology...

Why must ancient high technology necessarily be alien in nature?

The alien element is supported by Thoth, the god of writing...

There's no evidence "Thoth, the god of writing" wrote the Emerald Tablet.

 

[fluxed]

...Have you read John Keel's books (Operation Trojan Horse, and The Eighth Tower, especially)? Or Laura's "High Strangeness"?

I would appreciate if you could direct me to this 'high strangeness'.

The alien element is supported with the drilling technology...

Why must ancient high technology necessarily be alien in nature?

How else would we explain this...

* They had lathes that would turn and polish granite, schist, basalt, etc
(in ways we have not duplicated).

You mean a hunter just invented , with no background knowledge in science
whatsoever? Come on.

The alien element is supported by Thoth, the god of writing...

There's no evidence "Thoth, the god of writing" wrote the Emerald Tablet.

There is plently of evidence however, confirming he is the god who introduced
hieroglyphics and the mystery schools and the masonry mathematics.

He is the god of writing and sacred architecture and ritual / ceremony.

I trust Thoth did 'write' the tablets, going by the character of them.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I would appreciate if you could direct me to this 'high strangeness'.

http://www.amazon.com/High-Strangeness-Hyperdimensions-Process-Abduction/dp/0976406462/

How else would we explain this...

* They had lathes that would turn and polish granite, schist, basalt, etc
(in ways we have not duplicated).

You mean a hunter just invented , with no background knowledge in science
whatsoever? Come on.

How about that they DID have a background knowledge in science? Humans were just as smart then as they are now, if not smarter.

There is plently of evidence however, confirming he is the god who introduced
hieroglyphics and the mystery schools and the masonry mathematics.

He is the god of writing and sacred architecture and ritual / ceremony.

I trust Thoth did 'write' the tablets, going by the character of them.

It's clear you've made up your mind and are not interested in questioning your own beliefs. Are you sure this is the right forum for you, fluxed?

 

[fluxed]

Sorry Approaching Infinity, i have not read Operation Trojan Horse nor The Eighth Tower
but i will look out for them.

 

[fluxed]

http://www.amazon.com/High-Strangeness-Hyperdimensions-Process-Abduction/dp/0976406462/

Thanks.

How else would we explain this...

* They had lathes that would turn and polish granite, schist, basalt, etc
(in ways we have not duplicated).

You mean a hunter just invented , with no background knowledge in science
whatsoever? Come on.

How about that they DID have a background knowledge in science? Humans were just as smart then as they are now, if not smarter.

You need to make the distinction for us - royal humans or hunter humans?

I am talking about hunter humans and if you are serious with your
suggestion above , i find it a shame considering hunters used flint tools
and we have abundant evidence of their culture and technologies.

I mean, why did they go through metal stages - iron age, bronze age?

Going by your suggestion, they would just leap forward to today?

Common sense please.

Again, royalty was educated first. They instructed the constructions
and stone cirlces and temples. They had the books of Thoth to work from.

Ancient peoples trusted royalty and were FORCED to think that the king
was important to the crops and without him the crops would fail.

There is plently of evidence however, confirming he is the god who introduced
hieroglyphics and the mystery schools and the masonry mathematics.

He is the god of writing and sacred architecture and ritual / ceremony.

I trust Thoth did 'write' the tablets, going by the character of them.

It's clear you've made up your mind and are not interested in questioning your own beliefs. Are you sure this is the right forum for you, fluxed?

I was hoping you would address, but instead we are back to a conditional welcome.

 

[davey72]

Fluxed, you may be interested in this very well researched book.

www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=1725.0

It can be found on Amazon either in ebook, or softcover formats here: www.amazon.com/The-Secret-History-World-Alive/dp/0976406497

 

[Jasophoria]

And just to make another point.
Now it is 2019, and they still can't replicate some of the structures built in that period, lol

 

[Woodsman]

Holy cow.

I just reviewed this thread as it popped up again from the basement. I'm glad Neil survived the bumpy road of this thread and is still contributing.