Iodine and Potassium Iodide

I don't know how much corn starch is in that product, but I have mixed iodine with corn starch and that was a very bad combination. It burned my stomach lining. I think it's very caustic. It is what I call a purple iodine.

A blue iodine, which I created by mixing with a potato starch, is on the other hand a good thing. I don't know about US, but you can find it is some countries. Maybe they can send it to US. Of course, Russia is now under sanctions, so that option is not available.

One example of blue iodine: Blue Iodine, muxture of iodine, succinic acid and vitamin PP, 30 ml
 
It seems that perhaps you can buy blue iodine from Russia:

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As you can see, it's blue:

Iodinol children: instructions for use for gargling for children: how to dilute, spray

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Persej said:
I don't know how much corn starch is in that product, but I have mixed iodine with corn starch and that was a very bad combination. It burned my stomach lining. I think it's very caustic. It is what I call a purple iodine.

A blue iodine, which I created by mixing with a potato starch, is on the other hand a good thing. I don't know about US, but you can find it is some countries. Maybe they can send it to US. Of course, Russia is now under sanctions, so that option is not available.

One example of blue iodine: Blue Iodine, muxture of iodine, succinic acid and vitamin PP, 30 ml
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I need Lugol's in a solid form. The liquid form does not resolve the issue.
 
Great question , alchemists were great tricksters , even while telling truths XD , even as "magnetism" affects everything so you might just be onto to something , for example vis-a-vis waters , but going "so far " might as well include the people doing it ? ( fwiiw / blah )
 
Tauriel said:
It took me quite long to write this post.
I started taking iodine in February after lots of reading.
First of all many thanks to all the forum members who contributed to this thread. It has been the greatest learning tool.

I suffered from a varied collection of chronic conditions as so many human beings, some from early on in my life and others that developed over the years and it seemed as if one placed itself on top of the other and so on, so in order of appearance:
- recurring candida infections since my teenage years. I don't know how many kilos of antifungal cremes I've applied in my life.
- recurring herpes infections. Much later I learned that candida triggers herpes and vice versa. They live a happy companionship.
- 2012 fibromyalgia
- various back related problems
- hayfever
- lately guttate psoriasis
- menopause issues
Some years ago I began with daily exercises plus stretching for my back and to keep the fibromyalgia in check.
About a year ago I started to take MSM. It helped immensly with pain and stiffness. After a while I was up to 16g of MSM daily and since MSM also detoxes the body I might have done a good load of detox before even starting with iodine.

I take all the accompanying supplements- salt, Vit C, selen, magnesia, vit B2, B3 in the recommended doses plus vit D3.
The times I'm taking my supplements are unorthodox since my circadian rhythm is as well but I always take vitC away from iodine.
Higher doses of iodine I take with milk or oat milk.

I started the protocol:
February- 1 drop Lugol's 5% and went up to 8 drops (50mg) in the run of 2 weeks.

I had some mild reactions like feeling 'super awake', 'super tired', mild diarrhea, slight headaches, eyes twitching, neck pain, some itchiness, mental alertness, running nose....
Nothing serious but I did get a bit agitated anyway after reading about some personal experiences of others here in this thread and after 3 weeks I cut it down to 1 drop again for about 2 weeks, then up again because it didn't 'feel' right.
I write down every dose on my calender and usually go with my feeling about how much to take each day.

March- between 4-8 drops with occasional breaks for 2 days.
April 3-8 drops, but mostly 8 drops- occasional 2-day-breaks
May - mostly 8 drops- occasional breaks

I started to fell better pretty quickly concerning every single problem:
- not one new psoriaris patch since February- the old ones diappeared with external application of Lugol's 7,5% over the time of ~2weeks
- no candida
- herpes only once in the beginning (triggered by iodine?), since then nothing
- hayfever almost not existent
- pains from fibromyalgia almost non existent, sometimes none.
- msm down to 5 g/daily

Middle of June I had some appointments with a dentist and the guy triggered trouble- teeth, gum, maxillary and mandibular problems arised, inflammatory processes were triggered.
The dentist offered antibiotics but I decided to 'nuke' it with iodine.
I increased the dose in quick steps for June and July:
8°- 10°- 20°- 32° (200mg)- back to 21°- 32°- up to 48 drops (300mg).
So I took high doses for about 7 weeks without any herx reactions or other side effects although I'm having dark thoughts at times. I must take iodine into consideration here but mainly I blame it on the horrfifying state of this world.
I've cut down on it now since I don't feel as if the problem still exists and will take about 12 drops (75mg) for now.

