Venezuela: Resistance or disintegration?

Well that’s precisely what I’m saying. In the interest of truth Venezuela’s role in its own demise can’t be denied, but having said that, the US is at major fault here and carries more of the blame which does not deny the destructive nature of the ideologically possessed Venezuelan government.

Thinking in nonlinear terms, what the US has done while attempting to topple the government in Caracas is to perpetuate its existence. Does that make sense? If Venezuela had been left alone, the faults of the government (which again I’m not denying) may have already been enough for its own people to realize that this was not a good direction for the country to move towards.

Exactly, and what you wrote in general is also own my perception of the situation.

Also, from the psychological perspective for the Venezuelans, this "Always having to fight an external enemy" has turned the population into feeling they are perpetual victims, which has and will continue to have catastrophic consequences for the psyche of the nation as a whole. That's where true efforts usually stop, creativity stagnates, and the same old useless tactics continue to be implemented, like a dog chasing its tail. Because a victimhood mentality informs the person and the population that there's nothing you can do, you are powerless, you have only to protect yourself for survival and that's where all the brain power goes.

I have seen the same happening in Palestine, and very often I wondered what would life be for the Palestinians if all the Israelis suddenly just upped and left. How long would it take them to get over this collective victimhood identity and start living as a resilient nation? It's a rhetorical question obviously, but the results of constant, yearlong attacks on populations have very bad consequences on so many levels. And no, Venezuela is not Palestine, I was just trying out being a bit philosophical there for a moment.
 
Thinking in nonlinear terms, what the US has done while attempting to topple the government in Caracas is to perpetuate its existence. Does that make sense? If Venezuela had been left alone, the faults of the government (which again I’m not denying) may have already been enough for its own people to realize that this was not a good direction for the country to move towards.

Sorry Alejo, I overlooked your answer. Indeed here I totally agree, US (possibly unwittingly) has done no more than sustain the Venezuelan government, confirming with each attack an essential part of the doctrine of the Revolution (the enemy is out there and it is a fierce empire that wants to strip us of everything) and one of its main axioms (resistance to imperialism has to be until the end, "homeland or death" ["patria o muerte"] !). This has ultimately been like wanting to extinguish the fire by fuelling it with large amounts of oxygen.

Also, from the psychological perspective for the Venezuelans, this "Always having to fight an external enemy" has turned the population into feeling they are perpetual victims, which has and will continue to have catastrophic consequences for the psyche of the nation as a whole. That's where true efforts usually stop, creativity stagnates, and the same old useless tactics continue to be implemented, like a dog chasing its tail. Because a victimhood mentality informs the person and the population that there's nothing you can do, you are powerless, you have only to protect yourself for survival and that's where all the brain power goes.

Yes, in fact, victimization can go to extremes where the "victim" feels he or she is "entitled" to break all laws and even not be obliged to respect the human rights of the "enemy" (and under this category can fall real enemies, as well as other fictitious ones, created by paranoia and fear).

This is a peculiarity of the human psyche that has been exploited by the US et al. countless times. The Patriot Act is an example and the endless list of all the times that the U.S. has acted outside international law on the basis of its right to defense, are just some of them. Israel is another pathological case of the perverse use of this strategy.

Leaving aside the GREAT differences that may exist between Venezuela and those mentioned above, there seem to be clues pointing to the fact that the Bolivarian Revolution has carried out in some extent the same practices (I personally do not believe that absolutely EVERY bad thing that is said about the Revolution is propaganda).
 
I really have appreciated the sharing of perspectives by so many here from Latin American countries and other nationalities. I have been disgusted and even ashamed of the behavior of the U.S. in the chaos and criminality that "my?" country continues to inflict around the world.

I don't want to divert away from the main topic of the Venezuelan struggle but I think at some point we might benefit from looking at how so many of the countries may fit into a bigger picture.

I know I am a Cs quoter. I confess. I hopefully only do this as it relates to the reality as I can see it.

I think I should start with everyone's favorite country to hate (for good reasons), the United States.

Session 21 January 1995:
Q: (T) Very true. Question: The government, our government, the U.S. government, is holding 36 craft of one kind or another that they gotten in one way or another. How many other governments have craft?

A: All is one.


Q: (L) We already have a one-world government is what they're saying. (T) Yes, they're just waiting to make it official somehow. (L) Let me ask. What is...

A: Has been so for long time, as you measure time.


Q: (L) Let me ask this one before the tape runs out and we take a break. What is the "ultimate secret" being protected by the Consortium?

