Venezuela: Resistance or disintegration?

2. The radical antagonism showed by Chavez towards the U.S., while somewhat praise worthy and refreshing, just wasn't a long term (medium term even) good idea. After all, Venezuela does not have a nuclear deterrent to keep the wolves at bay AND they sell most of their oil to the U.S., talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

That's a distressing but good point. It's similar to Libya who was pressured into giving up its military strength in order to survive the antagonism of the US, which even when they did (and probably because) ended in a blood bath. It's really no wonder why so many South American countries choose to side with the US. It's no different from the old mafioso tactics that make only one choice possible. Putin led Russia toward a different course that involved developing their military capabilities, which appears to be the only language the US powers can understand.
 
I find the information provided by msante very interesting, and I think it is indeed something that should be considered when looking deeper into Venezuela's reality. But I've also been thinking about what was suggested about how some of the government's behaviour can be seen as defensive mechanisms against an overbearing attack.

I think it is true that corruption has spread on the Venezuelan government, yet, what is described as the type of corruption happening is so much like the corruption I see in my 'right-wing' government - including the huge spending on 'social assistance' used as political weapon - , with the clear distinction that poverty hasn't really been reduced, nor literacy and overall life conditions have improved. That is quite a difference, IMHO.

That is just one of my points, the same phenomena of corruption, deterioration of public institutions, propaganda, etc, that we have seen and criticized for years in right-wing governments, are observable in a left-wing government theoretically focused on favoring the most deprived sectors and those who have been marginalized by the system for decades. Then the question arises: Why do we tend to have a much more benign view when we try to describe the actions and effects of the Bolivarian government?

I want to be clear, I am not exposing here the theory of the 2 demons (both are bad) nor do I intend to equate the perversity of the U.S. to the Bolivarian government, I am just saying that in the case of Venezuela my instinct is shouting to me that we should analyze this whole issue more closely and not reduce most of the defects and errors of the Venezuelan government to a collateral effect of foreign interference.

On the other hand, I would like to emphasize that although there was a period when the poorest sectors experienced improvements, these improvements were temporary (they were not structural) and tied directly to a dollar-dependent rentier strategy that has been Venezuela's disease for more than 6 or 7 decades.

I'm thinking of an analogy, but I'm not sure it will do justice to Venezuela's issues. Say a man is sick and suddenly starts to improve his condition with actions. He starts getting supplements to deliver nutrients to all the body and take actions to improve the conditions on the most affected areas. His body starts getting better, but then is infected by an 'outsider' parasitic super-bug that is REALLY hard to kill. The body's defence mechanisms must be focused almost entirely on the battle against that super-bug and, therefore, some of its other life-supporting systems start to weaken again. Within his body, there are other opportunistic bugs which remain under control in healthy conditions, but when the other systems start weakening and there aren't enough resources to keep them under control, they thrive. On top of that, the 'outsider' parasitic super-bug starts working together with the 'local' opportunistic bugs to create havoc. That body is now under attack from within and without, so to say, and we wouldn't say it is the man's fault. He CAN do something about it still, and surely there will be some blame on him if he knew he could do something about it but didn't have enough will to do it... but still, it is possible that he could thrive if he hadn't been infected with that 'outsider' parasite.

Continuing with the analogy... what would happen if this man instead of taking the right actions to improve (acquire knowledge, changes in his diet, adequate supplementation, etc.) opts for quick solutions such as taking medications that make symptoms disappear or diminish? Perhaps he would have experienced a temporary improvement that might resemble a cure but in the long run did nothing more than hide a disease that remained there. IMO this is more like what happened to Venezuela.
 
An additional note: I am reading a lot about Venezuelan history context (XX and XXI centuries) and Bolivarian Revolution. It is difficult to find decent information (i.e. works that are not anti-Chavez or come from pro-Revolution activists) but not impossible. Most of the material is in Spanish, so I will try to translate at least some excerpt as far as I can.
 
