Will Smith's altercation at the Oscars
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Think he does do a good job. He captures many nuances of he body and mind as it becomes keyed, involuntary adapts and then acts.
My guess is if this was planned/rehearsed, this would not be happening:
Academy Starts Disciplinary Proceedings Against Will Smith, Expulsion on the Table
Will Smith faces possible expulsion from the Academy of Motion Pictures after assaulting Chris Rock. Oscars claim he refused to leave.variety.com
Yeah, I think what we're all missing here is that the individuals involved are pretty fake people in general. It's entirely possible that Smith went up there to "make a scene" and was "faking it" in the sense that he was not genuine in his "outrage". He was intensely aware (in a manipulative way) of what he was doing and carried out the act in a 'for show' kind of way (soft slap). Rock, likewise, responded in kind. The Academy then seizes the opportunity to 'do the right thing' and virtue signal by considering expelling him. The whole thing is 'fake' in the sense that normal people project their own, more genuine, feelings on to it, unaware of just how manufactured for public consumption these people's lives are.
For some reason it's never clearer to me how much of a glamour TV casts on us, then when one of these kinds of awards shows is on.. I like films, even trashy action films! But never got why anyone would watch a film awards show.. (I guess many industries like to give themselves awards.. it's fine..)... But I think it's interesting how easy it is (for me, at least) to get caught up in it, if I'm exposed to it, specifically if the SOUND on the TV is on. When the sound is on, even though I have no interest in the thing, it's so easy to feel like something important is happening, even while actively aware that it's not.....Maybe I'm just too suggestible... Someone in my house was watching this Will Smith thing as I walked past and I stopped to watch! Then later, when it was being shown again (for the hundredth time) I was listening to music on headphones and couldn't hear the TV, only see it... and looking at that room full of people, their faces and apparent reactions, it was immediately clear again how tawdry, small and empty it all was.. Kind of grubby feeling... Somehow, without the audio, most of the glitz fades away for me...
I've seen a few people in this thread bemoaning the fact that they're spending time on this topic..(me too :)).. I guess it's normal to feel sort of like we "know" famous people who we've been seeing in films for years, so stuff that happens to them catches our attention...and stuff to do with hollywood and oscars etc often feels somehow symbolic of wider matters... weird.
I don't have a point with any of this, just find it sort of interesting... like how much has the movie industry *twisted* the world in the last 100 years or so? (Remember that "Inside the L.C." series of articles by Dave McGowan, about the early film/music industries and birth of the hippie generation? After awhile it seemed like pattern recognition gone haywire to me, but still very interesting & creepy!)
edit: here's an old thread about "Inside the L.C.": Inside the Laurel Canyon...
I've seen a few people in this thread bemoaning the fact that they're spending time on this topic..(me too :)).. I guess it's normal to feel sort of like we "know" famous people who we've been seeing in films for years, so stuff that happens to them catches our attention...and stuff to do with hollywood and oscars etc often feels somehow symbolic of wider matters... weird.
I don't have a point with any of this, just find it sort of interesting... like how much has the movie industry *twisted* the world in the last 100 years or so? (Remember that "Inside the L.C." series of articles by Dave McGowan, about the early film/music industries and birth of the hippie generation? After awhile it seemed like pattern recognition gone haywire to me, but still very interesting & creepy!)
edit: here's an old thread about "Inside the L.C.": Inside the Laurel Canyon...
dmnlksm
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We can talk about 3-4 reasons for a black man to slap another black man.
1-The USA says: Look, there is no discrimination in our country. Blacks present the OSCAR ceremonies and win awards.
2- Despite this, it is black people who cause problems and resort to violence.
3- The one who apologizes and cries is still a black person, but it's okay, we welcome him with maturity and we are on the high side.
4-We are making OSCAR ceremonies popular again, we know the ceremonies lost popularity.
1-The USA says: Look, there is no discrimination in our country. Blacks present the OSCAR ceremonies and win awards.
2- Despite this, it is black people who cause problems and resort to violence.
