"Universal Life" - Original Christianity

capt.picard said:
Keto- diet is very difficult if you do weight training - it just doesnt work beacuse you have no glycogen in your muscles and therefore you start shaking at training.

It is obvious that you haven't caught up on the Ketogenic Diet thread, and especially the posts related to Resistance Training. I suggest you get up to speed before you post more about diet.
 
capt.picard said:
Ok folks i summed all what was related to eating animals in this particular system.
Let me summarise what is to extrapolated from below. Remember this is a fraction of the book "This is My word". In a next post i will summarise all about the "Fall" of mankind so that it may be better observable for those not familiar with the writings. I only have read this book but they have other too. Especially interesting i find those called "Messege from the All(cosmos)". "All" means also universe on german so it fits. I saw (actually heard) on television audio material of Gabriele channeling. She is not using a board like the QFG but channeles directly through her speaking apparatus. Someday maybe i will post something on these books also but to then...

The bolded part sums it up for me. Speaking apparatus is her mouth? so i'm guessing she's in some kind of trance when speaking these words?
 
Hello folks!

Guardian: please note this about soil flora (i wanted to say something other and corrected myself). Still thank you for your reply :)

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capt.picard said:
I made a mistake about soil flora - i wanted to say fauna (there is hardly flora below earth surface - mostly seeds of aboveground plants). But thats only what the system tells. I am studying agriculture and know that organic manure increases total organic mater in the soil (most important organic carbon and nitrogen) and can sustain and even enhance soil fertility. But there are bad things as slurry and fresh manure which has not composted and yet is taken to the fields (the living bacteria competes with soil organisms for nutrients or even eats them - composting also means sanitizing the organic waste of the animals) beacuse great farms as they are in germany have great piles of poop backdoor in a short time.
mrknhr: please note this
capt.picard said:
I said it like this: "Remember: i am not saying anything, just citing and summarizing so dont attack me please if something is not pleasing to you :D "

I havent read life without bread but am on a "targeted ketogenic diet". I am aware about grains and their antinutrients, high water demand, and their poor nutritional value. I see it has been moved - apsolutely appropriate.

I get about half of my energy through fats. Keto- diet is very difficult if you do weight training - it just doesnt work beacuse you have no glycogen in your muscles and therefore you start shaking at training. So i eat about 150 grams Carbs during the day. Protein intake varies from day to day.

Yeah i am not on real keto diet and i wrote something of eating ca. 150 g of carbs. Somethimes its half of that amount on days without training, but still no real keto. You are right Data and i wont be writing further till i read the keto topic. I said weight training is diffucult from personal expirience when you eat no carbs. There was a time when i was on real keto diet and i just started shaking in the gym. (i train "5 Repetition maximum" - which means max amount of resistance you can lift five times- without carbs?-that would be a revolution!). I will not be posting anything more about nutrition just about this particular system and will surelly read the keto topic.

Hello EricG: not defending this woman but wasnt Carla Rueckert a trans cahanneler? She delivers the information by speaking. She may be channeling via telepathy - for that info one should read her biography. I remember one of the shows where she said that she "heard" the voice in her head. And also - allegedly- a light(?) being appeared to her in her home.
In order to clarify how exactly she does channel one would need to get his hands on her biography. I dont have the book and the matter will be dealt later on. For now i focus on their capital work "This is my word". In this book there is nothing personal of any kind, just "Christ" clarifying things on the new testament.

Thank you for all replies, for now on i will stick to the topic.
 
Hi, before i will post interesting things from this system i found at the end of the book some explanation of "Prophecy".

It is stated: "A person falls into a trance solely when he takes in forces from the beyond which are not the direct radiation of God. This is not the case with a genuine prophet of God."

Here there is the text about prophecy:

God-Prophecy

What is a prophet? -

His calling and his task - The prophetic word of the Christ of God in our time

"This Is My Word. Alpha and Omega. The Gospel of Jesus. The Christ-Revelation which the world does not know” is the book whose contents come directly from the primordial source, God. Christ, the Redeemer of all men and souls, reveals Himself through the prophetic word of a human being, Gabriele - through our sister, the prophetess and spiritual ambassadress of God in this mighty turn of time.

Even though God spoke and communicated with people at all times through prophets, enlightening, admonishing, comforting and guiding them - thus being with His children - many people in our time no longer know of this nearness of the speaking God; prophecy hardly has any more place in this world-oriented, materialistic way of thinking and living. This is why these explanatory words about prophecy are necessary. However, these explanations are also important for people in the coming epochs, as well as for those who will live on earth after the mighty turn of time, the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Peace of Jesus Christ. These explanations serve as a reminder; the prophetic word will no longer exist in the Era of Light. The people will have become the word itself, as they live the law of God.