A: You are not in control of yourselves, you are an experiment.
BREAK

I know the above could be more in reference to a future development but for now we could think of the implications of a "one-world government" that "Has been so for a long time, as you measure time". Also this is about "the Consortium" which we don't hear much about in MSM. We have given it many names and maybe we just file that away for future reference. I think it helps to explain why almost every country on the face of the planet has so much corruption, disinformation and confusion (just my opinion).

Also on the United States:

Session 22 February 1997:
Q: (T) Ok, let's go back to the beginning of the session, when we were talking about the acceleration/expansion on underground bases in preparation for the harvest. Is that world-wide, we're talking here?

A: Yes, but United States is focus, due to particularly cooperative power structure profile.


Q: (T) Do we want to ask about the power structure profile? (L) No, we know what that is; they agreed to work with them. But, what I would like to know is what particular steps are being taken, what particular activities are being stepped up?

A: Acquisition, staging, testing of planned activity.

Q: (L) And what is the planned activity?

A: Control of absolutely everything.

Q: (L) Well, swell! (T) That's the one world government! That's what they want! (L) OK, is there anything in particular that we can do to...

A: Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers. Awareness makes you less vulnerable, both directly and indirectly. Heard anything about synthetic blood, and blood and plasma alteration lately?

Is this going to result in a nuclear war? I don't think it will be on a large scale but there could be some feeble attempts.

Session 9 September 2000:
Q: (L) Well, considering the incredible surveillance capabilities of the U.S. government, not to mention possible alien technology, it is hardly likely that any such group would get far in such a plan. Not only that, since there is already a One World Government, and ALL nations are already under the control of the human/alien Consortium, they certainly aren't going to go around blowing up what they already own. So, any information of this kind is purely and simply disinformation designed to confuse and disrupt and distract. Is that correct?

A: Close, and one can buy "low yield" weapons from disenfranchised Russians, but do they work?

When we say United States we might want to redefine what that really may mean.

Session 5 October 1994:
Q: (Laura) Well, yes, it could be unsubstantiated rumor, we don't know that it's the Rockefellers behind Lindemann. OK, let me ask this. Is it the United States government?

A: There is no such.

Does this "United States" use psychological warfare tactics? I think that is a good possibility.

Q: (L) Did the United States government deliberately murder the Branch Davidians at Waco?

A: Close. Led them to destroy themselves.

Q: (L) How?

A: Psychological warfare tactics.

The following may have a different twist now that President Putin was not expected on the scene (at least that's my timeline hope). "If the shoe fits wear it" they say and "Noisy and boastful" sounds about right for the U.S. imperial stance.

Session 16 October 1994:
Q: (L) Does this mean that Russia and the US are secretly united?

A: Under same control.

Q: (L) Are these the Lizards?

A: At the root.

Q: (L) "His mouth was like that of a lion..." What does mouth represent and why is it like a lions?

A: Noisy and boastful.

Q: (L) Who is noisy and boastful and how is this going to manifest?

A: Economic power structure. Lion is powerful and commands attention by roaring. Who has been speaking loudly about a new world order?

Q: (L) The United States?

A: Close. Elements of same.

I will stop with these thoughts for now because I do think the discussions/exchanges you are having are important. Sometimes "the devil is in the details" as they say and you guys are doing that par excellence. And I have more more reading to catch up on too. I will never catch up to Laura but I am going give it my best (while she is writing her next book too).
 
Thank you Goyacobol. Please keep those C quotes coming. Everytime I start getting embroiled in the Details of current events I have to keep reminding myself of the C's comment about trying to see the MOSAIC. Standing back and taking an overall perspective, if that's possible. You keep me right on track. Many thanks.
 
The White House has said Maduro lost legitimacy after an election last year condemned as rigged by the United States and many other governments around the world. Mass protests are planned in Venezuela at the weekend to keep up the pressure on Maduro.

:rotfl: The pot calling the kettle black.
 
Did this General get paid off or was he against Maduro and working inside the military towards a possible Coup and is now openly showing his hand?

A high-ranking Venezuelan air force general said he had disavowed President Nicolas Maduro and now recognized opposition leader Juan Guaido as interim head-of-state, according to a video circulating on Twitter on Saturday.

February 2, 2019 - Venezuelan General recognizes opposition leader Guaido as president

Venezuelan general recognizes opposition leader Guaido as...

