What do you do, when your body is in discomfort?

[vectis]

Thank you all for your support. I definitely will try this diet. For the most part I am pretty aware of my body, and sensitive to how foods affect me. My biggest internal "alarms" have been diagnosed as Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Barretts Esophagus. I rarely get acid indigestion, but the signs are a uneasy stomach, stomach aches and/or diarrhea. I refuse to take "acid pump inhibitors" (ie protonix). As long as my stomach and mood are ok, are what I use as indicators (for the most part).

I have experimented with many diets for health over the last twenty years, so I am no stranger to this "exercise" - what is really cool is that all that I am reading here DOES make sense. As it has been pointed out, it is not necessarily the tangible symptoms that cause problems. Perhaps this diet will allow me to make more sense of the intangible interactions toward "questionable" food products.

Also am still curious about what Laura calls "bile" salts, and also (what) "enzyme" as a positive supplement? Also what "probiotic" multi-vitamins have people used with success? I have searched this forum for some of these key words, but have only found reference to other threads, and have not found any source information (yet).

thanks again! I appreciate all this "food for thought"

 

[vectis]

This will be interesting, I printed some of the diet recommendations from Laura:
I will order Mark Hymans Simple Diet book. but after I went on his website and completed his little questionairre, it came back with a recommended diet plan and program that would only cost 469 bucks a month. Right!
Information overload... must keep it simple and inexpensive as possible...
Thanks again! back to review!

 

[Laura]

Thank you all for your support. I definitely will try this diet. For the most part I am pretty aware of my body, and sensitive to how foods affect me. My biggest internal "alarms" have been diagnosed as Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Barretts Esophagus. I rarely get acid indigestion, but the signs are a uneasy stomach, stomach aches and/or diarrhea. I refuse to take "acid pump inhibitors" (ie protonix). As long as my stomach and mood are ok, are what I use as indicators (for the most part).

In other words, you are saying that dairy and wheat don't bother you, yet you have just described yourself as having two of the conditions that are associated with autoimmune reactions to dairy and wheat!!!!!!!!!!!

I have experimented with many diets for health over the last twenty years, so I am no stranger to this "exercise" - what is really cool is that all that I am reading here DOES make sense. As it has been pointed out, it is not necessarily the tangible symptoms that cause problems. Perhaps this diet will allow me to make more sense of the intangible interactions toward "questionable" food products.

But you HAVE tangible symptoms!!!

Also am still curious about what Laura calls "bile" salts, and also (what) "enzyme" as a positive supplement? Also what "probiotic" multi-vitamins have people used with success? I have searched this forum for some of these key words, but have only found reference to other threads, and have not found any source information (yet).

thanks again! I appreciate all this "food for thought"

Ox bile and a good enzyme mixture such as Megazyme. Good probiotics with enteric coating are useful also. But your main problem sounds like gut permeability due to damage to the lining of the intestine by wheat/gluten/dairy. This can lead to much more serious symptoms as you age if you do not reverse it fairly quickly.

 

[vectis]

thank you Laura, I am honored and humbled by your response. I don't mean to sound like I am taking this lightly. Am doing my best to make sense of it all; on this forum is the greatest collection of helpful information I have ever found in one spot. It is a lot of information to digest (no pun intended). I'm glad to not be "sleuthing" this alone now.

Also you are correct, no doubt - I am having strange symptoms. All this information helps me pinpoint things. Dairy is virtually eliminated from my diet with the exception of cheese. Heavy dairy does mess my stomach up and affects my immune system for certain. With cheese only, I haven't noticed any symptoms. That can be easily eliminated. Yes, wheat and gluten are surprising to me, but I don't doubt it either. And I can eliminate that from my diet also.

I will work on the Ultra simple diet recommendations and also the detox diet (from the Detoxification thread). Thanks for getting me here, I certainly have my work cut out for me!

 

[Laura]

I will work on the Ultra simple diet recommendations and also the detox diet (from the Detoxification thread). Thanks for getting me here, I certainly have my work cut out for me!

I think you will be impressed with the results. The latest version of the Ultra-Simple/detox diet is posted on the EE forum here:
http://eiriu-eolas.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14

 

[Gawan]

This will be interesting, I printed some of the diet recommendations from Laura:
I will order Mark Hymans Simple Diet book. but after I went on his website and completed his little questionairre, it came back with a recommended diet plan and program that would only cost 469 bucks a month. Right!
Information overload... must keep it simple and inexpensive as possible...
Thanks again! back to review!

Hello Vectis,
you could check out also this thread Recommended Books from QFS, where the most important books are listed. For example Mark Hymans "Ultra Mind Solution" gives a great overview over many health issues: most common problems in the diet (gluten, toxins etc.), many quizzes to sort out where you have deficiencies etc., it is well researched and imo easy to read.

Anyway, the quizzies also can be found here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=11672.0


fwiw.

