visibility of the 4th density

wanderer33 said:
It is really unfortunate that the idea of service to others does not include other lifeforms.

Hi wanderer33,

Would you mind clarifying why you think that that the idea of service to others doesn't include other life forms?

Maybe I didn't understand you correctly, but as I see it, service to others includes all life forms. Assuming that we live in a service to self world, we will only see demonstrations of such. Even our attempts of service to others will, up to a certain degree, need to abide by the rules of a service to self world.

I don't know how a service to others world would look like, but I think that the dynamics of relationships between different beings would likely be very different.
 
walkingon said:
To think that you are a candidate for [4th] density above the resit is egotism...

While this does not apply for considering a possibility or estimating a probability, in the case of someone believing it (unless that someone has come so far as to both have genuinely reached that stage and objectively knowing it - which few can claim) or anticipating it, it does seem to apply, OSIT.
 
I am not sure if this was mentioned in the previous pages, it has become quite a long thread...but I do remember reading the Ra material and Ra mentions that it is 4th densities choice to not be seen do to free will implications. I will have to see if I can find the exact quote.

This makes sense to me because according to almost every book I read our ancestors were visited by higher density entities of all types, 4th and 6th density. And they were able to see them, hence the old gods. I believe this occurs up to the time period of the pyramids being built, I believe that the change in human perceptions at that time made seeing extraterrestrials turn them instantly into gods, whereas before it was commonplace and no big deal, thus the change of perception incurred free will implications, thus no more visits in the public eye anymore until such time as mass perception changes.

This also seems to correlate with what I read yesterday in a writing of Laura, where New Mexico is slowly changing to 4D due to bases there. And humans are getting into accidents because the road in 4D viewing is straight, whereas the road in 3D is curved...I don't know how that works with the individual, but the implication is a crash. This would reinforce the theory that it is the choice of the higher density to be seen or not. Although it would seem that only 4D and above get this choice.

That's my take anyways.
 

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