WhatsApp, Facebook and Instagram are down

seek10

The Living Force
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FWIW, an article by Kit Knightly at Off-Guardian on this subject. :-)

Some times, things do go wrong in during technology maintenance and may need downtime. With the reach Facebook had, its impact is large. We had a saying "No news is good news" at our work. As long as things are working, they are taken for granted and when things doesn't go well, hell breaks lose and we have to answer to million questions.

But other factors like this testimony smells entire episode bad. It does look like another fake story.
Much of the time any mooted “regulation” is not aimed at the corporate giants, who have the connections and resources to survive it, but their smaller competitors. In that way it both secures the monopoly of a handful of gigantic businesses, and further centralises the power of the state.

Remember that corporate giants and the Deep State are not in opposition to one another, they work together in mutual self-interest.

Facebook might be notionally in the media crosshairs, but that is a pantomime. The real targets are alternate platforms like Telegram, Gab and Parler, or as yet unborn independent outlets.

More broadly, it’s part of an ongoing campaign against the ability of millions of people to freely communicate with each other, because that is a genuine threat to both the power of the state the and greed of corporate monoliths.

So, when big government and big tech fight, refuse to pick a side and don’t believe a word of it.

They like each other really, but they hate you.
 

Tycho

Jedi Master
From an IC insider :-

The Facebook situation is entirely manufactured. The US Gov is attempting to commandeer their ability to censor you, not stop it.
The "urgency" around the Facebook situation tells you that the US Gov and IC understand they have a substantial risk of failure elsewhere.
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It is an indication that they are seeking alternate roads in order to accomplish their goal of stealing your rights and liberties.
Reporters and people already recognize this and are raising red flags all over the place.

Then a series of similar "blackouts" are to follow. And as FB ridiculed itself with the explanation i doubt this the theory that this is a move to censor "the internet". IMO either the offical, leaked information about the BGP session establishment failuer etc. is true or it had been an external attack.
 

Pecha

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Trump's Facebook was supposed to be down for another year, but it's up now?


Can anyone confirm if it came back up after the outage?
 

Sebastian

The Force is Strong With This One
It seems like an awful coincidence that this happened just after this whole whistleblower situation began. I wander if this is not one of those “internal” disputes between the powers that be and big tech. This incident could be at least in part a warning shot at Facebook, a reminder of who is really running the show and that the greater agenda will always take precedence over the internal agenda of Mark Zuckerberg and his company.

In terms of this whistleblower it could pertain to Facebook’s supposed lack of effectiveness in countering “misinformation” on their platform, although it could also simply be another part of the game, encouraging the public to buy into the idea that Facebook is somehow Independen from the power system and not just another piece on the board.

But the fact that out of the blue this “whistleblower” is given extensive coverage on all the major news outlets suggests a concerted agenda, especially with the emphasis being placed on the “harms of misinformation” even though many of the other allegations are more substantiated and have more serious connotations in relation to the platforms management and to user's wellbeing. It almost seems as though they simply added these allegation in to add emotional weight to point on “misinformation”.

It could potentially be a ploy to lay the ground for a more rigorous censorship campaign allowing the state to become more directly involved with the internal governance of big tech platforms such as Facebook and Twitter (further moving in the direction of a unified power system), which despite the heavy censorship still harbours many critics of the current global situation, whether out of choice or simply due to the complexity of the algorithms needed to differentiate between desirable and undesirable content.

Jen Psaki has made it clear that they wish to work closer with these tech giants to improve blanket censorship especially in regard to the so called “misinformation dozen”, and I get the feeling they're not getting the sort of results they are after.

I suspect that they anticipated they would have a more stable control of the narrative at this point. Although the vast majority of people are completely unaware of the true implication of the current situation, there seems to be a substantial minority who are beginning to get uncomfortable with the illogical restrictions and demands being placed on them. And although most of them will probably get swept back up when things truly begin to heat up, it is probably creating more unrest and resistance than they want to handle, at least for now.
 

Navigator

The Living Force
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This outage revealed to a lot of people just how dependent some of us are of these platforms for income, so we could accept whatever changes they do to those apps, right? As long as they keep existing.

So, could be then that the central issue here is more control of the flow of information, and FB is just the vehicle to implement regulation that could make it punishable to disseminate any information against an official narrative, even outside of Big Tech.

They are desperate and want absolute control of everything.
 

seek10

The Living Force
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Trump's Facebook was supposed to be down for another year, but it's up now?


Can anyone confirm if it came back up after the outage?
It's up , but no activity since they shut it on Jan 6. May be a technical mistake or deliberate or facebook warning. We don't know yet. If he starts posting something, PTB will go bonkers again (There are LOT more disgruntled people due to covid nonsense), it will be entertaining to watch. any way, they will shut him again, if he starts posting. All this facebook thing is a circus.
 

Pecha

Jedi Master
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It's up , but no activity since they shut it on Jan 6. May be a technical mistake or deliberate or facebook warning. We don't know yet. If he starts posting something, PTB will go bonkers again (There are LOT more disgruntled people due to covid nonsense), it will be entertaining to watch. any way, they will shut him again, if he starts posting. All this facebook thing is a circus.

It is indeed strange that Trump's Facebook page magically got unbanned after the outage, and now there is the fake Facebook whistleblower rallying for more censorship on the platform. A strange message from the universe indeed (or just coincidence, take your pick :lol:)
 

Tycho

Jedi Master
It is indeed strange that Trump's Facebook page magically got unbanned after the outage, and now there is the fake Facebook whistleblower rallying for more censorship on the platform. A strange message from the universe indeed (or just coincidence, take your pick :lol:)

Some poeple say it never had been removed it just "got frozen". No postings allowed....
 

Keit

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It seems like an awful coincidence that this happened just after this whole whistleblower situation began. I wander if this is not one of those “internal” disputes between the powers that be and big tech.
The other day I listened to Khazin, Russian economist, and he presented a similar theory. That the power behind the "bankers" showed Facebook (that is part of the young and growing "bigtech" elite) who's the real boss. That apparently despite Facebook "toeing the party line", the PTB want even greater control, and for the bigtech elite not to have any illusions that their money can buy power that the "bankers" have.

According to Khazin's speculation it was NSA who "pulled the plug". And that's why Facebook didn't blame outside sources, but blamed it on inner blunter. That's his theory anyway.
 

Michael B-C

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An insightful deep dive into the varied issues that connect the travails at Facebook with the wider agenda - not control of Facebook per se but total control of access to the internet itself. This is all part of the build up of narrative connected to an end to anonymity as a result of a cascading Cyber-Polygon-cyber-war on the population that leads the exhausted populous to beg for the solution to the problem-reaction, namely limited access via digital passport IDs.

Whitney Webb Interview – Facebook “Whistleblower”, Ending Anonymity & Moderna’s Hail Mary

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Voyageur

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This is all part of the build up of narrative connected to an end to anonymity as a result of a cascading Cyber-Polygon-cyber-war on the population that leads the exhausted populous to beg for the solution to the problem-reaction, namely limited access via digital passport IDs.
Yes, as Whitney says, a "drivers licence for the internet" is down the road around the next corner, with the hardware and software already in hand.

Societies being driven to new internet drivers schools for control of the mind, with private and public partnerships, and systems and rules for thee and not for me.

As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose--that it may violate property instead of protecting it--then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder.
― Frederic Bastiat
 
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