I'd like to chime in also and thank Huxley for starting this topic and everyone else who has contributed. This thread appeared at a conspicuous time for me, because I have been going through a cycle of fear about participating on the forum. I tend to run away for a while when the dissociative buttons get pressed by life, and all sorts of thought loops will play through, dissuading me from posting, even after I've read about why it is better to post. It is helpful to see that I'm not alone in this. It's the repeated and consistent effort that counts. (Not to say I'm so great at that, but it's worth working at!)
In addition, I am extremely thankful for the following exchange:
Part of my point in bringing this up is that it is only because of this thread that I've found this book, which is helping me answer a personally important question, while the thread itself has proven helpful along a different line. It's really not possible to predict the potential benefits of making a "risky" post.
To sum things up, a quote from Gurdjieff's 82:
In addition, I am extremely thankful for the following exchange:
I've really been concerned that I wasn't getting the most out of what I've been reading on the forum, SOTT, etc. After buying a copy of this book and beginning to read (more actively than usual, taking notes - may as well put the book's advice into practice right off the bat, right?), I've already had a few insights that may prove helpful. I think this book will help me get out of "schoolkid" mode when it comes to learning.Anthony said:patty2292 said:obyvatel said:Here is one way of participating as you are reading the material which may be of help to others as well. When you feel like you need more clarification on some point or have some insight to share about the material you are reading, use the search function to locate forum threads where the topic has been brought up in the past and post your question or comment there. You may "resurrect" old threads with valuable info which others may have forgotten about or could use a refresher on. You may have raised a question which others had but were too shy or lazy to ask. Given the complex nature of many topics discussed here, it is often helpful to look at things periodically with fresh eyes to improve understanding - at least that has been my experience.
Of course feel free to start a thread if the topic you are asking or sharing about has not come up in the forum search engine.
The reply is most welcomed Obyvatel!
Ive done that on the odd occasion in the past, and i do find alot of my books via the threads and recommendations on the forum - but i do need to make a more conscious effort to my reading/learning. If i did not grasp something within the book, i just lazily ignore it and keep going. My lazy self thinks that it would take to long to search for some more info and explanation, and then to re-read.
I have put several books down because i could not fully follow, or as i see it more clearly now - i did not understand .
Thank you for making that point clear to me. Again my ego is always in a rush to get to the end of a book to cross it off the list. But whats the point if ive not even took any of it in !!!
I can relate to this and reading How to Read a Book by Mortimer J. Adler helped a lot.
In short, he explains that such reading is elementary, effort is required if we really want
achieve understanding. I've also noticed that when you apply effort during reading, it leaves
a more lasting impression.
Part of my point in bringing this up is that it is only because of this thread that I've found this book, which is helping me answer a personally important question, while the thread itself has proven helpful along a different line. It's really not possible to predict the potential benefits of making a "risky" post.
To sum things up, a quote from Gurdjieff's 82:
74. If you are hesitating between doing and not doing, take the risk of doing.