I will do another iodine loading test soon.
I did one 5 weeks after starting the protocol- result was 49% excretion.
That is after morning urine, intake of 50 mg Lugol's and then collecting your urine for 24hours. They say when your iodine level is saturated you eliminate about 93% of the iodine via your urine. So 49% showed a very low iodine level.
I will keep you posted how the next loading test turns out.
I will also have some blood tests done with my doctor in October (if our overlords allow though) to check whether all other parameters are fine with my approach of self treatment. ;)

It is just sooo great to not being bothered anymore with all these symptoms that I've gotten used to live with.
Thanks to this forum because I suffered from 'iodine anxiety' before. :cool2:
And there is still room for improvement because all my life I've avoided to change my diet. I'm still having coffee with sugar, eat cake and bread when at work. So there is a lot still to accomplish...


My advice would be to stay on your track and listen to your body. I wouldn't increase the dose just because your doctor wants to make a biopsy.
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Tauriel said:
A short update:
Taking iodine for almost 2 years.
Everything got better: candida disappeared altogether; psoriasis disappeared; energy levels are good; herpes disappeared.

I've been taking higher doses (50-100mg) for several months when I thought it would be wise to decrease the intake because I had trouble sleeping.
But lo and behold, after a short time of taking just 1-2 drops of Lugol's 5% I now have a new batch of psoriasis. Since this was not the case with the higher dosing I'm now increasing the intake again to 50 mg or more.

After about 10 days of intake I pause for 2 days.

And for those who are just starting to take iodine, please increase the dose step by step and read this thread. It might be long, but as others have just pointed out, it's worth it and may safe you from some unpleasant effects.
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Hi Tauriel

It's been a while since you wrote those posts, but can I ask if your psoriasis is still in remission? I've been battling the same issue for quite some time. Since I still had some iodine from my first experiment with it years ago and I was already taking all the cofactors anyway, I decided to start taking it again a few days ago. Different situation from last time, hopefully different results as well.

Can I also ask you how you applied it externally to make the old patches of psoriasis disappear? You say it took a couple of weeks, but do you remember the amount and frequency?

Also, do you or anyone know if appling it on the scalp would be safe? I'm already suffering from the beginning of androgenetic alopecia (or so I was told by a dermatologist) with periods of increased hair loss and probably permanent thinning in certain areas.. I'd rather not risk burning them off completely. I would prefer keeping them as long as I can :lol:
 
"Edgar Cayce " referred to psoriasis as a "thinning of the intestinal layer " , iirc , so you might want to look at measures for dealing directly with it , the explanation being that thinning of the walls allows for greater permeability into bloodstream of unwanted irritants that result in skin issues , one possible cause being candida ( but also stress , bad diet ,....) , iodine will still help regardless afaik , ( I'm not a "trained" doctor , so fwiiw /blah ).
 
Ricardo said:
"Edgar Cayce " referred to psoriasis as a "thinning of the intestinal layer " , iirc , so you might want to look at measures for dealing directly with it , the explanation being that thinning of the walls allows for greater permeability into bloodstream of unwanted irritants that result in skin issues , one possible cause being candida ( but also stress , bad diet ,....) , iodine will still help regardless afaik , ( I'm not a "trained" doctor , so fwiiw /blah ).
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Yeah, I've read Edgar Cayce's readings on psoriasis. Honestly most information I've read over the years reinforces that idea, that "leaky gut" may be the main issue (at the very least for the most common type of psoriasis, other types may have different "main" causes). As you say, candida, diet, stress, etc.. Been trying to fix it for a long time through several different approaches. The results have been.. Definitely not zero, but not quite satisfactory enough for now. I'm hoping the addition of iodine on top of everything else will be enough to send it into remission, or as close as possible
 
Ricardo said:
Since spicy food promotes secretion of digestive fluids as a response , may want to try include them occasionally as well . ( again , not a doctor ) one thing i'll add since you're from Italy , no wheat products , ever , they're toxic crap. ( fwiw )
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Keenly aware in regards to wheat :lol: haven't touched any cereal other than rice for over 2 years (cross reactions between gluten and other molecules are a thing apparently) and not even rice since november because my body reacts badly even to that. Kept away from most spices for now (some are bad for psoriasis and I also have the occasional problem with histamine) but I have been using ox bile daily to normalize a usually lazy intestine (should contribute to keeping pathogens at bay).
 