God spoke to mankind in the Old Covenant. Through the mouth of prophets, He addressed people in His "I Am”. Some of the most renowned prophets were Isaiah, Elijah, Jeremiah, Daniel and Job. The greatest of all prophets was Jesus of Nazareth, the incarnated Son of God. And in the two thousand years that followed, prophets of God appeared again and again in Christianity. Light-filled beings from heaven, whose mission was to be the speaking instruments of God, were incarnated in the human bodies of these prophets.

The prophet is like a trumpet through which God, the eternal Spirit, blows. His instrument - the person through whom He speaks prophetically - is fully conscious; God's language of light is converted in him into his mother-tongue, so that people can hear and understand the eternal truth, God. True prophets of God remain fully conscious while the Spirit of God speaks through them. Jesus of Nazareth, the greatest prophet, is also an example of this. While Jesus was fully conscious, God, the Eternal, spoke through Him as through all true prophets - in the Old Covenant as well as after the time of Jesus. A person falls into a trance solely when he takes in forces from the beyond which are not the direct radiation of God. This is not the case with a genuine prophet of God.

The soul of the prophet is prepared for the approaching task in its human body over a long period of time, often over several incarnations. Finally, the human being is reminded by God at a certain moment of the mission lying in his soul; this is the so-called "calling”.

The path of the prophet of God is a life of suffering. He has an absolute obligation to God and has to express what God inspires him with. The earnest and admonishing words of God, which call for changing one's ways, are always unpleasant to the people of this world. This is why the prophets usually had to suffer mockery, slander, persecution and often death.

There are two categories of prophets: the proclaiming prophets - generally called prophets - and the teaching prophets. Through the proclaiming prophets, God gave and gives human beings the spiritual knowledge and the basic spiritual laws which they need to align their life with the divine and to gradually attain a lawful life. He admonished and admonishes people to fulfil the will of God. Proclaiming prophets make people conscious that they are children of God; they give them an understanding of His love and wisdom and show them the way home to Him.

Through teaching prophets, who appear during the great turns of time, the eternal Spirit not only anchors in the consciousness of people the spiritual wealth that had been revealed before, but conveys further and higher spiritual laws as well as aspects of the holy primordial law. The teaching prophet thus brings to man the laws of God in detail and interprets them. Through him, the Spirit of God teaches people the Inner Path back to the eternal home, where every soul once came from. Always through the teaching prophet, God teaches a spiritual wealth that exceeds what was known thus far.

The teaching prophet has first to work on himself, to develop and to actualize everything that God, the Lord, wants to teach through him. He himself has to walk the Inner Path, the path of self-recognition and purification, ahead of all people. After some time, this person, who is instructed and schooled directly by the Spirit of God, reaches the peak of mystical development, the goal of the seven-level path to God, thus becoming one with the consciousness, God. Such a person then recognizes, perceives and knows instantly those things and events that are concealed to the person who still lives in the world of the senses.

Through this, the teaching prophet becomes the spiritual ambassador of God, drawing from his opened consciousness that has become one with the divine. He no longer sees things or people as they seem to be, but perceives things, events and people as they are. He sees to the very bottom of everything that exists.

In the Old Testament, God sent to earth mainly proclaiming prophets, through whom He sought to bring mankind out of its bondage to matter and onto the right path to higher spiritual development.

After this, Christ, the part-power of the primordial power, the Co-Regent of the heavens, acted as Redeemer and teaching prophet among human beings. They did not recognize Him nor accept Him as Jesus of Nazareth - like many of the true prophets - and brought His life to an early end. With the words "It is finished” on Golgotha, He was able to accomplish the Redemption: implanting into every soul a spark of the redeeming part-power of the primordial power as supporting power that leads back to God.

Now God has sent again into this world a being, incarnated in the person called Gabriele. She serves the Eternal in this world as His teaching prophetess. Her opened spiritual consciousness, which rests in the Almighty and is imbued with the power of the Almighty, knows the eternal laws and the path to the eternal law, God. Our sister Gabriele thus perceives in her divine consciousness and receives from the Eternal the all-encompassing path to the heart of God, through her divine consciousness. Using simple words, she is able to explain the all-encompassing Inner Path, to lead a person to his causes, to help him eliminate them and, if he is willing, to guide him to Christ. She has insight into the depths of people, into the state of their souls. Her other task as teaching prophetess is to now bring into this world the details of the eternal law of God for all spheres of life: for living together in the family and at work, in business and society, for raising children and for social services, as well as for the well-being of soul and body. She also teaches the step by step application of the eternal laws in all spheres of life.

Teaching prophets thus have - in addition to the mission of being God's direct trumpets - the task of instructing their fellow men in all the laws of spiritual life and assisting them in all questions concerning the Inner Life.