Well, continuing the analogy... or perhaps simplifying it.

It’s a person who decided that eating only tofu would be enough to survive, which we would all agree is not the smartest thing to do.

But because his step parents don’t like this new ideology, they poison all his tofu, but because it’s tofu, it’s super easy to hide the poison.

So one of them is helping the other do their job.

So what have we established?

Is venezuela probably doing something awful to herself? Yes
Is the US poisoning it a reality that probably is making things 10 times worse? Yes sir
Thinking of a 3 force rule, good and bad and the specific context. Where does wrong fall? With the US

This is why I agree with Russia that it’s an internal issue. Whether they want to run themselves to the ground, it’s their right to do so as a sovereign nation. Running themselves to the ground is a more sovereign action that any of his neighbors are even capable of.

Perhaps it’s their destiny to do so, karmic even, I don’t know. But it’s their right. The US has spent decades attempting to stop this process and despite all the idiocies of the socialist experiment, it has survived. And maybe the us helped prolonging it, who knows?

Maybe Venezuela wouldn’t be in a better place without the interference, maybe the experiment would already be over, or maybe in an even worse place. And this is key I think.

Maybe without a explicit scapegoat the people in Venezuela would have gone.. “well this is awful, we need change” but the crazy thing is that all the boring speeches that maduro gives about the imperial interference, are all true and factual enough where no one can deny it.

Russia did the same, ran their awful experiment for decades and now look at them.

So, they’re both facts that can coexist, interference and poor management.
 
Some excerpts (I apologize if the translation isn't good enough):

From http://revistas.unam.mx/index.php/rel/article/download/57462/50990

His [Chávez] proposal in the 1998 elections was to transform representative democracy into a "participative" one - a proposal that had been born in debates of Venezuelan institutions and civil society organizations since the mid-1980s (López Maya, 2011) [...]. Bolivarianism appropriated this proposal and even expanded it so that the participatory principle would be applied at all levels, structures and apparatus of the state. The "participative and protagonist" democracy was embodied in the Constitution approved in 1999, called the Constitution of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela (CRBV).

During the first Chávez administration, an atmosphere of optimism was created, particularly among the poor and impoverished, but also among progressive urban middle classes. Public policy decisions with a participatory perspective stimulated the creation of multiple institutions, such as technical water tables, land committees, gas tables, self-managed community organizations, local public participation councils, and so on. Thanks to these initiatives, the strength and legitimacy of the rising elite strengthened Chávez's political project and leadership in the face of the violent political confrontation that took place in the country from 2001 to 2005, between the government and powerful social and political opposition forces, led by business groups, the media, managers of the state oil company, disgruntled military and political parties of the past, backed by international interests and actors. The Chávez government overcame a coup d'état, an oil strike and guarimbas operations (track cuts, many violent); likewise, President Chávez triumphed in 2004 over a presidential recall referendum. In December 2005, Chavismo obtained 100 percent of the seats in the National Assembly when the main opposition parties withdrew from the electoral contest, alleging that there would be fraud.

Political success brought authoritarian temptation on the part of the President. Empowered, both by his victories against opposition insurrections and by frequent electoral processes, where a plebiscite logic operated, the personalism of the President was strengthened to the detriment of the institutions. On the other hand, destroyed and fragmented the political and social opposition and strengthened military sectors loyal to Chávez over civilians and political parties of the government coalition, Chávez took the one-person decision to "radicalize" the process of changes. As a result, the face of the "oil rent maldition" once again showed its jaws…

As a background scenario, the price of a barrel of oil has risen steadily since 2003, contributing financially to the fact that the initial Bolivarianism was basically reduced to a political force loyal to the person of the president and any action or thought proposed by him ("chavismo"). Participatory and protagonist democracy became "protagonist and revolutionary", and the development model, which from its beginnings was confusing, was directed towards a "21st century socialism", also confusing, but as "rentistic" or more than the industrialist development model (see López Maya and Lander, 2007).