I think I found the answer to my experience with lipids and iodine and why I had such a strong reaction with oleic acid and not linoleic acid. The answer is that even though the linoleic acid absorbs much more iodine and much faster than oleic acid, our body absorbs and deposits such halogenated oils much better when it is made with oleic than linoleic acid. And since saturated fatty acids are not very good at absorbing halogens, and our bodies do not absorb well halogenated PUFA, that leaves oleic acid as the best form of halogenated oil.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find such experiments with iodine, and these are done with chlorine, but I think that what was found about chlorine can also be said about iodine. And it would confirm my personal experience with iodine.


There is also a possibility of combining iodine with phospholipids, but since I had a bad experience with that combination, I will not make further comments about that at the present time.

When it comes to the question of what is the best form of iodine that we should take, I think that the answer to that depends on our motivation for taking iodine. If we want to take iodine to feed our thyroid then iodide form is probably the best, and I can recommend blue iodine for that. I feel zero inflammation in my thyroid when I take that form, unlike with Lugol's iodine.

But if we want to remove other bad halogens from our bodies, and we know that halogens love to hide in body lipids, then I think that iodine combined with lipid is the best form.

From one patent about combining iodine with lipids in the stomach:

Thrall and co-workers demonstrated that a large portion of orally administered molecular iodine is incorporated into lipids and therefore not available to enter the thyroid.

(...)

In another study, subchronic administration of iodide to male rats increased their thyroid weight at an iodide concentration of 10 mg/kg; however molecular iodine did not affect thyroid weight even at concentrations of 100 mg/kg. This data indicates that iodide can affect thyroid weight in mammals at concentrations that are 10-fold less than a comparable effect from molecular iodine. Thrall's data demonstrates that once orally administered molecular iodine reacts with organic biomolecules in the stomach the resulting iodinated species does not contribute to thyrotoxicity.

(...)

In the absence of arachidonic acid more molecular iodine is present in the reaction vials. The reduced concentration of molecular iodine indicates that the added arachidonic acid can be iodinated under acidic conditions such as those found in gastric fluid.

US20190105344A1 - Oral molecular iodine composition and method - Google Patents

Oral pharmaceutical compositions comprising iodide, iodate and. arachidonic acid in the presence of other pharmaceutical excipients and methods for preparing and using these compositions.
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I tried taking iodine with oleic acid and although I did have some detox symptoms which I haven't felt while taking the blue iodine, the symptoms were very mild compared to what I experienced the last time. I did some additional research and I think that I know why. The thing is that scientists do not use Lugol's solution for testing the iodine value of lipids. And the reason they don't use it is that the reaction is too slow. So instead of that, they are using iodine monochloride where the reaction is much faster. And you get iodine monochloride when you combine iodine with chlorine.

So perhaps the difference in my symptoms is that the last time I perhaps used tap water (I don't remember what kind of water I used) and this time I didn't? I will try it tomorrow with tap water which is chlorinated in my country.

 
Ricardo said:
Laura has posted about drinking only distilled waters ( with the appropriate mineral supplements ) , you might wanna try distilled to rule out unknowns ?
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I know that I wasn't using distilled water the last time when I had a strong reaction, so I don't think that distilled water is a factor. But I was using fresh oil, so perhaps this oil became oxidized and now it cannot absorb iodine. That is another thing that I will test soon.
 
I tried several combinations and although I did feel a little bit of inflammation in my lymph nodes, it was very mild, nothing like before. And that got me thinking. Since we want to push iodine into other glands apart from thyroid, and thyroid loves to take as much of iodine as possible, and that there is already a method for diverting iodine away from thyroid, such as the case with nuclear accidents where people take potassium iodide to block the uptake of radioactive iodine into the thyroid, and since I already have a form of iodide which is in my experience very mild to thyroid, which is blue iodine, I was wondering if taking the blue iodine prior to taking Lugol or tincture of iodine is the best way to saturate our body with iodine? That is what I'm going to try next.
 
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