Iodine and Potassium Iodide

JeanSchemit said:
I bought lugol's 2% iodine from Jcrow on Amazon
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I think it's safer to buy directly from J Crow instead of Amazon. There are counterfeits of many items on Amazon.

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hlat said:
I think it's safer to buy directly from J Crow instead of Amazon. There are counterfeits of many items on Amazon.
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Not necessarily: it depends on who the seller is. Buyers should beware and always verify who the seller is.
When the seller is the official distributor, there should be no problem.
In the case of Lugol, he has his official store selling through Amazon USA, so there should be no problem for US customers.

But on Amazon Canada, the item only says "Brand: J CROW'S"
To find the seller, you need to look right and scroll down until you see the gray box. It's said to be sold by Doppion, whoever that is, and to find the "Other sellers", you need to click on the little arrow. In this case, the other seller is Amazon.
For both of them, we can't trace the source of the product, so it could be tricky. However, I think that "sold by Amazon" might mean they supply themselves through the official distributor and not some random counterfeit.
I bought mine through Amazon Canada, seller Amazon, and my product seems fine.

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Unfortunately, I couldn't find any such study about iodine, but since fluoride is also a halogen, perhaps this finding can also be applied to iodine.


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Effects of exercise on fluoride metabolism: Saliva or blood as an indicative marker in sport medicine for monitoring fluoride metabolism

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They still don't know why exercise have such effect, but my guess is that perhaps it has something to do with the flow of the lymph, since we know that aerobic exercise stimulates lymph flow. So, better lymph flow - better absorption. And this could affect not just halogens, but also other things, such as omega 3.
 
While drinking lithium rich water, I noticed an effect that it had on me that I previously noticed only while I was taking iodine. I would feel some kind of energy in my palms and soles. I was wondering why would I feel this after drinking this water, since it doesn't have any iodine in it, and I am currently not taking any extra iodine. So I went searching, and I found out that there is a connection between lithium and iodine. Lithium does something to the thyroid to increase the retention of iodine in the thyroid. And this is something that doctors use when treating their patients with radioactive iodine.


I also found some more interesting explanations. One of them is that lithium can improve receptors for thyroid hormones, but another one, even more interesting, is that lithium can improve, in some tissues, the transformation of T4 into T3, the active version of thyroid hormone.

Treatment of Intractable Non-Rapid Cycling Bipolar Affective Disorder with High-Dose Thyroxine: An Open Clinical Trial - Neuropsychopharmacology

Six patients with very severe forms of non-rapid cycling bipolar affective illness whose symptoms had previously been refractory to all current antidepressant and/or prophylactic medications were treated with supraphysiological doses of thyroxine (250 to 500 µg/day) as an adjuvant to their...
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This could explain why I was feeling an effect of iodine, even though I was not taking extra iodine.
 
hlat said:
This could be big for hypothyroidism.
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That depends on what is the problem with the thyroid. If the thyroid has the problem of holding the iodine, then it could help. If the thyroid has the problem of making the T4, then lithium will probably not be much helpful. And with high amount of iodine and lithium it can actually suppress the thyroid hormone production, and that is why it was actually used for hyperthyroidism. But in small amounts, it doesn't do much for blood hormone levels, so the lab results would probably not show any change, but in the tissues it would increase the production of T3, so it would feel different. For that reason, I think that it could be helpful for people who have normal thyroid levels, but don't feel many benefits of taking iodine.
 
Persej said:
I don't know what is the minimum for that to happen. Any amount of iodine can temporarily suppress thyroid hormone production until iodine is organified. But they reported that 1500 mg/day of lithium and 30 drops of SSKI (I believe this is also 1500 mg/day of iodide) made a patient hypothyroid.

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I am not convinced that regular amounts of Lugol's 12.5 mg to 25 mg will induce hypothyroidism. These researchers saw nothing at 80 mg.
We did not observe abnormal thyroid function tests in 20 normal adults treated with 80 mg of Lugol’s solution for 2 months. Administration of a single dose of 50 to 70 mg of potassium iodide to children for prophylaxis after the Chernobyl reactor accident was not accompanied by an increment in the serum TSH concentration. We believe that iodine-induced hypothyroidism does occasionally occur in normal individuals but is exceedingly rare.
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Iodine-Induced Hypothyroidism
K. Markou, N. Georgopoulos, V. Kyriazopoulou, and A.G. Vagenakis
THYROID Volume 11, Number 5, 2001
 
hlat said:
I am not convinced that regular amounts of Lugol's 12.5 mg to 25 mg will induce hypothyroidism. These researchers saw nothing at 80 mg.
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That study was done in Greece, so perhaps people in Greece are already adapted to high amounts of iodine?

Here is another study that confirms the effect of lithium on thyroid hormones:

As far as we know, the present data show for the first time that chronic lithium treatment can increase the thyroxine to tri-iodothyronine conversion in the murine thyroid gland, be it directly or indirectly.

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Thyroid and pituitary thyroxine-5'-deiodinase activity and thyrotrophin secretion in lithium-treated rats

Some authors have reported increased serum thyrotrophin (TSH) in animals chronically treated with lithium, suggesting that lithium might decrease pituitary thyroxine (T(4))-5'-deiodinase activity. On the other hand, the effect of lithium treatment on thyroidal T(4)-5'-deiodinase activity is also...
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Session 21 November 2015 :

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Q: (L) Timótheos did the same thing and so did the rest of us. When we started getting symptoms, we just took it up to the doses that Brownstein talks about: 50 to 100 mg per day or more. Okay. One of the things that Brownstein says in the book is that many people's problems are not so much critters as it is heavy metals. The iodine removes cadmium, mercury, lead, all kinds of metals from the body. It even cleans them out of the endocrine systems, which they preferentially occupy – it even removes the fluoride out of the pineal gland which is where it likes to live. Is that true? Does it do that?

A: Yes yes yes

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(Chu) Is it possible to overdose?

A: Very difficult.
 
I finally found something that confirms some of my experience. When people are treated with Lipiodol, a form of iodine mixed with oil, most of the iodine does not go to the thyroid, but to liver and lungs. That would explain the inflammation in the lungs that I felt previously. I probably had a lot of iodine in my lungs.

Now, Lipiodol consist of mostly linoleic acid so they got a certain biodistribution, but with other types of lipids there could be different biodistributions. I mentioned my inflamed lymph nodes with oleic acid and iodine intake.

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131I thyroid uptake in patients treated with 131I-Lipiodol for hepatocellular carcinoma - PubMed

131I thyroid uptake in patients treated with 131I-Lipiodol for hepatocellular carcinoma
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I am going to start giving my kids the solid form of Lugol's called Prolamine Iodine Plus made by Standard Process. Its ingredients look good.
Organic beet (root), cellulose, organic kelp, prolamine iodine (zein), and water.
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I don't like the ingredients in Iodoral. Lugol's by J.Crow's is still the cheapest by a lot, though the kids don't like to drink it.

Description of Prolamine Iodine Plus
Prolamine iodine (zein) is the main source of iodine in this product. The iodine is prepared as a Lugol’s solution of 2:1, potassium iodide (KI) : iodine (I2). This aqueous solution creates a unique triiodide form (KI3) which forms stable bonds with both starch and protein in organic corn meal from the Standard Process farm.
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