Personal note: it is curious that several authors mention the fact that Chávez did not speak about "socialism" until 2005 in the Sao Paulo World Social Forum.

From http://nuso.org/media/articles/downloads/4.TC_Straka_268.pdf

There has been much debate as to whether Chávez's project was socialist from the beginning, or whether the construction of "Bolivarian socialism," as he ended up calling his ideology, was the result of a gradual radicalization. His contacts with communist groups since the 1980s, as well as his visit to Havana in 1994 and the presence of extreme left-wing advisors already in the 1998 election campaign, support the thesis that he always professed some kind of socialist thought and that his continued declarations that he was not a socialist or communist in the first phase of his public life (many of them can be seen on the Internet) were nothing more than stratagems not to frighten voters. A little in the style of Fidel Castro, who denied being a communist during the entire guerrilla war and the first two years of his government. In fact, Chávez did not speak of socialism until the 2005 Sao Paulo World Social Forum, that is, after the string of victories that thwarted his main opponents (the 2002 oil strike and coup, the 2003 strike, the 2004 referendum and, finally, the overwhelming triumph in the 2006 presidential elections).

Chávez's 2006 presidential re-election, with a historic 63.4 percent of valid votes, was interpreted by the President as approval of his socialist proposal. In the following months he implied a greater centralization and concentration of power in his person and the deepening of the process of destruction of the institutional counterweights on the Executive, already initiated in his first government. For his second government, President Chávez was able to rely on his absolute control over the Legislative, Judicial and Citizen powers, as well as over the Electoral power constituted by the National Electoral Council. The proposal for a "communal" socialist state, presented by Chávez as a proposal for constitutional reform in 2007, however, was rejected by the population in a plebiscite called by the National Assembly that December (Lander and López Maya, 2008). This did not stop President Chávez from finding, in the following months and years, thanks to the subordination of the Judicial Branch to his will, legal interpretations and administrative resources to establish the legal-political framework of a new regime that would develop parallel to the constitutional one (Curiel, 2014). Unlike the CRBV's participatory democracy, Chávez's socialist proposal lacked debate and consensus in society (López Maya in González, 2013).

The situation began to become less propitious to Chavismo in 2009, when in addition to ignoring the popular mandate, hydrocarbon prices in the world market suffered a significant decline induced mainly by the contraction of the world economy as a result, among other phenomena, of the U.S. mortgage crisis. But they recovered shortly afterwards and the government ignored this and other signs of change in the oil market, and continued to increase fiscal spending for its socialist project and its social policies - the well-known "missions" - increasingly clientelist and at the service of its electoral interests (Maingon, 2006). Starting in 2012, oil prices fell again, and the trend has continued with the current president Nicolás Maduro, until the time to finish this article (beginning of 2016). To the extent that the government applied the same strategy as in 2009, i.e. to do nothing and wait for a new price increase, the country was plunged into a deep global crisis with similar socioeconomic figures for inflation, GDP decline and poverty at the end of the twentieth century.

The current severe crisis, in many respects, is similar to the one that brought Chavism to power, since in the end the "revolutionary" policies did not solve any of the structural economic, social or political-institutional problems. Even in some aspects -such as institutional and political performance- the current crisis is more serious, since the destruction of representative democracy institutions has deepened the endemic inefficiency and administrative corruption, while political polarization and the lack of recognition of the officialism of its political adversaries -which it disqualifies and considers "enemies"- has contributed to the growing breakdown of the norms of social coexistence. Likewise, the exacerbated statism of the socialist proposal accentuated the Dutch disease, a recurrent evil in our economy, reducing the industrial apparatus by half and prostrating agricultural production through confiscations of haciendas and herds.9 The unexpected fall in oil prices since mid-2014 has made the massive imports of the boom era unsustainable, opening up a huge shortage and shortage of food, medicines and basic goods.

