Iodine and Potassium Iodide
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What an incredible resource. I got Brownstein's book and have ordered the supplements that I don't already have.
I'm hoping that completely cutting out bread and sugar will become easier once I start the protocol. I have read Grain Brain and Wheat Belly; perhaps another read will help set my resolve.
Thanks to everyone for their input and reporting. A special thanks to Gaby and Laura for their notes and summaries - you guys rock - you too Keyhole!
I'm hoping that completely cutting out bread and sugar will become easier once I start the protocol. I have read Grain Brain and Wheat Belly; perhaps another read will help set my resolve.
Thanks to everyone for their input and reporting. A special thanks to Gaby and Laura for their notes and summaries - you guys rock - you too Keyhole!
meadow_wind
Jedi Council Member
Hello all,
I've started reading this thread and taking notes.
I filled 24 pages of a Word Document which seems like a lot but, I'm only at page 5, post #72
I found the transcript related to this topic: cassiopaea.org/forum/threads/session-21-november-2015.40125/
I've also downloaded the book, but I have had no time to start reading it.
Last but not least, I found the SOTT article: Iodine - Suppressed knowledge that can change your life
Is it safe to assume that the SOTT article is a Quick Fix/Shortcut to help jumpstart the process so that I could start now with the protocol listed without worrying too much that I need to read 200 more pages of this thread + the book?
Thanks
I've started reading this thread and taking notes.
I filled 24 pages of a Word Document which seems like a lot but, I'm only at page 5, post #72
I found the transcript related to this topic: cassiopaea.org/forum/threads/session-21-november-2015.40125/
I've also downloaded the book, but I have had no time to start reading it.
Last but not least, I found the SOTT article: Iodine - Suppressed knowledge that can change your life
Is it safe to assume that the SOTT article is a Quick Fix/Shortcut to help jumpstart the process so that I could start now with the protocol listed without worrying too much that I need to read 200 more pages of this thread + the book?
Thanks
I think the article linked contains the vast majority of the protocol - so Yes - IF you pay strict attention to all the other supplements needed - especially salt water. One thing to know is that if you accidentally take more iodine than your body is capable of handling at the time; say you suddenly feel seriously brain fogged or too spacey, etc. Begin drinking some salted water and take Vitamin C - this should counteract the affects. Just go SLOWLY at first!!!
No. Safer to read the thread and start with heel.
meadow_wind
Jedi Council Member
I don't understand that expression and Google search produces no results.
Why would you say that the SOTT article is not safe since it recommends low dosages + the supplements needed to pair with + the schedule on when to take them?
At the bottom of the Sott Article, Gaby links to Lynn Farrows Heel dosing protocol: Iodine - The Heel Dosing Technique
Recently I had some bad experience with iodine. I spent this summer in my father's home in the area which is famous of a very moistly environment. And as such it has a lot of mold, and people there suffer because of bone problems. At the end of the summer, I decided to buy one water rich with iodine. And as soon as I did that, I developed arthritis. At first, I didn't understand what was going on and why, because this never happened to me. I heard people talking about it, but I didn't know how it felt. Well, now I know.
It took me some time to recover from it after I came back to my apartment, and after some time I tried again this iodine rich water which I was using in the previous years without any problems, and the arthritis came back. After I stopped iodine, it slowly disappeared until I ate some moldy bread and the arthritis came back again for two days.
So it seems that iodine can feed bad bugs inside of us if they are there, which is obviously a bad thing. But perhaps it can be utilized positively together with some antibiotics in an intermittent "wake them up with iodine from a spore stage and kill them with antibiotics" protocol. I've read before that some anti-bug protocols are designed in such way.
Maybe I could next time try the combination with some form of oleic acid that I reported before. Maybe that combination would be better against bugs.
It took me some time to recover from it after I came back to my apartment, and after some time I tried again this iodine rich water which I was using in the previous years without any problems, and the arthritis came back. After I stopped iodine, it slowly disappeared until I ate some moldy bread and the arthritis came back again for two days.
So it seems that iodine can feed bad bugs inside of us if they are there, which is obviously a bad thing. But perhaps it can be utilized positively together with some antibiotics in an intermittent "wake them up with iodine from a spore stage and kill them with antibiotics" protocol. I've read before that some anti-bug protocols are designed in such way.
Maybe I could next time try the combination with some form of oleic acid that I reported before. Maybe that combination would be better against bugs.
