What's your goal?
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vectis
Jedi
interesting question to think about, and how to answer for the forum.
not to be cocky or redundant, but I really think my life goal IS to find out what the ultimate goal is.
1 - I try to live in the now, life for the moment. carpe diem.
2 - Then I plan, for the day, for the week, for the long run.
3 - short, intermediate or long term goals - I try to separate needs from wants; be proactive not reactive.
"Secret History of the World - and How to Get Out Alive" is what turned me on to LKJ and this "work" -
I want to get out alive, and be smiling and happy when that point comes.
not to be cocky or redundant, but I really think my life goal IS to find out what the ultimate goal is.
1 - I try to live in the now, life for the moment. carpe diem.
2 - Then I plan, for the day, for the week, for the long run.
3 - short, intermediate or long term goals - I try to separate needs from wants; be proactive not reactive.
"Secret History of the World - and How to Get Out Alive" is what turned me on to LKJ and this "work" -
I want to get out alive, and be smiling and happy when that point comes.
Alma.Innovadora
Dagobah Resident
My goal is to have an art school, where i can teach to drawing. That everyone can find their own technique and capture on paper, without laws or thoughts that hinder their learning. For now, I'm about to start teaching but still I lack ideas. Since the few times I've tried, people do not continue to attend, they lose interest. Whether that are busy with everyday life, or simply, was a spark of interest and as wine went. In an instant.
People have always say me that I am a Da Vinci, and i don't like be placed above others. And with the face of impossible, they tell themselves "I can not do that" and part of my teaching drawing, is to tear down that wall of "I can not" and with practice and adequate information, they may show an art, that in them exists. And they could not shape, by their own mental and social limitations.
EDIT: The objective work, is obvious, "Do what I came to do, learn" and the whole process by which have to go, for Wake up and be light.
People have always say me that I am a Da Vinci, and i don't like be placed above others. And with the face of impossible, they tell themselves "I can not do that" and part of my teaching drawing, is to tear down that wall of "I can not" and with practice and adequate information, they may show an art, that in them exists. And they could not shape, by their own mental and social limitations.
EDIT: The objective work, is obvious, "Do what I came to do, learn" and the whole process by which have to go, for Wake up and be light.
zhenqing
Jedi
1) To disentangle my personality from my Self, like TheManyShadesOfJo nicely put.
2) To uncover the truth about what made me who I am (my Personality).
3) To find and get rid of negative Karmic influences.
4) To learn how to see objective reality.
5) To truly love another being and always have their best interest in mind.
6) To stay healthy
7) Find a job.
2) To uncover the truth about what made me who I am (my Personality).
3) To find and get rid of negative Karmic influences.
4) To learn how to see objective reality.
5) To truly love another being and always have their best interest in mind.
6) To stay healthy
7) Find a job.
Psalehesost
The Living Force
To destroy everything in me that is False, that I may become Real.
And manage this 3D life and Do something while here.
And manage this 3D life and Do something while here.
luke wilson
The Living Force
To become Free.
Free from the illusions and the predators mind.
To hopefully see the world and the universe objectively at some point.
Then to learn how to ACT instead of REACTING.
If possible to see man attain his freedom from the controllers of our world and our minds. This last point might be abit of wishful thinking.
Free from the illusions and the predators mind.
To hopefully see the world and the universe objectively at some point.
Then to learn how to ACT instead of REACTING.
If possible to see man attain his freedom from the controllers of our world and our minds. This last point might be abit of wishful thinking.
SolarMother
Dagobah Resident
To make it out alive and awake, arriving much closer to HOME...prepared for battle or maybe a celebration!
Pippi
The Force is Strong With This One
Wow, very interesting question that has been central to me in periods throughout my life, and "forgotten" other periods. Interesting that some of Ark's journal entries are spaced a year apart – as a spiral that passes the same question regularly but seeing it from a slightly different angle.
Many interesting entries and I'm glad I took the time to read the whole thread through! Thank you for sharing!
I was particularly touched by 2 entries:
1) by Ark
I'm in that danger right now. Reading your goals and thoughts, I realise that since I started living a "happy life", with all the material and emotional comfort I could wish for, I am less in line with my own goal and easily becomes sidetracked.
My goal is to create a space for growth, where friends and friends of friends can come and take a break to rediscover their dream, their goal, their meaning of life, and get inspiration and maybe some tools to start to do their Work. For now, my idea of that space is that it would be a permaculture farm, and maybe school, to teach how to live lightly on the land and restore the relationship to the wild. Those who would come to spend time with us on the farm would be required to work the land with us, both to provide the basics for survival (food, fibre, fuel) and to restore wild ecosystems. So right now, my short term goal is to learn how to realise this.
2)
I really see Daco's point of wanting to work with other people in everyday life. To me, this is linked with the "danger of a happy life" : whenever I'm in an environment that doesn't push me towards questioning or inspire creativity, and when I cannot talk and interact with people around me on the questions of consciousness and awareness rising, I tend to go slack, or frustrated and lonely. From my experience, my biggest leaps of understanding and my most creative and aware periods in life has been when I've been in pretty hard situations (either emotionally or physically or both) AND surrounded by people with at least the same level of understanding/awareness. I don't like the idea of having one teacher, as in Zen practice (though I do practice Zen from time to time), but being in a group in daily life cannot be supplanted by an on line forum, even when it is as good as this! Each person in the group, striving in hirs own way to understand hermself and the world better, helps all others, so that the group's total consciousness is more than the sum of the parts. And the more communication is going on, the better!
If I was suddenly awake... It depends on how I define awake.
1) Awake = a much deeper understanding of the world, but still in 3D STS : I would probably go forth with the idea of the farm and supporting "dreaming slippers" to wake up, and newly "awakened" to see more and more clearly, while lessening the negative impact of my participation in the industrial civilisation by restoring what can be restored.