Chávez appeared in front of television cameras for the last time on December 8, 2012, before leaving for Havana to undergo the last operation. Enesa alocución announced that something happened to him and he left his vice-president and chancellor, Nicolás Maduro, as his successor. Following the guidelines agreed upon in the CRBV, his death immediately declared, presidential elections were called, which took place on April 14. Maduro won those elections by a very narrow margin of 223,599 votes, 1.5 percent ahead of the MUD candidate, Capriles Radonski himself (CNE, 2013). The continuation of the unstable and depressed oil market, a now charismatic and politically weak president, and an erratic, polarized and deaf government orientation to any recognition of the population's growing discontent have marked Maduro's management. In the last two years, to this gubernamental performance was added the sustained drop in the prices of the oil barrel in the world market, contributing to the chavismo losing important political backing expressed in the weakening of its electoral flow, diminishing the popularity of the President and in the appearance of internal political dissidences.

In the parliamentary elections held on December 6, 2015, the chavismos suffered a resounding defeat. As has been consolidated in this chavista era, the elections were characterized by widely advantageous competition conditions for the official candidates, given the recurrent use they make of state goods and resources in their campaigns, including a powerful communicational platform that controls the majority of television, radio and press channels. Despite this, the citizenry, which participated massively in this process -75 percent participation-, gave a solid victory to the MUD (CNE, 2015).

The death of President Hugo Chávez in March 2013 left an immeasurable political vacuum, given that in his years of government he ended up concentrating practically all power and making all decisions. Since its beginnings, Maduro's government has been suffering from a crisis of legitimacy and governability that has highs and lows.

Several ingredients make it difficult to overcome this crisis peacefully. One is the persistence of the polarized, offensive and aggressive discourse of officialism. In a context in which more than half of the voters voted against chavismo, ignoring, offending, persecuting opponents and even imprisoning leaders obscures the political atmosphere. Allowing the exercise of violence by groups and politicians associated with the government against opposition leaders, as has happened in institutions such as the National Assembly, or in peaceful protests such as marches and opposition concentrations in 2014, where paramilitary groups - called collectives - armed pro-Chavistas and in functions of repression appear, only accumulates indignation and resentments. Venezuela is a society that today exhibits high levels of social violence and now growing practices of political violence.

The charismatic domination exerted by Chávez while he ruled has comechanging towards a "routinization", which has not taken the modern "rational-legal" path under laws but a traditional neopatrimonialist one (Bechle, 2011; Weber, 1977). The leader's trust group has been establishing a political order in which the features of extreme presidentialism, systematic clientelism and the indifferentiation of public and private goods as opposed to an order guided by the rule of law predominate (Bechle, 2011). Although some legal mechanisms persist, and elections are held, these mechanisms are not the main or determining factor in the exercise of political power. These characteristics extinguish the "anti-authoritarian" nature that could have had the charismatic domination exercised by Chávez (Weber, 1977), to give way to a political tyrannical or despotic order, sustained by a system of values where the sacralization of Chávez as a quasi-divine figure of a State religion is combined with the legitimization by right of those who declare to be his inheritors. This neopatrimonialist drift finds in significant social and political sectors of the country resistances and rejections that force the government to control society by means of a growing repression and militarization, which, together with the socioeconomic crisis that has been deepening, keeps in permanent instability and socio-political anxiety (López Maya and Panzarelli, 2014, unpublished).

Extreme inefficiencies in public administration also characterize this type of domination, and are another important dimension of the Venezuelan global crisis. Although it has been an intrinsic part of the functioning of the Petroestado (Karl, 1995), it has been worsened by the deliberate destruction of the country's democratic institutionality within the transition plan towards a "communal socialist" state.