In the video, General Francisco Yanez, a member of the air force’s high command, called on other members of the military to defect. The high command’s web page lists him, along with a photo, as the air force’s head of strategic planning.

On its Twitter account, the high command accused the general of treason. Yanez is the first active Venezuelan general to recognize Guaido since he proclaimed himself president on Jan. 23.



Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro proposed early parliamentary elections on Saturday, seeking to shore up his crumbling rule after a senior general defected to the opposition and tens of thousands thronged the streets in protest at his government.

February 2, 2019 - As Venezuelans protest, struggling Maduro seeks early Parliament vote

As Venezuelans protest, struggling Maduro seeks early parliament vote

As domestic and international pressure on Maduro to step down mounts, a senior air force general disavowed him in a video that circulated earlier on Saturday, expressing his allegiance to parliament head and self-proclaimed interim president Juan Guaido.

The military’s support is crucial for Maduro, who is deeply unpopular, largely due to an unprecedented economic crisis that has prompted an exodus of millions. Maduro claims he is victim of a coup directed by the United States.

In a speech to supporters, Maduro said the powerful government-controlled Constituent Assembly would debate calling elections this year for the National Assembly parliament, which is opposition-controlled.

Guaido has called for a new, fair presidential election after the disputed vote won by Maduro last year.

“You want elections? You want early elections? We are going to have parliamentary elections,” Maduro told a pro-government rally in Caracas, held to commemorate the 20th anniversary of late socialist leader Hugo Chavez’s first inauguration as president.

Opposition lawmaker Armando Armas said in a statement that proposing bringing forward the parliamentary elections, which were scheduled for 2020, was just another act of provocation.

Published on Feb 2, 2019 (1:10 min.)


Jailed Citgo executives seek U.S. help to win their release
Six executives from U.S. refiner Citgo Petroleum held in a Venezuelan jail without a court hearing for more than a year have asked the U.S. State Department and lawmakers to help win their release, family members and lawyers said.

UAE's Noor Capital says it bought 3 tonnes of gold from Venezuela
Abu Dhabi investment firm Noor Capital said on Friday that it bought 3 tonnes of gold on Jan. 21 from Venezuela's central bank, at a time when President Nicolas Maduro is seeking to keep his crisis-stricken government solvent.

Colombia's Duque says Venezuelan Maduro's hours are numbered
Venezuela's dictatorship only has a short time left, Colombian President Ivan Duque said on Friday, calling for more diplomatic pressure on that nation's leader, Nicolas Maduro, to facilitate the return of democracy to the oil-producing nation.

Colombian rebel dissident leader killed in military operation
A Colombian rebel leader who refused to demobilize under a 2016 peace deal with the government was killed by the armed forces on Saturday, President Ivan Duque said.
 
He brings up some interesting "facts" about Maduro and why he'll stay in power. His outlook on Columbia is also noteworthy.

I knew Colombia wasn't clean but it appears that things are more shady then I would have guessed.
There is good info out there but it is not always easy to spot. It's hit and miss. However when the arguments make logical sense you know you have found something good.

Here is another one I spotted on ZH you will find interesting. The discussion of the Venezuelan electro process is an eye opener for me.
 
Well now, isn't THIS an eye opener? From the Latin American Herald Tribune: (Nice site. 👍) Latin American Herald Tribune - Welcome

No wonder Pence, Bolton, Pompeo and Mattis/Industrial Complex - all have a vital interest in Venezuela - it's called Blue Gold.

February 03, 2019 - Venezuela Confirms Coltan Deposits, $100 Billion in Gold Reserves
Latin American Herald Tribune - Venezuela Confirms Coltan Deposits, $100 Billion in Gold Reserves

CARACAS – The Venezuelan government has confirmed the existence of “significant” coltan deposits south of the Orinoco River, as well as proven gold reserves valued at $100 billion.


Basic Industries and Mining Minister Rodolfo Sanz told a press conference that only seven countries in the world have reserves of coltan – a valuable black mineral that combines niobite and tantalite and is used in cell phones and computer chips – in sufficient quantities for export.

Sanz said that “strategic mineral,” also known as “blue gold,” is an irreplaceable material in products such as cellular phones and electromagnetic instruments for aviation and other hi-tech industries.

“Without coltan, there are no cell phones,”
the minister said in illustrating the importance of that mineral.

Reserves of coltan and other strategic minerals were located south of the Orinoco River – in eastern Venezuela – as part of an aerial survey carried out with Iranian cooperation.