If I understand these papers correctly, oleic acid protects the thyroid from becoming oversaturated with iodine. That would explain my experience with that combination, because I was feeling things in my body that I previously felt only several weeks after taking Lugol without oleic acid.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
FATS IN RELATION TO THE GENESIS OF GOITRE - PMC
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
There is, as I pointed out many years ago, a fat-iodine disturbance of which is reflected in the thyroid gland. This is well illustrated in tadpoles. When their diet is too rich in butter they fail to grow normally; so do their thyroids. When their diet is too rich in the iodine they likewise fail to grow normally; so do their thyroids. But the addition to the diet of iodine in the one case and of butter in the other restores the fat-iodine balance, and growth both of the thyroid and of the body proceeds normally.
A Paper on FOOD AND GOITRE - PMC
Fluffy
Dagobah Resident
I posted in the mandatory vaccination protocol about my iodine experience of late because I was taking it as part of the protocol but will repost here.
Post in thread 'Health Protocol for Mandatory Coronavirus Vaccination'
Health Protocol for Mandatory Coronavirus Vaccination
Back story, I read and followed this iodine thread back when it was all happening and everyone was looking for the benefits of high dose iodine therapy. I followed closely because my thyroid had all but stopped functioning (doctor was amazed I could even stand up) and it’s a super interesting topic. I was all in, I wanted to heal my thyroid, chelate metals, kill bugs, kick other halides out of my iodine receptors because I had a nasty case of fluoride toxicity.
So I did that, I was using up to 300mg of (lugol) iodine, taking breaks, working back up to 300 again. This went on for months and months. I was a bit obsessed by it because it was working and working wonders, healed my thyroid, I had energy, I had stopped having symptoms of toxicity and was doing so much better than before I started. So then I backed off, only having a few drops a week, I felt like I didn’t need much anymore. About 5 years ago I stopped taking all supplements completely as I felt like I was overreacting to them (and everything) and wanted to see how I’d go with nothing but food as medicine. I only really reintroduced them when I became pregnant in 2023 and couldn’t eat properly for the whole pregnancy. I felt like crap anyway so it was hard to tell the difference if I was having issues with supps or pregnancy stuff.
So I’ll elaborate on my post above. I only really ever use iodine these days if I’m having some kind of issue. I was putting 2 drops on my wrist when I took other supps for covid detox protocol mainly because of interaction with vit c, magnesium and I recently accidentally discovered that NAC cancels out iodine as well when I put a few drops in a glass that I had not long drank nac crystals out of and the iodine disappeared.
I don’t know if I’ve recovered from what really appeared to be an allergic reaction to iodine because honestly I always feel pretty average or less and we are still on the very tail end of recovery from suspected covid virus 3 weeks ago (which is why I upped the iodine). Prolonged sleep issues with my 14 month old is really taking its toll on top of an already very sensitive body, life’s just been really hard. I keep mentioning it, everywhere to everyone… Those who know - know!!
I’m no longer itchy which is a plus and after about a week the rash disappeared.
I searched up iodine allergy although I really didn’t think there could be such a thing because of how essential it is for proper function of all cells. This is what I found to be interesting and excuse me if I misunderstand but what I’m reading is that if the body is already having issues with immune function then it could react to iodine like it does to a host of other things.
allerg.qc.ca
‘The mechanism of these reactions is most often due to a direct effect by the RCM molecule (and not by the iodine atoms) on mastocytes (cells implicated in the allergic response) leading to their degranulation (liberation of diverse substances including histamine, which causes an allergic reaction): often described as a pseudo-allergy. However in Europe, several recent studies have demonstrated a that a large number of patients having had such reactions have positive skin tests to the RCM in question, suggesting a real allergic mechanism mediated by the allergic antibodies known as IgE (or "IgE-mediated").’
And I’ll be honest, my diet hasn’t been splendid either. I really do try, but I’m certainly having issues with will and discipline, worse than ever. It’s crazy to me that I can justify eating things that make me feel bad just because they taste good, but on days where I’ve been up too many times at night and feel like I’m half dead nothing really matters, I’m literally just in survival mode and don’t care much about anything.
A reason, but not an excuse.
Post in thread 'Health Protocol for Mandatory Coronavirus Vaccination'
Health Protocol for Mandatory Coronavirus Vaccination
Back story, I read and followed this iodine thread back when it was all happening and everyone was looking for the benefits of high dose iodine therapy. I followed closely because my thyroid had all but stopped functioning (doctor was amazed I could even stand up) and it’s a super interesting topic. I was all in, I wanted to heal my thyroid, chelate metals, kill bugs, kick other halides out of my iodine receptors because I had a nasty case of fluoride toxicity.