In effect, since 2009, when Chávez emerged victorious from a constitutional amendment referendum to incorporate the indefinite re-election of the authorities into the articles of the CRBV, the President, relying on the subordination of the Judicial Power and other public powers, promoted the approval of a new body of laws that opened a legal channel to create a state apparatus parallel to the constitutional: the "Communal State", towards which state resources have been diverted. This State, centralized around the Presidency, organizes the population in communal and communal councils, where decisions are taken in assemblies, weakening and endangering the territorial organization of the country in states and municipalities, and constitutional liberal principles such as universal suffrage, political pluralism and the separation and independence of public powers. Governors and mayors have seen their attributes and resources weakened in favor of this new and parallel state apparatus.

The participation of citizens in this emerging State is a stimulated and directed activity from above, within a centralized planning scheme and from a collective and not individual conception of the political subject. Communal councils organize the population territorially and communes articulate it to the State, acting, both instances, as managers of the policies approved by the political leadership. This incipient institutionality does not have an alternative economic model to the rentistic one, and given the disappearance of Chávez, who was its ideologue, as well as the current crisis, its viability has been severely diminished. On the other hand, this overlapping of two parallel state structures contributes to the anarchic and anomic situation that currently characterizes daily life in Venezuela.
 
That is just one of my points, the same phenomena of corruption, deterioration of public institutions, propaganda, etc, that we have seen and criticized for years in right-wing governments, are observable in a left-wing government theoretically focused on favoring the most deprived sectors and those who have been marginalized by the system for decades. Then the question arises: Why do we tend to have a much more benign view when we try to describe the actions and effects of the Bolivarian government?

I don't think we do. But just because a certain Latin American government suffers from a more or less degree of corruption, is inefficient in its spending and has an obnoxious discourse (like all its neighbors) we shouldn't brush aside, minimize or make relative the much larger issue by focusing on such corruption. The main issue is that this government has been under siege and under attack for several years from external powers which seek to destroy it and steal its resources, at the expense of the population, and which does explain the vast majority of Venezuela's problems.

Some people tell me on social media that Chávez and Maduro "destroyed" Venezuela. The more I read and think about this, the more it seems to me that, whatever bad things they did, do not explain the situation the country is in. But learning about the insidious ways of external interference goes a very long way in explaining the chaos as it is now.

Nobody thought Saddam was a 'good guy'. But when Iraq was under sanctions that were estimated to kill half a million children, and later was invaded, resulting in the deaths of more than a million civilians, the main issue was the sanctions and the invasion, by far - not whatever Saddam did to his own people.
 
This is a bit silly, but does anyone else think that Guaidó is a lot like a young Obama? I was watching him speaking, and to me it was striking how the mannerism and appearance is similar. Perhaps they came from the same 'factory'? :lol:


Funny you say that. I was thinking the other day that Guaidó reminds me of Trudeau. ;-) They're both puppet warriors for the dark forces of social disintegration and they do look quite similar to me. All three, if you add Obama to the list.

Yet another reason why 'factory farming' is bad for us ;-D
 
So what have we established?

Is venezuela probably doing something awful to herself? Yes
Is the US poisoning it a reality that probably is making things 10 times worse? Yes sir
Thinking of a 3 force rule, good and bad and the specific context. Where does wrong fall? With the US

I do not fully agree with this application of the 3 forces. The fact that the perversity of the United States is much greater in magnitude and global reach does not detract from the fact that in a corner of the world, on a relatively small scale, a nation underwent a ponerogenic process (I do not say that this is necessarily a fact, it is my hypothesis) that must be analyzed and understood with conscience and responsibility. If we simply conclude that because the U.S. is more "evil" we must minimize the phenomenon that may have developed in Venezuela, I humbly think we are wrong. Many of us have set out to do our best to trutify the world. Hiding or ignoring part of reality, even if it is a quantitatively small part of reality (not necessarily qualitative), does not help in this purpose.

This is why I agree with Russia that it’s an internal issue. Whether they want to run themselves to the ground, it’s their right to do so as a sovereign nation. Running themselves to the ground is a more sovereign action that any of his neighbors are even capable of.