Sanz did not reveal the quantity of the coltan reserves nor their precise location, but he said that diamond, phosphate, titanium and lead deposits also were found.

He also referred to gold resources and said Venezuela has the world’s largest reserves of that precious metal after South Africa. According to the minister, Venezuela’s potential reserves total some 15,500 tons and its certified reserves are valued at some $100 billion.

Separately, Science and Technology Minister Jesse Chacon, who accompanied Sanz at Friday’s press conference, confirmed that important deposits of kaolinite have been found and are being developed with assistance from Russia.

He also said Russia will offer Venezuela the technological assistance it needs for the treatment of recently discovered uranium deposits.

Chacon, who said uranium will be used for energy production “because oil will run out,” ruled out the possibility of using that mineral for military purposes.

The minister said the idea is to use the country’s natural resources and not sell them in their raw, unprocessed form, to international clients.

“We have all the right to use our uranium for the benefit of Venezuelans and not sell it at bottom-of-the-barrel prices to the French or Americans,” Chacon said.
The minister did not give a timeframe for the development of Venezuela’s nuclear sector nor an estimate of the size of the country’s available uranium reserves.


CAIRO – A United Arab Emirates-based investment firm confirmed on Saturday that it bought nearly three tons of gold from Venezuela’s Central Bank last month.

February 03, 2019 - Emerati Firm Says It Purchased 3 Tons of Gold from Venezuela
Latin American Herald Tribune - Emerati Firm Says It Purchased 3 Tons of Gold from Venezuela

It made the announcement at a time when the South American country is experiencing an acute political crisis and top government officials and state oil company Petroleos de Venezuela (PdVSA) are under sanctions by the United States.

Abu Dhabi-based Noor Capital said in a statement on its Web site that the transaction was carried out on Jan. 21, 2019.

The deal was conducted “per international standards and laws in place as of that date,” the Emirati firm said in a statement. “Clear commercial contracts regulated the relationship between Venezuela’s Central Bank and Noor Capital.”

“Until the situation in Venezuela stabilizes, Noor Capital will refrain from any further transactions,” the statement added.

Late last year, US President Donald Trump signed an executive order that barred anyone in the US from doing business with individuals and entities involved in “corrupt or deceptive” gold sales from Venezuela.

Leftist incumbent Nicolas Maduro won a second term in office in May 2018 elections but the opposition boycotted that balloting, saying the process was fraudulent.

The political crisis in Venezuela entered a new phase when the speaker of the opposition-led National Assembly, Juan Guaido, swore in as Venezuela’s interim president on Jan. 23.

He has since been formally recognized as such by the US, several Latin American countries and the European Parliament.

On Saturday, the opposition held anti-regime rallies in Caracas and numerous other parts of Venezuela to demand, among other things, that “humanitarian aid” be allowed into the country, which is suffering from hyperinflation and severe food and medicine shortages.

Maduro has refused to accept that assistance, saying that doing so would be opening the door to a military intervention.

Meanwhile, hundreds of regime supporters gathered in downtown Caracas on Saturday to mark the 20th anniversary of the 1999 inauguration of Maduro’s political mentor and predecessor, the late Hugo Chavez.

The pro- and anti-Maduro demonstrators were not expected to cross paths.

The Venezuelan armed forces have publicly expressed support for Maduro, although in a video disseminated on Saturday an air force general, Francisco Esteban Yanez Rodriguez, said he recognizes Guaido as interim president.

He also claimed that “90 percent of the armed forces” have abandoned Maduro.
 
If the eductaion and health were not had been provided and improved, precisely to the poor, the country would had implode many years ago, I think ...

I work in university education so I think I can answer this. The government increases the number of students in basic schools during chavez time, but the quality quickly goes down in a matter of years, the teachers' wage was so low that there were schools without math, chemistry or biology teachers etc. In fact, this was a problem for us at the university that we started to note around 2010. So the degradation started a long time ago. They also created a few colleges but since the beginning those were known by its low quality. This is so, that those titles are not recognized in any part of the word. Different was the case of the old public universities where there is budgetary asphyxiation since 2005 and the quality began to decline slowly sustained by the effort of people who work practically "for love of art."

Galaxia2002, how does it cost electricity, rent, telephone, water, gas?

Because, I have the idea that perhpas many people, venezuelan or not, may think that things will be better if the country change the economic system, even though with the pseudo help from US, but I suspect that it may not be the case ... and, I am not even considering the mega problem issue of a civil war ...