3- The one who apologizes and cries is still a black person, but it's okay, we welcome him with maturity and we are on the high side.
4-We are making OSCAR ceremonies popular again, we know the ceremonies lost popularity.
Eulenspiegel
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I find it incredible that with all the issues on Earth, people can be so pre-occupied with one actor slapping a stand-up comedian on a self-congratulatory event night for the super rich.
Artex
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Rock addressed it briefly at his show last night and says he's still processing what happened, so it's pretty clear at this point it was not fake. And as was to be expected, someone in the crowd started harassing/heckling him and had to be escorted out by security. Rock questioned whether the guy was going to shoot him. There is video of the heckler fighting with security after he was removed from the building.
I'm with you on this. Look at it, form an informed opinion, and move on. It's not worth the energy.
Another take on this 'drama'! 
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My reaction was "I don't really care" but given the thread is now 9 pages long, I'll develop an opinion.
Chris Rock's lack of reflexive action to protect his face / head, read the expression and intention on Will's face as he was walking towards him is strange. He must have been so confident in his safety that it completely disarmed all the parts in his brain that would anticipate what Will was about to do especially given he was walking towards him just after he made fun of his wife.
Real or not, it doesn't matter really. It was only a slap.
Will Smith though needs to look in the mirror and realise he had a very public melt down. His wife kind of walks away feeling empowered though.
Chris Rock's image is intact really and he will be somewhat rejuvenated in his career. He looks good for 57?
Chris Rock's lack of reflexive action to protect his face / head, read the expression and intention on Will's face as he was walking towards him is strange. He must have been so confident in his safety that it completely disarmed all the parts in his brain that would anticipate what Will was about to do especially given he was walking towards him just after he made fun of his wife.
Real or not, it doesn't matter really. It was only a slap.
Will Smith though needs to look in the mirror and realise he had a very public melt down. His wife kind of walks away feeling empowered though.
Chris Rock's image is intact really and he will be somewhat rejuvenated in his career. He looks good for 57?
I was wondering if this is an example of the degenerative affects of the wave on the sleeple.
I also heard that rock, paper, scissor has been changed to rock, slap, scissor.
candasiri
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Definitely it seemed that it was contrived, but why? I would not imagine that the Oscars would allow it without some knowledge of what was going to happen. It was definitely for more than publicity for both. Maybe all those twisted peeps at the top of Pedowood are letting Will and Chris into the upper echelons elite Hollywood club:
Don't really seem like enemies here:
History of the slap from Babylonia:
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Bring In The New Year By Slapping The King
This may be too conspiratorial, but it may not if you think of all the satanic/cultish/masonic/whatever symbolism involved in the half-time musical performances during the Superbowl. I believe that during the Oscars was some sort of subliminal programming about "toxic masculinity," "gender-fluidity" and "open marriages work."
You may want to fast-forward the numerology on this
ALL THE WORLD IS A STAGE WILL & JEDA SATANIC HUMILIATION RITUAL FAKE SLAP SMOAKPIPE SESSIONS
After 2 years of muzzling all of with masks, you can't tell me that these psychos are not into ritual symbolism of domination and submission. But they are at 4/10 of controlling the world so whatever. Love the Cs!
Don't really seem like enemies here:
History of the slap from Babylonia:
WILL SMITH CHRIS ROCK FACE SLAP ANCIENT BABYLONIAN MESOPOTAMIA AKITU HUMILIATION RITUAL
A ROOM FILL WITH ACTORS JUST FOOLED THE WORLD WITH THEIR BABYLONIAN RITUAL NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN
www.bitchute.com
Bring In The New Year By Slapping The King
This may be too conspiratorial, but it may not if you think of all the satanic/cultish/masonic/whatever symbolism involved in the half-time musical performances during the Superbowl. I believe that during the Oscars was some sort of subliminal programming about "toxic masculinity," "gender-fluidity" and "open marriages work."