Perhaps it’s their destiny to do so, karmic even, I don’t know. But it’s their right. The US has spent decades attempting to stop this process and despite all the idiocies of the socialist experiment, it has survived. And maybe the us helped prolonging it, who knows?

I want to make it clear: I'm 110% agree with this. I have no doubt that Venezuela should solve Venezuela's problems, and in fact I think we should trust (or at least hope) that in the short or long term the Venezuelan people will learn something positive from all these experiences.

I deeply despise the way the U.S. behaves, its "scavenging" vocation and predatory voracity, and I will continue to expose it as far as I can, but in no way will I resign myself to the idea that the perversity of the U.S. prevents me from seeing other forms of manifestation (even smaller) of the entropic forces that are permanently trying to dominate humanity.
 
I don't think we do. But just because a certain Latin American government suffers from a more or less degree of corruption, is inefficient in its spending and has an obnoxious discourse (like all its neighbors) we shouldn't brush aside, minimize or make relative the much larger issue by focusing on such corruption. The main issue is that this government has been under siege and under attack for several years from external powers which seek to destroy it and steal its resources, at the expense of the population, and which does explain the vast majority of Venezuela's problems.

Well, as I understand it, here's our greatest point of dissent. I don't think what happened in Venezuela is the same as what happened in other Latin American countries (although there are points in common). Personally, I think that in Venezuela the ideological possession of its leaders was quantitatively and qualitatively much greater, and the harmful effects, consequently, greater.

I don't really think external attacks explain the vast majority of Venezuela's problems.
 
I do not fully agree with this application of the 3 forces. The fact that the perversity of the United States is much greater in magnitude and global reach does not detract from the fact that in a corner of the world, on a relatively small scale, a nation underwent a ponerogenic process (I do not say that this is necessarily a fact, it is my hypothesis) that must be analyzed and understood with conscience and responsibility. If we simply conclude that because the U.S. is more "evil" we must minimize the phenomenon that may have developed in Venezuela, I humbly think we are wrong. Many of us have set out to do our best to trutify the world. Hiding or ignoring part of reality, even if it is a quantitatively small part of reality (not necessarily qualitative), does not help in this purpose.

Well that’s precisely what I’m saying. In the interest of truth Venezuela’s role in its own demise can’t be denied, but having said that, the US is at major fault here and carries more of the blame which does not deny the destructive nature of the ideologically possessed Venezuelan government.

Thinking in nonlinear terms, what the US has done while attempting to topple the government in Caracas is to perpetuate its existence. Does that make sense? If Venezuela had been left alone, the faults of the government (which again I’m not denying) may have already been enough for its own people to realize that this was not a good direction for the country to move towards.

Having the constant pressure from the outside provided the ponerized nation an external enemy (which is essential as we know) that justified everything domestically. Does that make sense?

Think of the analogy, Venezuela decided tofu was all it needed to live... which is a disastrous choice! But the US came and poisoned that tofu. Should we ignore that eating nothing but tofu is self destructive? Absolutely not. But that doesn’t mean we ignore the poison either.

And in the great scheme of things, someone choosing freely to eat nothing but tofu is, self destructive and silly yes, but their own choice and it ought to be respected, no matter how nuts it may seem to us.

But someone coming and poisoning that tofu is criminal.

Does that make sense?
 
Well, as I understand it, here's our greatest point of dissent. I don't think what happened in Venezuela is the same as what happened in other Latin American countries (although there are points in common). Personally, I think that in Venezuela the ideological possession of its leaders was quantitatively and qualitatively much greater, and the harmful effects, consequently, greater.

I don't really think external attacks explain the vast majority of Venezuela's problems.

I don't think the two things can be split into separate phenomena. US pressures have had this effect on other places as well. Iran is a really good example in how they've established a number of staunch Islamic policies as a reaction to shield themselves from the US, and the ideological possessed have come out of the woodwork. It's kind of similar to how people could react from trauma with narcissistic wounding.
 