Mexico salary per month = 147 US dollar
monthly bill electricity 4 dollar
telephone 6 dollar
water 5 dollar
gas (hot water/stove) 8 dollar
rent 75 dollar
apartment 2 rooms 1 bathroom, popular area
transportation montly 30 dollar
1 dollar per day, no car
---that leaves 19 dollar/30 days .63 cents for food and personal hygiene per day, is not enough either, that's why social programs need to help people out to survive ...

The economic model here is a total disaster for many reasons, the main reason IMO is that they expended more than the income assuming that the oil prices never will go down. They went into huge debt to have people live in a bubble of false happiness and populism pretending that all services were almost free, but for the same reason, they work very bad. If they had saved and used properly the money of the golden years, the actual situation will not be so bad. Even, before the sanctions, the problem was that there is a big debt with pharma, oil, agrochemical, airlines, etc, and they don't want to sell supplies and equipment at credit, and to make things worse, the sanctions started while the oil price goes down.

As I said, and to do things easy, the services are almost free. The food is at the same price as the international market average. 1 kg of meat 4 dollars, 1 kg of rice 1.6 $, 1 kg of onion 2$. So you see that the salary here is a joke. People including me are here surviving with help of our relatives that left the country to go to work outside and the other way is to earn in dollars, woking online, etc. People that don't count with that and if they are lucky, receive help once a month of a box with non-perishable food given for the government a very low cost, (all products BTW come from mexico, even when Peña Nieto ruled) but people need to complete with the proteins, vegetable, etc and not to mention other expenses.
So for a long time, social help will be needed here.
 
From Eva Bartlett's In Gaza site, she posts about the Lima Group (from RealNews). It is good to know that there are still some media press who are opposed to the Freeland LIma Group narrative, for now - soft speak.

In this, you will also hear about some of the Canadian 'gold' mining companies that are being snubbed, and that is likely a key factor. Oil for Corporate US and Gold for corporate Canada vie their handlers.

Yves Engler & Paul Jay on TRRN: “Trudeau Pushes Trump’s Regime Change in Venezuela”

“The Lima Group was formed because the governments that were critical of the Maduro government in Venezuela, because they couldn’t get resolutions through the Organization of American States.

They didn’t have the majority of votes to pass resolutions at the OAS. So they basically set up another forum to bring together governments, mostly right-wing governments, in Latin America that were critical of the Maduro government.

And Canada has played–was right there at the founding.

Canada hosted the third meeting of the Lima Group, and now is hosting a second meeting; I think the first country to host two different meetings of the Lima Group.

And this is just part, one part, of a multifaceted Canadian campaign to undermine the Maduro government in Venezuela.

That campaign includes all kinds of critical comments against the Venezuelan government; includes back in September bringing the Venezuelan government–first time ever that a member state has brought another member state to the International Criminal Court.

Canada and a couple of other governments brought Venezuela to the International Criminal Court. Canada has brought in three rounds of sanctions against Venezuela.

Canada has been funding opposition groups in Venezuela.

Canada has been pressuring Caribbean countries to join the Lima Group, to join the critical statements of the Maduro government.

And so–and then in recent–last few weeks, last couple of months, Canada has been right at the forefront in this campaign to recognize the head of the National Assembly, Juan Guaido, as the interim president, as the president of Venezuela, and completely reject the legitimacy of the Maduro government.

So the Liberal government in Canada is viewed by many as a sort of a progressive government.

But the Trudeau government in Canada has been right at the forefront of this campaign to try to undermine the Maduro government.

And you know, this is certainly what they’re looking for. My estimation is their preference would be a military coup. But there is some indication that Canada even would be fine with a foreign invasion.

In fact, when the head of the Organization of American States a few months ago sort of mused about a possible foreign invasion, the Lima Group, or 11 of the 14 members of the Lima group, criticized the head of the Organization of American States for talking about a foreign invasion.

Canada, Colombia, and Guyana were the three countries that refused to to condemn any talk of a foreign invasion.

So possibly even Canada is prepared to accept some form of military type intervention as part of this effort to get rid of the Maduro government.”

The Canadian media is sort of on two hands.

On one hand they are just following the sort of Washington-Ottawa propaganda about how, you know, Maduro’s a total dictator that needs to be overthrown. On one hand they’re doing that, and that’s the sort of bulk of the discussion.

But simultaneously they have, as Paul pointed out, the Globe and Mail and the Canadian press both run incredibly–what should be viewed as incredibly damning stories about Canada’s role in building opposition support for Guaido.