You may want to fast-forward the numerology on this
ALL THE WORLD IS A STAGE WILL & JEDA SATANIC HUMILIATION RITUAL FAKE SLAP SMOAKPIPE SESSIONSAfter 2 years of muzzling all of with masks, you can't tell me that these psychos are not into ritual symbolism of domination and submission. But they are at 4/10 of controlling the world so whatever. Love the Cs!
Mikha'El
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Personally, I feel that there are a lot of lessons that can be learned from this incident.
Lessons about the state of mind of those in the limelight, the state of mind of the media (mainstream or not) and the state of mind of all of us who witnessed this violent act. Also, where is the Rule of Law in this one?
I don't think it is important to spend time figuring out why WS decided on this course of action but more important to gauge the reactions of those who witnessed this and what it means for the moral/ethical makeup of the West.
Essentially, we witnessed a man assault another man during a televised event. The action, so far, has presented no repercussions to either of those involved and it is absolutely amazing to me that no disciplinary action was taken at the time that this occurred.
Lessons about the state of mind of those in the limelight, the state of mind of the media (mainstream or not) and the state of mind of all of us who witnessed this violent act. Also, where is the Rule of Law in this one?
I don't think it is important to spend time figuring out why WS decided on this course of action but more important to gauge the reactions of those who witnessed this and what it means for the moral/ethical makeup of the West.
Essentially, we witnessed a man assault another man during a televised event. The action, so far, has presented no repercussions to either of those involved and it is absolutely amazing to me that no disciplinary action was taken at the time that this occurred.
siftingmaterials
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There is certainly something deeper to mine here than simply a celebrity in crisis. Some have mentioned that Smith has hit people before. There's a video on youtube from 10 years ago where a reporter lands a kiss on his cheek without consent and Will's response is to backhand slap him.
Here's an article that quotes his memoir. In it, he says his biggest regret is that, as a child, he didn't act to protect his mother from his father's violent attack. He watched his dad punch his mom and immediately blamed himself. He displaces a traumatic relational fixation with his violent father onto others who trigger his defensiveness. When it happens, he regresses and reacts from that place of childhood helplessness, driven by guilt. In doing so, he actually resembles his father (hitting, aiming for the head). He's no longer the child, he's the adult. He will retaliate violently to teach you: Wake up. What's wrong with you? This hit's for you, dummie.
I expect this is unlikely to be some sort of contemporary degenerative phenomena. This is extremely well-documented behaviour in psychoanalytics and is an innate possibility for us all. In addition to displacement and regression, Will also shows us denial and rationalization. Denial, in the sense that he has ignored the root cause (an emotional problem) of this pattern of violence (a physical solution). Rationalization, in the sense that he tells himself this behaviour is needed to affirm his identity as a protector rather than a coward.
This is all too human, I'm afraid, and very unlikely to be a staged assault. It is a performance, in a way. In the way that we all live out the consequences of childhood trauma in our deep, heuristic reactions to the world and the people around us (sometimes to their utter confusion).
Here's an article that quotes his memoir. In it, he says his biggest regret is that, as a child, he didn't act to protect his mother from his father's violent attack. He watched his dad punch his mom and immediately blamed himself. He displaces a traumatic relational fixation with his violent father onto others who trigger his defensiveness. When it happens, he regresses and reacts from that place of childhood helplessness, driven by guilt. In doing so, he actually resembles his father (hitting, aiming for the head). He's no longer the child, he's the adult. He will retaliate violently to teach you: Wake up. What's wrong with you? This hit's for you, dummie.
I expect this is unlikely to be some sort of contemporary degenerative phenomena. This is extremely well-documented behaviour in psychoanalytics and is an innate possibility for us all. In addition to displacement and regression, Will also shows us denial and rationalization. Denial, in the sense that he has ignored the root cause (an emotional problem) of this pattern of violence (a physical solution). Rationalization, in the sense that he tells himself this behaviour is needed to affirm his identity as a protector rather than a coward.
This is all too human, I'm afraid, and very unlikely to be a staged assault. It is a performance, in a way. In the way that we all live out the consequences of childhood trauma in our deep, heuristic reactions to the world and the people around us (sometimes to their utter confusion).