This is why our sister Gabriele had to go through, experience, suffer and overcome a great deal herself - over several lives on earth - in order to be able to understand people and show them the right path.

In this great turn of time in which we now live, Christ founded His Kingdom of Peace on earth through His prophetic word and through the Christian Original Community New Jerusalem.

To prepare mankind for the Kingdom of God on earth, the Eternal is now giving explanations and teachings for all the basic questions of man at this time. And so, Christ revealed Himself through the prophetic word in 1989 about His way of living, thinking and working as Jesus of Nazareth; at the same time, He explained for the present and coming times the correlations and significance of His life on earth. The explanations, corrections and deepenings in this book "This Is My Word” are the authentic word of Christ. The statements in the already existing book, "The Gospel of Jesus”, and what is now additionally explained, corrected and deepened by Christ significantly highlight His way of living, thinking and working as Jesus of Nazareth. They serve the people's understanding and they are an example for them at this time, as well as for the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Peace, the Kingdom of Light of Christ on earth.

Moreover, in this mighty turn of time, Christ leads us into the whole truth: He now reveals - as already mentioned - the laws of God for all spheres of life on this earth, thus building up the all-encompassing Kingdom of God on earth.

The Original Christians

in Universal Life

-end of text-

capt.Picard out
 
capt.picard said:
But there are bad things as slurry and fresh manure which has not composted and yet is taken to the fields (the living bacteria competes with soil organisms for nutrients or even eats them

So you're saying that this lady had to "channel Christ" to learn what every farmer already knows....you don't throw fresh poop on your plants? Instead of bothering "Christ" with stuff like this, has she considered just reading a Farmer's Almanac?
 
Hi Guardian. I said in my ist post that they got this info "particulary" by Christ. - that was an assumption from me :-[. Please forgive me. I assumed it beacuse it is commonly known that matured manure can enhance soil fertility (so why wouldnt they use it?). Edit [acctually Christ said it : "Stop killing the tiniest of animals, the microscopic life of the soil, through artificial fertilizers, and excrements and the like!" Source: http://www.universelles-leben.org/cms/en/prophecy/the-message.html
They are not using any manure, not fresh nor composted.

Folowing explanation is found here: http://www.universelles-leben.org/cms/en/animals-are-asking-let-us-live/original-christians-protect-animals-and-nature/part-2.html

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For Over 20 Years: Peaceable Farming Without Raising Animals for Slaughter or Work

Right from the beginning, the Original Christians not only talked about animal protection, they also set an example. In agriculture firms the soil is cultivated »peaceably«: The organisms in the soil are maltreated neither via pesticides, fungicides or other chemicals nor with manure and slurry. Animals are the friends of the people; no animal is slaughtered or its cadaver eaten. The Original Christian farmers take for granted that: »We are protectors of animals and nature, not murderers and robbers of nature!«

No Chemicals
The use of chemicals always means deliberate interference in the hormone and enzyme balance of the plants. Plants in conventional farming are manipulated at will; »weeds« are brutally killed by chemically burning the cells, or by producing artificial growth that makes the cells burst. In contrast, peaceable farming means cultivation without pesticides, that is, without herbicides, insecticides or fungicides – out of respect for the life in nature.

No Artificial Fertilizers or Sewage Sludge
In conventional farming, artificial fertilizers serve as an »infusion« with the synthetically produced main nutrients nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium. This produces large yields, but the life quality of the plants falls by the wayside. Artificial fertilizers also highly contaminate the groundwater. In addition, a large part of the sewage sludge produced in German sewage plants lands on the fields with all its heavy metals. The rule in peaceable farming is: No artificial fertilizers and no sewage sludge !

No Manure and Slurry!
In order to stimulate excessive growth, instead of artificial fertilizers manure and slurry are usually applied in »eco«-farming, waste products of the animal industry. The acrid slurry damages the life in the soil. Physicians are also critical of the application of manure and slurry because of the residues of antibiotics and medications contained in them as well as the danger of contamination with E-coli-bacteria. Neither manure nor slurry is spread on the fields of peaceable farming.

No Murdering of Animals
Right from the beginning, there has been no keeping of animals for slaughter or work. It’s true that many animals live together with the people on the farms of the Original Christians as friends and companions, and no horse, no pig, no cow, no chicken and no sheep must fear the butcher’s knife.

No Waste Products from Slaughterhouses
Selling the waste products from slaughterhouses has become a lucrative business. In conventional as well as so-called »ecological« farming, bone meal, hair, horn meal and blood meal are used as alternatives to artificial fertilizers – the application of such waste products are permissible according to the eco-regulations of the European Union. However, peaceable farming is more than »eco or organic«: It is farming without the use of animal waste products!