They talk about how Canada’s facilitating meetings within Venezuela, facilitating meetings internationally to try to solidify support for this recognition of the head of the National Assembly.

But the thrust of the stories are that, you know, to just present this as a positive affair that Canada is pursuing, to the point where a few of the NDP, the social democratic party, MPs, or people in that party, a couple of them have expressed criticism of Canada’s policy on Twitter, and the media has sort of pushed back against the NDP’s, in my opinion, quite mild criticism of Canadian policy.

But I do want to echo, for sure, what Paul is saying.

There’s a quote in terms of Canada’s role historically in terms of serving empire, and the fact that sometimes it’s better to have a sort of Canadian face on an intervention than a more sort of, more easily demonized U.S. face.

In his biography, Jacques Chretien, a former prime minister, says quite explicitly that he told Bill Clinton that if we just go along with you in everything, we’re just going to be perceived as a 51st state. But if we, if it looks like we have a little bit of independence, we can do more for you than the CIA can do.

And it was almost like–that’s a paraphrase, almost word for word.

So there’s just this historic kind of putting a bit of a Canada, a positive Canada cover on policies that the U.S. is pursuing around the world.

And there’s a long history of that in the hemisphere beyond the example that Paul gave with regards to Afghanistan.

In Haiti in 2004, Canada played a very important role in the overthrow of the elected government of Jean Bertrand Aristide.

And again, there was Bill Graham, the former defense minister, said in a book about about the war in Afghanistan, he said that because Canada didn’t officially join the coalition of the willing that invaded Iraq in 2003, they felt like they needed to not only go heavily into Afghanistan, but also participate significantly in the coup in Haiti.
So part of this Canadian policy in Venezuela today is about Canada’s close ties to the U.S. empire.

And Canada, in my opinion, has been quite a beneficiary.
The Canadian corporate class have been very much beneficiaries of U.S. empire for half a century.

And the mining sector in Latin America is a big force, banking sector is a big force that partly explains Canadian policy there today.”



“…Over the past two years Canadian officials have campaigned aggressively against President Nicolás Maduro. Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland has repeatedly criticized Caracas’ democratic legitimacy and human rights record. Recently she said, “the Maduro regime is now fully entrenched as a dictatorship” while in September Ottawa asked (with five South American nations) the International Criminal Court to investigate the Venezuelan government, which is the first time a government has been formally brought before the tribunal by another member.

In recent weeks Canadian diplomats have played an important role in uniting large swaths of the Venezuelan opposition behind a US-backed plan to ratchet up tensions by proclaiming the new head of the opposition-dominated National Assembly, Juan Guaido, president. The Canadian Press quoted a Canadian diplomat saying they helped Guaido “facilitate conversations with people that were out of the country and inside the country” while the Globe and Mail reported that “Freeland spoke with Juan Guaido to congratulate him on unifying opposition forces in Venezuela, two weeks before he declared himself interim president.” Alongside Washington and a number of right-leaning Latin American governments, Ottawa immediately recognized Guaido after he proclaimed himself president on Wednesday. Canadian officials are lobbying European leaders to recognize Guaido as president as well.

Ottawa has long provided various other forms of direct support to an often-violent opposition. In recent years Canada channelled millions of dollars to opposition groups in Venezuela and 18 months ago outgoing Canadian ambassador, Ben Rowswell, told the Ottawa Citizen that “we became one of the most vocal embassies in speaking out on human rights issues and encouraging Venezuelans to speak out.”

Alongside its support for the opposition, Ottawa expelled Venezuela’s top diplomat in 2017 and has imposed three rounds of sanctions on Venezuelan officials. In March the United Nations Human Rights Council condemned the economic sanctions the US, Canada and EU have adopted against Venezuela while Caracas called Canada’s move a “blatant violation of the most fundamental rules of International Law.”

Since its August 2017 founding Canada has been one of the most active members of the “Lima Group” of governments opposed to Venezuela’s elected government. Canada is hosting the next meeting of the “Lima Group”. Freeland has repeatedly prodded Caribbean and Central American countries to join the Lima Group’s anti-Maduro efforts.
In September, 11 of the 14 member states of the “Lima Group” backed a statement distancing the anti-Venezuelan alliance from “any type of action or declaration that implies military intervention” after Organization of American States chief Luis Almagro stated: “As for military intervention to overthrow the Nicolas Maduro regime, I think we should not rule out any option … diplomacy remains the first option but we can’t exclude any action.” Canada, Guyana and Colombia refused to criticize the head of the OAS’ musings about an invasion of Venezuela.