:)

 

[vectis]

Thanks Gawan. Have you been making progress with this? I didn't mean to hijack your thread, yet it is giving me much needed info... Hope you're doing fine. Printed off the stuff Laura suggested, and will take a look at the quiz link you suggest. thanks for the advice, it's worth a lot!
:)

 

[karo]

I second that! My blood sugar levels have never been stable, and some of my relatives have or died from diabetes. So you can imagine that I try to pain attention to this. Eating protein, fat and lots of veggies is the key. Some fruits are fine if not eaten alone all the time, and also carby veggies like sweet potatoes, carrots, etc. Luckily, buckwheat and quinoa are higher in proteins (therefore having less carbohydrates), so when you are really hungry you can used them as fillers. But I doubt you'll get very hungry. And you should test every grain first, to see if you can tolerate their lectins. Life you, brown rice is not idea for me, buy quinoa and buckwheat are fine as long as I don't abuse.

Al Today, and all those who are struggling with the diet. In case it helps you, here are a few things that I always tried to keep in mind when I first starting on the detox program:

1) This diet is not really a diet, but a life-style. You can still have pleasure at the table with a little bit of creativity. So it's not a punishment or a huge challenge, once you start seeing the benefits, and that your brain chemicals are more balanced.

2) Healthy eating can be compared and is an integral part of the Work we do here: Think of candida as your Predator. Think of alcohol, gluten, dairy, sugar and all the products that are inflammatory for you as psychopaths, the PTB, etc.

Now, when you listen to your Predator, that tells you to believe in lies or to behave in a certain way, to accept pathologicals into your life, etc, you lose a battle, and you don't grow, you can't Do, you just remain a hopeless machine. But the Predator is sneaky, and you will think it's just you who wants this or that, that it won't hurt if you manipulate just a little bit, etc.

Well, now let's replace the terms: When you listen to your candida (the cravings it generates), and accept inflammatory foods into your body, you lose a battle, you can't Do, you are in pain, you can't train your Will power, etc. But candida is sneaky (and so are all our messed up brain chemicals), so you think it's just you who wants this or that food, or that it won't hurt if you eat a little bit, etc.

So, this detox diet can be seen as a test of will. Also, as above so below. If we can't start with our bodies, how can we deal with other things?

3) This is part of the process of learning to respect yourselves. Your soul (or potential soul, higher being, etc) lives in your body! And without it, it couldn't exist. So if you care about it, you need to care about your health.

4) Some symptoms are hidden. It doesn't matter, you just do your best to prevent or not worsen autoimmune diseases, which a LOT of people have, including you, very likely. Toxins accumulate, and what you don't feel today, you WILL feel in the future. Another comparison with the external reality here: For most people democracy still exists, because the "symptoms" of a dictatorship are hidden to them. But if they look beyond themselves, if the do some research, if they question everything, and if something in them accumulates the frustration of feeling that something is not right, then, they SEE that there is a problem, and they have the power to do something about it if they want it. But they shouldn't wait too long. We shouldn't either, as concerns our health.

5) If our brain chemicals are so imbalanced, they constantly affect our emotions! So it is almost impossible to observe our emotions, to clean them, to stop being ruled by the distorted ones, if we don't deal with the neurochemicals too. In other words, this is seriously part of knowing yourselves and doing the Work, don't you think?

I hope this motivates you.

Reading this analogy was of great help to me right now. It provides me with external rational description of what may be going on in my case, point 2, 3 and 5 were particularly of most importance.
It is very awful to "hear voices" (of Candida psycho-demon?) in my head and be made to do something which is not in line with what I prefer not to do. And the message is clear here, although I struggled to understand it, defended myself to understand, or sweet-talked myself with the statement "but others can and they live"...
I still have this program running strongly and deceive myself from the problem that is - if I eat some foods which are messing up with chemicals in my body/brain - after I feel not good, overwhelmed by everything and not able to deal with simple things.
I found myself in relation to the topic of "standing in my own way" to achieve anything - I'm always looking for excuses, not feeling good enough to do anything, postponing till the "right moment" and the conclusion came - if my body/brain is in mess how can I feel "okay" to do anything?
This is a very tricky program with Food in general, because it is so deeply ingrained within us - we get food from parents to improve our mood when sick or sad, we get food to celebrate things in our life, mostly with other people companionship, some comfort ourselves with food, some eat to deal with emotions, when hungry we feel "in danger" (not on keto ) and after a meal we feel "safe" so it all intertwine with emotions and situations we prefer to be "nice" and it is really a test of will to go against this program and knowingly choose and decide what I'm putting into my body.
It was very much uplifting thread to read on the once again beginning of my 'search for improvement/balance'.
Much thank you to everybody who participate and provided information, I found it very supportive and it helped me also to reflect on my difficulties and doubts.
It is 10 years since beginning of this thread so I hope Gawan that you found your way of dealing with anything that concerned you back then :)