2) Awake = existing in 4D : oh wow, I think I'd have an immense pleasure in the possibility of direct communication without language barriers!!! And set out helping permaculture designers and the like (anyone doing some good sto work in 3d really!) to get their work done as smoothly as possible, help their understanding of sts & psychopathy.
Thanks for making me think over my goals again, Ark. It is helpful.
Many interesting entries and I'm glad I took the time to read the whole thread through! Thank you for sharing!
I was particularly touched by 2 entries:
1) by Ark
I'm in that danger right now. Reading your goals and thoughts, I realise that since I started living a "happy life", with all the material and emotional comfort I could wish for, I am less in line with my own goal and easily becomes sidetracked.
My goal is to create a space for growth, where friends and friends of friends can come and take a break to rediscover their dream, their goal, their meaning of life, and get inspiration and maybe some tools to start to do their Work. For now, my idea of that space is that it would be a permaculture farm, and maybe school, to teach how to live lightly on the land and restore the relationship to the wild. Those who would come to spend time with us on the farm would be required to work the land with us, both to provide the basics for survival (food, fibre, fuel) and to restore wild ecosystems. So right now, my short term goal is to learn how to realise this.
2)
daco said:
I really see Daco's point of wanting to work with other people in everyday life. To me, this is linked with the "danger of a happy life" : whenever I'm in an environment that doesn't push me towards questioning or inspire creativity, and when I cannot talk and interact with people around me on the questions of consciousness and awareness rising, I tend to go slack, or frustrated and lonely. From my experience, my biggest leaps of understanding and my most creative and aware periods in life has been when I've been in pretty hard situations (either emotionally or physically or both) AND surrounded by people with at least the same level of understanding/awareness. I don't like the idea of having one teacher, as in Zen practice (though I do practice Zen from time to time), but being in a group in daily life cannot be supplanted by an on line forum, even when it is as good as this! Each person in the group, striving in hirs own way to understand hermself and the world better, helps all others, so that the group's total consciousness is more than the sum of the parts. And the more communication is going on, the better!
If I was suddenly awake... It depends on how I define awake.
1) Awake = a much deeper understanding of the world, but still in 3D STS : I would probably go forth with the idea of the farm and supporting "dreaming slippers" to wake up, and newly "awakened" to see more and more clearly, while lessening the negative impact of my participation in the industrial civilisation by restoring what can be restored.
2) Awake = existing in 4D : oh wow, I think I'd have an immense pleasure in the possibility of direct communication without language barriers!!! And set out helping permaculture designers and the like (anyone doing some good sto work in 3d really!) to get their work done as smoothly as possible, help their understanding of sts & psychopathy.
Thanks for making me think over my goals again, Ark. It is helpful.
Sasha said:
During last several days I had some realizations that made me reconsider what I wrote here previously.
The painful one was realizing that I'm full of crap and thought that emerged during that state was "Horrible!". Day after, depression hit me big time, but it's gone now and what is left is that realization and a strong urge to change the situation.
Seeing myself more and more as a machine that I am, having very little if any influence on workings of that machine which is almost completely (probably without 'almost') under control of external influences I realized that my first and most important goal at this point should be to become master of myself.
I'm dedicating all that I have and all that I am now to learn about my machine as much as possible. I know that that process will ultimately lead me to be able to DO anything, to really WANT something and to BE free of this prison where I'm now.
Bluebird
The Force is Strong With This One
This seems a question elegant in its simplicity and in a sense quite profound, after all our whole reason for living our current life is to achieve our goals so the question encapsulates our whole life purpose.
But how to achieve our stated goals, it seems to me if we focus on our goals we are unlikely to achieve them, instead we should focus on the actions which result in achieving our goals which I think is a somewhat different thing.
Using the metaphor of sport the goal is to win the game. Leaving aside the seemingly obvious conclusion that winning in sport is a very STS oriented goal since the idea is to defeat someone else for ones own satisfaction.
In order to win one at one of the various forms of team sport one cannot focus on the fact of winning but must instead focus on acquiring the ball, tackling opponents, passing to team mates and scoring oneself or assisting others to score. The outcome follows from focusing on and following the actions which are designed to achieve the goal. There is of course no guarantee in competitive sport that winning will result.
Presumably there is also no guarantee of achieving our life goals, but having figured out our goals if we then focus on the actions which logically will result in the desired outcome of achievement then we must surely stand a good chance of success.
But how to achieve our stated goals, it seems to me if we focus on our goals we are unlikely to achieve them, instead we should focus on the actions which result in achieving our goals which I think is a somewhat different thing.
Using the metaphor of sport the goal is to win the game. Leaving aside the seemingly obvious conclusion that winning in sport is a very STS oriented goal since the idea is to defeat someone else for ones own satisfaction.
In order to win one at one of the various forms of team sport one cannot focus on the fact of winning but must instead focus on acquiring the ball, tackling opponents, passing to team mates and scoring oneself or assisting others to score. The outcome follows from focusing on and following the actions which are designed to achieve the goal. There is of course no guarantee in competitive sport that winning will result.
Presumably there is also no guarantee of achieving our life goals, but having figured out our goals if we then focus on the actions which logically will result in the desired outcome of achievement then we must surely stand a good chance of success.
svjetlonosa
Padawan Learner
What is my goal?
The answer depends on which „I“ answers, personality or essence.
ISOTM
The answer depends on which „I“ answers, personality or essence.
ISOTM
Knowing that current “I” is a mixture of both personality and essence, the goal is acceptance and implementation of knowledge and understanding of lessons to be learnt in this reality now and here, supposedly of the STO type.