Alongside the head of the OAS, US president Donald Trump has publically discussed invading Venezuela. To the best of my knowledge Ottawa has stayed mum on Trump’s threats, which violate international law.

…Thus, while the scope of the Trudeau government’s current campaign against Venezuela is noteworthy, it’s not the first time Ottawa has supported the overthrow of an elected, left leaning, government in the hemisphere. Canada passively supported military coups against Guatemalan President Jacobo Arbenz in 1954 and Brazilian President João Goulart in 1964 as well as ‘parliamentary coups’ against Paraguayan president Fernando Lugo in 2012 and Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff in 2016. Ottawa played a slightly more active role in the removal of Dominican Republic president Juan Bosch in 1965 and Chilean president Salvador Allende in 1973. In a more substantial contribution to undermining electoral democracy, Ottawa backed the Honduran military’s removal of Manuel Zelaya in 2009.

Canada played its most forceful role in the removal of a progressive, elected, president in the hemisphere’s most impoverished nation. Thirteen months before Jean-Bertrand Aristide was, in his words, “kidnapped” by US Marines on February 29, 2004, Jean Chrétien’s Liberal government organized an international gathering to discuss overthrowing the Haitian president. JTF2 special forces secured the Port-au-Prince airport the night Aristide was ousted and 500 Canadian troops were part of the US-led invasion to consolidate the coup.

With regards to Venezuela it’s unclear just how far Ottawa is prepared to go in its bid to oust Maduro. But, it is hard to imagine that the path Canada and the US have chosen can succeed without Venezuela being plunged into significant violence.”


“I know from personal experience that Canada has been trying
to destabilize and nurture and promote the opposition in Venezuela at least from 2004
.

When Chavez was still in power, Chavez had been elected over and over again with internationally observed elections.

Everyone said the elections were clean during the Chavez period. Many people that tried to throw the elections into disrepute were invalidated.

The Carter Center legitimatized them.

I actually personally was on an election observer mission to go to polling stations in 2004, 2005, one of the elections leading up to the referendum on Chavez’s presidency.

And I went to 40 polling stations, and I interviewed opposition people in all 40 polling stations in Caracas. And I asked, have you seen any infractions? And if there were any infractions were they dealt with properly.

And I took video, and I recorded it all, and there wasn’t a single complaint from an opposition observer that there had been anything done incorrectly with those elections.

…Now, right around that time, when they were clean elections, and Chavez was getting elected over and over again, my first trip to Venezuela in 2004
My first trip to Venezuela in 2004, I was producing the big debate show on Canadian TV called Counterspin on CBC Newsworld.

I was a well-known documentary filmmaker. I had founded the Big Hot Docs! Documentary Film Festival.

So I was a known quantity in Canada. And so when I was in Venezuela, I said I’ll go say hello to the Canadian embassy. I was trying to figure out what was going on in Venezuela. I figured some Counselor would pat me on the head and say welcome to Venezuela.

No, I got the number two charged d’affaires that greeted me and brings me into a meeting room with seven members of the opposition who then for two hours beat me over the head with how corrupt the regime was, how awful it was, and so on…

What business does a Canadian embassy have with bringing a Canadian journalist into a room with opposition people, essentially trying to involve me in a conspiracy against the Venezuelan government.

So this Canadian government role in Venezuela has been very active in trying to destabilized the situation, promote and nurture the opposition.

And clearly for two reasons.

Number one, Canada is one of the biggest mining nations in the world, and Venezuela has tremendous untapped natural resources, particularly gold. And Canada has a very strong gold mining sector. And the gold was not–Canada wasn’t, Canadian companies weren’t easily getting at that gold.

…So the ability to nurture an opposition and get an in with an opposition that might come to power, and then favour Canadian mining companies, I think that’s one motivation.

And another motivation, I think, has to do with Canada’s role historically; how it plays with the United States and helps the U.S. and its foreign policy.

And I once interviewed a Canadian general in 2004, Lewis MacKenzie. And I asked him, why is Canada so into this Afghan war? You know, this Afghan, post-9/11.

It could have been dealt with as a police-type operation, in terms of going after al Qaeda. But a full-fledged invasion, full-fledged regime change. Why is Canada in this, and in it for the long haul? Because it’s 2004, after the invasion of Iraq.