So I did that, I was using up to 300mg of (lugol) iodine, taking breaks, working back up to 300 again. This went on for months and months. I was a bit obsessed by it because it was working and working wonders, healed my thyroid, I had energy, I had stopped having symptoms of toxicity and was doing so much better than before I started. So then I backed off, only having a few drops a week, I felt like I didn’t need much anymore. About 5 years ago I stopped taking all supplements completely as I felt like I was overreacting to them (and everything) and wanted to see how I’d go with nothing but food as medicine. I only really reintroduced them when I became pregnant in 2023 and couldn’t eat properly for the whole pregnancy. I felt like crap anyway so it was hard to tell the difference if I was having issues with supps or pregnancy stuff.
So I’ll elaborate on my post above. I only really ever use iodine these days if I’m having some kind of issue. I was putting 2 drops on my wrist when I took other supps for covid detox protocol mainly because of interaction with vit c, magnesium and I recently accidentally discovered that NAC cancels out iodine as well when I put a few drops in a glass that I had not long drank nac crystals out of and the iodine disappeared.
I don’t know if I’ve recovered from what really appeared to be an allergic reaction to iodine because honestly I always feel pretty average or less and we are still on the very tail end of recovery from suspected covid virus 3 weeks ago (which is why I upped the iodine). Prolonged sleep issues with my 14 month old is really taking its toll on top of an already very sensitive body, life’s just been really hard. I keep mentioning it, everywhere to everyone… Those who know - know!!
I’m no longer itchy which is a plus and after about a week the rash disappeared.
I searched up iodine allergy although I really didn’t think there could be such a thing because of how essential it is for proper function of all cells. This is what I found to be interesting and excuse me if I misunderstand but what I’m reading is that if the body is already having issues with immune function then it could react to iodine like it does to a host of other things.
What is an "iodine allergy"?
‘The mechanism of these reactions is most often due to a direct effect by the RCM molecule (and not by the iodine atoms) on mastocytes (cells implicated in the allergic response) leading to their degranulation (liberation of diverse substances including histamine, which causes an allergic reaction): often described as a pseudo-allergy. However in Europe, several recent studies have demonstrated a that a large number of patients having had such reactions have positive skin tests to the RCM in question, suggesting a real allergic mechanism mediated by the allergic antibodies known as IgE (or "IgE-mediated").’
And I’ll be honest, my diet hasn’t been splendid either. I really do try, but I’m certainly having issues with will and discipline, worse than ever. It’s crazy to me that I can justify eating things that make me feel bad just because they taste good, but on days where I’ve been up too many times at night and feel like I’m half dead nothing really matters, I’m literally just in survival mode and don’t care much about anything.
A reason, but not an excuse.
Yes, and some people on the forum were advocating megadosing for that reason, but we know now that megadosing can be very detrimental to thyroid, especially if you don't take all the supplements, mainly selenium. But even if you do, it can be too much for thyroid to process, because all this extra iodine first go to thyroid. But this oleic acid could be the answer to the question of how to get a big amount of iodine in your body without oversaturating the thyroid.
I've read the first 25 or so pages of this thread, a few pages around 150, some of Laura's posts as well a Dr. Brownsteins book but in the past two days I've learned that this is not enough and so I will be reading the entire thread. The events leading to this realization are frightening to say the least.
I've been taking one drop on 5% a day while following the protocol including salt loading, NAC and glycine. I've also added chromium.
In conjunction with this I take alpha lipoic acid, resveratrol, lion's mane with reishi, cordecept and pepperine, K2, omega 3, vitamin D3, multivitamin, multi minerals, zinc citrate and tongkat Ali.
I've been taking kelp providing 600 mcg of iodine for about a year so the switch to Lugol's while the dose is much higher, has been an easy transition. Things are going well and I intend to double up to two drops of Lugol's this coming week.
Now for the troublesome bit.
I bought Lugol's 15% because I've had a lesion on my jaw for two years now and I am booked to see a specialist but I decided to try Lugol's topically to see if it will repair the lesion before my appointment.
I mentioned this to my mom along with the fact that the iodine can cause moles to fall off. Well she has three bumps on her scalp that have potential to become cancerous and so she thought she should try the iodine on them.
I didn't see an immediate problem with this since my internal iodine regimen was fine for me. However, it did not cross my mind that my mom's heart has three electrodes instead of two. 14 years ago, her heart rate went up to 200bpm and they doctors had to stop her heart to reset the rhythm.
So we painted her scalp bumps with several drops of the iodine. No problem. Then yesterday we painted them with significantly less iodine - two drops. She picked up a new vehicle yesterday and while out driving with my grandmother had one of these heart episodes. The ambulance attendants fixed her heart rate but she went to the hospital anyway for some tests. Blood work shows no clotting (she broke her foot and was in a cast for two months; removed last week and the doctor thought maybe a clot had developed.)
It seems to me that this event is no coincidence. I had a terrible feeling that the iodine may have set her heart off. I'd like to ask @Gaby of you think the Iodine could have caused this episode. My mom will no longer be using the iodine transdermally. We shouldn't have went so hard so fast.