No Genetic Manipulation
The farmers in peaceable farming do not try to improve God’s creation. They do not force the plants to adapt to the needs of human beings. Instead, they strive day after day to meet the requirements of the plants.

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I will be more carefull in future.

Later i will post about interesting things mentioned like "the silver cord", Gods ending of the covenant with old Israel and building a new Israel (Israel=where gods will is fullfiled), earth changes, The "fall" event and redemption, city of New Jerusalem on the hill - [see Session 4 July 2009- interesting], changing of the earths axis beacuse of shifting landmasses...

Edit: For now i found something about "autheticity" : http://www.universelles-leben.org/cms/en/prophecy/authenticity.html

Gretings by capt.Picard
 
Hi capt.picard,

What is their take on UFO's and Aliens ?. I don't mean to overload you, but I couldn't find it. I downloaded one book(html) from the links you posted, other book is not coming up. but I didn't see any thing with those words.. As already mentioned, they can be correct and incorrect in other areas to detriment of believers.
 
mkrnhr said:
Hello capt.picard,
As a side note, you are not on a Ketogenic Diet. You may be interrested by the discussion and experiments on the Ketogenic Diet in this thread: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.0.html
Also, before that thread, you may consider the transition to the Ketogenic Diet through the Paleolithic diet discussed in this thread: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,22916.0.html
There are also many other threads on diet and health in the health and diet board http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/board,32.0.html

On the vegetarianism issue, you may consider the discussion in this thread as well: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,20771.0.html
Note that "The Vegetarian Myth" by Lierre Keith is an essential synthesis to how Vegetarianism and Agriculture (as you will see, the worst evolutionary mistake in human history) are destroying Nature). There are also other books recommended in the above threads. One does not experiment with diet without knowledge.

Happy readings :)

capt.picard please read the links in the above post in their entirety. Your statement that animals should not be eaten is ludicrous. The material you are linking to is obvious disinformation, so please read the information already provided to you in the above post.
 
capt.picard said:
They are not using any manure, not fresh nor composted.

"Sacred manure" now that's a new one :lol:

I see they're vegetarians, which totally explains why this woman thinks she's talking to "Christ" Malnutrition can cause all kinds of hallucinations.

Folks who think the life force in animals is somehow more important and/or "divine" than the life force in plants always make me chuckle. Life is life, and life eats life to live. Welcome to Earth.
 
cP - just based on what you have reproduced here so far, I get the impression that the core nature of our collective reality is not really addressed and that the bottom line message is another "trust me" and "have faith" doctrine with a little more esoterica thrown in. That may be because I haven't taken the time to go through the material and links - but that's the impression so far.
 
_http://www.universelles-leben.org/cms/en/prophecy/the-prophetess.html
"Gabriele is the greatest bearer of the word of the Spirit of God since Jesus of Nazareth. "
:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:


OK, I'm now taking bets on how long it takes this thread to get moved to "Baked Noodles"
 
Guardian said:
_http://www.universelles-leben.org/cms/en/prophecy/the-prophetess.html
"Gabriele is the greatest bearer of the word of the Spirit of God since Jesus of Nazareth. "
:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:


OK, I'm now taking bets on how long it takes this thread to get moved to "Baked Noodles"

How come may you be laughing about "The Prophetess and Spiritual Ambassador of God for our time"? :whistle:

Guardian said:
... Life is life, and life eats life to live. Welcome to Earth.

You're being so rude ! :jawdrop:
 
eoste said:
Guardian said:
... Life is life, and life eats life to live. Welcome to Earth.
You're being so rude ! :jawdrop:

Not rude, it's just how it is. That's how organic life is organized. One respects nature/life for how it is, or chooses to violate it by imposing its own subjective views of how life should be.
 
Hi all,

please note that i have said nothing! Just citing. Put your guns down please. It started with nutrition beacuse the systems disagree here, perhaps they wont disagree in other stuff? Wait for other things to be posted. Remember this is one book explaining the "gospel of Jesus". Arent we here to separate the wheat from the chaff? Wait for more material. More "tangible" things are given in the book which i dont have right now:
I started this topic in order to see if someone is familiar with this. I dont want to "ruin" this topic by presenting the system as something it is not. There is a lot more to it and i must say i am no expert-just have read this one bookabout the system . If you dont like it, then erase the whole topic- i dont mind, i will go on with the research anyway. When i get the book in the link then it could become be more interesting.

In this book there is nothing about aliens or UFOs. There is mentoin about the silver cor which is a bond through which you recieve life energy for your body. God will no one put on eternal suffering. No one said nor it is in the system that anything is more valuable than the other. The system just says the animals should not be eaten, but the "fruits of the field and the forest". I didnt say that - remember.
My goodness whats that all about the manure. Lets use our energy for better purposes.

Greets.
 
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