And his answer was, I think, very instructive. He said, well, we didn’t go to Iraq. So to keep our ability to selling goods into the United States, we needed to pay with some blood.

We needed to send troops to Afghanistan and have some Canadian soldiers killed to show we’re willing to share the burden. He didn’t use the word empire, but that’s essentially what he was saying.

So the role of Canada assisting in very nefarious American policy, and giving it this Canadian, oh, we’re for the UN, we’re humanitarians, giving it that veneer, it’s an important role that Canada plays.

But it’s, I think, now the recognition of Guaido so exposes Canada because it’s such a clear violation of the UN Charter of non-interference in internal affairs.




 
The plot continues to unfold on schedule it seems. The Lima Group is also in lock-step with imperial U.S. goals for a coup de ta in Venezuela.

Lima Group's Declaration on Venezuela
The United States welcomes the Lima Group's leadership in addressing the deteriorating situation in Venezuela. The Lima Group's recent declaration in Toronto -- including its support for the provision of humanitarian assistance for the Venezuelan people, condemnation of electoral abuses and call for electoral reform including a new National Electoral Council, call for the release of political prisoners, and support for the democratically-elected National Assembly -- reflects the same principles and concerns underpinning the unwavering position of the United States. We welcome all efforts in support of the Venezuelan people as they struggle to secure a more democratic, peaceful, and prosperous future.

We urge others in the international community to join the Lima Group and the United States in opposing the Maduro regime's authoritarian actions, which are responsible for the worsening political, economic, and social crises facing the country and the Venezuelan people. As long as the Maduro regime conducts itself as a dictatorship, we will continue to bring the full weight of American economic and diplomatic power to bear in support of the Venezuelan people as they seek to restore their democracy.

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the sanctions started while the oil price goes down.
That's how it is done !!! Sanctions are used to destroy the economy under the pretext of "We came to help.". Price is pushed down so the pressure is even greater on the economy. Nothing more and nothing less.

Sanctions
https://www.americanforeignrelations.com/E-N/Embargoes-and-Sanctions-Cold-war-sanctions.html

In case you are not aware of this the price of oil is artificially low (same with Gold/Silver) at this time. The Markets have been (always were) manipulated initially to bring the Russians to their knees (+sanctions). It did not work but the downward pressure is maintained so as to put the other mineral rich nations in their rightful place (master-servant). Time will tell how this will end but you can be sure of one thing. If the Globalists win the vast majority of Venezuelans will lose. I don't have a crystal ball but this time the Globalists are going all out and that may get ugly. They put Qaddafi to sleep ("Welcome Mr. Qaddafi to ...") and look what they did to that country. Destroyed it and sent it back tens of years in progress. Same in Iraq. What are their plans for Venezuela? I have no clue but you can bet nothing good.

It took me years to fully realize what the Vietnamese people DID when fighting the US (all the same reasons as in case of Venezuela). Up against an overwhelming power they endured and pushed the "invader" out. Now that is some national character. Few have it.

The Cambodian people who were at no fault except to be next to Vietnam payed a HUGE price because of the what the US did in Vietnam. That karma is completely owned by the US. Millions dead so that the few would make huge profits. What was learned from this ? NOTHING. Hollywood made sure that the American People would continue to sleep. And the Majority is sleeping.

An interesting comment I read as to what else has been done against Venezuela,

Comment here on ZH about Colombian involvement in blatant and massive economic warfare by the USA on Venezuela:

"There was an interesting economic warfare being employed for a while against Venezuela, and if anything I fault them for not defensing that soon enough.

What the right wing paramilitaries did from Columbia, was go in and buy all the food and stuff from the western part of Venezuela and take it back over the border. They were financed by the US.

After a while, the Venezuelan gov't noticed that alot of currency was being taken out of the economy, because the Venezuelans went across the border and got the goods previously bought by the Colombians and now the Venezuelan money was in the hands of the Columbians. The Venezuelian gov't started to print more money. Then they Colombians working for the US flipped the script and only allowed the Venezuelans rebuying the goods in Columbia to buy them with US dollars. Flooding the Venezualan economy with their own money.

That's the major cause of the issues with food valuation and expense in Venezuela."
This is what is really happening in Venezuela.

Mind you “ .. and if anything I fault them for not defensing that soon enough .. ” is quite the proper observation for the political circles surrounding Maduro who simply demonstrate vast incompetence from within an embattled nation.

Maduro should be replaced by any capable person, which never can be the IMF imposter Juan Guaido.
 
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