I don't think the two things can be split into separate phenomena. US pressures have had this effect on other places as well. Iran is a really good example in how they've established a number of staunch Islamic policies as a reaction to shield themselves from the US, and the ideological possessed have come out of the woodwork. It's kind of similar to how people could react from trauma with narcissistic wounding.

Well, I've been reading for several days about Venezuela's recent history (the last 60 or 70 years), the ideological currents that have traversed it, and the history of Chávez himself. Based on this, I do think that a certain separation of phenomena can be made (even partially). In this sense it is difficult to trace the chain of causes and effects, and the easiest way seems to be to put the U.S. and its attacks as the primary cause. Here there is a dilemma that I am not in a position to resolve because U.S. attacks on various parts of the world go back to very remote times. What I can suspect is that there are elements intrinsic to Venezuelan leaders and their society that transcend U.S. attacks and have played an important role in the current state in which Venezuela finds itself.

I leave here some of the documents I've been reading in case anyone wants to keep an eye on it. IMHO there is more here than a country that literally goes to hell amidst the desperation to defend itself from U.S. attacks.
 
I want to be clear, I am not exposing here the theory of the 2 demons (both are bad) nor do I intend to equate the perversity of the U.S. to the Bolivarian government, I am just saying that in the case of Venezuela my instinct is shouting to me that we should analyze this whole issue more closely and not reduce most of the defects and errors of the Venezuelan government to a collateral effect of foreign interference.
I'll give you my take on all this. Hands Off of Venezuela (referring to the US). Venezuela problems are for Venezuelans to solve. Corruption was there from the start and it will remain there. The only time it will "disappear" is when we stop hearing about it in MSM BUT it will still be there.

People seem to have the fetish that somehow an external fairy godmother can come and fix everything. Well one needs to be sleeping to not notice that every time she came (over the last 40 yrs) the countries were in a worst state than before she executed her "intervention".

The label of "corrupt" is a very selective tool used in Western MSM. I don't see it being used much in case of Ukraine while the whole country from the word go after the Wall came down was corrupt and still is corrupt. Before Chavez came there was corruption. The whole of Latin America basically runs on this as well as Africa.

Best look at how this all operates is still for me the book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins. He lays it out clearly in the book. Nothing but a book can do justice to this topic. A few paragraphs will do no good, that's for sure.

Perhaps he would have experienced a temporary improvement that might resemble a cure but in the long run did nothing more than hide a disease that remained there. IMO this is more like what happened to Venezuela.
Well at least the Venezuelans profited/benefited from this "waist of money" by living a bit better as against never to enjoy this benefit if Chavez did not appear on the scene. In the end it is Venezuela's money and they have a right to do with it what they wish. Not have some external entity telling them what is good for them.

Chavez was Democratically elected as was Maduro. UN was invited to monitor (same was true with Ukraine and Janukovich) the last elections and refused. That's where the focus needs to be.
 
The quiet admission confirms what Caracas’ government has said for years: The United States is waging an economic war on Venezuela, the country with the world’s largest oil reserves.

Crippling sanctions imposed by the Donald Trump administration have bled Venezuela of billions of dollars.

The first United Nations rapporteur to visit the nation in two decades, legal expert Alfred de Zayas, told The Independent that the devastating international sanctions on Venezuela are illegal and could potentially be a crime against humanity.

Professor Steve Ellner, a leading scholar of Venezuela’s politics who has lived and taught in the country for decades, explained in an interview on Moderate Rebels that the sanctions have economically isolated Caracas: “The fear of retaliation on the part of the Trump administration has pressured the world economic community to lay off the Venezuelan economy. This amounts practically to a blockade of Venezuela.”

War

Well it is all laid out here,
Unconventional

Good ol' Hillary comes to help
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