It may also be important to note that my transdermal application if causing noo side effects whatsoever. That may be due to the fact that I'm using the protocol and it didn't cross my mind that my mom should take the supplements while using transdermally.
I've been taking one drop on 5% a day while following the protocol including salt loading, NAC and glycine. I've also added chromium.
In conjunction with this I take alpha lipoic acid, resveratrol, lion's mane with reishi, cordecept and pepperine, K2, omega 3, vitamin D3, multivitamin, multi minerals, zinc citrate and tongkat Ali.
I've been taking kelp providing 600 mcg of iodine for about a year so the switch to Lugol's while the dose is much higher, has been an easy transition. Things are going well and I intend to double up to two drops of Lugol's this coming week.
Now for the troublesome bit.
I bought Lugol's 15% because I've had a lesion on my jaw for two years now and I am booked to see a specialist but I decided to try Lugol's topically to see if it will repair the lesion before my appointment.
I mentioned this to my mom along with the fact that the iodine can cause moles to fall off. Well she has three bumps on her scalp that have potential to become cancerous and so she thought she should try the iodine on them.
I didn't see an immediate problem with this since my internal iodine regimen was fine for me. However, it did not cross my mind that my mom's heart has three electrodes instead of two. 14 years ago, her heart rate went up to 200bpm and they doctors had to stop her heart to reset the rhythm.
So we painted her scalp bumps with several drops of the iodine. No problem. Then yesterday we painted them with significantly less iodine - two drops. She picked up a new vehicle yesterday and while out driving with my grandmother had one of these heart episodes. The ambulance attendants fixed her heart rate but she went to the hospital anyway for some tests. Blood work shows no clotting (she broke her foot and was in a cast for two months; removed last week and the doctor thought maybe a clot had developed.)
It seems to me that this event is no coincidence. I had a terrible feeling that the iodine may have set her heart off. I'd like to ask @Gaby of you think the Iodine could have caused this episode. My mom will no longer be using the iodine transdermally. We shouldn't have went so hard so fast.
It may also be important to note that my transdermal application if causing noo side effects whatsoever. That may be due to the fact that I'm using the protocol and it didn't cross my mind that my mom should take the supplements while using transdermally.
It's hard to tell if it is one of many factors or not, but yes, co-factors are important for better utilization of iodine itself.
Hope she's alright!
Thank you, she's okay now but the doctor took her driver's license. So I'm almost certain the Lugol's causes this episode and I can't let it go so I've been doing some reading on her condition and the thyroid. This is what I've come up with:
Thyrotoxicosis
Thyroid hormone helps make sure your body breaks down food and uses energy at the right speed. But what happens when you have too much of it? Find out what to watch for and what to do about it.
www.webmd.com
What Is Thyrotoxicosis?
Your thyroid gland (a small butterfly-shaped organ in the lower front of your neck) makes hormones that help your body use energy, stay warm, and keep your organs working the way they should. Thyrotoxicosis is when you have way too much of those hormones in your blood.This happens most often because your thyroid gland makes too much. That’s a condition called hyperthyroidis.
Now this web page explains the condition my mom has: Wolff Parkinson White Syndrome.
UpToDate
www.uptodate.com
And this taken from here https://journal.chestnet.org/article/S0012-3692(15)33630-8/abstract
Previous reports describe an association of Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome and thyrotoxicosis.1-3 Return to normal conduction has been reported with cure of thyrotoxicosis.1,2
Now I found a case of a woman with this condition where an episode was brought on from a thyroid storm when she developed a goiter. It was treated with Iodide.
Thyroid storm in a patient with Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome - PubMed
A 44-year-old woman with no medical history presented to the emergency department with a 2 h history of sudden onset chest pressure, palpitations, diaphoresis and shortness of breath. She reported a 90-pound unintentional weight loss, increased appetite, irritability, night sweats and...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
My theory is that my mom got too much Lugol's which kicked up the thyroid hormones in her blood stream which caused the WPWS event. This is supported knowing that transdermal iodine can eliminate sore throats 24 hours after application. The attack came on the day after application. however in my mom's case, too much produced negative results.
Now the paramedics were able to lower her heart rate by laying her down and putting her legs in a certain position. That's the gist of the procedure, I'd have to ask her about the specific details. This might indicate that the event was not Lugol's related but I am not sure how to research to find the answer.
She's not applying the Lugol's anymore and I hope that I will be able to discuss this with her specialist when she does get an appointment. In conjunction with this I think it would be a good idea for my mom to have her thyroid checked to see if there are any concerns.
Thank you for the reply Gaby, I appreciate it very much.
